Supplements---What do you take?
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and for the record I guarentee you that most people taking vitamins here have not done their research. If you get offended by the word silly, then you are silly.0
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And you can recommend a $6 drug store brand that passes your test? Please share the info.Have you studied this? Because all vitamins are NOT created equal by any means. Buying a good brand is very important. I researched before I chose. I didn't choose the best for financial reasons but GNC is a good one. Most drug store brands were worthless.
There's something I always look for on multi-vitamins to see if they pass my tests.
- The Vitamin B12 should be methylcobalamin, not cyanocobalamin
- The Vitamin B6 should be P5P (or a mix of P5P and something else), not pyridoxine hydrochloride
- The Magnesium should be citrate, not oxide
- The Calcium should be citrate
Guess what? Your multi failed all of them thus making it a low-quality multi-vitamin. There's other stuff to look for but yours failed those, so we can assume the other ingredients are most likely lacklustre.0 -
Vitamin D(I am actually low in this as evidenced by lack of energy and blood tests)
Rainbow light pre natal
Amazing grass superfoods(just started)
I also add ground flax to my food but thats not really a supplement since its a food.
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Wellman (1-a-day multivitamin/minerals) and an extra Vitamin D supplement (5000 IU). Don't get enough sun here. USN 100% Whey Protein any day I'm going to be otherwise short of 180g of protein.0
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I take vitamin T. It helps me tolerate arrogance from know-it-alls who talk down to people who take supplements0
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medicine has gotten better over the years, nothing to do with supplements. I do not believe clean food is the cure all but again the people fighting against clean food are the ones that refuse to change their lifestyles in order to never be overweight again. Fine by me but when you ask for advice, and you get defensive over the answer than that just says to me that there is something that is striking a nerve within you (maybe a little splash of truth?!!) that maybe you should look at. I am a stranger offering an very reasonable opinion, if you get upset about an opinion then maybe you should look a little deeper as to why you are getting upset. Maybe you know fruits and veggies are good for you but do not want to take the step to give your body what it needs? Maybe you don't have insurance and a blood test is expensive, maybe you do not want to change the way you eat and want to believe that the synthetic vitamins are just as good for you but deep down you know they are not, maybe you are just stubborn and know this is the right advice but you do not want to admit it to yourself. I don't know. All I know is that changing what food I crave has changed my life in a very positive way. I also no longer gain weight and aside from the 2 vitamins I cannot absorb naturally, my blood pressure, cholesterol and everything else having to do with my health is perfect. That is what eating clean will do for you, it takes out most processed things and leaves you feeling fantastic. If you are getting defensive over people telling you to eat better food please look inside and ask yourself what is it that is making you so defensive.
Pretty sure this thread was created to ask people what supplements people are eating and not hear you preach about how people can every thing they need from healthy eating. I eat very clean but for what I am going for it is easier to supplement more protein with a shake then eat a big steak. Get off your soap box already.0 -
and for the record I guarentee you that most people taking vitamins here have not done their research. If you get offended by the word silly, then you are silly.
This "silly" discussion has gone on long enough. Back to discussing supplements....0 -
and for the record I guarentee you that most people taking vitamins here have not done their research. If you get offended by the word silly, then you are silly.
Ain't nuttin' wrong wid takin' a multi.
I've done my research and I take one and many other smart, scientifically-driven individuals such as Alan Aragon, Lyle McDonald, Anthony Colpo, and Ian McCarthy take multi-vitamins.
I have seen some research that bags on multi-vitamins but the problem comes from people mega-dosing nutrients. A low-dose multi-vitamin is usually good enough whereas some athletic brands quadruple the RDA intake.And you can recommend a $6 drug store brand that passes your test? Please share the info.
No, those are equally as awful but there are good, affordable multis out there. Source Naturals Life Force is one that's worth investing in. No one needs to go crazy and get mega-dosed vitamins and minerals such as Animal Pak (which is overrated and a waste of money). I also believe NOW makes a women's version of what I take, which I presume is called NOW Eve.0 -
GNC Mega Mens - Energy & Metabolism
Oxy Elite Pro - Super Thermogenic0 -
One A Day - Energy Blend multivit
Cinnamon Capsules - 2 a day (for blood sugar)
Kelp tablets - 1 a week
Ab Cuts midsection blend (Sunflower, Fish, Borage, Flax, Sesame Seed oil, Vit E 807mg per) 3 x a day
Just remember what your body doesn't need, it gets rid of. No sense in doubling up on vitamins unless you have money to burn. As you get the nutritional aspects through everyday foods.0 -
Some info that some might find interesting.
http://drlauraruby.com/essential-nutrition/getting-the-dirt-on-mineral-deficiencies/
I did do my own search on vitamins for my family to take and to help my son which is now off the prescription meds for ADHD because of supplements.
I am not posting for people to agree or argue just sharing info. :-)0 -
I take a whey protien, multivitamin, cla, bcaa, efa's, at the moment 0
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I take a basic multivitamin and a B-complex when I'm at work - I find it very hard to eat healthily at work...0
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8AM-acidophilus
12PM-omega 3 flaxseed oil
4PM-either potassium or iron -alternating daily
8PM-multivitamin
Whey protein powder as needed.
It seems like no matter what I eat, I never get enough potassium.
I have been meat/milk/egg free for about 3 months now. My iron intake it usually always low.0 -
Are you guys looking at the concentration percentages of fat soluble and water soluble nutrients? If you are taking with food, water soluble nutrients should be higher in concentration than fat soluble and vise versa if taking only with water no matter where the nutrient is derived. This speaks to your personal preference on when you are ingesting. You can only absorb so much under given circumstances without having it flushed.0
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Thanks for the info. I use NOW for Vitamin D and I know its a good brand. I'll take a look at Eve and also Source Naturals.
No, those are equally as awful but there are good, affordable multis out there. Source Naturals Life Force is one that's worth investing in. No one needs to go crazy and get mega-dosed vitamins and minerals such as Animal Pak (which is overrated and a waste of money). I also believe NOW makes a women's version of what I take, which I presume is called NOW Eve.0 -
Posting your opinion is fine. But calling other people silly, assuming the haven't done their research or weren't tested is arrogant and judgemental.dont you know its unreasonable to post your opinion on a subject in a PUBLIC forum if it differs from what they want to hear? how dare you offer reasonable advice that doesnt match up with what they already believe. how judgemental of you. come off your high horse of trying to offer a new or different perspective on something. geez whats wrong with you.
Share your thoughts, your beliefs your research. Don't tell people what to do and imply they are stupid if they don't do things your way.
I agree. I DO get my blood tested every year to see where I am and what I need to add. Even in the summer time my vitamin D levels are below what they should be. I'm a member of Life Extensions which is where we get our supplements. They have a magazine which my husband reads that is all about supplements, what they do, how they work, what ones are good etc. and what the latest and newest supplements are. They do their own clinical tests, they have debunked many claims by the FDA (their so-called claim that Vitamin E does nothing for you for example).
We don't just take vitamins "willy nilly". We do our research. We get our blood tested and we take what we should. We don't eat crap, we eat an abundance of fruits and vegetables but it is not nearly adequate enough for me to get how much my body actually needs. If you feel that you're getting everything you need through your eating then good for you but please don't bash those people who religiously take supplements and don't assume that everyone who takes them are idiots who don't do their research.0 -
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You're kidding, right? The FDA is the biggest scam out there! Studies have proven that aspirin reduces your cancer risk but the FDA will not allow the makers of aspirin to make that claim any more and if they do then aspirin will be regulated and you will need a prescription to get it! They want to regulate ALL vitamins and force you to get them by prescription only. They claim that vitamins are harmful because they give them to their lab rats in doses that no one would ever be able to process.
They're a money hungry government funded operation that needs to be shut down period!
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Really? I have my issues with FDA also but are you in favor of getting rid of all oversight of medications? The drug companies (and supplement manufacturers) would love to be able to do away with all of those expensive clinical trials to evaluate safety and efficacy but then we'd be at the mercy of the manufacturers. The reality is that supplements are already exempt from FDA oversight unless they are going to be marketed as a medication. I think this is pretty reasonable.
I do agree that the disconnect is that the process to get the FDA stamp of approval has become so expensive that there is no financial motive to investigate treatments without profit. Also more and more of the research funding comes from Pharma due to the cost of large trials and shrinking financial support from the NIH. There are likely "natural" treatments that could be beneficial and we may never be able to evaluate them in the present system.
So the system is far from perfect bit still serves a purpose. There were thousands of thalidomide victims in Europe who wish an agency like the FDA had been keeping watch there.
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i get a lot of my nutrients from food but i dont eat a lot of meat so i take a whole foods multi-vitamin everyday.. also a B&C complex vitamin for the b12 and because vitamin c helps fight off sickness and i take a half of a 1000IU vitamin D whole foods vitamin because i also dont eat/drink a lot of dairy products. I used to take a magnesium but stopped last year.0
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You're kidding, right? The FDA is the biggest scam out there! Studies have proven that aspirin reduces your cancer risk but the FDA will not allow the makers of aspirin to make that claim any more and if they do then aspirin will be regulated and you will need a prescription to get it! They want to regulate ALL vitamins and force you to get them by prescription only. They claim that vitamins are harmful because they give them to their lab rats in doses that no one would ever be able to process.
They're a money hungry government funded operation that needs to be shut down period!
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Really? I have my issues with FDA also but are you in favor of getting rid of all oversight of medications? The drug companies (and supplement manufacturers) would love to be able to do away with all of those expensive clinical trials to evaluate safety and efficacy but then we'd be at the mercy of the manufacturers. The reality is that supplements are already exempt from FDA oversight unless they are going to be marketed as a medication. I think this is pretty reasonable.
I do agree that the disconnect is that the process to get the FDA stamp of approval has become so expensive that there is no financial motive to investigate treatments without profit. Also more and more of the research funding comes from Pharma due to the cost of large trials and shrinking financial support from the NIH. There are likely "natural" treatments that could be beneficial and we may never be able to evaluate them in the present system.
So the system is far from perfect bit still serves a purpose. There were thousands of thalidomide victims in Europe who wish an agency like the FDA had been keeping watch there.
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So you'd rather pay 1,000 times what you pay now for a prescription which if you were to get your supplements would have to be prescribed by Big Pharma which, oh by the way OWNS the FDA?! I'm not!
Why should my omega 3's or my coq10 be FDA regulated?
Have you not listened to the ads for the meds that that the FDA has deemed "acceptable" where one of the side effects is a "fatal event"? Or you might have to call your doctor if an "involuntary spasm occurs because this might become permanent". Really? Sorry but if the FDA is passing drugs like this and they're deemed "safe" then I will take my chances with my unregulated supplements.0 -
Women's Ultra Mega (GNC)
OxtELITE Pro
Alli
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Be careful with carb blockers. I have IBS so asked my gastro Dr. These blockers work in the colon and can cause lots of upset. I do not eat the veggies or much fiber either. vitamains help with nutrients. Another option is the diet shakes. They have the nutrients and fiber. I like the equate brand from wamart. Affordable but not yucky lol.0
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Nothing at all, just good wholesome and healthy foods. I hate a lot of them, but I am not big on eating so I just eat what is required, thinking of my healthy heart and being with my kids in to my old age. I try not to think of the taste if it's something I don't like, but I eat it anyway as I know it will do me good. 3 meals a day 20 mins a kick.
I have a degree in Animal Science and Physiology and I have read extensively on supplements for my dissertation. The short answer is, if it's longevity and good long term health you after, where all other variables are constant, it is much better to eat a natural, wholesome, varied diet with ceiling to your calorific intake and lots of moderate and regular exercise. The best supplements in the world are those that grow in the ground! They might not taste great, but if you're eating loads of tablets I don't think you're in it for the taste.
Lastly, as previously mentioned by others many supplements have been significantly linked to increased cancer risk. It's a challenging one statistically, but my view is that there is more evidence to suggest they are harmful, in an otherwise healthy body than there are to say they are useful.
Do not be enslaved by the smart marketing campaigns of the pharmaceutical companies that make these supplements. These companies are in it for profit and really know how to twist your world. I think you should take some of the detail out of it and just have a decent square meal.
I hope it makes sense to you and does not offend. I know it can be a sensitive matter and I wish you the best of luck with your goals.0 -
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It seems like no matter what I eat, I never get enough potassium.
I have been meat/milk/egg free for about 3 months now. My iron intake it usually always low.
Bananas for potassium.
Dark greens for iron, although iron can be a tough one I know. :happy:0 -
You can find a study that will support just about any point of view you want to take. I can quote numerous studies that show that supplements protect against cancer. And some of those studies that show increased cancer risk are flawed or spun to make them seem more dramatic. Taking vitamin E is supposed to increase your risk for prostate cancer. Yet the same study showed that taking vitamin E with selenium (which is normal in a multivitamin) does not increase your risk. They never seem to mention that last part.
I agree that getting your vitamins from food is best. But if that isn't possible, then I believe that vitamins are a good alternative and the benefits far outweigh any risk.
Just my opinion and something that everyone needs to decide for themselves.0 -
Nothing at all, just good wholesome and healthy foods. I hate a lot of them, but I am not big on eating so I just eat what is required, thinking of my healthy heart and being with my kids in to my old age. I try not to think of the taste if it's something I don't like, but I eat it anyway as I know it will do me good. 3 meals a day 20 mins a kick.
I have a degree in Animal Science and Physiology and I have read extensively on supplements for my dissertation. The short answer is, if it's longevity and good long term health you after, where all other variables are constant, it is much better to eat a natural, wholesome, varied diet with ceiling to your calorific intake and lots of moderate and regular exercise. The best supplements in the world are those that grow in the ground! They might not taste great, but if you're eating loads of tablets I don't think you're in it for the taste.
Lastly, as previously mentioned by others many supplements have been significantly linked to increased cancer risk. It's a challenging one statistically, but my view is that there is more evidence to suggest they are harmful, in an otherwise healthy body than there are to say they are useful.
Do not be enslaved by the smart marketing campaigns of the pharmaceutical companies that make these supplements. These companies are in it for profit and really know how to twist your world. I think you should take some of the detail out of it and just have a decent square meal.
I hope it makes sense to you and does not offend. I know it can be a sensitive matter and I wish you the best of luck with your goals.
dont bother. it doesnt matter what your background is. these people love being slaves to big pharma.0 -
Don't talk about people like second-class citizens. It makes you look like an *kitten*.dont bother. it doesnt matter what your background is. these people love being slaves to big pharma.0 -
Nothing at all, just good wholesome and healthy foods. I hate a lot of them, but I am not big on eating so I just eat what is required, thinking of my healthy heart and being with my kids in to my old age. I try not to think of the taste if it's something I don't like, but I eat it anyway as I know it will do me good. 3 meals a day 20 mins a kick.
I have a degree in Animal Science and Physiology and I have read extensively on supplements for my dissertation. The short answer is, if it's longevity and good long term health you after, where all other variables are constant, it is much better to eat a natural, wholesome, varied diet with ceiling to your calorific intake and lots of moderate and regular exercise. The best supplements in the world are those that grow in the ground! They might not taste great, but if you're eating loads of tablets I don't think you're in it for the taste.
Lastly, as previously mentioned by others many supplements have been significantly linked to increased cancer risk. It's a challenging one statistically, but my view is that there is more evidence to suggest they are harmful, in an otherwise healthy body than there are to say they are useful.
Do not be enslaved by the smart marketing campaigns of the pharmaceutical companies that make these supplements. These companies are in it for profit and really know how to twist your world. I think you should take some of the detail out of it and just have a decent square meal.
I hope it makes sense to you and does not offend. I know it can be a sensitive matter and I wish you the best of luck with your goals.
dont bother. it doesnt matter what your background is. these people love being slaves to big pharma.
And here I thought you were against stereotyping or at least you were a few weeks ago.0 -
even if you are eating all the healthy foods, you still should be taking supplements. Atleast a multivitamen, fishoil etc0
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