Magic Mike vs A Gentleman's Club
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However a little part of me will say....that it's nice to know my guy is thinking of me while we are "Cleaning the Fish Tank" rather than the lady he saw an hour ago walking down the street.
for the sake of womankind everywhere, please do not refer to getting some action with your man as "cleaning the fish tank" good GOD that is a horrifying euphemism.0 -
for the sake of womankind everywhere, please do not refer to getting some action with your man as "cleaning the fish tank" good GOD that is a horrifying euphemism.
eww....I've never heard that, but um, I think I'm glad. Yeah, don't use that. Gross. :sick:0 -
I'm seeing a lot of insecurity in this thread.
I don’t know why people have to rag on those who are against their husbands going to strip clubs as being insecure. To me it is very illogical. Many Americans were raised in pretty traditional homes, girls were taught that they would be a mommy and their husbands would only have eyes for them. Do most Americans raise their daughters to think stripping is a good job? When high school is over and they are looking for college funds do we present stripping to our own daughters as a viable option for being able to afford an education. If most American women are raised in an idea that showing all of your body to anyone and everyone is not acceptable, why would most of them all of a sudden be okay with this as adults in their marriage?
Me personally I have taken my husband to strip clubs. Not a big deal for me, but I don’t think everyone who thinks differently than me is some sort of insecure twit. Some of us choose to hold onto all of the values instilled in us when we were growing up. Some of us let go of some of those values. Some of us, never had those values. Everyone is different and that is okay.0 -
I think guys are just wanting an excuse to go to the strip club....not that there is anything wrong with that. There are hardly any movies with guys stripping but every other movie out has some form of female nudity (boobs and such).... I don't see what the big deal is....If my boyfriend wanted to go to a strip club I'd have no problem with it, I'd even go with him but I do know that nobody is gonna tell me that I can't see it lol0
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I would go to the Gentleman's Club with my man. In fact I've done it before, no big deal. But I will admit, I would rather watch the male review (ahem) with my girls!0
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I wish there were MORE "eyecandy" movies geared towards women. Plot shmot, I wanna see toned, half naked men gyrating!
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I'm seeing a lot of insecurity in this thread.
I don’t know why people have to rag on those who are against their husbands going to strip clubs as being insecure. To me it is very illogical. Many Americans were raised in pretty traditional homes, girls were taught that they would be a mommy and their husbands would only have eyes for them. Do most Americans raise their daughters to think stripping is a good job? When high school is over and they are looking for college funds do we present stripping to our own daughters as a viable option for being able to afford an education. If most American women are raised in an idea that showing all of your body to anyone and everyone is not acceptable, why would most of them all of a sudden be okay with this as adults in their marriage?
Me personally I have taken my husband to strip clubs. Not a big deal for me, but I don’t think everyone who thinks differently than me is some sort of insecure twit. Some of us choose to hold onto all of the values instilled in us when we were growing up. Some of us let go of some of those values. Some of us, never had those values. Everyone is different and that is okay.
Being raised to be insecure doesn't make you any less insecure. Maybe less to blame for it.0 -
Some people's answers are so ridiculous. How is watching but not touching Channing Tatum as he strips in the movie any different than watching some girl strip and not touching at a strip club? Either way, you get turned on and go home to your significant other. If you're afraid your significant other is going to stray from going to a movie or a strip club, you probably don't have enough self esteem or trust in your companion and you need to grow up or get out of that relationship. People who have said the difference is that one body is "warm" "real" "live" etc... what exactly does that matter? They're real, so you're horny. Ladies, tell me you didn't get horny watching Channing Tatum strip? How about when you read "50 Shades of Grey"? I feel like a lot of times women are very hypocritical about sexuality. Let a man (and woman) live! As long as there are no bad intentions or actions and it's all in good fun, who really cares?!0
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the movie had a plot. minus the stripping and hot actors. there was actually a point to the story. so let's unwad our panties and relax.....
It really did have a plot which I wasn't expecting. What I expected was to go and drool a little over the gorgeous males dancing but that's neither here nor there.
I don't see a difference whether it's a male strip club or a female strip club. My husband gave me a lot of crap because I went to see this, and over the fact that me and a few girl friends were talking about catching the Thunder from Down Under show sometime, stating he was married and took it seriously.
Ok.. so go to a show, look, don't touch and come home. It wouldn't bother me.
and for those that like to say all those shows do is offer temptation.. well - sure, I guess it does.. but I'm sorry - if I'm looking for "temptation", I don't need to go to a male revue show to find it.0 -
YOU CAN'T INTERACT WITH A MOVIE SCREEN. aT STRIP CLUBS, THE DANCERS ARE SUPPOSED TO INTERACT WITH THE MEN THERE. THERE MAY NOT BE ANY TOUCHING, BUT THERE IS A WHOLE LOT OF INTERACTION.
(SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS - I'M NOT YEALLING, JUST LAZY!! lol)0 -
I just can't wait for the hype around this movie to disappear. It's sad that eyecandy movies like this are getting so much attention when other better movies are ignored because they may not have "hot actors." Doesn't anyone care about the plot in a film anymore?
I care a lot about the plot, and this movie just didn't have it. The naked butts were great to look at, and I love the dancing. But storyline, nope.0 -
I'm seeing a lot of insecurity in this thread.
I don’t know why people have to rag on those who are against their husbands going to strip clubs as being insecure. To me it is very illogical. Many Americans were raised in pretty traditional homes, girls were taught that they would be a mommy and their husbands would only have eyes for them. Do most Americans raise their daughters to think stripping is a good job? When high school is over and they are looking for college funds do we present stripping to our own daughters as a viable option for being able to afford an education. If most American women are raised in an idea that showing all of your body to anyone and everyone is not acceptable, why would most of them all of a sudden be okay with this as adults in their marriage?
Me personally I have taken my husband to strip clubs. Not a big deal for me, but I don’t think everyone who thinks differently than me is some sort of insecure twit. Some of us choose to hold onto all of the values instilled in us when we were growing up. Some of us let go of some of those values. Some of us, never had those values. Everyone is different and that is okay.
Wasnt ragging at at all. Everyones relationship and situation is diffrent. If you have a problem with your wife/husband etc. going to strip club then they need to respect that reagrdless of what goes on, regardless if it's a movie or not. You shouldnt assume things.0 -
I'm seeing a lot of insecurity in this thread.
I don’t know why people have to rag on those who are against their husbands going to strip clubs as being insecure. To me it is very illogical. Many Americans were raised in pretty traditional homes, girls were taught that they would be a mommy and their husbands would only have eyes for them. Do most Americans raise their daughters to think stripping is a good job? When high school is over and they are looking for college funds do we present stripping to our own daughters as a viable option for being able to afford an education. If most American women are raised in an idea that showing all of your body to anyone and everyone is not acceptable, why would most of them all of a sudden be okay with this as adults in their marriage?
Me personally I have taken my husband to strip clubs. Not a big deal for me, but I don’t think everyone who thinks differently than me is some sort of insecure twit. Some of us choose to hold onto all of the values instilled in us when we were growing up. Some of us let go of some of those values. Some of us, never had those values. Everyone is different and that is okay.
Being raised to be insecure doesn't make you any less insecure. Maybe less to blame for it.
Is that being raised to be insecure though? Just because you don't agree with those values doesn't mean its an insecurity issue. Some people simply think it is wrong.0 -
I'm seeing a lot of insecurity in this thread.
I don’t know why people have to rag on those who are against their husbands going to strip clubs as being insecure. To me it is very illogical. Many Americans were raised in pretty traditional homes, girls were taught that they would be a mommy and their husbands would only have eyes for them. Do most Americans raise their daughters to think stripping is a good job? When high school is over and they are looking for college funds do we present stripping to our own daughters as a viable option for being able to afford an education. If most American women are raised in an idea that showing all of your body to anyone and everyone is not acceptable, why would most of them all of a sudden be okay with this as adults in their marriage?
Me personally I have taken my husband to strip clubs. Not a big deal for me, but I don’t think everyone who thinks differently than me is some sort of insecure twit. Some of us choose to hold onto all of the values instilled in us when we were growing up. Some of us let go of some of those values. Some of us, never had those values. Everyone is different and that is okay.
Wasnt ragging at at all. Everyones relationship and situation is diffrent. If you have a problem with your wife/husband etc. going to strip club then they need to respect that reagrdless of what goes on, regardless if it's a movie or not. You shouldnt assume things.
I don't have an issue with strip clubs. I do take issue with whenever this subject is brought up on these boards that people get insulting to women who do not care for strip clubs.0 -
Some people's answers are so ridiculous. How is watching but not touching Channing Tatum as he strips in the movie any different than watching some girl strip and not touching at a strip club? Either way, you get turned on and go home to your significant other. If you're afraid your significant other is going to stray from going to a movie or a strip club, you probably don't have enough self esteem or trust in your companion and you need to grow up or get out of that relationship. People who have said the difference is that one body is "warm" "real" "live" etc... what exactly does that matter? They're real, so you're horny. Ladies, tell me you didn't get horny watching Channing Tatum strip? How about when you read "50 Shades of Grey"? I feel like a lot of times women are very hypocritical about sexuality. Let a man (and woman) live! As long as there are no bad intentions or actions and it's all in good fun, who really cares?!
This is what I was saying.... If its good for the goose, why not the gander?
And for the record I'm doing a direct comparison. You dont have to interact with the dancers or pay for extra dances or any of those things... Its been many years since I have even been in one. so this was strictly for an interesting conversation. Its clearly obvious the women are OK with their little piece of fun but not when the same thing comes around for guys....but this is exactly as I expected.0 -
Most clubs may have no touching rules, but (1) that is customer to dancer, the dancer can often touch the customer, and (2) rules aren't always followed. (Yes, I've been to "gentleman's" clubs.) Assuming the person in question didn't get lap dances, and didn't get touched sitting at the stage, I'd consider it the rough equivalent.0
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That said, I could use a few singles right now. Maybe I should set up a paypal account on MFP.
Funny, I was having the same thought, although you seem to have a nicer body than I do.0 -
Some people's answers are so ridiculous. How is watching but not touching Channing Tatum as he strips in the movie any different than watching some girl strip and not touching at a strip club? Either way, you get turned on and go home to your significant other. If you're afraid your significant other is going to stray from going to a movie or a strip club, you probably don't have enough self esteem or trust in your companion and you need to grow up or get out of that relationship. People who have said the difference is that one body is "warm" "real" "live" etc... what exactly does that matter? They're real, so you're horny. Ladies, tell me you didn't get horny watching Channing Tatum strip? How about when you read "50 Shades of Grey"? I feel like a lot of times women are very hypocritical about sexuality. Let a man (and woman) live! As long as there are no bad intentions or actions and it's all in good fun, who really cares?!
This is what I was saying.... If its good for the goose, why not the gander?
And for the record I'm doing a direct comparison. You dont have to interact with the dancers or pay for extra dances or any of those things... Its been many years since I have even been in one. so this was strictly for an interesting conversation. Its clearly obvious the women are OK with their little piece of fun but not when the same thing comes around for guys....but this is exactly as I expected.
well, one difference I see is that your wife can't go to the strip club alone. Generally, there's a no unescorted woman rule... meaning that the, uh, experience may vary.
where the film is the same regardless of who goes there. They don't check your gender at the door now, do they??
another difference, the girls at your local strip club live in your town.... so that's also a little weird. It's not whever he is from wahtever movie that is. It's the girl who also takes her kid to the same school as yours...or the girl who makes your coffee in the morning...
other than that,
I don't care. I think both are stupid as all holy hell.0 -
my personal thought is men who go to "gentlemen's clubs" and think their wives should be ok with it shoudl be ok with their wives working at a gentlemen's club when he's not around.0
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Many years ago in New Orleans far away from family and friends as well as our stellar reputations, my wife and I went to a co-ed strip club with both male and female "dancers". We were both young - mid-20's.
We talked about it before going and knew what we were getting into.
All I will say is we had a great time and fulfilled some interesting fantasies. And though neither of us have any regrets, we both agreed afterward to never do anything like it again.
We still laugh about it from time to time.
But we will not be seeing Magic Mike or Magic Connie or anything of the sort.
Been there - done that :drinker:
It was fun then but quite boring and uninteresting today.
But you folks enjoy.....0 -
This is what I was saying.... If its good for the goose, why not the gander?
And for the record I'm doing a direct comparison. You dont have to interact with the dancers or pay for extra dances or any of those things... Its been many years since I have even been in one. so this was strictly for an interesting conversation. Its clearly obvious the women are OK with their little piece of fun but not when the same thing comes around for guys....but this is exactly as I expected.
Bad generalization is bad. SOME of the responses were in favor, others weren't.
By your argument, talking to someone on the phone or texting them is identical to actually talking to that person directly. The change in medium does have a real impact on the experience. A movie is more anonymous, the target audience is massive. A strip show, even in a packed club, is much more individual, the attention is much more targetted even if you don't get a dance or talk to the person. Body language and interaction, even minor, matters. The question is how big a deal is it. I don't think it's THAT big of a deal, but some people certainly would (same way some people feel much more strongly about talking in person than over the phone).
And men can be just as bad. Let a man (or woman) that you aren't in a relationship live, but if you are in one you need to communicate your needs and ground rules and find out your partner's.I feel like a lot of times women are very hypocritical about sexuality. Let a man (and woman) live! As long as there are no bad intentions or actions and it's all in good fun, who really cares?!0 -
my personal thought is men who go to "gentlemen's clubs" and think their wives should be ok with it shoudl be ok with their wives working at a gentlemen's club when he's not around.
And if they aren't but are ok with her going to a revue? Changing the context changes the rules. It doesn't matter what they 'should' and 'shouldn't' be ok with, it matters what they are ok with and what they can become comfortable with.0 -
my personal thought is men who go to "gentlemen's clubs" and think their wives should be ok with it shoudl be ok with their wives working at a gentlemen's club when he's not around.
And if they aren't but are ok with her going to a revue? Changing the context changes the rules. It doesn't matter what they 'should' and 'shouldn't' be ok with, it matters what they are ok with and what they can become comfortable with.
Duh.0 -
my personal thought is men who go to "gentlemen's clubs" and think their wives should be ok with it shoudl be ok with their wives working at a gentlemen's club when he's not around.
And if they aren't but are ok with her going to a revue? Changing the context changes the rules. It doesn't matter what they 'should' and 'shouldn't' be ok with, it matters what they are ok with and what they can become comfortable with.
Duh.
If it's so obvious why didn't you phrase it that way then? Being the object of lust that people pay to see is very different than being the one doing the paying. The latter is the more controlled environment.0 -
my personal thought is men who go to "gentlemen's clubs" and think their wives should be ok with it shoudl be ok with their wives working at a gentlemen's club when he's not around.
And if they aren't but are ok with her going to a revue? Changing the context changes the rules. It doesn't matter what they 'should' and 'shouldn't' be ok with, it matters what they are ok with and what they can become comfortable with.
Duh.
If it's so obvious why didn't you phrase it that way then? Being the object of lust that people pay to see is very different than being the one doing the paying. The latter is the more controlled environment.
i think the "duh" was obviously everyone in their own relationship should do what they are comfortable with. OP was asking if people think going to see magic mike is the same as going ot a strip club. To me, it is not. A husband going ot a strip club to me is the same as a wife working at a strip club,. In fact, I think the wife working is better in terms of being fair to the relationship because she is bringing home hard earned money to the family, while the husband is just spending it. If the husband takes issue with wife working at strip club, personally, I don't think he should be going there. That's my two cents. IF it's good for the goose (It being strip clubs) it should be good for the gande, or vice versa (i admit, i don't remember which one is male and which one is female)>0 -
i think the "duh" was obviously everyone in their own relationship should do what they are comfortable with. OP was asking if people think going to see magic mike is the same as going ot a strip club. To me, it is not. A husband going ot a strip club to me is the same as a wife working at a strip club,. In fact, I think the wife working is better in terms of being fair to the relationship because she is bringing home hard earned money to the family, while the husband is just spending it. If the husband takes issue with wife working at strip club, personally, I don't think he should be going there. That's my two cents. IF it's good for the goose (It being strip clubs) it should be good for the gander.
Point noted, I misunderstood what you were referencing, I thought you were referencing the male revue option. Regardless of the money going out vs coming in, being the object of desire is wholly different than paying to see a performance. Your two sides ARE different. What is valid would be to argue that the husband should be ok with his wife going to a revue, NOT that he should be ok with her becoming a stripper. Him being ok with her becoming a stripper would be more in line with her being ok with him becoming a stripper as well. They are entirely different beasts.0 -
my personal thought is men who go to "gentlemen's clubs" and think their wives should be ok with it shoudl be ok with their wives working at a gentlemen's club when he's not around.
And if they aren't but are ok with her going to a revue? Changing the context changes the rules. It doesn't matter what they 'should' and 'shouldn't' be ok with, it matters what they are ok with and what they can become comfortable with.
Duh.
If it's so obvious why didn't you phrase it that way then? Being the object of lust that people pay to see is very different than being the one doing the paying. The latter is the more controlled environment.
i think the "duh" was obviously everyone in their own relationship should do what they are comfortable with. OP was asking if people think going to see magic mike is the same as going ot a strip club. To me, it is not. A husband going ot a strip club to me is the same as a wife working at a strip club,. In fact, I think the wife working is better in terms of being fair to the relationship because she is bringing home hard earned money to the family, while the husband is just spending it. If the husband takes issue with wife working at strip club, personally, I don't think he should be going there. That's my two cents. IF it's good for the goose (It being strip clubs) it should be good for the gande, or vice versa (i admit, i don't remember which one is male and which one is female)>
Another great and very fair comparison.
BTW OP from what I have read this movie doesn't even show full frontal nudity. So its even less of an even comparison than previously assumed. So now what you're comparing is someone IRL putting their T&A in your face, inches away. And seeing some celeb butt 30 feet away on a big screen. lol So while I (again) don't personally have an issue with strip clubs, there is zero comparison imo.0 -
yeah i guess it's similar. Not the same. There are plenty of movies out there full of half naked (and all the way naked) women.....0
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i think the "duh" was obviously everyone in their own relationship should do what they are comfortable with. OP was asking if people think going to see magic mike is the same as going ot a strip club. To me, it is not. A husband going ot a strip club to me is the same as a wife working at a strip club,. In fact, I think the wife working is better in terms of being fair to the relationship because she is bringing home hard earned money to the family, while the husband is just spending it. If the husband takes issue with wife working at strip club, personally, I don't think he should be going there. That's my two cents. IF it's good for the goose (It being strip clubs) it should be good for the gander.
Point noted, I misunderstood what you were referencing, I thought you were referencing the male revue option. Regardless of the money going out vs coming in, being the object of desire is wholly different than paying to see a performance. Your two sides ARE different. What is valid would be to argue that the husband should be ok with his wife going to a revue, NOT that he should be ok with her becoming a stripper. Him being ok with her becoming a stripper would be more in line with her being ok with him becoming a stripper as well. They are entirely different beasts.
To *you* they are entirely different beasts. To me, they are the same.
See, I get nothing from looking at dudes. No pleasure from that at all. But I get a lot of pleasure from watching dudes want me. In the end, it's about getting pleasure outside the context of the relationship. Both scenarios involve no touching, no sex, just money and looking. To me, it would be totally unfair for my (theoretical) husband to insist that he can go look at women and then I can go look at men and it's fair. Not only does he disallow me the pursuit of my own pleasure, he also makes me feel bad about my body. A double stab.0 -
Magic Mike has a plot, last I checked the Gentlemen's club didn't.0
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