"No Mayo?" Why Americans Are Fat

saralynn594

You know I just don't like you OP

half_moon

Hmm, I've never seen a difference between the calories in whole wheat bread and white bread. A quick comparasion on here of the same brand shows no difference.

For me, a good mayo adds flavor. I love mayo. i would rather forego cheese over mayo. I guess it boils down to your taste.

I dont really do soda.

PS - not American.

There is a huge difference with white bread and whole wheat.. Yes, calorie wise and such, they are similar, but mfp will not tell you whats good for you and whats not. White bread is produced from refined white flour. It starts as the whole wheat grain, then goes through the refining process which removes traces of the husk, bran, everything. Then, it is BLEACHED with a chemical bleaching agent that contains chlorine . Once it is bleached, gluten, salt & sugar is added depending on the stage of it rising. There is no benefit from eating white bread. Some health issues: It contains carbs which causes rapid release of the bodys own sugar regulating hormone and insulin. This hormone is secreted in the pancreas and is responsible for regulating blood sugar levels. Insulin is what people suffering with type 1 diabetes have to inject to regulate their blood sugar levels because their body does not produce sufficient naturally. Type II diabetes is a rapidly spreading disease brought on by too frequent imbalances in blood sugar levels causing insulin production to become overworked, which eventually leads to the problem and all others the negative health aspects. Other things, it stores fat, bad for digestion (which can lead to crohns, IBS, cancer of the colon , the list goes on! I dont want to bore you any longer, but i strongly suggest you look up certain foods you eat.

EWWWWWWWWWW GROSS. If I thought I missed white bread before, my mind has definitely been changed. Thanks for that!

GROSS. Bleached? BLECGH.

pants77

Mayo is disgusting.

Then again, I got up to 347 without any mayo at all.

So whilst mayo may be a solid contributor to American obesity, it's far from the only or the top contributor.

Most Americans get little or no exercise of any kind. That's your leading contributor right there.

Silverkittycat

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_obe-health-obesity

The question it raises is: What is it about the American lifestyle and way of eating that make it No. 1 in obesity stats?

In 1984 the national percentage of overweight individuals was reported in a major assessment of the nation’s health. Men having a BMI of 28 or greater were considered overweight. This BMI number was chosen to define overweight because 85% of American men ages 20-29 fell below it. A different calculation, not BMI, was used for women in the report.

In 1985, the term overweight was redefined as a BMI equal to or greater than 27.8 for men and equal to or greater than 27.3 for women. No BMI was selected to define underweight individuals. This definition of overweight was used in reports on obesity until 1998.

In 1998, the United States National Institutes of Health revised its weight definitions to bring them in line with the definitions used by the World Health Organization. Overnight 30 million Americans went from being classified as normal weight to being classified as overweight. Overweight is now defined for both men and women as a BMI of 25 or less. At the same time, an underweight classification was added, as was the classification of obese for individuals with a BMI greater than or equal to 30.

DrBorkBork

homemade mayo is a thing of beauty. Healthy fat & good protein (also it takes 5 mins to make, and you can make it flavorful by adding your favorite spices-- like chipotle mayo, mmmm). Personally I prefer to skip the bread altogether and just get it wrapped in lettuce like Jimmy John's unwich. Bread itself is empty cals.

RobynMWilson

yup I blame George W. Bush for us being the fattest country in the world plus the Italians for creating pizza. DAM YOU MARIO & LUIGI!!!!!


PIZZA! PIZZA!

Hahaha! Why blame George W Bush? Oh...it's the "in" thing to do in the US right now while sliding thru the MccyD's drive thru! lol. I totally agree with this post on everything besides the mayo lol. I don't eat tons of it but if I'm having chicken breast (I prefer rotiserrie chicken for lunch than lunchmeat...not a big fan of lunchmeat) I will have a tbls of Hellman's Real Mayo on a whole wheat thin bread thingy. But it takes me like 6 months to go thru a standard size jar of mayo lol

MsTanya77

I refuse to give up mayo because I love it. I don't eat daily or even weekly but if I want a sandwich or a burger w/ mayo, then I will eat mayo. I think it makes no sense to pinpoint certain foods as targets for making people overweight. People are overweight because of bad HABITS. I didn't become obese because of MAYO and white bread. I became obese because I had lacked self-control and chose to make poor food choices.

Acg67

What if whole wheat bread was no better and possibly worse then white bread?

Vonwarr

Every country has SOME bad eating habits. Don't fool youself. Did you know that many Canadians' condiment of choice for french fries is GRAVY?! They serve that option in most restaurants there that offer french fries. I had never heard such a thing before we started vacationing there once a year (from childhood on.)

we have that here in NJ. Disco fries. yuck

Are you seriously saying Poutine is yuck? That makes me saddest of all.

Edit - disregard. I thought someone mentioned cheese curds. Fires and gravy - fine. Fries cheese and gravy = awesome.

I mentioned cheese curds! One of these days I'm going to do a 1500+ calorie work out and then actually eat a poutine again... it's going to be amazing!

Silverkittycat

Why did we have to derail what is otherwise a harmless thread of a guy sharing an anecdotal story?

Ray, I agree with you. I think it's the title of the thread and that we all have our own opinions on "why americans are fat". and mayo.

tigersword

yup I blame George W. Bush for us being the fattest country in the world plus the Italians for creating pizza. DAM YOU MARIO & LUIGI!!!!!


PIZZA! PIZZA!

Hahaha! Why blame George W Bush? Oh...it's the "in" thing to do in the US right now while sliding thru the MccyD's drive thru! lol. I totally agree with this post on everything besides the mayo lol. I don't eat tons of it but if I'm having chicken breast (I prefer rotiserrie chicken for lunch than lunchmeat...not a big fan of lunchmeat) I will have a tbls of Hellman's Real Mayo on a whole wheat thin bread thingy. But it takes me like 6 months to go thru a standard size jar of mayo lol

Nah, blaming Bush was totally 5 years ago, it's all about blaming Obama now. Then in a few more years it'll be all about blaming the next President, then the next one.... and the next one.... and the next one... We Americans are nothing if not predictable.:laugh:

Bobby_Clerici

I love mayo and include it on everything.
Fabulous condiment. :drinker:
Lost 78 lbs and reached all my weight goals.

So, why are Americans fat?
Not mayo
You could be eating tofu wrapped in seaweed dipped in celery juice and still get fat.
It's not so much WHAT we eat but how we eat.
2 words: gluttony - laziness
This is why people get fat.

AGREED!

Did you drink Cokes, fries, pies, and a bunch of other junk too? If so, hat's off--again, the mayo story is not about may in particular but about poor food choices in the USA + sedentary lifestyle. Here are the stats.

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_obe-health-obesity

The question it raises is: What is it about the American lifestyle and way of eating that make it No. 1 in obesity stats?

Clean eating is simple.
Whole foods only - if man makes it, don't eat it.
Simple.
And the crap foods are just fun in moderation which gets back to GLUTTONY!
And then we have people too lazy to exercise which leads to obesity.
Simple deal brother!:bigsmile:

losinitagain1

Why would all of you who are making a "life style change to be HEALTHY" even think about eating this? Where is the nutritional value??

Mayonnaise
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 1 tbsp
Amount Per Serving
Calories from Fat 44
Calories 57
% Daily Values*
Total Fat 4.91g 8%
Saturated Fat 0.72g 4%
Polyunsaturated Fat 2.646g
Monounsaturated Fat 1.323g
Cholesterol 4mg 1%
Sodium 105mg 4%
Potassium 1mg
Total Carbohydrate 3.51g 1%
Dietary Fiber 0g 0%
Sugars 0.94g
Protein 0.13g
Vitamin A 1% Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 0% Iron 0%
* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.
Nutrition Values are based on USDA Nutrient Database SR18 3% of RDI*
(57 calories)

Calorie Breakdown:
Carbohydrate (23%)
Fat (76%)
Protein (1%)

gpstrucker

If you were to hypothetically consume only mayonnaise and consumed over 6000 calories you wouldn't gain any fat at all. Mayo by itself doesnt make you fat carbohydrates do. Why? because of insulin. Mayo is pure fat and does not spike insulin at all. you are blaming something that does not make you fat carbs do. The problem with carbohydrates though is that they taste amazing.

Wow, and I thought I had a really good sense of humor! This is fracking hilarious!!!! Thanks for the belly laugh.

JuneBPrice

Why would all of you who are making a "life style change to be HEALTHY" even think about eating this? Where is the nutritional value??

Because if I would fail in about 11 seconds if I cut out everything I love.

Silverkittycat

Why would all of you who are making a "life style change to be HEALTHY" even think about eating this? Where is the nutritional value??

Because it tastes good? My definition of healthy might differ from yours?

SerenaNatasha

Obviously you have no idea how much fun mayo can be in the bedroom...

OMG gross! lol

Acg67

If you were to hypothetically consume only mayonnaise and consumed over 6000 calories you wouldn't gain any fat at all. Mayo by itself doesnt make you fat carbohydrates do. Why? because of insulin. Mayo is pure fat and does not spike insulin at all. you are blaming something that does not make you fat carbs do. The problem with carbohydrates though is that they taste amazing.

I like how you make things up.

tsh0ck

Why would all of you who are making a "life style change to be HEALTHY" even think about eating this? Where is the nutritional value??

life is to be lived and enjoyed. do you enjoy something? then don't give it up.
moderation.
it works.

Acg67

I think there are two dieting myths out there:

(1) All calories are created equal, so it doesn't matter if it's white bread or wheat, or a piece of fish vs. a Big Mac, or a banana vs. a piece of chocolate cake, so long as you consume under your BMR...

(2) It's not the calories but the carbs that are evil

For (1), research has proven that low-glycemic calories--such as available in lean meats, fish, veggies, whole grains, certain fruits--are better for weight loss than getting high-glycemic calories, such as through sugars (fries, candies, sugars, certain breads, etc.). People who eat low-glycemic foods tend to lose more weight than high-gylcemic diets *even though the calorie count is the same*.

Here's a recent study: http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/26/which-diet-works/

Obviously, as the study shows, while a no-carb diet like Atkins has the best metabolic benefit at the same level of calorie intake, it presents some health considerations long term, and the advice was for a low-GI diet.

Here's a handy chart for low GI foods:

http://www.drkessinger.com/images/glycemicindex.pdf

You will notice that the GI of whole grain bread and some kinds of pasta is below that of white bread/baguettes and even certain types of beans. So in addition to not all calories being equal, not all carbs are created equal.

Nothing is ever as black-and-white as the media makes it out to be, though in the end, the truth is quite simple: Eat healthy, don't eat too much, and exercise.

Lol GI. Do you eat all your foods in a fasted state and isocalorically?

Leiki

I live in So Cal, and I'm a girl. No one ever questions when I say no mayo.

tigersword

Why would all of you who are making a "life style change to be HEALTHY" even think about eating this? Where is the nutritional value??

Mayonnaise
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 1 tbsp
Amount Per Serving
Calories from Fat 44
Calories 57
% Daily Values*
Total Fat 4.91g 8%
Saturated Fat 0.72g 4%
Polyunsaturated Fat 2.646g
Monounsaturated Fat 1.323g
Cholesterol 4mg 1%
Sodium 105mg 4%
Potassium 1mg
Total Carbohydrate 3.51g 1%
Dietary Fiber 0g 0%
Sugars 0.94g
Protein 0.13g
Vitamin A 1% Vitamin C 0%
Calcium 0% Iron 0%
* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.
Nutrition Values are based on USDA Nutrient Database SR18 3% of RDI*
(57 calories)

Calorie Breakdown:
Carbohydrate (23%)
Fat (76%)
Protein (1%)

Decent fat, all the nutrition from an egg yolk, health benefits of olive oil (I make my own.) What's not healthy about it?

3dogsrunning

I think there are two dieting myths out there:

(1) All calories are created equal, so it doesn't matter if it's white bread or wheat, or a piece of fish vs. a Big Mac, or a banana vs. a piece of chocolate cake, so long as you consume under your BMR...

(2) It's not the calories but the carbs that are evil

For (1), research has proven that low-glycemic calories--such as available in lean meats, fish, veggies, whole grains, certain fruits--are better for weight loss than getting high-glycemic calories, such as through sugars (fries, candies, sugars, certain breads, etc.). People who eat low-glycemic foods tend to lose more weight than high-gylcemic diets *even though the calorie count is the same*.

Here's a recent study: http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/26/which-diet-works/

Obviously, as the study shows, while a no-carb diet like Atkins has the best metabolic benefit at the same level of calorie intake, it presents some health considerations long term, and the advice was for a low-GI diet.

Here's a handy chart for low GI foods:

http://www.drkessinger.com/images/glycemicindex.pdf

You will notice that the GI of whole grain bread and some kinds of pasta is below that of white bread/baguettes and even certain types of beans. So in addition to not all calories being equal, not all carbs are created equal.

Nothing is ever as black-and-white as the media makes it out to be, though in the end, the truth is quite simple: Eat healthy, don't eat too much, and exercise.

Lol GI. Do you eat all your foods in a fasted state and isocalorically?

I can't decide if I love you or tigers more.

weathergirl320

What if whole wheat bread was no better and possibly worse then white bread?

Right on. People think whole wheat means their food is a miraculous calorie free nutrient dense super food. Whole wheat doesn't mean jack as far as it being "healthier"

And BTW I freaking love mayo and i make my own and eat it all the time and lost 47 lbs eating lots of mayo.

3dogsrunning

What if whole wheat bread was no better and possibly worse then white bread?

Right on. People think whole wheat means their food is a miraculous calorie free nutrient dense super food. Whole wheat doesn't mean jack as far as it being "healthier"

And BTW I freaking love mayo and i make my own and eat it all the time and lost 47 lbs eating lots of mayo.

It doesn't?

Acg67

Bohn T, et al. Phytic acid added to white-wheat bread inhibits fractional apparent magnesium absorption in humans. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, March 2004

www.ajcn.org/content/79/3/418.full.pdf

Reinhold JG, et al. Decreased absorption of calcium, magnesium, zinc and phosphorus by humans due to increased fiber and phosphorus consumption as wheat bread. Journal of Nutrition, Apr, 1976

jn.nutrition.org/content/106/4/493.full.pdf

epmck11

What is it about the American lifestyle and way of eating that make it No. 1 in obesity stats?

two words for ya: industrial revolution.

Uhh... Yeah, because the U.S. is the only country to have gone through an industrial revolution, huh? Besides, the obesity problem really came after the U.S. de-industrialized, not during its industrialization. I have no idea where you were going with that point.

tsh0ck

What is it about the American lifestyle and way of eating that make it No. 1 in obesity stats?

two words for ya: industrial revolution.

Uhh... Yeah, because the U.S. is the only country to have gone through an industrial revolution, huh? Besides, the obesity problem really came after the U.S. de-industrialized, not during its industrialization. I have no idea where you were going with that point.

pretty clear, isn't it? as the country became more industrialized -- meaning less physical labor required to complete jobs -- it also became more sedentary. and, obviously, the U.S. isn't the only industrialized nation. look at the most obese countries. they are those that are most reliant on technology. that's why there is an increase in obesity in the developing countries. they are now seeing the effects of an inactive lifestyle combined with calorie-dense diets.

the U.S. used to be something like 90 percent farmers. it's down to, what, 2 percent now? where did those 88 percent go? desk jobs. how do they get to those desk jobs? cars. what do they do when they get home from those desk jobs? watch TV.

(and those farmers and ranchers -- the group that used to be the majority -- they have to eat way more than any of us do in order to simply maintain weight. 3,000 calories plus a day. because they are actively burning that off. so the problem comes in when we all eat like we're still farmers or ranchers instead of sedentary office workers.)

the biggest reason for obesity isn't what people are eating. it is how little they are moving. we used to have to move in order to survive. that isn't the case now.

shellebelle87

Every country has SOME bad eating habits. Don't fool youself. Did you know that many Canadians' condiment of choice for french fries is GRAVY?! They serve that option in most restaurants there that offer french fries. I had never heard such a thing before we started vacationing there once a year (from childhood on.)

we have that here in NJ. Disco fries. yuck

I'm eating french fries and gravy right this second...how it is yuck?! It's amazing!! Although incredibly unhealthy

delaney056

that is true, about the gi with white vs wheat. when my mom was diagnosed with diabetes, they advised her to cut down on carbs, and count the carbs she does have, and when she has bread or pasta, go for wheat and not white, same with rice. Why wouldn't wheat be healthier anyway, white is processed.

uhh ... wheat is processed, too.

Wheat is processed, but only so much. Wheat and whole grain products have more nutritional value than white products.