Bye Bye Death Penalty
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So they are abolishing the death penalty in CT. I am honestly sickened by this! In my opinion, some people cross a line of doing something/s so horrible that they lost their right to live in our world/society/community and no one is to blame but themselves!
So do you live in one of the 16 (about to be 17) states were there is no death penalty?? I know this is a touchy subject and I truly feel everyone is right in their way of thinking no matter what your stance is on it. Just curious to some of the views on this and the place you live.
So do you live in one of the 16 (about to be 17) states were there is no death penalty?? I know this is a touchy subject and I truly feel everyone is right in their way of thinking no matter what your stance is on it. Just curious to some of the views on this and the place you live.
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While I have trouble with people like Charlie Manson still being alive, I feel that it is difficult to teach that killing someone for a punishment is ever valid.0
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We don't have the death penalty here in Canada. But I am pro-death penalty as long as it is 100% with out a doubt guilty. A lot of innocent people were killed while it was in place. Granted, the laws and ways to find adequate evidence has changed.0
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I was born in Texas, that should about sum up my view on the subject.0
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This will probably be an unpopular opinion - but it amazes me that there are any states in the US that still have the death penalty. It seems medieval to me.
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We don't have the death penalty here in Canada. But I am pro-death penalty as long as it is 100% with out a doubt guilty. A lot of innocent people were killed while it was in place. Granted, the laws and ways to find adequate evidence has changed.
I feel the same way! I would never want someone sentenced to death unless there was 100% DNA evidence that linked them or they openly admitted to the crime. Without that, it's just not right to tell someone they are to be punished by death when it can't even be proven without a doubt.0 -
I was born in Texas, that should about sum up my view on the subject.
Haha! It does0 -
I was born in Texas, that should about sum up my view on the subject.0
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"While some states try to abolish the death penalty, my state is putting in an express lane" Paraphrased from Ron White..0
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I was born in Texas, that should about sum up my view on the subject.
I live in Texas. Sometimes, my lights flicker when someone goes down in Huntsville Texas (jk).0 -
I'm Canadian also, and I do agree that if the person is 100% guilty, some people are just evil and deserve to die. For example, there's a murder trial going on in London, ON right now of a man who sexually assaulted and killed a little girl. The most he'll get is 25 years (that's the harshest penalty in Canada), probably eligible for parole after half of that. THAT is sad.0
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I'm 100% for the death penalty.
I live in CT now and I don't think it should be taken away.
There are some people who just deserve to die - serial murders, serial rapists, etc that can not and will not change with time in prison.
However, (I may be wrong on this point, please correct me if I am), it is rather expensive to have someone on death row vs life in prison... SO from a financial POV, no death penalty might be the way...0 -
This will probably be an unpopular opinion - but it amazes me that there are any states in the US that still have the death penalty. It seems medieval to me.
(From Britain)
I think it's when I hear of these horrible crimes and I picture how these people were killed, so brutally and many times for no "reason", (I use that term loosely), I just don't feel they have the right to breath the air that they so quickly and horrifically took from another human being.0 -
I'm not against in in theory, but I'd rather see in abolished if it can't be adequately reformed.0
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I'm Canadian also, and I do agree that if the person is 100% guilty, some people are just evil and deserve to die. For example, there's a murder trial going on in London, ON right now of a man who sexually assaulted and killed a little girl. The most he'll get is 25 years (that's the harshest penalty in Canada), probably eligible for parole after half of that. THAT is sad.
It's so sad! I hate that some people are so sick! That poor child!
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Another example of our country and world becoming a Brady bunch pu$$y version of itself. Disgusting! We need more capital punishment, not less. Public flogging should be applauded, not looked down upon.0
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I am in Oklahoma, we have the death penalty and I have a degree in Criminal Justice. I have studied the criminal element and seen crime sceen photos that support my thinking that some people need to be removed from this earth as they are beyond rehabilitation and there is no legit reason to keep them alive. Personally, I believe anyone convicted of child molestation should be put to death as you cannot change someone's sexual preference. You could lock me up for 20 years and tell me every day that I shouldn't have sex with women but the first day I am out I am going to find a woman and get down and dirty. So you can't tell me that someone who gets their rocks off by being with a kid can be told it is wrong and then suddenly go, "Yeah, you are right. I'm changed and will never do it again." They are too much of a danger to the most vulnerable people out there, kids.
Oh, and if that ain't enough I have two more words for you to support that some people just need to die........Tim McVeigh.0 -
I'm against the death penalty - there have been some cases when the person hasn't been guilty.
Killing for killing = wrong IMO.0 -
I live in Alabama, so we still have it down here. I know this is such a touchy issue.
My opinion, is there are certain crimes, that the criminal does not deserve their life anymore. That man, if I am remembering right he is from CT, where his wife and 2 daughters were raped and murdered (burned a live)...those 2 men do not deserve their lives. They showed that they had no mercy and they do not contribute anything to our society. Their acts showed that they do not respect life...they did not respect those women's lives or their own.
Just my opinion. We had a brutal rape here in my small town (I won't give details, but she, 19 year old girl, will never have children....what he did to her is beyond disturbing)...if they catch this man, I think he should be sentenced to death. I know it was a rape and she did survive, but what he did was so brutal and barbaric, he has showed that he does not respect life.0 -
There are people who have committed crimes so heinous that I'd pull the lever myself.
However, our court system is so screwed up that I don't trust any guilty verdicts anymore, especially if the culprit isn't white. Until we fix our court system, I'm all for abolishing the death penalty. You can't appeal when you're dead.
Unfortunately, the way the system works now, you have a better chance of being able to appeal from death row than if you're in prison for life, however. And if you and your family have no money you're plain out of luck if you want something like DNA tested to prove your innocence. So the appeals system needs to change, too.0 -
My state does not have the death penalty (MA) but I am against it anyways.
To me, it seems the easy way out for these people. You murdered/raped/did countless other things to another human being, and what will we do- give you a somewhat painless death for it. I think keeping them alive and living in solitary confinement is a much harsher punishment.
Not to mention the fact of the countless people that are put to death and are innocent of the crimes due to faulty DNA or eye-witness testimony. While DNA testing is pretty solid now, there is always a chance of a mistake being made. Not to mention that there is no way to have an unbiased trial by a jury of your peers.
But hey- just me .02 worth.0 -
So they are abolishing the death penalty in CT. I am honestly sickened by this! In my opinion, some people cross a line of doing something/s so horrible that they lost their right to live in our world/society/community and no one is to blame but themselves!
So do you live in one of the 16 (about to be 17) states were there is no death penalty?? I know this is a touchy subject and I truly feel everyone is right in their way of thinking no matter what your stance is on it. Just curious to some of the views on this and the place you live.
That's our awesome Governor for you. I'm surprised he didn't keep it and just tax the hell out of the people who are on death row. :happy:
I agree that they shouldn't have abolished it however no one ever gets put to death and we end up paying for them while they rot in jail. It'd be different if we actually executed people.0 -
I'm against the death penalty - there have been some cases when the person hasn't been guilty.
Killing for killing = wrong IMO.
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I'm 100% for the death penalty.
I live in CT now and I don't think it should be taken away.
There are some people who just deserve to die - serial murders, serial rapists, etc that can not and will not change with time in prison.
However, (I may be wrong on this point, please correct me if I am), it is rather expensive to have someone on death row vs life in prison... SO from a financial POV, no death penalty might be the way...
Well they could eliminate the cost by just "getting on with the show" lol. But honestly! Why does it need to take 20 yrs of appeals? If DNA proves it 100% just do it and be on to the next one. I know that sounds harsh, but I hold no sympathy in my heart for people that are derranged. But I definetly see your point as well because that's not the way it is sadly.0 -
I think they should all be put on a desert island. Let them kill each other instead of us paying for them to watch tv-body build-and make royalties from books they write while in prison.0
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This will probably be an unpopular opinion - but it amazes me that there are any states in the US that still have the death penalty. It seems medieval to me.
(From Britain)
I think it's when I hear of these horrible crimes and I picture how these people were killed, so brutally and many times for no "reason", (I use that term loosely), I just don't feel they have the right to breath the air that they so quickly and horrifically took from another human being.
I do get that, and feel the same, honestly. I just think meeting violence with violence isn't the way that a civilised society behaves. Look at what other countries in the world still do it - are they countries you want to be in the same club as?
I also think that if even one person in a thousand is wrongly executed, that's too many, and the only way to avoid that is not to execute people at all.
Also - if the death penalty's OK, are other forms of corporal punishment OK too? Is it OK to cut the hands off people who steal, or stone women who commit adultery, or allow teachers to flog pupils for misbehaving in class? Where does it then end?0 -
I'm Canadian also, and I do agree that if the person is 100% guilty, some people are just evil and deserve to die. For example, there's a murder trial going on in London, ON right now of a man who sexually assaulted and killed a little girl. The most he'll get is 25 years (that's the harshest penalty in Canada), probably eligible for parole after half of that. THAT is sad.
I don't know about Canadian prisons but the first people shanked in the yard in US prisons are people who do things to kids.0 -
However, our court system is so screwed up that I don't trust any guilty verdicts anymore, especially if the culprit isn't white.
Agreed! There was a case of that not long ago.0 -
I don't support the death penalty. I think if the persons family (the person who got killed/raped/whatever) should be able to kill that person if they want to. Some families DON'T support the death penalty and just feel guilty about killing someone else.
I am pretty sure it also costs more to use the death penalty than is does for someone to stay in prison until they die. I'll have to look that up again.0 -
I am in Oklahoma, we have the death penalty and I have a degree in Criminal Justice. I have studied the criminal element and seen crime sceen photos that support my thinking that some people need to be removed from this earth as they are beyond rehabilitation and there is no legit reason to keep them alive. Personally, I believe anyone convicted of child molestation should be put to death as you cannot change someone's sexual preference. You could lock me up for 20 years and tell me every day that I shouldn't have sex with women but the first day I am out I am going to find a woman and get down and dirty. So you can't tell me that someone who gets their rocks off by being with a kid can be told it is wrong and then suddenly go, "Yeah, you are right. I'm changed and will never do it again." They are too much of a danger to the most vulnerable people out there, kids.
Oh, and if that ain't enough I have two more words for you to support that some people just need to die........Tim McVeigh.
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The death penalty is just way too expensive. It costs less to jail someone for life than to fry them. That's why New Jersey got rid of it a few years ago.
Besides, I rather see somone rot in jail everday for the rest of their life than get the easy way out.0
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