Language Does Matter!

MrsCon40

One of my beloveds wrote something that I think many people here should read.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Contrarian/view/language-does-matter-215613

Enjoy! And remember that language does matter!

anubis609

I'd like to add that even those whose second [or third or fourth] language is English, tend to speak it more properly than those born here.

JDMPWR

Thank you for that post. Must PM Contrarian.

UponThisRock

I'd like to add that even those whose second [or third or fourth] language is English, tend to speak it more properly than those born here.

pastryari

I'd like to add that even those whose second [or third or fourth] language is English, tend to speak it more properly than those born here.

LOL. That's a joke.

onedayillbamilf

:flowerforyou:

infamousmk

BUMP!

FitLink

Ugh! Hear, hear!

(Note I did not say "here here!")

(Or "Walla!")

(Or "Prolly.")

Lizzy_Sunflower

:drinker:

determinedbutlazy

I'm an ESL teacher, and it SHOCKS me that native speakers mistake you're/your and their/there/they're.

honeysprinkles

Some people just suck at grammar and spelling. Some people don't. I don't see the big deal and I'm tired of people always complaining about it! There are better things to spend your time worrying about.

honeysprinkles

I'm an ESL teacher, and it SHOCKS me that native speakers mistake you're/your and their/there/they're.

That shocks you? They're three words that sound the same, it doesn't surprise me that some people get it confused. I know the difference but that doesn't mean that you won't ever catch me accidentally typing there when I mean their.

Proper grammar comes naturally to some of us, so it's easy to not realize that it really can be a struggle for some people. It doesn't mean that they don't care or that they're stupid and it certainly isn't a reason to start feeling better about yourself.

Why not worry about real problems and not petty things like how someone spells or types...this isn't a classroom.

Contrarian

The demise of proper language skills IS a real problem.

Qarol

Ugh! Hear, hear!

(Note I did not say "here here!")

(Or "Walla!")

(Or "Prolly.")

or "per say"

My brain thanks you...

_SusieQ_

My personal opinion is that those born to the "texting generation" are losing their ability to write/read/speak properly. Shorthand may work for texting and even personal email, but at some point these boys and girls will be expected to join the working class. May as well practice proper written skills now rather than trying to figure out why they couldn't even get an interview because of a poorly written resume/application/cover letter.

Like, fer realz!

infamousmk

The demise of proper language skills IS a real problem.

Agreed. The less skilled we are at proper language, the less skilled at communication we become. Eventually we'll be sending picture-messages to convey our thoughts because our children never bothered to learn how to spell the actual words.

kennethmgreen

I'd like to add that even those whose second [or third or fourth] language is English, tend to speak it more properly than those born here.

LOL. That's a joke.

I don't think that was a joke at all. Many people who learn English as a second or third or fourth language don't take it for granted and actually care about getting it right. They wouldn't argue that it's not important.

yummy♥

Proper grammar comes naturally to some of us

This simply isn't true. While people may have different capacities for learning, no one was born knowing how to spell or use proper grammar. Words are wonderful tools, and I always appreciate those who make the effort to use them correctly and effectively.

carrie_eggo

Wonderful blog post! Thanks for sharing!

MUByM

Some people just suck at grammar and spelling. Some people don't. I don't see the big deal and I'm tired of people always complaining about it! There are better things to spend your time worrying about.

This.

nerdyandilikeit

Why not worry about real problems and not petty things like how someone spells or types...this isn't a classroom.

Weird. I thought the whole point of school was to prepare me for real life.

If you don't know your language, you can't communicate effectively. At the very least, I'll judge you a little.

JDMPWR

I'm an ESL teacher, and it SHOCKS me that native speakers mistake you're/your and their/there/they're.

That shocks you? They're three words that sound the same, it doesn't surprise me that some people get it confused. I know the difference but that doesn't mean that you won't ever catch me accidentally typing there when I mean their.

Proper grammar comes naturally to some of us, so it's easy to not realize that it really can be a struggle for some people. It doesn't mean that they don't care or that they're stupid and it certainly isn't a reason to start feeling better about yourself.

Why not worry about real problems and not petty things like how someone spells or types...this isn't a classroom.

I'm sorry. We just don't agree on this. When I speak to someone that is well spoken and intelligent it makes me think much more fondly of them than I would otherwise.

I wish so badly that my vernacular was so much better then it is and my grammar was as good as my fathers but sadly it isn't,

Yanicka1

Your brain makes me happy

IronmanPanda

Proper grammar comes naturally to some of us

This simply isn't true. While people may have different capacities for learning, no one was born knowing how to spell or use proper grammar. Words are wonderful tools, and I always appreciate those who make the effort to use them correctly and effectively.

These are elementary grammar issues. Basic english taught in the US grades K-6. There is little to no excuse for these mistakes to continue into adulthood.

pastryari

I'd like to add that even those whose second [or third or fourth] language is English, tend to speak it more properly than those born here.

LOL. That's a joke.

I don't think that was a joke at all. Many people who learn English as a second or third or fourth language don't take it for granted and actually care about getting it right. They wouldn't argue that it's not important.

That's the beauty, it's YOUR opinion. I happen to think that was a joke because I have not found it to not be true at all. I'm glad that since English is my first language it means that I take it for granted and don't care about getting it right. Seriously, talk about a generalization.

Farfourah

Language evolves, deal with it.

MrsCon40

Some people just suck at grammar and spelling. Some people don't. I don't see the big deal and I'm tired of people always complaining about it! There are better things to spend your time worrying about.

Well if they suck then there is just no point in trying to improve.

*head desk*

BondBomb

Proper grammar comes naturally to some of us

This simply isn't true. While people may have different capacities for learning, no one was born knowing how to spell or use proper grammar. Words are wonderful tools, and I always appreciate those who make the effort to use them correctly and effectively.

These are elementary grammar issues. Basic english taught in the US grades K-6. There is little to no excuse for these mistakes to continue into adulthood.

I agree. I find it difficult to take someone seriously when I have to translate poor grammar and spelling. These are basic skills.

nerdyandilikeit

I happen to think that was a joke because I have not found it to not be true at all.

So, you DO think it's true. Double negative. Woops.

MrsCon40

My personal opinion is that those born to the "texting generation" are losing their ability to write/read/speak properly. Shorthand may work for texting and even personal email, but at some point these boys and girls will be expected to join the working class. May as well practice proper written skills now rather than trying to figure out why they couldn't even get an interview because of a poorly written resume/application/cover letter.

Like, fer realz!

My 12 year old daughter texts in complete, gramatically correct sentences. She makes fun of her friends that don't.

There IS hope for the future, although you probably will not find it in this thread.

RocketsGirl

Your brain makes me happy

^^ this! Contrarian's brain is a wonder. :bigsmile: