Supplements---What do you take?
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GNC is way too expensive. Pay $60 for the same thing you can buy in a drug store for 6.00. The only difference is it has the GNC logoGNC Women's Ultra Mega Multi Vitamins
NOW 4000 Vitamin D on top of the 1600 I get from the multi vitamins (I'll knock that down in the summer)
Occasionally I will take Probiotics (perscription strength)
I need to add more Calcium to this mix. I'll be hitting GNC sometime this week for that.0 -
Biotin, but that's for my nails. They're extremely brittle without it and I don't need to be worried about my nails denting, splitting, or coming off in layers when I work out. I used to take a multivitamin but all of the tablets are so big that when I would take them, I ended up throwing them right back up. The gummis gave me stomach problems so I just say to hell with it.0
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Whey Protein (Optimum Nutrition + Muscle Pharm)
Casein Protein (Optimum Nutrition)
Animal Pak (Multivitamin)
BCAA - Branched Chain Amino Acids (Muscle Pharm)
Creatine (Con-Cret)
Glutamine
Fish Oil
NO Booster
I do 2 to 3 weeks of rest from all supplements (cut the supps) every 1 or 2 months.0 -
This study looked at breast cancer. But did taking vitamins decrease their risk for other types of cancer? Or help protect them from other serious illnesses or disease? What was the overall death rate in the study?There is a reason the FDA does not put their stam of approval on vitamins. I believe most vitamins are processed junk and you can read a number of articles about it, here is one http://www.webmd.com/breast-cancer/news/20100401/multivitamins-linked-to-breast-cancer-risk0 -
Have you studied this? Because all vitamins are NOT created equal by any means. Buying a good brand is very important. I researched before I chose. I didn't choose the best for financial reasons but GNC is a good one. Most drug store brands were worthless.
GNC is way too expensive. Pay $60 for the same thing you can buy in a drug store for 6.00. The only difference is it has the GNC logoGNC Women's Ultra Mega Multi Vitamins
NOW 4000 Vitamin D on top of the 1600 I get from the multi vitamins (I'll knock that down in the summer)
Occasionally I will take Probiotics (perscription strength)
I need to add more Calcium to this mix. I'll be hitting GNC sometime this week for that.0 -
and some people can get all their vitamins from food and the sun. The only way to tell is by taking a blood test which is what I said in my first post. If you eat no veggies or fruits then that is on you and believe me you will suffer the consequences. Your body won't absord a pill the way it will absorb the real vitamins directly from the source and that is the fact.
why bother? some people are convinced they need pills and medical intervention to be healthy. let the pill poppers take their synthetic junk. its sad to see so much money wasted on unnecessary stuff that could be spent on nutritious delcious foods but whatever its their money to waste. i wonder if they ever heard of the placebo effect? our species has been around for a looooooong time without supplements. but for some reason we couldnt possibly get everything we need to thrive from a natural source. we NEED synthetic pills to be healthy. gosh whats wrong with you for trying to say otherwise?0 -
Our species has been around for a long time. True.
why bother? some people are convinced they need pills and medical intervention to be healthy. let the pill poppers take their synthetic junk. its sad to see so much money wasted on unnecessary stuff that could be spent on nutritious delcious foods but whatever its their money to waste. i wonder if they ever heard of the placebo effect? our species has been around for a looooooong time without supplements. but for some reason we couldnt possibly get everything we need to thrive from a natural source. we NEED synthetic pills to be healthy. gosh whats wrong with you for trying to say otherwise?
But...
1900 - Average life span for white females was 40.5 years
2004 - Average life span for white females was 80.8 years
Clean food is not a cure all.0 -
It is sad that people actually believe that they cannot get what they need through food! But notice most of the people that are popping the pills are the people that refuse to eat healthy foods. Synthetic vitamins cannot replace the real thing. They can help however if you cannot absorb for medical reasons. I am originally from California but live in an area now with very little sun. I could have jumped on the "I am tired because I am low on vitamin D" bandwagon, but instead I wanted to find out what I am really missing instead of guessing. So, I was actually fine on vitamin D. Paying for a blood test can save you a lot of money in vitamin costs and buying vitamins when you don't need them is just plain stupid.0
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Our species has been around for a long time. True.
why bother? some people are convinced they need pills and medical intervention to be healthy. let the pill poppers take their synthetic junk. its sad to see so much money wasted on unnecessary stuff that could be spent on nutritious delcious foods but whatever its their money to waste. i wonder if they ever heard of the placebo effect? our species has been around for a looooooong time without supplements. but for some reason we couldnt possibly get everything we need to thrive from a natural source. we NEED synthetic pills to be healthy. gosh whats wrong with you for trying to say otherwise?
But...
1900 - Average life span for white females was 40.5 years
2004 - Average life span for white females was 80.8 years
Clean food is not a cure all.
i know its not worth discussing with you because you have your mind made up but look at what point they started not counting infant mortality rates in those studies. anyways, i never said its a cure all. i just said supplements are unecessary because all the nutrition you need is available in food. not cures or whatever you are insinuating. but again, its your money to waste.0 -
People who click on threads just to post their healthier-than-thou opposition to the subject absolutely slay me.:noway:0
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agree, except that it's hard for Northeners to get enough Vitamin D, so I take it.0
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I eat a varied diet and get plenty of vegetables and some fruits, watch my macros but still supplement with the following
Rainbow Light Womens/Prenatals Multi (i switch back and forth)
Biotin (just started this because of the weight loss I have lost a ton of hair)
Magnesium
Omega-3 Fish Oil (because I will NOT eat seafood of any kind)
Vitamin C
occasionally Acidophilus
and whey protein on days I weight train0 -
Nothing. I'd rather spend the money on food. Eat right and you don't need vitamins or supplements. Why buy omega-3 oil when you can have salmon instead?0
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medicine has gotten better over the years, nothing to do with supplements. I do not believe clean food is the cure all but again the people fighting against clean food are the ones that refuse to change their lifestyles in order to never be overweight again. Fine by me but when you ask for advice, and you get defensive over the answer than that just says to me that there is something that is striking a nerve within you (maybe a little splash of truth?!!) that maybe you should look at. I am a stranger offering an very reasonable opinion, if you get upset about an opinion then maybe you should look a little deeper as to why you are getting upset. Maybe you know fruits and veggies are good for you but do not want to take the step to give your body what it needs? Maybe you don't have insurance and a blood test is expensive, maybe you do not want to change the way you eat and want to believe that the synthetic vitamins are just as good for you but deep down you know they are not, maybe you are just stubborn and know this is the right advice but you do not want to admit it to yourself. I don't know. All I know is that changing what food I crave has changed my life in a very positive way. I also no longer gain weight and aside from the 2 vitamins I cannot absorb naturally, my blood pressure, cholesterol and everything else having to do with my health is perfect. That is what eating clean will do for you, it takes out most processed things and leaves you feeling fantastic. If you are getting defensive over people telling you to eat better food please look inside and ask yourself what is it that is making you so defensive.0
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I take a multivitamin, flax seed oil, B50 complex, and iron… though I often forget to take them.0
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Our species has been around for a long time. True.
why bother? some people are convinced they need pills and medical intervention to be healthy. let the pill poppers take their synthetic junk. its sad to see so much money wasted on unnecessary stuff that could be spent on nutritious delcious foods but whatever its their money to waste. i wonder if they ever heard of the placebo effect? our species has been around for a looooooong time without supplements. but for some reason we couldnt possibly get everything we need to thrive from a natural source. we NEED synthetic pills to be healthy. gosh whats wrong with you for trying to say otherwise?
But...
1900 - Average life span for white females was 40.5 years
2004 - Average life span for white females was 80.8 years
Clean food is not a cure all.
i know its not worth discussing with you because you have your mind made up but look at what point they started not counting infant mortality rates in those studies. anyways, i never said its a cure all. i just said supplements are unecessary because all the nutrition you need is available in food. not cures or whatever you are insinuating. but again, its your money to waste.
Are you a nutritionist with a degree or PHD? I doubt that.
Your logic ideally is right. Nature provides everything a human being needs, HOWEVER
we live in a industrial and isolated world with big cities and people inhabiting it. We don't go for hunt anymore so we can provide for fresh meat. WE BUY IT without even having the trouble to cut the cattle's throat and see the blood flowing like our ancestors very casually did. We don't have the trouble of concerning about the weather of destroying our crops, which we worked so hard through the whole year to care for. WE BUY IT. We don't live in tribes with few people in it and have not the trouble to raise sheeps, cows, ducks, chicken, pigs etc.. we don't have the trouble to migrate in order to find sources of good healthy grass for them. I can give you many examples, but my point is that, that is how we as human suppose to live and feed ourselves. We weren't supposed to stay on couch everyday watching TV. We were not supposed to watch TV at all, but you do. We weren't supposed to work all day in an office and have a sedentary life while we enjoy a fruit smoothie, but we do, or better saying we are forced to live this life. You see? The difference of Idealistic to Actual life is far way.. so is the truth about nutrition. Everything we put in our mouth isnot self made, but taken and imported. Even the healthy food that you think might do the trick, is not as healthy as you think. We live in a world of pesticides and acids. We live in a world that bio-modified foods are increasing. So how can you tell us for sure that this food is actually healthy? We live in a world where even natural resources are loosing their efectivness because of industrial revolution, so it is naturally that to fill this void we need supplements which are basic natural components extracted in an artificial way. If I were to live in Himalayas with native people who live in a virgin self cultivated place, I'd take your idealistic advice.
Don't get me wrong. I don't preach mass Supplement usage. What I suggest is for people to know what they take and be smart about their nutritional needs. Not only supps, but everything that goes beyond acceptable is bad for health.0 -
I'm not at all defensive over people eating good food. I'm 100% for it. But I don't like the attitude against people who also choose to take supplements. The holier than thou attitude of some "clean eating" people is getting a little old.
I'm glad for the people who eat clean. I'm happy to hear their arguments about why others should do the same But don't look down your nose at those who make supplements a part of their health plan.
So please, share your experiences. But get off your high horse and stop being so judgemental.0 -
Gold Standard Strawberry Whey Protein with skim milk - 1.5 scoops after lifting, 1 scoop on non-lifting days
One A Day Vitamin - Men's Health Formula, 1 tablet
Member's Mark Vitamin C Natural With Rose Hips - 500mg
Nature's Way - Glucomannan
Member's Mark - Double Strength All Natural Enteric Omega 3 Fish Oil 1200 Mg, 2 Softgel
Nature Made - Super B-Complex With Vitamin C & Folic Acid , 1 Tablet
Gnc - Vitamin D-3 2000iu, 1 Tablet
Now Nutrition - L-Carnitine 500mg Caplets, 2 Vca
Usp Labs - Oxyelite Pro Elite
Vitamin World - Potassium Citrate - 5 capsules
Now Foods - Zma, 3 Caps
I'm also about to add in creatine
Despite the amt. of supplements I'm currently taking, I'm a strong believer that nutrition and exercise are the basics for a healthy lifestyle.0 -
fish oil and a prenatal vitamin0
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I don't practice what I preach as much as I should but in study after study, our attempts to decrease cancer incidence with specific vitamin supplements has backfired. The most notorious was the attemp to reduce risk of lung cancer with beta carotene supplements and 2 large trials demonstrated an increase in risk. The latest darlings, vitamin E and selenium, also did not reduce the risk of prostate cancer in the large PREVENT trial and in general there was an overall trend to adverse health effects from those supplements compared to placebo, not just in terms of cancer risk, but also overall health risks including diabetes. A study from the UK looking at outcomes of cancer patients who take supplements compared to matched controls of those who didn't demonstrated worse survival in the supplement users.
My bias is that our ability to replicate the micronutrient balance present in fruits and vegetables in a manufactured pill is foolish. As in all things, just because a micronutrient is good for you, taking more isn't beneficial.
The data suggesting that rampant vitamin D deficiency is a health hazard is growing and I think most people should be on a supplement given the difficulty getting it in food and our decreasing sun exposure. In my clinic, we check vitamin D levels in everyone and replace accordingly. The data demonstrating the anti-inflammatory benefits of omega-3's supports supplementing with that if you can't get it in your diet (which is tough). I am increasingly impressed by the growing data with probiotics and often suggest them for my patients. Other supplements like co-Q 10, resveretrol, curcumin, etc is interesting but I think unproven. They may make the list eventually. And iron replacement in a menstruating woman, particularly if vegetarian, is very appropriate. Yes it can be done with food but it can be tough, especially for a woman with heavy menses.0 -
Once again, I am taking a reasonable approach I think. Get the most from your food and get tested for what you cannot get and take appropriate actions for it whether it be eating more foods with the vitamins you are lacking or in the worst case scenario take supplements IF you need them. Your health is your responsibility after all but taking supplements that you don't know you need is just plain silly. If you think that is judgemental than so be it. I think I am being really reasonable. Taking every supplement under the sun because you might possibly need it is not doing anything but making the vitamin companies rich. But of course they need to make their money from someone so go for it.0
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Soluble fiber
men's multi
probiotic
flax meal
Whey, Whey isolate, casein.0 -
I use a few of ViSalus' products the vitamins and also the vi- shape nutritional shake mix to name a couple.0
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Dbl dose b complex, one a day, fish oil, biotin0
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There is a reason the FDA does not put their stam of approval on vitamins. I believe most vitamins are processed junk and you can read a number of articles about it, here is one http://www.webmd.com/breast-cancer/news/20100401/multivitamins-linked-to-breast-cancer-risk
You're kidding, right? The FDA is the biggest scam out there! Studies have proven that aspirin reduces your cancer risk but the FDA will not allow the makers of aspirin to make that claim any more and if they do then aspirin will be regulated and you will need a prescription to get it! They want to regulate ALL vitamins and force you to get them by prescription only. They claim that vitamins are harmful because they give them to their lab rats in doses that no one would ever be able to process.
They're a money hungry government funded operation that needs to be shut down period!0 -
Once again, I am taking a reasonable approach I think. Get the most from your food and get tested for what you cannot get and take appropriate actions for it whether it be eating more foods with the vitamins you are lacking or in the worst case scenario take supplements IF you need them. Your health is your responsibility after all but taking supplements that you don't know you need is just plain silly. If you think that is judgemental than so be it. I think I am being really reasonable. Taking every supplement under the sun because you might possibly need it is not doing anything but making the vitamin companies rich. But of course they need to make their money from someone so go for it.
dont you know its unreasonable to post your opinion on a subject in a PUBLIC forum if it differs from what they want to hear? how dare you offer reasonable advice that doesnt match up with what they already believe. how judgemental of you. come off your high horse of trying to offer a new or different perspective on something. geez whats wrong with you.0 -
There is a reason the FDA does not put their stam of approval on vitamins. I believe most vitamins are processed junk and you can read a number of articles about it, here is one http://www.webmd.com/breast-cancer/news/20100401/multivitamins-linked-to-breast-cancer-risk
You're kidding, right? The FDA is the biggest scam out there! Studies have proven that aspirin reduces your cancer risk but the FDA will not allow the makers of aspirin to make that claim any more and if they do then aspirin will be regulated and you will need a prescription to get it! They want to regulate ALL vitamins and force you to get them by prescription only. They claim that vitamins are harmful because they give them to their lab rats in doses that no one would ever be able to process.
They're a money hungry government funded operation that needs to be shut down period!
Agreed, the FDA is bought and sold to the highest bidder just like any other government entity.0 -
Posting your opinion is fine. But calling other people silly, assuming the haven't done their research or weren't tested is arrogant and judgemental.dont you know its unreasonable to post your opinion on a subject in a PUBLIC forum if it differs from what they want to hear? how dare you offer reasonable advice that doesnt match up with what they already believe. how judgemental of you. come off your high horse of trying to offer a new or different perspective on something. geez whats wrong with you.
Share your thoughts, your beliefs your research. Don't tell people what to do and imply they are stupid if they don't do things your way.0 -
Have you studied this? Because all vitamins are NOT created equal by any means. Buying a good brand is very important. I researched before I chose. I didn't choose the best for financial reasons but GNC is a good one. Most drug store brands were worthless.
There's something I always look for on multi-vitamins to see if they pass my tests.
- The Vitamin B12 should be methylcobalamin, not cyanocobalamin
- The Vitamin B6 should be P5P (or a mix of P5P and something else), not pyridoxine hydrochloride
- The Magnesium should be citrate, not oxide
- The Calcium should be citrate
Guess what? Your multi failed all of them thus making it a low-quality multi-vitamin. There's other stuff to look for but yours failed those, so we can assume the other ingredients are most likely lacklustre.0 -
Once again, I am taking a reasonable approach I think. Get the most from your food and get tested for what you cannot get and take appropriate actions for it whether it be eating more foods with the vitamins you are lacking or in the worst case scenario take supplements IF you need them. Your health is your responsibility after all but taking supplements that you don't know you need is just plain silly. If you think that is judgemental than so be it. I think I am being really reasonable. Taking every supplement under the sun because you might possibly need it is not doing anything but making the vitamin companies rich. But of course they need to make their money from someone so go for it.
dont you know its unreasonable to post your opinion on a subject in a PUBLIC forum if it differs from what they want to hear? how dare you offer reasonable advice that doesnt match up with what they already believe. how judgemental of you. come off your high horse of trying to offer a new or different perspective on something. geez whats wrong with you.
I am outa here. People will believe what they want to believe and will read what they want to read and they will defend their bad eating habits to the death instead of changing them. Most people in this world are sheep and this confirms it for me. Instead of taking a reasonable approach to their health, they take a million supplements that they do not need, for what? Haha it is pretty silly if you think about it but in the end we are each responsible for our own health. I take mine seriously, because quality of life is just and important as quantitiy. I am not holier than thou nor judgemental. I just like to know what I am lacking before spending unnecessary money on a bunch of synthetic vitamins. But that is just me and I will not cry over other people choosing something different. When I offer advice it comes from a good place, if others cannot hear it then it says more about them than me.0
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