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BeckaT79

To all of the people out there throwing out The Bible I just have a couple things to say. First is Love Thy Neighbor! I also want to point out that in The Bible it states that your body is a temple and you are supposed to take care of it and yet look at where you are... You are on a fitness website because you were gluttonous and became somewhat overweight or obese. Some of you probably even smoke, drink, starve yourselves to become thinner, steal, swear, say the Lords name in vain or worse. But hey Guess what we are forgiven even though we suck as a human race. Stop passing out judgement and learn to love the world. Get off your high horses for one moment and realize that no one is perfect but God! Thanks :-)

ElizabethRoad

You didn't quite understand the previous comment before you got on your...Gigantic SOAP BOX......The comment was referring to the child of same sex parents becoming subject to teasing and abuse from other children....and let's be real...Bulling is a age old problem that ALL children will encounter at some point in their childhood....wether its being too fat,skinny,light dark,short,tall, freckles,glasses you name it some kid will encounter that type of peer abuse...why would anyone want to add GAY Parents to the list...beats me....If you want a child...get It the way it was intended....by copulation beteween a MAN & WOMAN.

I'm curious. How do you think gay people get children, exactly?

MissFit0101

It clearly say not bible related.

I'm anti, because is not natural. In the animal kingdom you need a female and a male to procreate, this is as I said not bible related.

The fact of having 'hybrids' animals doesn't mean those are homosexual, because that's the way they are, not males, not females.

I dislike when humans want to do whatever they want regardless of mother nature showing all around how it's supposed to be. not HUMAN rules of any kind, but just the wise mother nature...

I don't hate homosexual regardless, I just disagree it's non nature related meaning, but I let people be as long as they let me be too.

It's as much honest as i can get, so if you re gay out there, i don;t hate you or anything, i just don't like it, but I respect it.

Oh and since minorities always complain people must understand their postures, make marches and become victims, same for them, if they say they are fighting to be accepted, why don;t they make an example and accept not being accepted? Minorities or majorities way is not the rule where everyone must change to . We are all so different so just accept each other point of view.

So, what of straight people who have sex for enjoyment and not for procreation purposes?

dougt333

Question?
There's plenty of derogitory names for gay people, but are there any for straight people?
Think about it.

Actually there are, but I will spare you the drivel. It is hateful to call people names. Period.

boring..hey what the hell is lgbt

Abells

As for me, I do think you are born gay or straight. Just like I think you are born a killer, rapist, child molester or what have you.

I know you don't mean it that way but that's incredibly offensive.

I disagree -- there can be traumatic experiences in life that change your mindset and can change your character and well-being mentally causing you to become for example a killer, rapist, CM

Lyoung961

I don't think anyone said that. What thread have you been reading?

Darlingir

oh boy...why?

ScubyUK

If anyone wants to know what kind of damage anti-lgbt thinking can do to a family, they should the Lifetime movie "Prayers for Bobby" starring Sigourney Weaver, which is based on the book "Prayers for Bobby: A Mother's Coming to Terms with the Suicide of Her Gay Son", by Leroy F. Aarons, which is itself based on the true story of the life and legacy of Bobby Griffith, a young gay man who killed himself due to his Mother's and Community's homophobia.

Savemyshannon

You didn't quite understand the previous comment before you got on your...Gigantic SOAP BOX......The comment was referring to the child of same sex parents becoming subject to teasing and abuse from other children....and let's be real...Bulling is a age old problem that ALL children will encounter at some point in their childhood....wether its being too fat,skinny,light dark,short,tall, freckles,glasses you name it some kid will encounter that type of peer abuse...why would anyone want to add GAY Parents to the list...beats me....If you want a child...get It the way it was intended....by copulation beteween a MAN & WOMAN.

Right, so gay people shouldn't have children because THAT kid was raised that it was ok to bully gay people. That's stupid logic. 60 years ago, a black kid would have been picked on in school, too. How did we remedy that? Did we just stop sending black children to school? NO, the norms of society changed. If we change the norms of society and teach our kids to tolerate different lifestyles (instead of raising them in hate like we do now) then it won't even be an issue.

Also, you can only have kids 'the natural way'? what about a straight couple pursuing adoption? In vitro? Surrogacy?

Shelbert79

I took this statement off of a friend's status update and would really like some answers. I'm not trying to start a war but am interested to see what people will say..so here goes; "If you are anti-gay I want to know why, other than, "it's in the Bible"?

it can also harm the norm of a family where a child is raised by either two men or two women... the amount of abuse that child could receive is unfair, and it is hard for any child to not have a balance of having both a mom and a dad... just an honest answer.

I was going to stay out of this topic because I accept that you just cannot change a persons mind, especially on a forum, but this comment made my knee jerk so hard I practically gave myself a black eye. There is NO EVIDENCE whatsoever to prove that a child of a gay couple is more susceptible to abuse than a child of a straight couple. And as someone who has, briefly, worked in the child care field I can tell you that I saw PLENTY of straight people abusing their children.

Also, let's remember that any old straight couple could have a kid: a single one night stand and oops! She's pregnant and he's pissed and she knows her parents will kick her out if she comes home with a baby so now there's a child born into this world who gets left in a box at a fire station. Meanwhile, that gay couple who has been together for 17 years has put in another application to adopt and has been denied.

I'm not saying that ALL straight couples are bad parents and that ALL gay couples are good parents. What I'm saying is: there are good and bad parents of ALL orientations and being a good parent has nothing to do with what you do in the bedroom and EVERYTHING to do with how you treat your children.

Also, the 'balance' idea is complete BS. This is 2012, there are plenty of good, well-adjusted kids being raised in single-parent households nowadays (raises hand) and if one woman can do it by herself, then 2 men or 2 women can do just as good a job.

I couldn't have said it better!

AJ_Pete

It clearly say not bible related.

I'm anti, because is not natural. In the animal kingdom you need a female and a male to procreate, this is as I said not bible related.

The fact of having 'hybrids' animals doesn't mean those are homosexual, because that's the way they are, not males, not females.

I dislike when humans want to do whatever they want regardless of mother nature showing all around how it's supposed to be. not HUMAN rules of any kind, but just the wise mother nature...

I don't hate homosexual regardless, I just disagree it's non nature related meaning, but I let people be as long as they let me be too.

It's as much honest as i can get, so if you re gay out there, i don;t hate you or anything, i just don't like it, but I respect it.

Oh and since minorities always complain people must understand their postures, make marches and become victims, same for them, if they say they are fighting to be accepted, why don;t they make an example and accept not being accepted? Minorities or majorities way is not the rule where everyone must change to . We are all so different so just accept each other point of view.

So, what of straight people who have sex for enjoyment and not for procreation purposes?

Agreed. OR the straight people who procreate and then abandon their child?

rgrewall

Seriously? this is a fitness website. Use it for what it's made for. geez. FYI, pro-gay.

DaBossLady24

Bumping this because this topic always fascinates me... for multiple reasons.

lizzybethclaire

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dougt333

I base my views entirely on Soul music.. songs like "When a Man Loves a Woman."
and "Watch Where You Stroke."

RoosMommy01

If anyone wants to know what kind of damage anti-lgbt thinking can do to a family, they should the Lifetime movie "Prayers for Bobby" starring Sigourney Weaver, which is based on the book "Prayers for Bobby: A Mother's Coming to Terms with the Suicide of Her Gay Son", by Leroy F. Aarons, which is itself based on the true story of the life and legacy of Bobby Griffith, a young gay man who killed himself due to his Mother's and Community's homophobia.

I saw that movie!! Soooooooooooo good and I cried. That was very sad.

bikermike5094

" I dont understand how a guy can lay on the beach and look at another guys hairy azz and say, Oh yeah! I gotta have that. I aint leaving the beach until I see him!! --- Andrew Dice Clay

ElizabethRoad

As for me, I do think you are born gay or straight. Just like I think you are born a killer, rapist, child molester or what have you.

I know you don't mean it that way but that's incredibly offensive.

How so?

Comparing someone's sexuality to being a violent criminal doesn't seem offensive to you? OK... You're comparing sexuality to some things that I think we can all agree are morally wrong. Being gay is not a crime and it doesn't hurt people, like murder and rape obviously do.

Secondly you are saying that murderers, rapists, and child molesters can't help themselves. In that case they shouldn't be held responsible for their actions. Hey, that guy isn't bad; he didn't WANT to beat someone to death, he had no choice!

casnic25

getfine2015

I'm anti, because is not natural. In the animal kingdom you need a female and a male to procreate, this is as I said not bible related.

The fact of having 'hybrids' animals doesn't mean those are homosexual, because that's the way they are, not males, not females.

Homosexuality and bisexuality are prevalent among non-human animals. We aren't talking about some kind of "hybrid" animals. I mean fully male animals have sex with male animals.

If sexuality were strictly for procreation, your point of view would make perfect sense. But that's not the case, and I'm sure you know that.

Oh and since minorities always complain people must understand their postures, make marches and become victims, same for them, if they say they are fighting to be accepted, why don;t they make an example and accept not being accepted?

That is just a ridiculous suggestion. Minorities should just accept that their rights are trampled on?

That's thebiggest bunch of CRAP!!! I have ever Read!!!!.....But for your information( Minorities as you called us)...have long ago accepted not being accepted....we do understand that we will always have to work 100 times as hard to attain the same things that (NON MINORITIES) have offered up on a silver platter to them...But please lets not make this a MINORITY / NONMINORITY issue cause thats when it Gets UGLY....

RoosMommy01

As for me, I do think you are born gay or straight. Just like I think you are born a killer, rapist, child molester or what have you.

I know you don't mean it that way but that's incredibly offensive.

I disagree -- there can be traumatic experiences in life that change your mindset and can change your character and well-being mentally causing you to become for example a killer, rapist, CM

I can agree with that to a certain extent. Yeah if someone ever touched my child or did anything to harm him then yes I could easily kill them without batting an eyelash. However I don't see what could possibly happen in your life that could cause you to rape someone else or something crazy like that.

bigdawg025

It shouldn't turn into a war....

If you are anti - everything - thats your choice and thats how you believe and very strong minded, doesn't make them a bad person for feeling that way - as long as not the type of person to bully another ..

However we are in a weight forum.. and the topic of your reply was 'you wasnt born that way'

How was we all born? was we born fat? skinny? addicted to food?

I believe in life we make choices to suit who we are,

think of fancying the opposite sex to you theres things you like and dont like, somw guys like curvy women, some men like very slim women all different shapes and sizes, some people fancy another race from themselfs etc.
what about if your 'type' just isnt the opposite sex? you can't help who you fall in love with.

I had a very straight friend, and her and her best female friends had loads in common, got on brilliantly and after broken relationships they stuck by eachother and they fell in love! it happens

Love makes world go round gotta love x

This ^^^^ would absolutely make one lean toward the side of the argument for sexual preference being a choice without a doubt...

However... I'm on the fence as to whether one is born that way or not... because there are definitely OBVIOUS (sometimes) differences in how a gay man or woman walks, talks, dresses, etc. It can certainly be possible that it's because of the amount of said hormone in one's body (testosterone or estrogen, specifically).

Either way... to each his or her own... and I do hope that the rights are afforded to gay couples someday just as they are to those of us who are straight.

iWaffle

My thought is... and maybe I'm wrong, but I believe that people who are anti-gay struggle with their own sexuality.

Sure, and I think Russian Roulette is unhealthy because I secretly want to play it with all my heart. I'm against walking across the Interstate 35 blindfolded so I suppose I have a secret burning desire to do this that I barely keep suppressed.

I don't have to "hate" or be some sort of "homophobic" person to think it's an unhealthy lifestyle. If homosexuals can't help the way they feel and are "born that way" then what's the problem with people who are born thinking it's slightly disgusting for two men to .... well you know? Perhaps they can't help it or do the only feelings or natural reactions that matter come from the pro-group?

Two willing adults can do whatever they desire. I don't picket against gay marriage but don't expect me to care or carry that burden for them. I don't see any need for me to defend their sexual choices.

rob1976

I'm anti, because is not natural. In the animal kingdom you need a female and a male to procreate, this is as I said not bible related.

The fact of having 'hybrids' animals doesn't mean those are homosexual, because that's the way they are, not males, not females.

I dislike when humans want to do whatever they want regardless of mother nature showing all around how it's supposed to be. not HUMAN rules of any kind, but just the wise mother nature...

I don't hate homosexual regardless, I just disagree it's non nature related meaning, but I let people be as long as they let me be too.

It's as much honest as i can get, so if you re gay out there, i don;t hate you or anything, i just don't like it, but I respect it.

Oh and since minorities always complain people must understand their postures, make marches and become victims, same for them, if they say they are fighting to be accepted, why don;t they make an example and accept not being accepted? Minorities or majorities way is not the rule where everyone must change to . We are all so different so just accept each other point of view.

Again, you are incorrect. Homosexuality and bisexuality are found in nature in over 1500 different species.

ErinBeth7

To all of the people out there throwing out The Bible I just have a couple things to say. First is Love Thy Neighbor! I also want to point out that in The Bible it states that your body is a temple and you are supposed to take care of it and yet look at where you are... You are on a fitness website because you were gluttonous and became somewhat overweight or obese. Some of you probably even smoke, drink, starve yourselves to become thinner, steal, swear, say the Lords name in vain or worse. But hey Guess what we are forgiven even though we suck as a human race. Stop passing out judgement and learn to love the world. Get off your high horses for one moment and realize that no one is perfect but God! Thanks :-)

This is a big reason why christianity gets labeled a hypocrite. Instead of reaching out, showing what God can do, you get preached at for our "sinful" actions and told what not to do. Everything we've been doing in our lives is "gluttonous" or "greedy" etc.

I grew up going to Church, I read out of the bible every Sunday, I know what it says. Whether I chose to believe it is another. Labeling us all for our actions according to your religion is not spreading the word of God.

RoosMommy01

Seriously? this is a fitness website. Use it for what it's made for. geez. FYI, pro-gay.

We aren't in the weight loss section though. :happy: This is chit-chat, fun and games.

75Juniper

To all of the people out there throwing out The Bible I just have a couple things to say. First is Love Thy Neighbor! I also want to point out that in The Bible it states that your body is a temple and you are supposed to take care of it and yet look at where you are... You are on a fitness website because you were gluttonous and became somewhat overweight or obese. Some of you probably even smoke, drink, starve yourselves to become thinner, steal, swear, say the Lords name in vain or worse. But hey Guess what we are forgiven even though we suck as a human race. Stop passing out judgement and learn to love the world. Get off your high horses for one moment and realize that no one is perfect but God! Thanks :-)

We're not all on a high horse.

casnic25

Ok personally it's not welcome in my life. If others want to do it, then I couldn't give a single *kitten*. I believe in the bible but I don't go around coining up phrases like anti-muslim, anti-catholic, or other stuff just because people believe and act different than me.

THANK YOU!!!! I feel the same way. I have gay family members .... but we don't hang out or talk daily and when they do come around....I love them the more..Just don't approve of their lifestyle...same thing if they were a pimp or prostitute, gang-banger or drug dealer...I choose to love the sinner but hate the sin and there's nothing wrong with that. Its the same way you choose your friends...just because you choose not to hang out with a certain crowd doesn't mean you are ANTI-anything....

How can you compare loving someone to being a pimp, prostitute, gang-banger, or drug dealer? Last time I checked gluttony was considered a sin. There is so many things that are sins, but loving is not a sin.

ElizabethRoad

Seriously? this is a fitness website. Use it for what it's made for. geez. FYI, pro-gay.

This is the Chit-chat forum. This is what it's made for.

dougt333

Seriously? this is a fitness website. Use it for what it's made for. geez. FYI, pro-gay.

We aren't in the weight loss section though. :happy: This is chit-chat, fun and games.

I hope nobody minds that I'm focusing on the fun part.