Do you think there's a masculinity crisis in America?

Chipmaniac

No. Next question.

chlorisaann

I think women have always been running the show pretty much, its really nothing new, we are just subtle creatures!

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^^^ THIS!!!

majikmiker

We rule. :devil:

The dawn of realization that this statement above is true.....

:bigsmile: :ohwell: :huh: :frown: :frown: :sick:


I think being a man is about character, and less about the type of job you do or how you dress or look. I think there are questions about people's integrity and character in today's society, so it seems like manliness is on the decline. If you look at some of the iconic masculine figures in TV and film, and they are cowboys, firemen, mob figures. Each one has an image, but it's more about their character and integrity. The cowboy is stoic and chivalirous, the policeman is brave and just, the mob guys take care of their own, the firemen put their lives on the line for others.

But hey, I cry during chick flicks and during Extreme Makeover: Weightloss edition so...........:drinker: :bigsmile:

tldust

Depends on your definition of masculinity. So it's okay for a man to dominate a relationship? Isn't that chauvinism? I think perhaps men are having an identity crisis when comes to their roles in relationships, because the traditional male and female roles have changed as well as how men and women relate to each other. I thought relationships were based on mutuality and respect--not domination. I'm just saying.

sweetchildomine

These are the guys that young girls think are hot these days...








lol does that answer your question?

Rayand22

Dated... past tense. So you saw his feed then? Complaining about hipsters and this person and that person and ALWAYS posting drunk, right? Great catch.

What's wrong with complaining about hipsters? They mock everything else so they're fair game for mockery.

"I can take my shoes off if I want to. I'm the mayor of the coffee shop on FourSquare."



Photo and caption courtesy http://www.lookatthis****inghipster.tumblr.com/

This is what the original poster is talking about. I know it is trendy and people in general are followers but honestly, these type of guys are everywhere and personally for me, I think they are gross, girly, and annoying cause they are always trying to fight, mock, or lecture others about what they look like, eat, and shop. Hipsters attack everyone so whats wrong with attacking them back. I also agree with the guy who said men should have rough hands and stand up for what they believe. I hang out with mostly guys and they are real men, take these hipsters and my friends in the wilderness and lost, see who survives.

whierd

Depends on your definition of masculinity. So it's okay for a man to dominate a relationship? Isn't that chauvinism? I think perhaps men are having an identity crisis when comes to their roles in relationships, because the traditional male and female roles have changed as well as how men and women relate to each other. I thought relationships were based on mutuality and respect--not domination. I'm just saying.

I think you're incredibly mistaken about what masculinity is.


I'll keep it in simple terms. Being masculine is embracing what it is to be a man and all roles and responsibilities required of you for being a man.

Chipmaniac

These are the guys that young girls think are hot these days...








lol does that answer your question?

Yeah...cause these guys are sooooooo masculine:



...and your grandparents generation:

jsabet

Only when I'm traveling in Europe.

oregonzoo

How old is a person really still using the term "hipster"?
Freaking people are people let them be who they are.


Real men and real women don't spend a lot of time worrying about other freaking people and what they wear, say or do.

Rayand22

These are the guys that young girls think are hot these days...








lol does that answer your question?

Yeah...cause these guys are sooooooo masculine:



...and your grandparents generation:

The difference is that yeah girls loved those guys back in the day but most men didnt try to act and dress like them. Men hated boy groups back then and now men love boy groups. Its not the same.

whierd

Real men and real women don't spend a lot of time worrying about other freaking people and what they wear, say or do.

You're right.

dougt333

To quote my fiance back when I met her.
"A real man doesn't shave his chest hair to show off his muscles. His muscles are big enough for me to see them anyway."
I am marrying this woman.

Treesy72

OP deactivated his account lol

Chipmaniac

These are the guys that young girls think are hot these days...








lol does that answer your question?

Yeah...cause these guys are sooooooo masculine:



...and your grandparents generation:

The difference is that yeah girls loved those guys back in the day but most men didnt try to act and dress like them. Men hated boy groups back then and now men love boy groups. Its not the same.

Men don't love boy groups. Your argument is based on a false premise.

Rayand22

How old is a person really still using the term "hipster"?
Freaking people are people let them be who they are.


Real men and real women don't spend a lot of time worrying about other freaking people and what they wear, say or do.

Then tell hipsters to quit attacking others and leave others alone and then maybe we will leave them alone. I take it that you must be one. You obviously care because you have been on this thread commenting and attacking since it was posted so get off your high horse and stop attacking others when you are doing the exact same thing.

dougt333

If a dude uses the word fabulous, he should just throw in the towel on his manhood, change his name to Lucy, and rent some property on fire island.

whierd

Men don't love boy groups. Your argument is based on a false premise.

But I would argue that they often try to imitate them. Not boy groups per say, but prominent male figures in pop culture.

drea85an

Oh, you mean men actually being fathers and helping out with making dinner, and women having careers? That IS manliness. I think the chest waxing and clothing choices are little to do with manliness, and more to do with style or immaturity.

ARDuBaie

I don't think there is a masculinity problem in America. I think there is an maturity problem.

Josie_lifting_cats

You know, I didn't read all the replies, but here's my answer:

My husband is masculine. No doubt. But I'm the boss. Pure and simple.

Until we get into the bedroom. Then he's the boss, and he damn well be a good, hard boss.

Wait, what?

fteale

I would say the crisis in the States, from what I have seen (mostly on here, admittedly, but I have been over there a few times as well) is that there is too much emphasis on masculinity in the US. You all seem obsessed with things being bigger - muscles, cars, food, buildings - than anywhere else (a very male trait!), I find the bodybuilding culture you seem to have quite weird. And the fact that strip clubs etc are seen as totally normal. You just don't get that here in the UK.

To us in Europe, you seem like a very misogynistic and male-dominated culture.

whierd

Also, interesting thought. How many "skater bois" suddenly appeared after Avril Lavigne? :laugh:

Rayand22

These are the guys that young girls think are hot these days...








lol does that answer your question?

Yeah...cause these guys are sooooooo masculine:



...and your grandparents generation:

The difference is that yeah girls loved those guys back in the day but most men didnt try to act and dress like them. Men hated boy groups back then and now men love boy groups. Its not the same.

Men don't love boy groups. Your argument is based on a false premise.

I know many who love One Direction, Beiber, Katy Perry, and many more. Men back in the day hated this kind of music.

dougt333

I don't think there is a masculinity problem in America. I think there is an maturity problem.

Agreed, and with both sexes.

flobeedoodle

I'm just going to mosey on in here with my weight loss ticker and hope for the best. (I'll add that the real problem is that there are people who don't consider the concept of a "masculinity crisis" ridiculous.)

LorinaLynn

Neither person should "dominate" the relationship. It's not masculine for a man to dominate his partner. It's not a matter of manliness; it's a matter of mutual respect. Someone who insists on having their way no matter what their partner wants and being unquestioned in the process is someone who's not mature enough to handle a healthy relationship, regardless of their sex.

That kind of sums it up. Relationships are partnerships. Or should be.

Rayand22

Men don't love boy groups. Your argument is based on a false premise.

But I would argue that they often try to imitate them. Not boy groups per say, but prominent male figures in pop culture.

Great answer. That is so true. I do not want a man that I can beat up, I want a man that can protect me and make me feel safe. These hipster guys are just too wimpy.

Chipmaniac

Men don't love boy groups. Your argument is based on a false premise.

But I would argue that they often try to imitate them. Not boy groups per say, but prominent male figures in pop culture.

Um...Who? My oldest son is 15 and he thinks that "One Direction" which is the group in the picture is dumb. He makes fun of boy bands.

Anyway, if girls swoon over boyish lads then a boy who imitates them is not un-masculine, he's smart. He's providing his target market with the product they desire.

AmericanCowboy76

I am a strong believer that the man leads the household but is not the tyrant of the household. A smart man involves is woman in each discision while making the final choice. A smart man honors his woman as part of him. Just my idea. Before my wife passed we were very happy, very in love and this is how our house worked. We had ups and downs but it worked well for us. I was president of the house and she was vicepresident. Now as for the rest. Cant stand this metrosexual crap. Men should be men.