Carbs are making you fat
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Sorry if I am repeating anything said, I didn't make it past the first page without this one thing to say, as it irks me when people go back and forth about "studies show..." or " no, new studies show..." etc.
Bottom line: I can take ANY amount of data, pick out what I want to fit my desired outcome and it is still technically a legitimate study. Further, Studies can be altered by means of line of questioning. A person can literally be made to agree to anything! Basic statistics folks.
My personal study suggests a universal answer... DO WHAT WORKS FOR YOU!!
Sorry to sound *****y, but the matter-of-facters based on "studies and evidence" start to bug after a while. . . Unless you have a PHD and havd done the study physically yourself, stop offering other peoples advice based on a biased study. I am pretty sure I am going to catch flack for this but whatever, it's F***ing Monday, end of the month, payroll week and I am an accountant. . . you do the math on how my day has been.... thanks!
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Nice job. You chased a newbie out of a chat room that is meant to be a place of support. You might not agree with the op but you could at least respond with respect and sensitivity.
This!0 -
At least it seems like most everyone agress that processed foods are bad.
Then most everyone is an idiot
LOL. I should probably be insulted but this made me laugh for some reason. After reading the posts since then I realize that this is one of those posts where you have to be extremely careful what you say and not assume people know what you mean. Processed foods as in Cheetos. Can we agree that Cheetos are not healthy??0 -
At least it seems like most everyone agress that processed foods are bad.
Then most everyone is an idiot
LOL. I should probably be insulted but this made me laugh for some reason. After reading the posts since then I realize that this is one of those posts where you have to be extremely careful what you say and not assume people know what you mean. Processed foods as in Cheetos. Can we agree that Cheetos are not healthy??
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At least it seems like most everyone agress that processed foods are bad.
Then most everyone is an idiot
LOL. I should probably be insulted but this made me laugh for some reason. After reading the posts since then I realize that this is one of those posts where you have to be extremely careful what you say and not assume people know what you mean. Processed foods as in Cheetos. Can we agree that Cheetos are not healthy??
I am sooo in the mood for some cheetos right now. . . .0 -
i could go for some cheetos. the twisted puffy kind...yummmmm0
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Carbs do not make you fat. Carbs may give you water retention, but like many things...it passes.
What makes you fat is eating a calorie surplus and sitting on the couch all day.
Agree with this 100%. Now a days, the go-to foods for most people are quick grabs like chips, tortillas, candy... basically things that are loaded with SUGARS (carbs)... and they gain weight from being lazy while overeating on these carbs.... which can easily be translated into "Carbs make you fat." HOWEVER, an excess of anything can make you "fat" if you're not careful.
If someone was sitting around all day eating a calorie surplus of fruit (ahem... carbs), I don't think it would effect them nearly as much as the surplus of sugary processed carbs does since fruit contains things like fiber and water... and of course essential vitamins.
In a nutshell- carbs DID contribute to my weight gain (i.e. make me fat). However it was a mixture of eating too many and not getting off my lazy *kitten* in the meantime. Had I been more active, I would have had less time to eat all these processed carbs and wouldn't have gained the weight I did.
I see where OP is coming from. I didn't read the article.. however I think his statement is too strong and general.. thus creating all this lovely controversy around the topic. :laugh:
Now that I have become more active and have incorporated better carbs into my diet (i.e. no white breads, more fruit and veggies) I'm seeing the weight come off!0 -
At least it seems like most everyone agress that processed foods are bad.
Then most everyone is an idiot
LOL. I should probably be insulted but this made me laugh for some reason. After reading the posts since then I realize that this is one of those posts where you have to be extremely careful what you say and not assume people know what you mean. Processed foods as in Cheetos. Can we agree that Cheetos are not healthy??
awww someone DOES care!! thanks, I feel better already!0 -
My great aunt died of carbohydrates.
Yeah, mine too. We served cupcakes at the funeral just to spite her.0 -
One swears by whole meal bread, one by sour milk; vegetarianism is the only road to salvation of some, other insist not only on vegetables alone, but on eating those raw. At one time the only thing that matters is calories; at another time they are crazy about vitamins or about roughage.
The scientific truth may be put quite briefly; eat moderately, having an ordinary mixed diet, and don't worry.
Robert Hutchinson (1877-1960), Newcastle Medical Journal, Vol 12, 19320 -
eat a balanced diet of (good) carbs, proteins, and fats. The body needs all to function. Sheesh!0
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No need to get all butt hurt, if you can't handle a debate you've entered the wrong thread.cool. You're right. You win. Take care
Ah ok. Well, first off, thank you for jumping in between Acg and me where I was literally asking him what he meant in his post. You said that I was saying that processed foods are bad. However, if you look back to the posts I've written, you can see that what Acg and I were talking about was the conflict on the definition of what people considered processed food. Since I have usually respected what Acg writes in the past, I wanted to clearify what Acg wrote is what I understood correctly. English is my 4th language and everything doesnt really translate well on text. I wanted to clearify if in his opinion eating at McD's and drinking soda (my definition of processed food) was good eats. He clearified in his way that he was referring to processed foods such as whey protein and milk etc.
Like I said, even the chicken I grill with nothing added to it can be considered processed food and ACG and I were talking about what constitutes as processed food in this context.
Thanks for replying though, I can see you're a very smart man.0 -
My great aunt died of carbohydrates.
Yeah, mine too. We served cupcakes at the funeral just to spite her.
Mmmm...cupcakes.
Sorry about your aunt, though.0 -
Everyone is always looking for the boogieman. Its not carbs, fats, sugar, processed food (whatever that is), gluten, red meat, blah blah blah on and on.
Its not that alcohol that made you drive drunk.
Not the gun that killed that guy.
Not the government subsidies or evil corps that push grains.
It is you...eating to much that makes you fat. and unhealthy.0 -
pffft whatever most of what I eat are carbs! I luv me sum bread0
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Everyone is always looking for the boogieman. Its not carbs, fats, sugar, processed food (whatever that is), gluten, red meat, blah blah blah on and on.
Its not that alcohol that made you drive drunk.
Not the gun that killed that guy.
Not the government subsidies or evil corps that push grains.
It is you...eating to much that makes you fat. and unhealthy.
Carbs don't make people fat. . . PEOPLE MAKE PEOPLE FAT!!!! period. end of story. you may be excused.0 -
Sorry if I am repeating anything said, I didn't make it past the first page without this one thing to say, as it irks me when people go back and forth about "studies show..." or " no, new studies show..." etc.
Bottom line: I can take ANY amount of data, pick out what I want to fit my desired outcome and it is still technically a legitimate study. Further, Studies can be altered by means of line of questioning. A person can literally be made to agree to anything! Basic statistics folks.
My personal study suggests a universal answer... DO WHAT WORKS FOR YOU!!
Sorry to sound *****y, but the matter-of-facters based on "studies and evidence" start to bug after a while. . . Unless you have a PHD and havd done the study physically yourself, stop offering other peoples advice based on a biased study. I am pretty sure I am going to catch flack for this but whatever, it's F***ing Monday, end of the month, payroll week and I am an accountant. . . you do the math on how my day has been.... thanks!
I'm curious as to what you mean that studies can be altered by "means of a line of questioning" And you are correct you can find a study to support about any argument out there, but when looking at the entire body of evidence you will get a clearer picture of where that evidence points.0 -
But you have to balance your carbs with protein. If you do that, you'll be just fine.
I've been doing it for 40 days and I lost 20 pounds.0 -
Nice job. You chased a newbie out of a chat room that is meant to be a place of support. You might not agree with the op but you could at least respond with respect and sensitivity.
This!
Uhhh...what?0 -
Everyone is always looking for the boogieman. Its not carbs, fats, sugar, processed food (whatever that is), gluten, red meat, blah blah blah on and on.
Its not that alcohol that made you drive drunk.
Not the gun that killed that guy.
Not the government subsidies or evil corps that push grains.
It is you...eating to much.
You are my new crush--but don't worry, I'm not a stalker. I just adore common sense!
Carbs don't make you fat, protein doesn't make you fat, sugar doesn't make you fat...YOU make you fat when you eat more calories than you expend on a consistent and continuous basis. It's not brain surgery. It's about consistently making good, varied food choices and getting a reasonable amount of exercise. And yeah... I take my own advice now, and it works for me!0 -
Everyone is always looking for the boogieman. Its not carbs, fats, sugar, processed food (whatever that is), gluten, red meat, blah blah blah on and on.
Its not that alcohol that made you drive drunk.
Not the gun that killed that guy.
Not the government subsidies or evil corps that push grains.
It is you...eating to much that makes you fat. and unhealthy.
Carbs don't make people fat. . . PEOPLE MAKE PEOPLE FAT!!!! period. end of story. you may be excused.
People only make you fat if you eat to many of them. k thanks. : )0 -
eating toast at 11pm while I read this thread
Eating cake at 11:30 PM. Surely I'll wake up tomorrow morning, the size of a whale?0 -
My great aunt died of carbohydrates.
Yeah, mine too. We served cupcakes at the funeral just to spite her.
Mmmm...cupcakes.
Sorry about your aunt, though.
It's been scientifically proven that all people who consume carbohydrates will, at some point, die.
Obviously, carbohydrates = death.0 -
Sorry if I am repeating anything said, I didn't make it past the first page without this one thing to say, as it irks me when people go back and forth about "studies show..." or " no, new studies show..." etc.
Bottom line: I can take ANY amount of data, pick out what I want to fit my desired outcome and it is still technically a legitimate study. Further, Studies can be altered by means of line of questioning. A person can literally be made to agree to anything! Basic statistics folks.
My personal study suggests a universal answer... DO WHAT WORKS FOR YOU!!
Sorry to sound *****y, but the matter-of-facters based on "studies and evidence" start to bug after a while. . . Unless you have a PHD and havd done the study physically yourself, stop offering other peoples advice based on a biased study. I am pretty sure I am going to catch flack for this but whatever, it's F***ing Monday, end of the month, payroll week and I am an accountant. . . you do the math on how my day has been.... thanks!
I'm curious as to what you mean that studies can be altered by "means of a line of questioning" And you are correct you can find a study to support about any argument out there, but when looking at the entire body of evidence you will get a clearer picture of where that evidence points.
When studies are done to prove or disprove something (bias-driven result) the line of questioning can be chosen in such a way that it can either support or disprove the subject at hand. Happens all the time.
ANd what you may consider evidence, I may not. What is supportive to you, may not be supportive to me. How can you truely establish a fact-driven statement unless you experience it for yourself? This is the sole reason why I may consider internet or reading material advice, but ultimately make my decision based on trial and error. Thank God for that too, otherwise I would have purchased a home at peak market, sold all of my gold, and have a lifetime supply of the South Beach Diet on hand...0 -
My great aunt died of carbohydrates.
Yeah, mine too. We served cupcakes at the funeral just to spite her.
Mmmm...cupcakes.
Sorry about your aunt, though.
It's been scientifically proven that all people who consume carbohydrates will, at some point, die.
Obviously, carbohydrates = death.
Ding ding ding!! Round 3 we have a winner!!
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I do believe I need to see more examples of men who eat lots of carbs similar to these guys, can you think of a few more examples....I do believe I am currently craving some carbs
Let's see:
Zyzz ate carbs
Greg Plitt eats carbs
Manu eats carbs
Josef Rakich eats carbs
Yea, these guys are just bursting with fat cells.0 -
My great aunt died of carbohydrates.
Too much or too little?0 -
My great aunt died of carbohydrates.
Yeah, mine too. We served cupcakes at the funeral just to spite her.
Mmmm...cupcakes.
Sorry about your aunt, though.
It's been scientifically proven that all people who consume carbohydrates will, at some point, die.
Obviously, carbohydrates = death.
Yes, I believe I remember a double -blind study proving this. However, the subjects who ate the cupcakes died happy at least.0 -
The only reason I low carb is because it helps me stay at a deficit. As a major carb lover, having just one/two pieces of bread or 1 bowl of cereal is torture. Not having it at all is not torture. I eventually need to learn moderation but I'd rather eat 600g of broccoli and a pound or two of chicken to keep me full rather than a tiny bowl of pasta...which would lead me to eating at least half a pound of it or more.0
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Ding ding ding!! Round 3 we have a winner!!It's been scientifically proven that all people who consume carbohydrates will, at some point, die.
Obviously, carbohydrates = death.
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