Magic Mike vs A Gentleman's Club
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The real question here for ladies is:
If you could go see the Magic Mike dancers LIVE instead of on screen would you and how is your "attraction" to them any different?
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[So I pose this question. Is it the same? Is enjoying 2 hours at the local strip club different then watching Magic Mike?
*this assumes no touching or dances strictly viewing*]
It absolutely is the same. It doesn't matter whether there is touching of not. The movie, as well as "Gentleman Club" (strip club), plants seeds of temptation to go after what is forbidden and the "what if's" and the "grass is greener" thinking starts to set in. Not only is this a moral issue, but a relational and scientific issue as well. Even men and women of the strongest moral fortitude and caliber can fall to the temptations of sexual desire.
Research is showing the intertwined relationship between intimacy and sex in marital relationships and how it leads to stronger, happier, longer lasting marriages. Even images can have a profound effect on the way the mind thinks and reacts and can have negative effects.
This type of "stuff" also stimulates the pleasure centers in the brain, whether you want them to or not. If that is combined with any type of behavior that reinforces and validates the pleasure, it becomes difficult to correct. Its not impossible to correct, yet very difficult in way too many cases. For example: man and wife head to strip joint, man is mentally (and physically) aroused, man and wife go home and have sex. What is he mentally imaging: the stripper. What is she imaging: her husband having sex with the stripper and feeling totally disgusted and dirty after the sex act. Her trust in him is shaken and now he must win the heart of his wife over again.
My advise: DO NOT GO TO THE MOVIE.
Personally, I wouldn't take my wife to the movie nor would I go to a strip club with her. I don't even go to Hooters because of this. My wife is more important than that. She deserves better than that. She isn't some object of pleasure for my satisfaction. She is my wife; the one who spiritually, emotionally, and physically completes me.
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Riddle me this:
Why do threads like this always turn into a question of morals, love, relationships, marriage etc. etc. etc.?
To each their own. I like going to strip clubs with my husband. I'm ok with him going to strip clubs with his friends. He's ok with me going to watch "Magic Mike". We love, trust and respect each other (sorry but I don't buy the whole if-your-s/o-goes-to-a-strip-club-he's-disrespecting-you-and-secretly-hates-women-and-sees-them-as-objects bologna).
I am the only person who knows anything about my relationship with my husband and for a stranger to step in and tell me -- or anyone else for that matter -- what their husband or significant other is doing and how it's affecting them is just plain ridiculous. I get that people don't like strip clubs, get jealous if their s/o goes to them and thinks he's going to run off and marry his favorite dancer but to throw out blanket generalizations, push your views on me and make it seem like you know my relationship and how my husband treats me is just ludicrous.
You can respectfully have your opinion and I can respectfully have mine. There is no right or wrong answer here but don't generalize and act as though you know my life because trust me. You don't and if you did? Well your hair would stand on end and you'd be shocked as all hell.0 -
Nm. I dont care.0
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This to me is a more fair comparison. Live is different.The real question here for ladies is:
If you could go see the Magic Mike dancers LIVE instead of on screen would you and how is your "attraction" to them any different?
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I just can't wait for the hype around this movie to disappear. It's sad that eyecandy movies like this are getting so much attention when other better movies are ignored because they may not have "hot actors." Doesn't anyone care about the plot in a film anymore?
I care a lot about the plot, and this movie just didn't have it. The naked butts were great to look at, and I love the dancing. But storyline, nope.
Meh, you can just look up screenshots from the movie now that it's out. That way you get the image you want without sitting through the rest of it. Problem solved. :P0 -
Riddle me this:
Why do threads like this always turn into a question of morals, love, relationships, marriage etc. etc. etc.?
To each their own. I like going to strip clubs with my husband. I'm ok with him going to strip clubs with his friends. He's ok with me going to watch "Magic Mike". We love, trust and respect each other (sorry but I don't buy the whole if-your-s/o-goes-to-a-strip-club-he's-disrespecting-you-and-secretly-hates-women-and-sees-them-as-objects bologna).
I am the only person who knows anything about my relationship with my husband and for a stranger to step in and tell me -- or anyone else for that matter -- what their husband or significant other is doing and how it's affecting them is just plain ridiculous. I get that people don't like strip clubs, get jealous if their s/o goes to them and thinks he's going to run off and marry his favorite dancer but to throw out blanket generalizations, push your views on me and make it seem like you know my relationship and how my husband treats me is just ludicrous.
You can respectfully have your opinion and I can respectfully have mine. There is no right or wrong answer here but don't generalize and act as though you know my life because trust me. You don't and if you did? Well your hair would stand on end and you'd be shocked as all hell.
I personally don't have an issue with strip clubs. But I will say that from watching these threads the people who seemed to get bashed and generalized are the ones who are not okay with strip clubs, especially women. They get very belittled for their point of view, they get accused of being jealous and insecure when in reality none of us knows what is going on in their marriages either.0 -
[So I pose this question. Is it the same? Is enjoying 2 hours at the local strip club different then watching Magic Mike?
*this assumes no touching or dances strictly viewing*]
It absolutely is the same. It doesn't matter whether there is touching of not. The movie, as well as "Gentleman Club" (strip club), plants seeds of temptation to go after what is forbidden and the "what if's" and the "grass is greener" thinking starts to set in. Not only is this a moral issue, but a relational and scientific issue as well. Even men and women of the strongest moral fortitude and caliber can fall to the temptations of sexual desire.
Research is showing the intertwined relationship between intimacy and sex in marital relationships and how it leads to stronger, happier, longer lasting marriages. Even images can have a profound effect on the way the mind thinks and reacts and can have negative effects.
This type of "stuff" also stimulates the pleasure centers in the brain, whether you want them to or not. If that is combined with any type of behavior that reinforces and validates the pleasure, it becomes difficult to correct. Its not impossible to correct, yet very difficult in way too many cases. For example: man and wife head to strip joint, man is mentally (and physically) aroused, man and wife go home and have sex. What is he mentally imaging: the stripper. What is she imaging: her husband having sex with the stripper and feeling totally disgusted and dirty after the sex act. Her trust in him is shaken and now he must win the heart of his wife over again.
My advise: DO NOT GO TO THE MOVIE.
Personally, I wouldn't take my wife to the movie nor would I go to a strip club with her. I don't even go to Hooters because of this. My wife is more important than that. She deserves better than that. She isn't some object of pleasure for my satisfaction. She is my wife; the one who spiritually, emotionally, and physically completes me.
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I wonder if the women going to ogle at Magic Mike are against pornography?
I honestly don't see the difference, and I'm a woman. In a no-touch scenario, I don't get the big deal. As for stuffing bills, you don't have to. I've been to strip clubs, and the girls will dance without it AND you can just hand them the bills.0 -
I wonder if the women going to ogle at Magic Mike are against pornography?
Nope. At least I'm not against it anyway.0 -
The only temptation at a Gentleman's Club is the temptation to spend all your money.0
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Doing > watching
doing what? Watching is all thats happening in both examples
That's the greater than sign. The open side is towards "doing." This means that doing is "greater than" or more than just watching. Not the same.
One is people you'd never see on a screen. Another is some girl grinding her yahoo inches from your face.
Striptease = Magic Mike
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The story: A facebook friend posted about seeing the movie Magic Mike. I asked if I should take my wife? She Laughed and said Yes. She said there were about a 12 husbands there with wives. I said, "Not gonna happen unless she takes me to the local Gentleman's club"; to which she responded. "That's not the same...there is no actual Temptation, no physical contact. etc..."
So I pose this question. Is it the same? Is enjoying 2 hours at the local strip club different then watching Magic Mike?
*this assumes no touching or dances strictly viewing*
Just some points for those participating.
*Most clubs have a "no touching" rule so that argument does not have any validity.
*Additionally I dont want to go to the club I said it only to stir trouble
Im like that
Ready, Set, DEBATE!
I would be fine if my man went to the strip club, as long as I get to join him. 0 -
Magic Mike has a plot, last I checked the Gentlemen's club didn't.
If the plot is so impotant then why do you know the name of the star and his name is on every womans lips?
Because its not about the plot is about Channing Tatum, his 6 pack and his hot Man package. Oh and matthew mcconaughey. thats the entire point of the thread. Regardless of the story line there were millions of women who went to the theater to privately fantasize in their own minds as the images of those men flashed across the screen. Women in this thread who disagree were fanning themselves With I know right comments about how hot the movie was. So dont give me this Oh my movie is an innocent film with no negative drawbacks. the purpose of the film was to give millions of Women a GNO to go get hot and bothered in a darkened movie theater.
I actually don't think I'll find any of the men sexy at all. I saw the previews and wasn't impressed. I'm going to see it, but only because a couple of my friends watched it, and told me OMG the things they do, and I wanna watch it and tell them "eh." and look a the horrified expressions on their faces I'm hoping there will be at least something there that's worth it. 0 -
lol, this is more fun than reading the political boards :laugh:0
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Riddle me this:
Why do threads like this always turn into a question of morals, love, relationships, marriage etc. etc. etc.?
To each their own. I like going to strip clubs with my husband. I'm ok with him going to strip clubs with his friends. He's ok with me going to watch "Magic Mike". We love, trust and respect each other (sorry but I don't buy the whole if-your-s/o-goes-to-a-strip-club-he's-disrespecting-you-and-secretly-hates-women-and-sees-them-as-objects bologna).
I am the only person who knows anything about my relationship with my husband and for a stranger to step in and tell me -- or anyone else for that matter -- what their husband or significant other is doing and how it's affecting them is just plain ridiculous. I get that people don't like strip clubs, get jealous if their s/o goes to them and thinks he's going to run off and marry his favorite dancer but to throw out blanket generalizations, push your views on me and make it seem like you know my relationship and how my husband treats me is just ludicrous.
You can respectfully have your opinion and I can respectfully have mine. There is no right or wrong answer here but don't generalize and act as though you know my life because trust me. You don't and if you did? Well your hair would stand on end and you'd be shocked as all hell.
I personally don't have an issue with strip clubs. But I will say that from watching these threads the people who seemed to get bashed and generalized are the ones who are not okay with strip clubs, especially women. They get very belittled for their point of view, they get accused of being jealous and insecure when in reality none of us knows what is going on in their marriages either.
I respectfully disagree to a point. The ones who don't want their men to go to strip clubs have flat out said they're jealous and don't want him ogling another woman. They also have said that the women who "let" their men go to strip clubs and go with them have no self esteem and that their S/O is disrespecting them by looking at naked women and that it's wrong for him to get all horned up by a young thing gyrating in his face and then come home to you.
Maybe not in this particular thread (yet) but there have been other threads about strip clubs and whether or not it's "ok" if your man goes and it got fairly heated.0 -
"...so you have something to look at when you're talking to them!!!"0
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I think my argument would be that the men in the movie aren't attainable, where as at a local gentleman's club those women are, and are in your immediate area, to me there is a difference.
Pretty much this. Though, I have no problem with my man going to a strip club / gentlemen's club as long as he doesn't bang her.0 -
sorry man, not the same...At all.
Magic Mike=Ah whatever-get out w/your friends and go see it
Strip club=If you go we will have it out in a colossal way when you get home.
I told my wife to go, but she didn't.....MEH0 -
sorry man, not the same...At all.
Magic Mike=Ah whatever-get out w/your friends and go see it
Strip club=If you go we will have it out in a colossal way when you get home.
I told my wife to go, but she didn't.....MEH
Ya see its a double standard. The purpose of the movie is not to see some great dancing its to watch Hot muscled guys dance suggestively....the same purpose that going to a strip club attains. Remember we aren't getting lap dances or touching. this is watching only. The only difference is live action vs Film. Im claiming that doesnt matter because the purpose and the end result are the same. I think its interesting that several women have suggested that these exotic dancers are "attainable" but I assure you. Guys dont act like women. Ive been in a strip club and Ive worked security at Male Revues...the women are like ravenous hungry wolves. They lose complete control when those dancers come out. Men dont do that. So to suggest that a man is much more likely to hook up with a dancer at a strip club vs a woman who just watched magic mike, I find that to be drastically skewed. Every guy she passes on the way home or at the bar getting drinks with the girls after the movie is "attainable".
Those dancers at a strip club if the truth be known are probably less attainable than the average girl walking down the sidewalk out side the club.
The point is, and people keep trying to INJECT "What ifs" and "Could happens", without any other actions taking place the 2 are the same. What ifs and could happens do not apply. You cant project what might happen in a given situation. I could say you go out to get popcorn and find the guy who is working is cute and he gives your "the look". That could happen. So whats attainable is invalid.0 -
I can cut the grass in my front yard w/no shirt
My wife can't cut the grass in the front yard w/her **** hanging out as in strip club......That's one difference.
The other-Movie=MOVIE
Club=just about as obtainable but REAL people
Not the same...
But your obtainable comments are 100% correct.
I guess because I don't have a problem with it, it's not a big deal to me at all. FWIW my wife did say she didn't want to go because she wouldn't want me to go if it were a similar situation....But I still wouldn't care if she went0 -
Unless the wife can leave the theater with glitter covering her face there not the same.0
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Unless the wife can leave the theater with glitter covering her face there not the same.
LOL last time I went to one was with guys after work, and I was along for the ride......I specifically explained that glitter, and vanilla cookie scent is NOT acceptable to bring home.
Have not been since being married though0 -
Does anybody care that these people in these clubs make their money off pathetic, unsatisfied people?I wonder if the women going to ogle at Magic Mike are against pornography?
I honestly don't see the difference, and I'm a woman. In a no-touch scenario, I don't get the big deal. As for stuffing bills, you don't have to. I've been to strip clubs, and the girls will dance without it AND you can just hand them the bills.
HELLO!
How about doing what you can in real life to earn what you desire without running off to a strip club to long for what you want but can't have?
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I guess because I don't have a problem with it, it's not a big deal to me at all. FWIW my wife did say she didn't want to go because she wouldn't want me to go if it were a similar situation....But I still wouldn't care if she went
this is true for me as well. But I dont care if she goes and I have no interest in hitting a strip club. Its not fun when you dont have to work for it
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I'd say it's a fair deal.0
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All I can say is that a good Gentlemen's Club warms up the women too!
Magic Mike might not get a married guy revving up.0 -
Self righteous much?
Does anybody care that these people in these clubs make their money off pathetic, unsatisfied people?I wonder if the women going to ogle at Magic Mike are against pornography?
I honestly don't see the difference, and I'm a woman. In a no-touch scenario, I don't get the big deal. As for stuffing bills, you don't have to. I've been to strip clubs, and the girls will dance without it AND you can just hand them the bills.
HELLO!
How about doing what you can in real life to earn what you desire without running off to a strip club to long for what you want but can't have?
ABSURD!0 -
Self righteous much?
Does anybody care that these people in these clubs make their money off pathetic, unsatisfied people?I wonder if the women going to ogle at Magic Mike are against pornography?
I honestly don't see the difference, and I'm a woman. In a no-touch scenario, I don't get the big deal. As for stuffing bills, you don't have to. I've been to strip clubs, and the girls will dance without it AND you can just hand them the bills.
HELLO!
How about doing what you can in real life to earn what you desire without running off to a strip club to long for what you want but can't have?
ABSURD!
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