Scale number will move only when good & ready
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Yey!! I did it! Had just 1900. I had more water with my dinner than I usually do and that did the trick. I only had an apple and banana after. I stopped eating by 8 and went to bed at 10 and wasn't hungry.
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Yeah... Sometimes we eat more than what our bodies really need and it's not always because we are hungry. Sometimes it's out of boredom, sometimes we have gotten so used to overeating as its a way of life in your family. I'll make sure I drink water before during and after dinner from now on and that should help.
I saw my exercise physiologist yesterday at work she gave me some tips. She said eat more during the day and you won't feel as hungry at night. She also suggested green tea if I'm still a little hungry at night.0 -
Wow I had 1773 calories yesterday and didn't feel hungry! I couldn't believe it! It must be the extra water I'm thinking. So I walked a total of around 1 hour and a quarter during the day and at night I did my 800 metre sprints and 100 metres sprints. Scale is on the low side again at 64.2.
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@kim55555 yes what did I tell ya, extra water does help stave of hunger!! I've found that to be the case over and over. I was similar yesterday, 1720 cals and around 8pm I felt hunger start to strike, I did a strength workout, drank a large glass of water and the notion to eat went away. I had a cup of tea just before bed and I was done
(I still find the need to stick to 1700-1850 cals during the week as I enjoy extra eating at the weekend far too much to try and hone it in - but this works for me )
Glad the scale is playing ball, this is the week in the month when I see a new lower weight so fingers crossed - although the scales are looking very favourable already, even with bad DOMS which we all know affect that reading.
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RunRutheeRun wrote: »@kim55555 yes what did I tell ya, extra water does help stave of hunger!! I've found that to be the case over and over. I was similar yesterday, 1720 cals and around 8pm I felt hunger start to strike, I did a strength workout, drank a large glass of water and the notion to eat went away. I had a cup of tea just before bed and I was done (I still find the need to stick to 1700-1850 cals during the week as I enjoy extra eating at the weekend far too much to try and hone it in - but this works for me )
Glad the scale is playing ball, this is the week in the month when I see a new lower weight so fingers crossed - although the scales are looking very favourable already, even with bad DOMS which we all know affect that reading.
You're doing great!
Thanks. Yeah still I'm gobsmacked!! Haha who would've thought! Wish I'd known sooner but better late than never!
I'm looking forward to losing at a decent pace. Hopefully around 1/2 a kg per week loss to begin with which what will be a 15- 20 % defecit.
Ah yes, green tea, good option! Ill take some to work.
Yeah I might follow your lead when I get closer to goal and eat around 1800 each weekday and then if I'm going out 1 night i can eat 23 or even 2500 calories and the calorie average will all even out. I think you've got it down pat.
I'm starting to think that my tdee is really not as high as I first thought. I think it's around the 2300. Ive realised we humans really don't need all that much to sustain us, to maintain our functions! In the past I've been the product of a family of over eaters and when I say over eaters I don't mean huge amounts of food or anything just a few extra snacks. I think my dad who grew up in tough times enjoys his food and over eats because he is subconsciously concerned there won't be enough food to go around. Its in grained in him! He eats all the time. Always walking into the kitchen lol. He had a gastric sleeve. Lost 3/4 of what he needed to (he was around 30 kg overweight) but put back some weight. I'm surprised he's not put it all back on yet. He has to be careful though because he is heading that way. Because he has a small stomach he can only eat small amounts at a time so he eats like every alf hour, so silly. I've counted when I visit haha.
I hard boiled some eggs whilst eating my inner thinking I'd enjoy a nice hot one after but I didn't end up eating it as I was satisfied. In the past I would have eaten one but I didn't this time as the water did the trick, all I had the rest of the night was a kiwi fruit and probably didn't even need that but felt like the taste.
Cool hope you see a nice low number
Mine should drop in a few days again I'm thinking.
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yeah our family are fairly big eaters as well, alot of home made bread and lovely baking always on hand and I'm no better, I'm turning into my mum as I now bake every week too lol - but I don't EAT what I bake, oh I will sample a little bit of something but I bake as a treat for when my boys visit for dinner on the weekends - I like them to come home to good home cooked food and a treat for afters.
It has taken time for me to be able to stop myself eating what I make, but the calories are just not worth it. I find if I take a sample of it then thats all I want.
Wont your dad need to watch with his gastric band that he doesn't now overeat??
Eating can be such a habit and it takes years to change our habits overall but we'll just keeping working on them a day at a time.
Green tea is very pleasant to drink and when the weathers cooler, its easier to drink than ice cold water. There is caffeine in it though so thats worth a watching. I also like Camomile or Jasmine teas, even some fruit ones are very nice.
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Wooohooo. I'm back into the 63's! I'm 63.5 today. It's day 2 of my period too which from memory I'm usually heavier at this time of the month. So that's a loss of 1/2 a kg in 7 days. So far I've averaged 1821 calories for the week. 0
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RunRutheeRun wrote: »yeah our family are fairly big eaters as well, alot of home made bread and lovely baking always on hand and I'm no better, I'm turning into my mum as I now bake every week too lol - but I don't EAT what I bake, oh I will sample a little bit of something but I bake as a treat for when my boys visit for dinner on the weekends - I like them to come home to good home cooked food and a treat for afters.
It has taken time for me to be able to stop myself eating what I make, but the calories are just not worth it. I find if I take a sample of it then thats all I want.
Wont your dad need to watch with his gastric band that he doesn't now overeat??
Eating can be such a habit and it takes years to change our habits overall but we'll just keeping working on them a day at a time.
Green tea is very pleasant to drink and when the weathers cooler, its easier to drink than ice cold water. There is caffeine in it though so thats worth a watching. I also like Camomile or Jasmine teas, even some fruit ones are very nice.
Have a lovely day
Re:baking Wow your strong! I don't think I could pull that off, just a bit of sampling. I guess we all have our strengths and weaknesses hey.
Yeah that's what my dad "should" be doing but he doesn't. He overeats all the time.
Yeah that's for sure! Eating is an ingrained habit. I have to be careful if I do go for dinner and stay a few hours after to not join in with the others with their after dinner snacking.
Mmmmm yum on my way home I was so excited to see all the summer fruits out. I bought some strawberries, mango, locuts, plums. I was going to buy some apricots but I thought I already had enough stuff. I polished off the whole mango it was so yummy. 250 calories haha. I weighed it. 600 gram minus the skin and pip is 400 grams. I didn't realise it would be that many calories but was worth it... Was delicious.
Have a great weekend! I'm taking my bike in for a service today. On Wednesday there's a ride to work day event on. Thousands from Perth go. I think I'll start including a ride or two a week to work. On the opposite days that I'll be running. It's about a 45 min ride from home. I'll have to be careful though not to do too much and burn myself out
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Morning @Kim55555 I guess I am strong, wasn't always like that either but habits change and I have to watch how much I eat, always will have to be careful so I make the best of it.
I'm glad you're enjoying all that lovely fruit.
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So I've decided to go by a 6 weekly trend rather than a 5 weekly trend. I've lost just over 3/4 of a kg in the past 6 weeks. 800 grams.
My pattern is I lose some scale weight & then a little more a few days later or a week later. It happens all in the space of 1 week!
Then the scale trends upwards. Feb 5 was day 1 of my last period and I was at my upper range for approx 1 and a 1/2 weeks. Feb 15 was the day I got to my new low of 57.9 kg.
I should get my next period around about March 5 and a few days leading up to it and the week during my period my scale will be at its highest again! Im hoping my high scale weight (will be at a new low) in the 59's next time. Hoping not to see it in the 60's.
Then approx 1 & 1/2 to 2 weeks after day 1 of my period I shall again see the low end of my scale range and hopefully a new low scale weight. Last time it took 10 days to see the new number of 57.9 kg after day 1 of my period was 60.0 kg.
I have to keep reminding myself that my body will only ever lose the weight in the space of one week and that I need to look at the 6 weekly pattern oh and also not to freak out every time my body stays in the high end of the range due to the time of the month.
So I will see my lowest weight again in the middle of march about 1 and a half weeks after day 1 of my period.
Day 5 now. I've been 63.5 - 64.2 since October 9. Going by my above notes my scale will go down in approx 5-10 days!
I'm doing well since i started drinking more water with my dinner.
Oct 5 - Oct 11 - 1860 weekly average
I'm enjoying my running. I did a timed 400 metre sprints & nearly made myself throw up haha. Judging by my times I'll be fitter than I was for te start of pre season training. Ran Three 400 metre sprints (with 1 min rest in between) in 7 min 39 sec. My record last season was 6 min 53. My goal is to get it to 6 min 30 and then maybe lower. Anyway I'm keeping my exercise/fitness goals separate to my calorie needs. Although it is handy to get that extra calorie burn on the days I run (on top of my walking o and from work) my running doesn't impact the amount of food and my behaviour towards food & exercise. Before around a couple of years ago I would long distance bike with the intention of burning as many calories as possible, and also to get fit but now I do my running with the main intention of getting fit. 1800-1900 seems to be enough for me which is great.
That's cool @RunRutheeRun Ruthee and I need to remind myself constantly I have a job to do. Not to turn to food for comfort/entertainment and to 90 % of time use it just to fuel my performance and life & I should be fine. When I get close to around 57 if there are events coming up every now and then I'll eat a little over but try hard 90 % of the time to stay under a 2300 average and my weight will be stable. I look at it this way we don't really have other options. It's either maintain or let ourselves go and get fat lol 0 -
So I've decided to go by a 6 weekly trend rather than a 5 weekly trend. I've lost just over 3/4 of a kg in the past 6 weeks. 800 grams.
My pattern is I lose some scale weight & then a little more a few days later or a week later. It happens all in the space of 1 week!
Then the scale trends upwards. Feb 5 was day 1 of my last period and I was at my upper range for approx 1 and a 1/2 weeks. Feb 15 was the day I got to my new low of 57.9 kg.
I should get my next period around about March 5 and a few days leading up to it and the week during my period my scale will be at its highest again! Im hoping my high scale weight (will be at a new low) in the 59's next time. Hoping not to see it in the 60's.
Then approx 1 & 1/2 to 2 weeks after day 1 of my period I shall again see the low end of my scale range and hopefully a new low scale weight. Last time it took 10 days to see the new number of 57.9 kg after day 1 of my period was 60.0 kg.
I have to keep reminding myself that my body will only ever lose the weight in the space of one week and that I need to look at the 6 weekly pattern oh and also not to freak out every time my body stays in the high end of the range due to the time of the month.
So I will see my lowest weight again in the middle of march about 1 and a half weeks after day 1 of my period.
Great idea to do a 6 week trend. I'm going to do that. I'm also going to track my weightloss as it relates to my period. Thanks for the tip!0 -
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Day 5 now. I've been 63.5 - 64.2 since October 9. Going by my above notes my scale will go down in approx 5-10 days!
I'm doing well since i started drinking more water with my dinner.
Oct 5 - Oct 11 - 1860 weekly average
I'm enjoying my running. I did a timed 400 metre sprints & nearly made myself throw up haha. Judging by my times I'll be fitter than I was for te start of pre season training. Ran Three 400 metre sprints (with 1 min rest in between) in 7 min 39 sec. My record last season was 6 min 53. My goal is to get it to 6 min 30 and then maybe lower. Anyway I'm keeping my exercise/fitness goals separate to my calorie needs. Although it is handy to get that extra calorie burn on the days I run (on top of my walking o and from work) my running doesn't impact the amount of food and my behaviour towards food & exercise. Before around a couple of years ago I would long distance bike with the intention of burning as many calories as possible, and also to get fit but now I do my running with the main intention of getting fit. 1800-1900 seems to be enough for me which is great.
That's cool @RunRutheeRun Ruthee and I need to remind myself constantly I have a job to do. Not to turn to food for comfort/entertainment and to 90 % of time use it just to fuel my performance and life & I should be fine. When I get close to around 57 if there are events coming up every now and then I'll eat a little over but try hard 90 % of the time to stay under a 2300 average and my weight will be stable. I look at it this way we don't really have other options. It's either maintain or let ourselves go and get fat lol
@kim55555 thats the attitude!! it takes time to rethink our habits/behaviour. There will always be times when we can't help but go over on cals, and thats what lifes about - enjoying family and food...but if we sort the normal days out then the splurge days wont do any harm whatsoever. Fuelling the body is a sound plan. We wont get fat, we enjoy being slim too much plus we have to look at the bigger picture, its better for our bodies as we get older if we are healthier/fitter.
I can see your overall attitude is changing and for the better, so keep up the good work
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luvwords1996 wrote: »Great idea to do a 6 week trend. I'm going to do that. I'm also going to track my weightloss as it relates to my period. Thanks for the tip!
Your welcome! Yep, it will help to keep you sane!
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RunRutheeRun wrote: »@kim55555 thats the attitude!! it takes time to rethink our habits/behaviour. There will always be times when we can't help but go over on cals, and thats what lifes about - enjoying family and food...but if we sort the normal days out then the splurge days wont do any harm whatsoever. Fuelling the body is a sound plan. We wont get fat, we enjoy being slim too much plus we have to look at the bigger picture, its better for our bodies as we get older if we are healthier/fitter.
I can see your overall attitude is changing and for the better, so keep up the good work
Thanks!
yeah some days and weeks I eat more than others like for instance this week I averaged 1995 calories which was more than I'd planned/wanted (my goal is 1800) but maybe my body needed more. The important thing is I still had what was a 10-15 % defecit eating that amount. It's a win for me to stay under 2000.
As long as there is a downward trend on the scale I'm happy. I know it is a bit slow going but I'm at peace with it. I lost another 300 grams the other day. My new low is 63.2 kg now. I have 6 more to go. Once I hit 60 my body is looking pretty good and I'll be fitting into most of my clothes again.
@RunRutheeRun How is the scale going for you?
Talking about habits/behaviours. When I was over at mum and dads for dinner I had some corned beef. I was just about to put it away in the fridge after cutting up some veggies to go with it and mum asked if that was enough meat for me. I said yeah, she then started cutting some more meat, which I thought she was cutting for me but she cut some for herself. She'd already eaten dinner half an hour earlier, I don't think she was hungry because I noticed she was eating 2 slices of toast as a snack around 5.30 when I was running out the door to take the dog for a walk. When I got back half an hour later she was eating dinner. So out of habit/entertainment or just the fact that the meat was on the counter led her to eat it. Im thinking if the meat was already in the fridge when she walked past the kitchen she wouldn't have eaten it. I'm not judging her just reminding myself of present/future behaviours I need to be mindful of so I don't partake in uneccary snacking. I need to remain aware!
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@Kim55555 wtg on seeing the scale come down again
I'm doing great I'm consistently seeing 133lbs /60kg which is goal. ..still want to push to see 130 but I don't mind how long it takes. My average is around 1900 which is 10%deficit . I'm seeing inch loss on my waist and tummy from the lifting 0 -
RunRutheeRun wrote: »@Kim55555 wtg on seeing the scale come down again
I'm doing great I'm consistently seeing 133lbs /60kg which is goal. ..still want to push to see 130 but I don't mind how long it takes. My average is around 1900 which is 10%deficit . I'm seeing inch loss on my waist and tummy from the lifting
Cool! Looks like the recomp is working!! That's awesome!! Good job!!0 -
RunRutheeRun wrote: »@Kim55555 wtg on seeing the scale come down again
I'm doing great I'm consistently seeing 133lbs /60kg which is goal. ..still want to push to see 130 but I don't mind how long it takes. My average is around 1900 which is 10%deficit . I'm seeing inch loss on my waist and tummy from the lifting
Cool! Looks like the recomp is working!! That's awesome!! Good job!!0 -
Cool! Looks like the recomp is working!! That's awesome!! Good job!!0
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Lol I sent that message from my phone but it didn't work, lost most of the reply so I'm sending from my iPad
Cool! Looks like the recomp is working!! That's awesome!! Good job!!0 -
Arrghh I'll try again
Cool! Looks like the recomp is working!! That's awesome!! Good job!!0 -
Cool! Looks like the recomp is working!! That's awesome!! Good job!!0
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If you haven't been doing it now could be a good time to take photos in a gym top or bikini. I prefer gym top. It's a good way to keep you motivated and encouraged if the scale doesn't move.0
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Stupid &@;$:&;$ myfitness pal grrr0
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Either stupid mfp or stupid phone
I am taking pics of course 0 -
Cool! can't wait to see your progression! 0
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I lost 200 grams this week eating 2119 gross calories I'm 63.0 now
Judging by my loss I'm thinking I must have been eating at around a 5 % defecit.
I was stuck on 63.5 for quite a few days and wondered when the blasted scale would move! haha. I haven't seen a 64 point something in a couple of weeks so I think my new range is 63 - 63.5 now.
I'm still trying to hit 1900 a week. I'd love to be able to lose 1/2 kg a week but as long as I'm on a downward trend that is the main thing and 200 grams I'll take.
I did an 8 sec PB last night in my timed 400 metre sprints. It took 7min 31 sec so I'm focussing on running goals and my weight lifting! Im fitting into some more of my clothes too.0 -
Fantastic time for your sprint
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This is what I wrote in another thread which I thought I'd share, plus it's handy to keep my thoughts in my thread/journal I created.
Hi
From 2010-2012 I lost 33 kg. I'm 5'2 and got down to 57 kg. I look good at 57, even at 60 as I have some muscle.
The last 2 winters I put back on 9 kg but each spring/summer I got back to 57 in the space of 7 months.
This time around I've been recomping eating what I think has been somewhere around a 5 % defecit. SW was 66kg
I'm 8 weeks in and for the past month my scale has fluctuated between 63 kg - 64.4 kg. The scale has pretty much stayed about the same but I have lost fat. I tried my black australian size 8 skirt on a month ago and could not even do the zipper up at all. I tried it on a couple of days ago and I was amazed! I was able to zip it all the way up!! It's still tight though but I'm working on it. I'll try it on again in another month and see how it fits. I'm hoping to fit into it again in around maybe 8-10 weeks time I'm not sure. Im so glad I tried it on that morning as I was down because the scale read 64.4kg.
A bit of background. I lift heavy twice a week. I have a running program I follow 3 times a week (sprints and intervals anywhere from 100 metres - 1.2 km) I run because im getting fit for my sport. Preason starts in January. My times have improved and my performance in the weight room has improved. I'm getting stronger and lifting heavier. I also walk to and from work 4 days a week.
I'm interested in following this recomp through until I get to the same size as I was when I was 57 kg. When I got to 57 I was lifting heavy and running too. I started eating at a moderate defecit of between 10-20% around 1800-1900 calories the first couple of months, then as I lost the weight rather than decreasing my calories further like a lot of people do I increased my calories and defecit got smaller. The last 1-2 months I was eating between 0-10 % defecit.
But I'm also keen to drop my calories down and eat around 10 - 20 % defecit to lose a little quicker.
Here are my gross calorie amounts I ate to achieve the loss I've had
Week 1 - 2045
Week 2 - 1983
Week 3 - 2058
Week 4 - 2187
Week 5 - 1860
Week 6 - 1985
Week 7 - 2112
My goal has been to eat 1900 calories.
In the last couple of days I've tweaked a few things in my diet to try to stay under 2000 calories so I'll see how I go.
It's exciting that I have been able to do that skirt up now and the scale hasn't moved! So that's how I know I've progressed. I'm taking photos every 2 months this time around.
Actually as long as I keep losing fat and inches and my performance in the weight room and on the track improves I'm fine if it takes anywhere between 6-12 months to get back to 57 kg. And maybe this time 59 kg would be more realistic to maintain. The main reason I want to get bak to 57 is because its the number I got to twice before in the last 5 years & it would mean less impact on my joints being at a lighter scale weight. However the benefits of being 59 kg means I'd be able to eat a bit more and it's a scale weight I could more easily maintain. I got to 57 & then found I hovered mostly in the 59's so I didn't stay 57 for long.
Edited to add:
When I eventually get to 60 kg I am going to do a never ending 0-5 % recomp. I don't like the word maintenance. I'll try hard to have that little bit of a defecit 90 % of the time and I should be fine.
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So I'm keen to recomp at 0-5% but I'm also keen to lose eating at a 5-15% defecit too. I've done well the last couple of days eating close to 1900. I'll try to keep it going. As long as this amount of food doesn't impact on my hunger and my fitness & weights performance then I'll stick to the 5-15% defecit. If I feel I need to eat more at times then I'll eat more.
Back when I lost the 33 kg I'd go through periods of eating at a moderate defecit and the scale as well as inches would move and then I'd go through weeks/months where I'd eat around 0-5% range calorie cycling between 1800-2300 and the scale would stop moving but I would still be getting thinner leaning out due to my heavy lifting. It took 12 months to lose the last 3 kg from what I can remember!
I think I'd like to get to at least 60 kg first though before starting to eat at a 5% recomp amount but I'll play it by ear because I'm doing so well with my running and my lifting I need to think about what my highest priority is.
Last night I did 3 reps of 800 metres in around the same time as I did it a month ago however this time I wasn't even trying to sprint it. The wonderful news is and I'm glad I keep notes. I really had to exert myself to run each 800 in 4 mins 20 a month ago whereas last night it felt a lot easier. I didn't feel like doing an all out sprint either so I thought I'd just coast through it as my energy was down a bit. I'd twinged my back a little a few days earlier in the weight room and had a couple of rest days prior so I didn't want to push it.
Be careful when putting 20 kg plates back down on a low rung. Someone had left weights on the machine and when i went to put the 20 kg plate away i felt a twinge. Oh and another lesson I learned you need to gradually and slowly increase your barbell squat weight as your back and rest of your body might not be ready just yet to lift heavier even though your legs are capable. That's how I twinged my back the first time. I took a couple of weeks off from the leg weights and slowly eased back into it. This was around 6 weeks ago. So I had this other setback on Wednesday but my back is feeling good again and I'll be ack into the weights later this arvo. 0
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