Magic Mike vs A Gentleman's Club
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I just can't wait for the hype around this movie to disappear. It's sad that eyecandy movies like this are getting so much attention when other better movies are ignored because they may not have "hot actors." Doesn't anyone care about the plot in a film anymore?
Plot and originality have been lost to modern film makers0 -
I just can't wait for the hype around this movie to disappear. It's sad that eyecandy movies like this are getting so much attention when other better movies are ignored because they may not have "hot actors." Doesn't anyone care about the plot in a film anymore?
Plot and originality have been lost to modern film makers
Go see Brave. It's a really good movie.0 -
To *you* they are entirely different beasts. To me, they are the same.
See, I get nothing from looking at dudes. No pleasure from that at all. But I get a lot of pleasure from watching dudes want me. In the end, it's about getting pleasure outside the context of the relationship. Both scenarios involve no touching, no sex, just money and looking. To me, it would be totally unfair for my (theoretical) husband to insist that he can go look at women and then I can go look at men and it's fair. Not only does he disallow me the pursuit of my own pleasure, he also makes me feel bad about my body. A double stab.
Based on this comment I doubt we will come to agreement on this and will drop this line of discussion.0 -
To *you* they are entirely different beasts. To me, they are the same.
See, I get nothing from looking at dudes. No pleasure from that at all. But I get a lot of pleasure from watching dudes want me. In the end, it's about getting pleasure outside the context of the relationship. Both scenarios involve no touching, no sex, just money and looking. To me, it would be totally unfair for my (theoretical) husband to insist that he can go look at women and then I can go look at men and it's fair. Not only does he disallow me the pursuit of my own pleasure, he also makes me feel bad about my body. A double stab.
Based on this comment I doubt we will come to agreement on this and will drop this line of discussion.
See. people are different! And that's ok! 0 -
So funny you say this! My boyfriend stated a couple of days ago that if I go to see Magic Mike with my girls he is going to the strip club with his boys. I said GO FOR IT! Just no lapdances and were cool. Look but no touch. Doesnt really bother me. As far as if it is the same? Not really but whatever.
I'd agree with this I'd actually join him at the strip club haha! 0 -
To *you* they are entirely different beasts. To me, they are the same.
See, I get nothing from looking at dudes. No pleasure from that at all. But I get a lot of pleasure from watching dudes want me. In the end, it's about getting pleasure outside the context of the relationship. Both scenarios involve no touching, no sex, just money and looking. To me, it would be totally unfair for my (theoretical) husband to insist that he can go look at women and then I can go look at men and it's fair. Not only does he disallow me the pursuit of my own pleasure, he also makes me feel bad about my body. A double stab.
Based on this comment I doubt we will come to agreement on this and will drop this line of discussion. See. people are different! And that's ok!
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Why see "Magic Mike" at all when you can see Michael Fassbender FULL FRONTAL in "Shame"?! There's no contest... :devil:
As to the original question though, strip clubs are fully nude here, and I know they don't show the goodies in "Magic Mike", so it's really apples to oranges.
I go to "gentlemen's" clubs more often than my man does though, so I'd never tell him he couldn't go!0 -
You're comparing a silly movie to a strip club? Haha, no. Not the same.0
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Strip Clubs are way better 0
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Apples and oranges.
I think the comparison should be more like 'Strip Club' vs "Shades of Grey" novels.
Men = visual creatures
Women = mental creatures.
So every hour she spends living in a fantasy world of words, you get to spend in the strip club.
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Doing > watching
Not the same...but
who needs Magic Mike with thebaconbeast in the house...
and lol a preview for Magic Mike just came on my tv... and I definitely can't wait to see it on Friday tee hee0 -
A girlfriend says "Girls night! Were all going to dinner and a showing of magic Mike" I say "Okay, sounds good!"
I proceed to read the reviews and synopsis, I think "Oh, wow, okay, thats fine I guess, I'll still go, I like Channing Tatum"
Husband asks about it, I tell him what I read in the reviews. He doesn't say to much. A couple days later he askes me about it
again.
I proceed to watch the trailer with him in the same general area but not watching. I immeadiatly get a bit uncomfortable.
I knew it was a chick flick but I had no idea that it was so seductive. We mutually decided it wasn't appropriate for me to go.
I don't think it's the equivelant of a man going to a strip club but, say you put Scarlet Johannason, Uma thermon, Danica Patrick
and whoever else your man thinks is hot, in a movie about female strippers, rated R with lots of T and A bouncing around.
Are you okay with you hubby having a guys night out and watching it?
The road goes both ways folks.0 -
Magic Mike has a plot, last I checked the Gentlemen's club didn't.
If the plot is so impotant then why do you know the name of the star and his name is on every womans lips?
Because its not about the plot is about Channing Tatum, his 6 pack and his hot Man package. Oh and matthew mcconaughey. thats the entire point of the thread. Regardless of the story line there were millions of women who went to the theater to privately fantasize in their own minds as the images of those men flashed across the screen. Women in this thread who disagree were fanning themselves With I know right comments about how hot the movie was. So dont give me this Oh my movie is an innocent film with no negative drawbacks. the purpose of the film was to give millions of Women a GNO to go get hot and bothered in a darkened movie theater.0 -
Apples and oranges.
I think the comparison should be more like 'Strip Club' vs "Shades of Grey" novels.
Men = visual creatures
Women = mental creatures.
So every hour she spends living in a fantasy world of words, you get to spend in the strip club.
In that case it would all be a wash because men look at things all the time that turn them on and most women don't read that many books.0 -
Apples and oranges.
I think the comparison should be more like 'Strip Club' vs "Shades of Grey" novels.
Men = visual creatures
Women = mental creatures.
So every hour she spends living in a fantasy world of words, you get to spend in the strip club.
I dont disagree with that comparison0 -
Apples and oranges.
I think the comparison should be more like 'Strip Club' vs "Shades of Grey" novels.
Men = visual creatures
Women = mental creatures.
So every hour she spends living in a fantasy world of words, you get to spend in the strip club.
In that case it would all be a wash because men look at things all the time that turn them on and most women don't read that many books.
We aren't discussing quantity only the actual act.0 -
I saw Magic Mike Saturday afternoon with a bunch of work friends and we had a great time....pretty boys, enjoyed the dancing, had a few laughs. The same night I attended a bachelorette party with a different group of girls and we ended the night at a men's strip club. We had a great time...pretty boys, enjoyed the dancing, had a few laughs. But only one of the experiences left me smelling of cologne & sporting a big grin the next morning. Just saying. 0
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Magic Mike has a plot, last I checked the Gentlemen's club didn't.
If the plot is so impotant then why do you know the name of the star and his name is on every womans lips?
Because its not about the plot is about Channing Tatum, his 6 pack and his hot Man package. Oh and matthew mcconaughey. thats the entire point of the thread. Regardless of the story line there were millions of women who went to the theater to privately fantasize in their own minds as the images of those men flashed across the screen. Women in this thread who disagree were fanning themselves With I know right comments about how hot the movie was. So dont give me this Oh my movie is an innocent film with no negative drawbacks. the purpose of the film was to give millions of Women a GNO to go get hot and bothered in a darkened movie theater.
I don't think anyone is saying it is perfectly innocent. Its no more or less innocent than the millions of other non porn movies out there that have fully nude women in them. (except of course, magic mike has no full frontal nudity) I think people are saying there is a difference between real life and a movie.0 -
A girlfriend says "Girls night! Were all going to dinner and a showing of magic Mike" I say "Okay, sounds good!"
I proceed to read the reviews and synopsis, I think "Oh, wow, okay, thats fine I guess, I'll still go, I like Channing Tatum"
Husband asks about it, I tell him what I read in the reviews. He doesn't say to much. A couple days later he askes me about it
again.
I proceed to watch the trailer with him in the same general area but not watching. I immeadiatly get a bit uncomfortable.
I knew it was a chick flick but I had no idea that it was so seductive. We mutually decided it wasn't appropriate for me to go.
I don't think it's the equivelant of a man going to a strip club but, say you put Scarlet Johannason, Uma thermon, Danica Patrick
and whoever else your man thinks is hot, in a movie about female strippers, rated R with lots of T and A bouncing around.
Are you okay with you hubby having a guys night out and watching it?
The road goes both ways folks.I like Channing Tatum"
See!!! LOL why do you like channing tatum..his acting ability is horrendous0 -
I LOVE the guys who go to the club with their girl, and that he makes her feel secure enough with herself not to worry about the flesh dancing all around.... but it's more guys who pay 50+ bucks to buy you a steak dinner, or a bottle of champagne, but haven't had a nice date with their wife in forever.... Guys behave diffent with the neon-strobe lights and g-strings than they do around their wives in daylight.... awoman watching a movie just DOES NOT EQUATE!!!
Well then I guess I walk around with a neon-strobe light blinking over my head because the way my husband behaves in a strip club is how he behaves around me normally: a perfect gentleman who respects woman and loves me to pieces and has never once made me feel less than the goddess that I am.0 -
Apples and oranges.
I think the comparison should be more like 'Strip Club' vs "Shades of Grey" novels.
Men = visual creatures
Women = mental creatures.
So every hour she spends living in a fantasy world of words, you get to spend in the strip club.
In that case it would all be a wash because men look at things all the time that turn them on and most women don't read that many books.
We aren't discussing quantity only the actual act.
The post that I quoted and responded to said, "So every hour she spends living in a fantasy world of words, you get to spend in the strip club. :wink"0 -
Sorry, it's not a double standard - the two simply don't equate. The movie "Showgirls" = "Magic Mike" see how that works?
LOLin' over here
^^^^ this ..BUT, if he still wanted to go to a gentlemen's club I would go with him and bring ones because I like ladies stripping better then men..but that's average men..movie hunks are unreal and real strippers don't look like those guys ..maybe one of 10 will but the rest look like the guy at starbucks ..just saying0 -
Magic Mike has a plot, last I checked the Gentlemen's club didn't.
If the plot is so impotant then why do you know the name of the star and his name is on every womans lips?
Because its not about the plot is about Channing Tatum, his 6 pack and his hot Man package. Oh and matthew mcconaughey. thats the entire point of the thread. Regardless of the story line there were millions of women who went to the theater to privately fantasize in their own minds as the images of those men flashed across the screen. Women in this thread who disagree were fanning themselves With I know right comments about how hot the movie was. So dont give me this Oh my movie is an innocent film with no negative drawbacks. the purpose of the film was to give millions of Women a GNO to go get hot and bothered in a darkened movie theater.
I don't think anyone is saying it is perfectly innocent. Its no more or less innocent than the millions of other non porn movies out there that have fully nude women in them. (except of course, magic mike has no full frontal nudity) I think people are saying there is a difference between real life and a movie.
Oh and every one keeps mentioning Full Frontal. sorry Full Nude clubs are not allowed in this state unless they have been grandfathered in. Im aware of only 1 in our entire state. Additionally I worked security once at a Male revue and I know how little of an imagination those tight speedos require on Magic Mike and his buddies. So I still stand by my fair comparison.0 -
Sorry, it's not a double standard - the two simply don't equate. The movie "Showgirls" = "Magic Mike" see how that works?
LOLin' over here
^^^^ this ..BUT, if he still wanted to go to a gentlemen's club I would go with him and bring ones because I like ladies stripping better then men..but that's average men..movie hunks are unreal and real strippers don't look like those guys ..maybe one of 10 will but the rest look like the guy at starbucks ..just saying
really? That would be dissapointing. I've never been to a male strip club.0 -
Sorry, it's not a double standard - the two simply don't equate. The movie "Showgirls" = "Magic Mike" see how that works?
LOLin' over here
^^^^ this ..BUT, if he still wanted to go to a gentlemen's club I would go with him and bring ones because I like ladies stripping better then men..but that's average men..movie hunks are unreal and real strippers don't look like those guys ..maybe one of 10 will but the rest look like the guy at starbucks ..just saying
LOL exactly Reality .."Hey dont you work at Kinkos?"0 -
Magic Mike has a plot, last I checked the Gentlemen's club didn't.
If the plot is so impotant then why do you know the name of the star and his name is on every womans lips?
Because its not about the plot is about Channing Tatum, his 6 pack and his hot Man package. Oh and matthew mcconaughey. thats the entire point of the thread. Regardless of the story line there were millions of women who went to the theater to privately fantasize in their own minds as the images of those men flashed across the screen. Women in this thread who disagree were fanning themselves With I know right comments about how hot the movie was. So dont give me this Oh my movie is an innocent film with no negative drawbacks. the purpose of the film was to give millions of Women a GNO to go get hot and bothered in a darkened movie theater.
I don't think anyone is saying it is perfectly innocent. Its no more or less innocent than the millions of other non porn movies out there that have fully nude women in them. (except of course, magic mike has no full frontal nudity) I think people are saying there is a difference between real life and a movie.
Oh and every one keeps mentioning Full Frontal. sorry Full Nude clubs are not allowed in this state unless they have been grandfathered in. Im aware of only 1 in our entire state. Additionally I worked security once at a Male revue and I know how little of an imagination those tight speedos require on Magic Mike and his buddies. So I still stand by my fair comparison.
In my state you get to see it all.0 -
A girlfriend says "Girls night! Were all going to dinner and a showing of magic Mike" I say "Okay, sounds good!"
I proceed to read the reviews and synopsis, I think "Oh, wow, okay, thats fine I guess, I'll still go, I like Channing Tatum"
Husband asks about it, I tell him what I read in the reviews. He doesn't say to much. A couple days later he askes me about it
again.
I proceed to watch the trailer with him in the same general area but not watching. I immeadiatly get a bit uncomfortable.
I knew it was a chick flick but I had no idea that it was so seductive. We mutually decided it wasn't appropriate for me to go.
I don't think it's the equivelant of a man going to a strip club but, say you put Scarlet Johannason, Uma thermon, Danica Patrick
and whoever else your man thinks is hot, in a movie about female strippers, rated R with lots of T and A bouncing around.
Are you okay with you hubby having a guys night out and watching it?
The road goes both ways folks.
Yup.
I'm also ok with my hubby having a guys night out at a strip club and I'm ok with him going to a bachelor party that has the "Get Wet Girls". I know what they're all about and I know what my husband is about. News Flash: Not everyone distrusts their significant other. I have complete and total trust in my husband and vice versa. Even before I ever went to a strip club with him I knew what they were about and never felt the need to forbid it. He's a man. He's going to look and I'm ok with that because he's with me, he loves me and I trust him.
I had a girls night out with a friend of mine about a year ago and we got picked up by a couple of guys at the bar. We flirted. We had fun. It was innocent and I told my husband about it the next day. I even told him that the guy was super hot too (because he was) and that he was trying hard to pick up my friend and I. I never went back to his room. I never did anything inappropriate with him and my husband thought it was funny and I know that if my friend wanted a girls night out again he'd be ok with it because he trusts me and we're secure in our relationship.
*shrugs* Jealousy is a wasted emotion.0 -
A girlfriend says "Girls night! Were all going to dinner and a showing of magic Mike" I say "Okay, sounds good!"
I proceed to read the reviews and synopsis, I think "Oh, wow, okay, thats fine I guess, I'll still go, I like Channing Tatum"
Husband asks about it, I tell him what I read in the reviews. He doesn't say to much. A couple days later he askes me about it
again.
I proceed to watch the trailer with him in the same general area but not watching. I immeadiatly get a bit uncomfortable.
I knew it was a chick flick but I had no idea that it was so seductive. We mutually decided it wasn't appropriate for me to go.
I don't think it's the equivelant of a man going to a strip club but, say you put Scarlet Johannason, Uma thermon, Danica Patrick
and whoever else your man thinks is hot, in a movie about female strippers, rated R with lots of T and A bouncing around.
Are you okay with you hubby having a guys night out and watching it?
The road goes both ways folks.I like Channing Tatum"
See!!! LOL why do you like channing tatum..his acting ability is horrendous
Becaus, that man can dance. Im not talking strip dancing. I am talking the legit kind. I don't care what his face or acting abilities are. Like some men admire Danica for her racing abilities as a chick or valerie thompson for her motorcycle records, I admire Channing in the same way. Men who can dance that well are an enomaly :-)0 -
I personally think they are both bad.0
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[So I pose this question. Is it the same? Is enjoying 2 hours at the local strip club different then watching Magic Mike?
*this assumes no touching or dances strictly viewing*]
It absolutely is the same. It doesn't matter whether there is touching of not. The movie, as well as "Gentleman Club" (strip club), plants seeds of temptation to go after what is forbidden and the "what if's" and the "grass is greener" thinking starts to set in. Not only is this a moral issue, but a relational and scientific issue as well. Even men and women of the strongest moral fortitude and caliber can fall to the temptations of sexual desire.
Research is showing the intertwined relationship between intimacy and sex in marital relationships and how it leads to stronger, happier, longer lasting marriages. Even images can have a profound effect on the way the mind thinks and reacts and can have negative effects.
This type of "stuff" also stimulates the pleasure centers in the brain, whether you want them to or not. If that is combined with any type of behavior that reinforces and validates the pleasure, it becomes difficult to correct. Its not impossible to correct, yet very difficult in way too many cases. For example: man and wife head to strip joint, man is mentally (and physically) aroused, man and wife go home and have sex. What is he mentally imaging: the stripper. What is she imaging: her husband having sex with the stripper and feeling totally disgusted and dirty after the sex act. Her trust in him is shaken and now he must win the heart of his wife over again.
My advise: DO NOT GO TO THE MOVIE.
Personally, I wouldn't take my wife to the movie nor would I go to a strip club with her. I don't even go to Hooters because of this. My wife is more important than that. She deserves better than that. She isn't some object of pleasure for my satisfaction. She is my wife; the one who spiritually, emotionally, and physically completes me.0
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