Women, learn to pull up your pants!
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Men aren't systematically oppressed. They are less likely to be body-policed, and I have yet to see a thread body policing men, though I do see many targeting women.
You know I'm going to get banned for this.. You aren't bright.. If that is what you got out of the main topic then your ability to pick up sarcasm and humor is way off and you are over sensitive. It was a humor topic, read my starter post again, if you see that as body-policing you are insane and easy to stir.. God forbid how angry every day life must make you. Now I'm wasted enough time getting into a snip with you. I'll take my own advice and ignore you.
Once again, "humor" doesn't excuse body-policing and misogyny, just like it doesn't excuse racism, ableism, cissexism, homophobia, or any other form of discrimination and oppression.0 -
Am I the only one that things going commando is nasty when working out?! I mean you are all sweaty and sticky.. yuck.. no swampass for me thanks. I'll stick with underwear and no crotch sweat stains on my workout pants.
I do think commando would be nasty when working out. But now that I know people do this, you can bet I'll be using even more sani-wipes!0 -
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"She's hot" =/= "She needs to cover up because it is her responsibility to control my desire, not my own"
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This line of logic always make me furious. I was skirting around this issue in my post to avoid a huge internet argument......but since we're on the topic....
I wholeheartedly agree. Just being an attractive female doesn't make anyone obligated to cover up their body because someone ELSE can't control their sexual desire.0 -
LOL this is so entertaining....0
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Hahah, well this was a good laugh :P0
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Am I the only woman who thinks working out in a thong would be torture?? Ugh! I'd much rather go commando
Am I the only woman who finds thongs quite comfortable and rarely wear any other type of underwear? :blushing:
No i feel the exact same way...i try my hardest not to have my *kitten* all hanging out tho, but my booty is big so here and there itll happen..im not perfect.0 -
Self control. It's a lost art.
Had plenty of self control to keep it to myself til I got to mfp :-)
I don't see what the big deal is to saying women pull your pants up. They say it to men that show their boxers and underwear all the time. PANTS ON THE GROUND. PANTS ON THE GROUND.. LOOKING LIKE A FOOL WITH YOUR PANTS ON THE GROUND.
It's not very fashionable, but nobody tells men to pull their pants up because "OMG YOUR BODY IS A SEX OBJECT AND THEREFORE DISTRACTING", they tell them to pull their pants up because to some people it just looks silly.
You don't know that, some women may find that attractive, just as this woman might have been objectifying her body. Since you weren't there you are jumping to snarky conclusions. Thus your whole point is counter-intuitive because no one knows what the motives of the other person is. In fact I never said it was a sex object. I said she was a beautiful lady and it was distracting. Anytime you have someone come into a place and place their butt in your area/space it'd be distracting, she just happened to be attractive. If it was a unattractive person you can bet it would of been distracting as well. So take that holy than thou and smoke it ;-)
The issue is the body-policing and rape culture-based idea that women need to cover up because men can't control themselves.
The issue is you are taking it there. So are you saying a man can show major skin and be ripped and women wouldn't objectify him? That men with their shirts off working that women don't swoon over them? Get off your high horse and lighten up. You are just making a mountain out of a molehill. Chill a bit, stress makes you gain weight. Oh wait.. .there was a topic where a woman in chit-chat said men show me your pictures.. I don't see you in there complaining though.
Men aren't systematically oppressed. They are less likely to be body-policed, and I have yet to see a thread body policing men, though I do see many targeting women.
You know I'm going to get banned for this.. You aren't bright.. If that is what you got out of the main topic then your ability to pick up sarcasm and humor is way off and you are over sensitive. It was a humor topic, read my starter post again, if you see that as body-policing you are insane and easy to stir.. God forbid how angry every day life must make you. Now I'm wasted enough time getting into a snip with you. I'll take my own advice and ignore you.
It's not oversensitivity... it's the fact that women ARE objectified and oppressed on a daily basis and people try and cover it up with humor but it's still oppression.
do you not realize that the argument you are making of "she should cover up because it's distracting" is the SAME argument rapists make by saying "She wanted it because she was wearing a miniskirt"?0 -
Hahah, well this was a good laugh :P
ahhaha same exact post, same time.0 -
It's not oversensitivity... it's the fact that women ARE objectified and oppressed on a daily basis and people try and cover it up with humor but it's still oppression.
do you not realize that the argument you are making of "she should cover up because it's distracting" is the SAME argument rapists make by saying "She wanted it because she was wearing a miniskirt"?
Yes indeedy. Gotta love rape culture. :grumble:0 -
please take pictures and post it here. thanks0
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Pretty much off topic but yesterday at the gym this rather attractive guy rocks in, water pack on his back and running gear on. Now I'm thinking, wow he must be going to do some full on cardio. I was impressed and a little jealous because I'd love to be able to run like that. He hikes the treadmill up to some kicka** level and starts running, full pelt running and I was even more impressed. Less than 5 minutes later he slow does to a walk and then gets off and just strolls around the gym doing nothing in particular. Illusion shattered!!0
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Men aren't systematically oppressed. They are less likely to be body-policed, and I have yet to see a thread body policing men, though I do see many targeting women.
You know I'm going to get banned for this.. You aren't bright.. If that is what you got out of the main topic then your ability to pick up sarcasm and humor is way off and you are over sensitive. It was a humor topic, read my starter post again, if you see that as body-policing you are insane and easy to stir.. God forbid how angry every day life must make you. Now I'm wasted enough time getting into a snip with you. I'll take my own advice and ignore you.
Once again, "humor" doesn't excuse body-policing and misogyny, just like it doesn't excuse racism, ableism, cissexism, homophobia, or any other form of discrimination and oppression.
wow are you really trying to say that saying someone needs to pull there pants up is body-policing and the same level of racism, homophobia and discrimination.
It's a pretty common known fact that underwear should be "under" your clothes, following general society views and practices isn't body-policing. Body policing would be something like saying don't wear those volleyball shorts because I can't stop from wanting to reach out and grab them. Or you can't wear that as it makes me not be able to control myself. Saying to pull up your pants to fit into a standard that society has set is not body policing. If you want to be a rebel or go against societies grain then you as a whole should be ready for a backlash as you are going against the proverbial grain. You seem like you are grasping to understand the body-policing aspect in society so that shouldn't be hard to understand.
Ex. saying your pants should cover your underwear = general view of society - not going to be body-policing.
Saying you can't wear something period because it's sexual would be body-policing. I never said she couldn't wear the thong, I was asking for her to follow the general view of society. Do you need a chart drawn up.
Or here let me put it in laymans terms.
Society has a set views.. like drugs.. society has a general view that drugs = bad. Someone comes along and decides, no drugs aren't bad I like them. So it's wrong for society to say hey you are a distraction for taking drugs, we don't think you should do that? That is the point.
Had I had a problem with her Yoga pants, that would of been body-policing.. Having a problem with going against societies grain is far from that.0 -
I get distracted by some VERY attractive guys at the gym, also by some VERY attractive women. I guess I'm easily distracted...
Side story.. At my gym awhile back. I was working out with my girlfriend. I was wearing workout shorts. After doing a few reps of some leg exercises. My friend kindly tells me you can TOTALLY see up my shorts... Thank God I was wearing a thong and not going commando or the people at the gym would've seen a triple XXX that they weren't expecting. LOL!! :blushing:0 -
Am I the only woman who thinks working out in a thong would be torture?? Ugh! I'd much rather go commando
^^^^^ what SHE said. OUCH. Though... is crack at the top of the yoga pants better? I just try to wear a longer shirt when I wear pants like that ;-)0 -
Self control. It's a lost art.
Had plenty of self control to keep it to myself til I got to mfp :-)
I don't see what the big deal is to saying women pull your pants up. They say it to men that show their boxers and underwear all the time. PANTS ON THE GROUND. PANTS ON THE GROUND.. LOOKING LIKE A FOOL WITH YOUR PANTS ON THE GROUND.
It's not very fashionable, but nobody tells men to pull their pants up because "OMG YOUR BODY IS A SEX OBJECT AND THEREFORE DISTRACTING", they tell them to pull their pants up because to some people it just looks silly.
You don't know that, some women may find that attractive, just as this woman might have been objectifying her body. Since you weren't there you are jumping to snarky conclusions. Thus your whole point is counter-intuitive because no one knows what the motives of the other person is. In fact I never said it was a sex object. I said she was a beautiful lady and it was distracting. Anytime you have someone come into a place and place their butt in your area/space it'd be distracting, she just happened to be attractive. If it was a unattractive person you can bet it would of been distracting as well. So take that holy than thou and smoke it ;-)
The issue is the body-policing and rape culture-based idea that women need to cover up because men can't control themselves.
The issue is you are taking it there. So are you saying a man can show major skin and be ripped and women wouldn't objectify him? That men with their shirts off working that women don't swoon over them? Get off your high horse and lighten up. You are just making a mountain out of a molehill. Chill a bit, stress makes you gain weight. Oh wait.. .there was a topic where a woman in chit-chat said men show me your pictures.. I don't see you in there complaining though.
Men aren't systematically oppressed. They are less likely to be body-policed, and I have yet to see a thread body policing men, though I do see many targeting women.
You know I'm going to get banned for this.. You aren't bright.. If that is what you got out of the main topic then your ability to pick up sarcasm and humor is way off and you are over sensitive. It was a humor topic, read my starter post again, if you see that as body-policing you are insane and easy to stir.. God forbid how angry every day life must make you. Now I'm wasted enough time getting into a snip with you. I'll take my own advice and ignore you.
It's not oversensitivity... it's the fact that women ARE objectified and oppressed on a daily basis and people try and cover it up with humor but it's still oppression.
do you not realize that the argument you are making of "she should cover up because it's distracting" is the SAME argument rapists make by saying "She wanted it because she was wearing a miniskirt"?
Not even close. Saying something is distracting is far cry from saying someone wanted something.
Like a previous argument - someone is doing drugs. Someone says, I watched them doing drugs and it distracted me from what I was doing.. is a far cry from what you are making it out to be.
Again I stated that even if it wasn't an attractive lady it would of been distracting.. There was a persons underwear in your face.. Goes against societies norm.0 -
I get distracted by some VERY attractive guys at the gym, also by some VERY attractive women. I guess I'm easily distracted...
Side story.. At my gym awhile back. I was working out with my girlfriend. I was wearing workout shorts. After doing a few reps of some leg exercises. My friend kindly tells me you can TOTALLY see up my shorts... Thank God I was wearing a thong and not going commando or the people at the gym would've seen a triple XXX that they weren't expecting. LOL!! :blushing:
How dare you objectify men at the gym.. I sure hope that the two people in here get onto you about that.. BODY-POLICING!! BODY-POLICING ;-) Distracting means you must want to have sex with them, because apparently society is uncapable of thinking someone is unattractive without wanting to sleep with them now.
For the record, I never even thought about having "relations" with the woman in the original topic, I did feel bad for looking but I didn't think I should of had to stop what I was doing just because she wanted to dress a certain way. So by her choosing what to wear (even if was a mistake/accident) it has a right to infringe upon my space and what I was doing. I love the rules that people like to play by. As long as it allows me to do what I want its okay if it completely goes against another persons rights.0 -
wow are you really trying to say that saying someone needs to pull there pants up is body-policing and the same level of racism, homophobia and discrimination.
It's a pretty common known fact that underwear should be "under" your clothes, following general society views and practices isn't body-policing. Body policing would be something like saying don't wear those volleyball shorts because I can't stop from wanting to reach out and grab them. Or you can't wear that as it makes me not be able to control myself. Saying to pull up your pants to fit into a standard that society has set is not body policing. If you want to be a rebel or go against societies grain then you as a whole should be ready for a backlash as you are going against the proverbial grain. You seem like you are grasping to understand the body-policing aspect in society so that shouldn't be hard to understand.
Ex. saying your pants should cover your underwear = general view of society - not going to be body-policing.
Saying you can't wear something period because it's sexual would be body-policing. I never said she couldn't wear the thong, I was asking for her to follow the general view of society. Do you need a chart drawn up.
Or here let me put it in laymans terms.
Society has a set views.. like drugs.. society has a general view that drugs = bad. Someone comes along and decides, no drugs aren't bad I like them. So it's wrong for society to say hey you are a distraction for taking drugs, we don't think you should do that? That is the point.
Had I had a problem with her Yoga pants, that would of been body-policing.. Having a problem with going against societies grain is far from that.
Yes.
Society is wrong and misogynistic, as well as ableist, racist, homophobic, cissexist, etc.
Society once didn't want women to wear pants, but was it actually WRONG for women to wear pants? No.
Learn to think for yourself instead of go along with society's general horribleness.0 -
How dare you objectify men at the gym.. I sure hope that the two people in here get onto you about that.. BODY-POLICING!! BODY-POLICING ;-) Distracting means you must want to have sex with them, because apparently society is uncapable of thinking someone is unattractive without wanting to sleep with them now.
Finding something unattractive is no reason to try to control other people.
Some people find unshaved body hair unattractive, but it's still not right to body-shame people for choosing not to shave.0 -
Another story...
Another friend was spotting her husband on the bench press. Not realizing she had her @$$ about 2 inches from a guys face. NOW THAT IS DISTRACTING!!0 -
wow are you really trying to say that saying someone needs to pull there pants up is body-policing and the same level of racism, homophobia and discrimination.
It's a pretty common known fact that underwear should be "under" your clothes, following general society views and practices isn't body-policing. Body policing would be something like saying don't wear those volleyball shorts because I can't stop from wanting to reach out and grab them. Or you can't wear that as it makes me not be able to control myself. Saying to pull up your pants to fit into a standard that society has set is not body policing. If you want to be a rebel or go against societies grain then you as a whole should be ready for a backlash as you are going against the proverbial grain. You seem like you are grasping to understand the body-policing aspect in society so that shouldn't be hard to understand.
Ex. saying your pants should cover your underwear = general view of society - not going to be body-policing.
Saying you can't wear something period because it's sexual would be body-policing. I never said she couldn't wear the thong, I was asking for her to follow the general view of society. Do you need a chart drawn up.
Or here let me put it in laymans terms.
Society has a set views.. like drugs.. society has a general view that drugs = bad. Someone comes along and decides, no drugs aren't bad I like them. So it's wrong for society to say hey you are a distraction for taking drugs, we don't think you should do that? That is the point.
Had I had a problem with her Yoga pants, that would of been body-policing.. Having a problem with going against societies grain is far from that.
Yes.
Society is wrong and misogynistic, as well as ableist, racist, homophobic, cissexist, etc.
Society once didn't want women to wear pants, but was it actually WRONG for women to wear pants? No.
Learn to think for yourself instead of go along with society's general horribleness.
Yes society is ever changing, its full of ewbs and flows. If you take every injustice against you to heart you are going to have a life full of hate and anger. Some of us choose an more free spirited route. You are way too quick to judge someone. You took what I said, judged it as you saw fit instead of ask more questions. You assumed I wanted to apparently sleep with the lady which was far from the truth. Your whole non-discriminatory view was the most discriminatory of them all. Which the humor in it is that you can't see that.0 -
Yes society is ever changing, its full of ewbs and flows. If you take every injustice against you to heart you are going to have a life full of hate and anger. Some of us choose an more free spirited route. You are way too quick to judge someone. You took what I said, judged it as you saw fit instead of ask more questions. You assumed I wanted to apparently sleep with the lady which was far from the truth. Your whole non-discriminatory view was the most discriminatory of them all. Which the humor in it is that you can't see that.
Fighting injustice is how things get changed.
Poor thing. I'm sure you get discriminated against a lot, being a white straight cisgender male.0 -
I get distracted by some VERY attractive guys at the gym, also by some VERY attractive women. I guess I'm easily distracted...
Side story.. At my gym awhile back. I was working out with my girlfriend. I was wearing workout shorts. After doing a few reps of some leg exercises. My friend kindly tells me you can TOTALLY see up my shorts... Thank God I was wearing a thong and not going commando or the people at the gym would've seen a triple XXX that they weren't expecting. LOL!! :blushing:
How dare you objectify men at the gym.. I sure hope that the two people in here get onto you about that.. BODY-POLICING!! BODY-POLICING ;-) Distracting means you must want to have sex with them, because apparently society is uncapable of thinking someone is unattractive without wanting to sleep with them now.
For the record, I never even thought about having "relations" with the woman in the original topic, I did feel bad for looking but I didn't think I should of had to stop what I was doing just because she wanted to dress a certain way. So by her choosing what to wear (even if was a mistake/accident) it has a right to infringe upon my space and what I was doing. I love the rules that people like to play by. As long as it allows me to do what I want its okay if it completely goes against another persons rights.
How the heck was she "infringing upon your space"? She didn't infringe upon any of your rights by wearing her clothes, even if you could see them. I see plenty of men every day wearing pants low enough that I can see their underwear, but I don't get all upset about it. It doesn't have any bearing on my life, actually. And neither should this woman's underwear.
The fact that it was an important enough part of your day that you have come into a chat room to criticize someone else's choice in clothing, which had no impact on your personal workout other than YOU made the choice to continue staring at it, is concerning enough. I mean, seriously, why was this woman's clothing so important to you? Why did you feel it was your place to make ANY judgement call on what she was wearing?0 -
I sure hope this is Opposite Day.0
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That's nothing.
I had two teenager girls on a bench. (free weight area) One was trying to back extensions or sit ups. I can't remember. But she couldn't keep stable so the other one straddled her thigh area so she wouldn't lift her legs.
I swear every dude in the free weight area stopped, jaw to the floor .,dropped whatever weights they happened to be holding and stared for like 10 seconds. It was a surreal reality fantasy come true and we could not believe it was happening right in front of us. The girls had no idea that they were performing every man's gym wet dream come true.
I just died laughing..lol.0 -
I get distracted by some VERY attractive guys at the gym, also by some VERY attractive women. I guess I'm easily distracted...
Side story.. At my gym awhile back. I was working out with my girlfriend. I was wearing workout shorts. After doing a few reps of some leg exercises. My friend kindly tells me you can TOTALLY see up my shorts... Thank God I was wearing a thong and not going commando or the people at the gym would've seen a triple XXX that they weren't expecting. LOL!! :blushing:
How dare you objectify men at the gym.. I sure hope that the two people in here get onto you about that.. BODY-POLICING!! BODY-POLICING ;-) Distracting means you must want to have sex with them, because apparently society is uncapable of thinking someone is unattractive without wanting to sleep with them now.
For the record, I never even thought about having "relations" with the woman in the original topic, I did feel bad for looking but I didn't think I should of had to stop what I was doing just because she wanted to dress a certain way. So by her choosing what to wear (even if was a mistake/accident) it has a right to infringe upon my space and what I was doing. I love the rules that people like to play by. As long as it allows me to do what I want its okay if it completely goes against another persons rights.
How the heck was she "infringing upon your space"? She didn't infringe upon any of your rights by wearing her clothes, even if you could see them. I see plenty of men every day wearing pants low enough that I can see their underwear, but I don't get all upset about it. It doesn't have any bearing on my life, actually. And neither should this woman's underwear.
The fact that it was an important enough part of your day that you have come into a chat room to criticize someone else's choice in clothing, which had no impact on your personal workout other than YOU made the choice to continue staring at it, is concerning enough. I mean, seriously, why was this woman's clothing so important to you? Why did you feel it was your place to make ANY judgement call on what she was wearing?
A. I was on the mats first, she came and took up right in front of me. There was plenty of space around me. Thus my space was invaded.
B. Her underwear... UNDER wear was showing. UNDER pertains to the part where its under clothes.0 -
"Help, help, I'm being repressed!" said the heterosexual cisgendered white male. "So many butts, so many bodies doing what pleases them, I am offended, I... I'm growing faint... I... can't... I must recharge... bring me... internet..."0
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wow are you really trying to say that saying someone needs to pull there pants up is body-policing and the same level of racism, homophobia and discrimination.
It's a pretty common known fact that underwear should be "under" your clothes, following general society views and practices isn't body-policing. Body policing would be something like saying don't wear those volleyball shorts because I can't stop from wanting to reach out and grab them. Or you can't wear that as it makes me not be able to control myself. Saying to pull up your pants to fit into a standard that society has set is not body policing. If you want to be a rebel or go against societies grain then you as a whole should be ready for a backlash as you are going against the proverbial grain. You seem like you are grasping to understand the body-policing aspect in society so that shouldn't be hard to understand.
Ex. saying your pants should cover your underwear = general view of society - not going to be body-policing.
Saying you can't wear something period because it's sexual would be body-policing. I never said she couldn't wear the thong, I was asking for her to follow the general view of society. Do you need a chart drawn up.
Or here let me put it in laymans terms.
Society has a set views.. like drugs.. society has a general view that drugs = bad. Someone comes along and decides, no drugs aren't bad I like them. So it's wrong for society to say hey you are a distraction for taking drugs, we don't think you should do that? That is the point.
Had I had a problem with her Yoga pants, that would of been body-policing.. Having a problem with going against societies grain is far from that.
Yes.
Society is wrong and misogynistic, as well as ableist, racist, homophobic, cissexist, etc.
Society once didn't want women to wear pants, but was it actually WRONG for women to wear pants? No.
Learn to think for yourself instead of go along with society's general horribleness.
Yes society is ever changing, its full of ewbs and flows. If you take every injustice against you to heart you are going to have a life full of hate and anger. Some of us choose an more free spirited route. You are way too quick to judge someone. You took what I said, judged it as you saw fit instead of ask more questions. You assumed I wanted to apparently sleep with the lady which was far from the truth. Your whole non-discriminatory view was the most discriminatory of them all. Which the humor in it is that you can't see that.
Reading back through this entire thread is an onslaught of objectifying, sexist commentary by almost everyone who participated. Comments about "should have taken pictures" and whatnot are not humorous... it's a sign that the people making those "jokes" view that woman's body and wardrobe as an object to enjoy or to gain pleasure from.
There is no place for humor in a statement that is so dangerously close to the rape-apologetics argument. That argument that states, "She wore clothes that made her irresistible so I couldn't help but rape her" is no different than saying, "She wore a red thong and I couldn't NOT stare at it". You're saying that you are incapable of controlling your own urges and that somehow, this woman is responsible for your self-control. She should know better! How dare she dress all willy-nilly where you might find her body attractive, or be distracted! Why, she should be working out wearing a habit!!
No. It doesn't work that way. If it's that hard to concentrate... move to a different part of the gym. But don't "demand" that "Women learn to pull up their pants".0 -
you gay brah?
haha!0 -
Am I the only woman who thinks working out in a thong would be torture?? Ugh! I'd much rather go commando
Am I the only woman who finds thongs quite comfortable and rarely wear any other type of underwear? :blushing:
Nope, that's all I wear, but only my husband sees them.
Btw, nice profile pic. 0 -
Hey man, you got free natty test booster out of that experience...LOL. There was a completely hot woman in my gym the other day wearing yoga pants and got on the butt blaster...Every single guy completely stopped lifting until she was done, it was hilarious. I had the best view of all though, as I was doing hanging leg raises. These women just don't understand how they can completely de-rail our workouts.0
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