"No Mayo?" Why Americans Are Fat
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None of those food items by themselves will make you "fat". If you consume more calories than you expend you will gain weight, it's that simple. Mayo, deep dish pizza and all those other evil foods you mentioned, in my opinion are delicious and I eat them as often as I like as long as they fit into to my caloric goals. And on the occasions where they do not fit into my goals I don't worry too much about it. I simply refuse to stop living my life hostage to my weight and diet as long as I'm meeting my goals 90% of time the rest will take care of itself.0
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Inuits eat an all fat diet and they are one of the healthiest humans on the planet.
You're not an Inuit, sweetie.
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If you were to hypothetically consume only mayonnaise and consumed over 6000 calories you wouldn't gain any fat at all. Mayo by itself doesnt make you fat carbohydrates do. Why? because of insulin. Mayo is pure fat and does not spike insulin at all. you are blaming something that does not make you fat carbs do. The problem with carbohydrates though is that they taste amazing.
Carbs are NOT the bad guys in the food world. Fruits and vegetables are carbs. The bad guys are all the processed, quick and easy junk foods that we've gotten used to consuming. Overall, a good, balanced, mostly whole food diet is the best, most effective way to lose weight AND be healthier.
nope. they aren't, either. sorry.0 -
You sir, have obviously never dipped your french fries in mayo.0
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We are fat because a double cheeseburger is $0.99 and a smoothie is almost $8.00. Nine times out of ten the healthy option will cost more dough than junk food.
Amen! :drinker:0 -
If you were to hypothetically consume only mayonnaise and consumed over 6000 calories you wouldn't gain any fat at all. Mayo by itself doesnt make you fat carbohydrates do. Why? because of insulin. Mayo is pure fat and does not spike insulin at all. you are blaming something that does not make you fat carbs do. The problem with carbohydrates though is that they taste amazing.
Bahahahahahaha! :laugh:0 -
You sir, have obviously never dipped your french fries in mayo.
Quit it! You're making me hungry! 0 -
Twinkie diet helps nutrition professor lose 27 pounds
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html0 -
I don't like mayo much either. Soooo I'm not missing much it seems.0
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And chocolate or honey is more fun in bed then mayo
... and this is why I'm glad I didn't keep a food log while away at college... half my diary would be beer, the other half coolwhip and chocolate :laugh:
and now I want coolwhip and chocolate..0 -
Inuits eat an all fat diet and they are one of the healthiest humans on the planet.
You're not an Inuit, sweetie.
I still eat a high fat diet so I part Inuit dang it!
Says who?
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so, you are calling Americans fat? nice. good one there - great way to be totally insulting. I guess I'm glad I'm a Texan then...even though ethnically I'm carribean american, l love mayo and I'm not fat. I love all that high calorie food that make my meals so yummy.
and keep up your wonderful high glycemic index diet. I'm sure that will work wonders for you in the long run! :laugh:0 -
You sir, have obviously never dipped your french fries in mayo.
Oh that's something I miss! Everyday in high school I got french fries and dipped them into mayo! Haven't had them in over 4 years.0 -
yup I blame George W. Bush for us being the fattest country in the world plus the Italians for creating pizza. DAM YOU MARIO & LUIGI!!!!!
PIZZA! PIZZA!
I like my pizza with mayo when i am drunk.
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so, you are calling Americans fat? nice. good one there - great way to be totally insulting. I guess I'm glad I'm a Texan then....
and keep up your wonderful high glycemic index diet. I'm sure that will work wonders for you in the long run! :laugh:
Wait... Calling someone who is fat "fat" is insulting HMM0 -
I'm a fat American and in my adult life, I use mustard and not mayo, always have had wheat bread and not white, and also don't drink soda. My family of 4 of us gets 1 12 pack a month and my husband is usually the one to drink them, taking them to work with him, and it's diet soda, still not good for you, but doesn't have the sugar. When I was a kid, I was 90 lbs soaking wet when I was 12, I ate junk a lot.
Some Americans are just fat. Some people can't help that they are fat. I'm fat from having kids, which I was working on losing the weight when my house burnt down in a random fire and my family lost everything, and I meant EVERYTHING. Needless to say that amounted to a lot of stress, gained over 40 lbs from that. Then, I find out, I have been hypothyroid for 4+ years and one doc never thought to tell my PCP so I was undiagnosed until a few months ago I went in demanding they help me because I couldn't sleep and was always tired, was gaining weight and unable to lose regardless of my efforts, and I was busting my *kitten*!
Anyway, enough of that. Not everyone is fat because they can't say no to food. There are other reasons.0 -
My mayo dependency was resolved after a few summers of working in a deli. You can only slop so much of that *kitten* on liverwurst and bologna sandwiches before you never want to even smell it again.0
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If you were to hypothetically consume only mayonnaise and consumed over 6000 calories you wouldn't gain any fat at all. Mayo by itself doesnt make you fat carbohydrates do. Why? because of insulin. Mayo is pure fat and does not spike insulin at all. you are blaming something that does not make you fat carbs do. The problem with carbohydrates though is that they taste amazing.
wow, really? (I need a smiley banging his head on a wall)
Thank you!
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I'm a fat American and in my adult life, I use mustard and not mayo, always have had wheat bread and not white, and also don't drink soda. My family of 4 of us gets 1 12 pack a month and my husband is usually the one to drink them, taking them to work with him, and it's diet soda, still not good for you, but doesn't have the sugar. When I was a kid, I was 90 lbs soaking wet when I was 12, I ate junk a lot.
Some Americans are just fat. Some people can't help that they are fat. I'm fat from having kids, which I was working on losing the weight when my house burnt down in a random fire and my family lost everything, and I meant EVERYTHING. Needless to say that amounted to a lot of stress, gained over 40 lbs from that. Then, I find out, I have been hypothyroid for 4+ years and one doc never thought to tell my PCP so I was undiagnosed until a few months ago I went in demanding they help me because I couldn't sleep and was always tired, was gaining weight and unable to lose regardless of my efforts, and I was busting my *kitten*!
Anyway, enough of that. Not everyone is fat because they can't say no to food. There are other reasons.
So you weren't eating any food when you gained those 40lbs? I didn't realize stress defies physics.0 -
I'm a fat American and in my adult life, I use mustard and not mayo, always have had wheat bread and not white, and also don't drink soda. My family of 4 of us gets 1 12 pack a month and my husband is usually the one to drink them, taking them to work with him, and it's diet soda, still not good for you, but doesn't have the sugar. When I was a kid, I was 90 lbs soaking wet when I was 12, I ate junk a lot.
Some Americans are just fat. Some people can't help that they are fat. I'm fat from having kids, which I was working on losing the weight when my house burnt down in a random fire and my family lost everything, and I meant EVERYTHING. Needless to say that amounted to a lot of stress, gained over 40 lbs from that. Then, I find out, I have been hypothyroid for 4+ years and one doc never thought to tell my PCP so I was undiagnosed until a few months ago I went in demanding they help me because I couldn't sleep and was always tired, was gaining weight and unable to lose regardless of my efforts, and I was busting my *kitten*!
Anyway, enough of that. Not everyone is fat because they can't say no to food. There are other reasons.
So you weren't eating any food when you gained those 40lbs? I didn't realize stress defies physics.
I actually wasn't eating hardly anything. Have you come close to dying in a fire? Doubtful. It takes a toll on you in a lot of ways. When did I even say I wasn't eating? I said I gained the weight from stress.0 -
I think there are two dieting myths out there:
(1) All calories are created equal, so it doesn't matter if it's white bread or wheat, or a piece of fish vs. a Big Mac, or a banana vs. a piece of chocolate cake, so long as you consume under your BMR...
(2) It's not the calories but the carbs that are evil
For (1), research has proven that low-glycemic calories--such as available in lean meats, fish, veggies, whole grains, certain fruits--are better for weight loss than getting high-glycemic calories, such as through sugars (fries, candies, sugars, certain breads, etc.). People who eat low-glycemic foods tend to lose more weight than high-gylcemic diets *even though the calorie count is the same*.
Here's a recent study: http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/26/which-diet-works/
Obviously, as the study shows, while a no-carb diet like Atkins has the best metabolic benefit at the same level of calorie intake, it presents some health considerations long term, and the advice was for a low-GI diet.
Here's a handy chart for low GI foods:
http://www.drkessinger.com/images/glycemicindex.pdf
You will notice that the GI of whole grain bread and some kinds of pasta is below that of white bread/baguettes and even certain types of beans. So in addition to not all calories being equal, not all carbs are created equal.
Nothing is ever as black-and-white as the media makes it out to be, though in the end, the truth is quite simple: Eat healthy, don't eat too much, and exercise.0 -
... and I could never give up cheese, OMG how could I live without cheese, I would die, wither away.
Please dont misunderstand, i couldnt live without cheese. But on a sandwich it is second to mayo but only in that case.0 -
I'm a fat American and in my adult life, I use mustard and not mayo, always have had wheat bread and not white, and also don't drink soda. My family of 4 of us gets 1 12 pack a month and my husband is usually the one to drink them, taking them to work with him, and it's diet soda, still not good for you, but doesn't have the sugar. When I was a kid, I was 90 lbs soaking wet when I was 12, I ate junk a lot.
Some Americans are just fat. Some people can't help that they are fat. I'm fat from having kids, which I was working on losing the weight when my house burnt down in a random fire and my family lost everything, and I meant EVERYTHING. Needless to say that amounted to a lot of stress, gained over 40 lbs from that. Then, I find out, I have been hypothyroid for 4+ years and one doc never thought to tell my PCP so I was undiagnosed until a few months ago I went in demanding they help me because I couldn't sleep and was always tired, was gaining weight and unable to lose regardless of my efforts, and I was busting my *kitten*!
Anyway, enough of that. Not everyone is fat because they can't say no to food. There are other reasons.
So you weren't eating any food when you gained those 40lbs? I didn't realize stress defies physics.
I actually wasn't eating hardly anything. Have you come close to dying in a fire? Doubtful. It takes a toll on you in a lot of ways. When did I even say I wasn't eating? I said I gained the weight from stress.
Saying you gained weight from stress is implying that you would have gained that weight whether you ate or not basically. Stress alone doesn't make you gain weight, eating too much does.0 -
I think there are two dieting myths out there:
(1) All calories are created equal, so it doesn't matter if it's white bread or wheat, or a piece of fish vs. a Big Mac, or a banana vs. a piece of chocolate cake, so long as you consume under your BMR...
(2) It's not the calories but the carbs that are evil
For (1), research has proven that low-glycemic calories--such as available in lean meats, fish, veggies, whole grains, certain fruits--are better for weight loss than getting high-glycemic calories, such as through sugars (fries, candies, sugars, certain breads, etc.). People who eat low-glycemic foods tend to lose more weight than high-gylcemic diets *even though the calorie count is the same*.
Here's a recent study: http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/26/which-diet-works/
Obviously, as the study shows, while a no-carb diet like Atkins has the best metabolic benefit at the same level of calorie intake, it presents some health considerations long term, and the advice was for a low-GI diet.
Here's a handy chart for low GI foods:
http://www.drkessinger.com/images/glycemicindex.pdf
You will notice that the GI of whole grain bread and some kinds of pasta is below that of white bread/baguettes and even certain types of beans. So in addition to not all calories being equal, not all carbs are created equal.
Nothing is ever as black-and-white as the media makes it out to be, though in the end, the truth is quite simple: Eat healthy, don't eat too much, and exercise.
that is true, about the gi with white vs wheat. when my mom was diagnosed with diabetes, they advised her to cut down on carbs, and count the carbs she does have, and when she has bread or pasta, go for wheat and not white, same with rice. Why wouldn't wheat be healthier anyway, white is processed.0 -
I think there are two dieting myths out there:
(1) All calories are created equal, so it doesn't matter if it's white bread or wheat, or a piece of fish vs. a Big Mac, or a banana vs. a piece of chocolate cake, so long as you consume under your BMR...
a calorie is a unit of energy. 1 from an apple = 1 from a snickers. saying it isn't is a bit like saying all inches aren't created equal.0 -
I'm a fat American and in my adult life, I use mustard and not mayo, always have had wheat bread and not white, and also don't drink soda. My family of 4 of us gets 1 12 pack a month and my husband is usually the one to drink them, taking them to work with him, and it's diet soda, still not good for you, but doesn't have the sugar. When I was a kid, I was 90 lbs soaking wet when I was 12, I ate junk a lot.
Some Americans are just fat. Some people can't help that they are fat. I'm fat from having kids, which I was working on losing the weight when my house burnt down in a random fire and my family lost everything, and I meant EVERYTHING. Needless to say that amounted to a lot of stress, gained over 40 lbs from that. Then, I find out, I have been hypothyroid for 4+ years and one doc never thought to tell my PCP so I was undiagnosed until a few months ago I went in demanding they help me because I couldn't sleep and was always tired, was gaining weight and unable to lose regardless of my efforts, and I was busting my *kitten*!
Anyway, enough of that. Not everyone is fat because they can't say no to food. There are other reasons.
So you weren't eating any food when you gained those 40lbs? I didn't realize stress defies physics.
I actually wasn't eating hardly anything. Have you come close to dying in a fire? Doubtful. It takes a toll on you in a lot of ways. When did I even say I wasn't eating? I said I gained the weight from stress.
Saying you gained weight from stress is implying that you would have gained that weight whether you ate or not basically. Stress alone doesn't make you gain weight, eating too much does.
stress itself can cause weight gain. Too much stress can increase cortisol which makes you gain weight. It messes with your metabolism. Good try 0 -
that is true, about the gi with white vs wheat. when my mom was diagnosed with diabetes, they advised her to cut down on carbs, and count the carbs she does have, and when she has bread or pasta, go for wheat and not white, same with rice. Why wouldn't wheat be healthier anyway, white is processed.
uhh ... wheat is processed, too.0 -
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_obe-health-obesity
There you go. Stats don't lie: America is No. 1 in obesity. Not all Americans are fat but generally, we are the fattest.
Also, I advocate a low-GI diet. Whole-grain bread is fairly low GI--lower than some kind of beans as this chart shows:
http://www.drkessinger.com/images/glycemicindex.pdf
Scroll up to my previous post on "myths" for a better picture.0 -
If you were to hypothetically consume only mayonnaise and consumed over 6000 calories you wouldn't gain any fat at all. Mayo by itself doesnt make you fat carbohydrates do. Why? because of insulin. Mayo is pure fat and does not spike insulin at all. you are blaming something that does not make you fat carbs do. The problem with carbohydrates though is that they taste amazing.
This is simply amazing. You should be a nutrition expert.
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Real mayo is really just an egg, a healthy oil like olive oil (not canola), lemon juice and usually a few spices. There isn't anything particularly healthy with that.
That being said, this is not how Miracle Whip or most store bought brands are made so OP is correct about that.0
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