Do you think there's a masculinity crisis in America?
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Ummm, guys are wearing skinny jeans <-- Yes, there is a crisis!0
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I don't think it is a crisis. the only thing i'm noticing is men getting lazier and lazier. My sister has 2 kids works 2 jobs and her husbands stays home and plays video games. My 2 best friend both have kids and jobs but there husband/boyfriend stay home and do nothing.
My guy used to work but he quit, now I work 3 jobs and he plays video games. Why would I clean his house and make him a sandwich? If guys want to stay at home they need to learn the proper roll of a stay at home mom/wife/girlfriend. Clean, take care of kids, cook meals, grocery shop and take care of there girl.
If my guy worked and could pay all the bills I would stay at home and do everything for him, I have no problem with that. If he wants to act like a house wife, I'll treat him like a house wife.
And that my friend is the crisis. Men are being replaced by wimps who don't stick around for their families. They want to make excuses rather than work. They want to screw around on their wives, and hold no morals. They want to let not just their wives, but even their children boss them around. I'll agree that whole man wears the pants and women stay in the kitchen thing is an old mentality that should die. But not because men are too lazy to lead their families and earn a respectable living. It should be because men respect their wives as leaders as well.
Yep, just like my sons father. Out there creating MULTIPLE children but then begging them not to take him for child support . I'm the ONE who did- and he complained that the 60 a month would put him behind - and told me I was being shady. Some men are such winners!0 -
Ummm, guys are wearing skinny jeans <-- Yes, there is a crisis!
AMEN!!!0 -
Honestly: Do you think there's a masculinity crisis in America? Are more men allowing women to dominate relationships?
Says the man who was deleted from my FL because he whined all day long and said things just to make the ladies either swoon or feel bad for him? Intentional or not, it's not very masculine to cry for attention.
I dated him and he is a great guy so you dont know what you are talking about. Women swoon over him because he is hot, honest, successful, and a real man. I am sure he does not miss you. It is stupid and immature for attacking people for stating an opinion that is different than yours. He was just asking a question and I am one female who agrees with him. Men are way too girly for my taste. I like a real man, not a man who I may have to worry about leaving him alone at my place and he might try on my clothes.
You're not dating him anymore...now are you? Sooooo STFU0 -
Pretty sure an individual's feeling of masculinity does not constitute a "crisis" in my world
Or does that answer the question more than I intended?
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Not when I'm watching Shemar Moore on the Ellen show! That man is just too hot for words!0
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Honestly: Do you think there's a masculinity crisis in America? Are more men allowing women to dominate relationships?
Says the man who was deleted from my FL because he whined all day long and said things just to make the ladies either swoon or feel bad for him? Intentional or not, it's not very masculine to cry for attention.
I dated him and he is a great guy so you dont know what you are talking about. Women swoon over him because he is hot, honest, successful, and a real man. I am sure he does not miss you. It is stupid and immature for attacking people for stating an opinion that is different than yours. He was just asking a question and I am one female who agrees with him. Men are way too girly for my taste. I like a real man, not a man who I may have to worry about leaving him alone at my place and he might try on my clothes.
lol & i'm sure she is HEARTBROKEN over him not missing her. /Please note HEAVY sarcasm.0 -
Not when I'm watching Shemar Moore on the Ellen show! That man is just too hot for words!
YOU'RE A GIRL after my own heart. I LOVE LOVE LOVE HIM. Ever since motive!0 -
Masculinity declined when men stopped being gentlemen.
My boys are being raised to be gentlemen and treat women with respect as equals. Not dominate them!
I'd say you're doing parenting right!
Thats how I intend to raise my boys (if I have boys) when I become a father.
I worry if I have girls though, I dont want to cross the 'spoil them rotten' line. I've been told that its easy to spoil daughters with goodies, havent had kids though, so I dont know for myself.0 -
When I watch bachelor pad I really think its a problem. Wow!0
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After reading a guys post from yesterday "needing advice not related to fitness" I I would say yes. This was a 30 yr old man asking for advice on how to get himself to love again and how he doesn't know if he'll ever find it again.
I wanted to pull his man card............yes there is a masculinity crisis! Grow a pair and start acting like men again. Sweep a woman off her feet...........treat her like a queen............and reap the rewards!!! There's a few details to work in the middle too but c'mon guy's!!!!
This!!0 -
When I watch bachelor pad I really think its a problem. Wow!
LOL !! That's because they're all sissys.0 -
Yes there is a crisis, but it has nothing to do with pink shirts, fruity drinks, or men being domineering. People equate being a manly man with being a womanizer or a wife beater now days and it's just not true.
A real man does what's right no matter what it costs him. A real man stands up for those who are weaker than him. A real man provides for his family. A real man loves sacrificially. A real man is not afraid of things that may be considered "girly", but neither is he obsessed with being "girly". A real man loves ONE woman, he does NOT "spread his seed". A real man treats his woman like a queen. A real man takes the lead in the relationship, but never dominates or abuses.
There is also a crisis of women acting too masculine.
A real woman does not bully her man or manipulate him. A real woman embraces her femininity. A real woman wears dresses, makeup, and pretty shoes when appropriate ( to do otherwise is not "self expression" it is disrespect). A real woman is not afraid to let her man take care of her the way he should. A real woman doesn't sleep around and try men on for size. A real woman is modest. A real woman treats men with respect. A real woman is not a door mat, she does not let everyone walk all over her, but neither does she walk over others.0 -
Depends on how you define masculinity?
Ordering someone to do something you could have just easily done(sandwich?) ... sitting in the woods somewhere holding a shotgun in one hand and a beer can in the other?.... peeing standing up? ... tearing apart a Dodge Ram, and rebuilding it? ... listening to AC/DC, Korn, Johnny Cash, Toby Keith, Who ever sings "Paint it black"?.... Or reading Field and Stream, Playboy, or Motorhead
Not my definition...
Being courageous, honest, and choosing to stand your ground; when the world stands against you. Being respectful to your spouse, elders, and even your in-laws. Taking responsibility in your failures, and those of your children. Taking the time to teach, instead of watch the football game. And finally, being willing to defend those you love with your life....
That is my definition of manly.....0 -
Honestly: Do you think there's a masculinity crisis in America? Are more men allowing women to dominate relationships?
I think the operative word here is "allowing". In a healthy relationship neither partner dominates the other.0 -
I blame plastic playground equipment. You're not a real man until you've gone down a metal slide in the middle of summer in Phoenix.
LIKE!0 -
We just all stopped letting men have the credit for the ideas that we put in their heads and made happen.........0
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awwwwwwwww he deactivated his account !!! LOL
you know what isn't manly?
running away.
back to a real response to a real question - i think everyone has a hard time anymore because there aren't any standard roles for men or women. I don't think that's a bad thing. We see it here every day with questions like these. Men pay vs not pay. Women preferences in terms of sex or "bread winning," and other aspects of a relationship.
What's good about this is variety. No longer are people forced into a role they are not comfortable with. They are encouraged to be themselves, and if that means a man wants to carry a bag, or a woman wants to smoke a cigar, then, eff it - just go ahead. Because for every person that doesn't find that attractive or appealing, there is someone who does.
the "good ol' days" are overly sensationalized, and romanticized.0 -
Meh.
Is there a masculinity crisis?
My take is, we get the people that we, as a society groom and earn. Yes, I know, I'm missing a golden opportunity to pander to the women with a tear-jerking commentary on "being a gentleman" or "romancing her" or some other such schtick. But like it or not, you can't look at one gender in isolation, we tend to work symbiotically.
Men, just like women are simply responding to the demands and expectations that are put out for them. All things masculinity are typically treated as gross, pervy, predatory or oppressive, that is....until they're not. Then we start crying about the lack of the 'real men'. Meanwhile, we're stuck with a bunch of guys trying to reconcile how all of the things that they were told was distasteful and bad are now needed since someone wants their furniture moved.0 -
Don't you have some woman to make a sandwich for?
know your place!
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What's a man now - what's a man mean
Is he rough or is he rugged
Is he cultural and clean
Now it's all change - it's got to change more
'cause we think it's getting better
But nobody's really sure0 -
Yes there is a crisis, but it has nothing to do with pink shirts, fruity drinks, or men being domineering. People equate being a manly man with being a womanizer or a wife beater now days and it's just not true.
A real man does what's right no matter what it costs him. A real man stands up for those who are weaker than him. A real man provides for his family. A real man loves sacrificially. A real man is not afraid of things that may be considered "girly", but neither is he obsessed with being "girly". A real man loves ONE woman, he does NOT "spread his seed". A real man treats his woman like a queen. A real man takes the lead in the relationship, but never dominates or abuses.
There is also a crisis of women acting too masculine.
A real woman does not bully her man or manipulate him. A real woman embraces her femininity. A real woman wears dresses, makeup, and pretty shoes when appropriate ( to do otherwise is not "self expression" it is disrespect). A real woman is not afraid to let her man take care of her the way he should. A real woman doesn't sleep around and try men on for size. A real woman is modest. A real woman treats men with respect. A real woman is not a door mat, she does not let everyone walk all over her, but neither does she walk over others.
Umm... excuse me?
All men are real regardless of how they act and dress. All women are real regardless of how they dress and act.
But thanks, I didn't realize I had to dress a certain way and let a man take care of me in order to be a real woman. :noway:0 -
What is a masculinity crisis, anyway? What is a "real" man? I mean, wouldn't a "fake" man be a chick with stick-on facial hair or something? I'm so confused.0
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We need no more proof than skinny jeans.0
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Honestly: Do you think there's a masculinity crisis in America? Are more men allowing women to dominate relationships?
Says the man who was deleted from my FL because he whined all day long and said things just to make the ladies either swoon or feel bad for him? Intentional or not, it's not very masculine to cry for attention.
Men are way too girly for my taste. I like a real man, not a man who I may have to worry about leaving him alone at my place and he might try on my clothes.
Dude. Again, eating salad =/= trying on women's clothes in private.
Where are you finding all of these super girly men?0 -
Yes there is a crisis, but it has nothing to do with pink shirts, fruity drinks, or men being domineering. People equate being a manly man with being a womanizer or a wife beater now days and it's just not true.
A real man does what's right no matter what it costs him. A real man stands up for those who are weaker than him. A real man provides for his family. A real man loves sacrificially. A real man is not afraid of things that may be considered "girly", but neither is he obsessed with being "girly". A real man loves ONE woman, he does NOT "spread his seed". A real man treats his woman like a queen. A real man takes the lead in the relationship, but never dominates or abuses.
There is also a crisis of women acting too masculine.
A real woman does not bully her man or manipulate him. A real woman embraces her femininity. A real woman wears dresses, makeup, and pretty shoes when appropriate ( to do otherwise is not "self expression" it is disrespect). A real woman is not afraid to let her man take care of her the way he should. A real woman doesn't sleep around and try men on for size. A real woman is modest. A real woman treats men with respect. A real woman is not a door mat, she does not let everyone walk all over her, but neither does she walk over others.
You are the epitome of what a woman should be (my opinion), and have the image of who I should be of a man down perfectly (my opinion). Props to your parents and you for following it!0 -
Meh.
Is there a masculinity crisis?
My take is, we get the people that we, as a society groom and earn. Yes, I know, I'm missing a golden opportunity to pander to the women with a tear-jerking commentary on "being a gentleman" or "romancing her" or some other such schtick. But like it or not, you can't look at one gender in isolation, we tend to work symbiotically.
Men, just like women are simply responding to the demands and expectations that are put out for them. All things masculinity are typically treated as gross, pervy, predatory or oppressive, that is....until they're not. Then we start crying about the lack of the 'real men'. Meanwhile, we're stuck with a bunch of guys trying to reconcile how all of the things that they were told was distasteful and bad are now needed since someone wants their furniture moved.
I like men that can move my furniture.0 -
Neither person should "dominate" the relationship. It's not masculine for a man to dominate his partner. It's not a matter of manliness; it's a matter of mutual respect. Someone who insists on having their way no matter what their partner wants and being unquestioned in the process is someone who's not mature enough to handle a healthy relationship, regardless of their sex.
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Yes there is a crisis, but it has nothing to do with pink shirts, fruity drinks, or men being domineering. People equate being a manly man with being a womanizer or a wife beater now days and it's just not true.
A real man does what's right no matter what it costs him. A real man stands up for those who are weaker than him. A real man provides for his family. A real man loves sacrificially. A real man is not afraid of things that may be considered "girly", but neither is he obsessed with being "girly". A real man loves ONE woman, he does NOT "spread his seed". A real man treats his woman like a queen. A real man takes the lead in the relationship, but never dominates or abuses.
There is also a crisis of women acting too masculine.
A real woman does not bully her man or manipulate him. A real woman embraces her femininity. A real woman wears dresses, makeup, and pretty shoes when appropriate ( to do otherwise is not "self expression" it is disrespect). A real woman is not afraid to let her man take care of her the way he should. A real woman doesn't sleep around and try men on for size. A real woman is modest. A real woman treats men with respect. A real woman is not a door mat, she does not let everyone walk all over her, but neither does she walk over others.
I guess my aversion to makeup and itchy eyes makes me not a real woman. Who knew.0 -
Who exactly is disrespected by someone not wearing "dresses and pretty shoes?"A real woman embraces her femininity. A real woman wears dresses, makeup, and pretty shoes when appropriate ( to do otherwise is not "self expression" it is disrespect).0
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