pregnant smokers

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  • aneikacarter
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    Most Medical facilities have a "No smoking campus" which does include the parking lot. In the event that she is in fact just fat, or it is necessary for her and the baby's health to smoke, she will find else where to do it. Preferably not around people who care. I am a smoker, I work in a hospital and when I want to smoke, I have to drive a block down the road. Yea, it sucks, but most days I don't, so all in all it's probably good for me and better for her, if you say something rather than security.
  • 3Daughtersin2015
    3Daughtersin2015 Posts: 81 Member
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    I really wish you had to get a license to have children, and that the stupid people wouldn't reproduce. My heart breaks for the children who have parents that don't give a crap.
  • rob1976
    rob1976 Posts: 1,328 Member
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    Her body. Her baby. Her business.

    Really? What say does the baby get?
    None. It's not a baby until it's born.
  • liss125
    liss125 Posts: 77
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    I dunno.
    I'm not a fan of the "not in my backyard" approach. In my opinion, I feel that is what is wrong with society today. Too many people minded their own business.

    flame away.

    Being overweight is harmful to your health. Should we "flame away" and yell out the window "HEY FATTY" at all the overweight people?

    Where is this invisible line we're drawing??

    I think that smoking and being overweight are different things. An overweight person isn't a public health issue. Smoking is. Smoking not only affects the smoker, but those around them (especially a gestating infant.) I, personally, wouldn't condone name-calling in either case :) Though it is hard for me not to speak up when someone is blatantly stacking the odds against their unborn baby.
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
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    Only trashy people smoke. It didn't used to be that way. Now the only ones left doing it are the loud-mouthed, bleached-blonde, bowling, bus driving bimbos with a raspy voice and leather skin that hang out in bars.

    They also stink, pollute my air, throw their trash on the ground and out the windows, raise our medical costs, ruin cars, ruin their health, other's health, start fires, etc.

    Yeah, I'm bitter and I stereotype today's defensive smokers. My father smoked and he died from it so it's a sensitive subject for me.

    If you smoke, get help and stop! People get off meth, you can get off your filthy cigarettes.

    That is all.

    Wow. Just. Wow.
  • JoolieW68
    JoolieW68 Posts: 1,879 Member
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    Her body. Her baby. Her business.
    How pissed off would you be if you found your mother was a smoker and you ended up with lung problems? Very. Effing. Pissed.

    My mother smoked when she was pregnant with me (in 1968), and I have had allergies and asthma my entire life. Many times she was unable to take me to the ER in the middle of the night during an asthma attack because my father worked 3rd shift and they only had 1 car.

    She carries enormous guilt because of it, but back then there wasn't the knowledge or stigma associated with smoking, especially when pregnant.

    That said, I still probably wouldn't say anything to the girl unless I knew her well enough to discuss medical topics with her.

    I just want to say... (and we are on the same side of this issue) you have to be genetically predisposed to both asthma and allergies. Maybe her smoking while she was pregnant aggravated that issue, but it is more likely than not that it was her continued smoking after you were born that caused the most issues. Fetuses aren't actually exposed to smoke in the womb. They are exposed to the nicotine which might mean the baby could be born with an addiction to it, but nicotine, itself, doesn't have a direct effect on asthma or allergies.

    You make a good point, and both she and my father continued to smoke until I was around 14 or 15. Thanks for your post.
  • 3Daughtersin2015
    3Daughtersin2015 Posts: 81 Member
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    Only trashy people smoke. It didn't used to be that way. Now the only ones left doing it are the loud-mouthed, bleached-blonde, bowling, bus driving bimbos with a raspy voice and leather skin that hang out in bars.

    They also stink, pollute my air, throw their trash on the ground and out the windows, raise our medical costs, ruin cars, ruin their health, other's health, start fires, etc.

    Yeah, I'm bitter and I stereotype today's defensive smokers. My father smoked and he died from it so it's a sensitive subject for me.

    If you smoke, get help and stop! People get off meth, you can get off your filthy cigarettes.

    That is all.

    I'm sorry for your loss. I feel the same way about people. It is so not sexy. I guess you can consider it the only socially acceptable form of suicide.
  • michellekicks
    michellekicks Posts: 3,624 Member
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    I dunno.
    I'm not a fan of the "not in my backyard" approach. In my opinion, I feel that is what is wrong with society today. Too many people minded their own business.

    flame away.

    Being overweight is harmful to your health. Should we "flame away" and yell out the window "HEY FATTY" at all the overweight people?

    Where is this invisible line we're drawing??

    I think that smoking and being overweight are different things. An overweight person isn't a public health issue. Smoking is. Smoking not only affects the smoker, but those around them (especially a gestating infant.) I, personally, wouldn't condone name-calling in either case :) Though it is hard for me not to speak up when someone is blatantly stacking the odds against their unborn baby.

    Overweight people absolutely are a public health issue in countries that have public healthcare... Canada, UK... etc.
  • dandaninc
    dandaninc Posts: 392
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    I smoked for close to 13 years straight.

    My mom was smoking in the hospital when she had me.

    I recently quit last November.

    If I see someone smoking in a non-smoking area I not only get pissed but I tell them. LOUDLY.

    I don't care who they are or if they are pregnant or not.

    I don't care if she is giving herself cancer.

    I care if she is going to give me or my family cancer.

    NO ONE MESSES WITH MY FAMILY

    :grumble:
  • TrinaJ11
    TrinaJ11 Posts: 159 Member
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    As bad as it sounds I would say it's none of your business.

    The only reason you want to say something about the premises being non-smoking is because she's pregnant. Whereas if there was a different person that was not pregnant outside smoking you wouldn't have taken the time to post here and you would not have said anything to the person.
  • pastryari
    pastryari Posts: 8,646 Member
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    Only trashy people smoke. It didn't used to be that way. Now the only ones left doing it are the loud-mouthed, bleached-blonde, bowling, bus driving bimbos with a raspy voice and leather skin that hang out in bars.

    They also stink, pollute my air, throw their trash on the ground and out the windows, raise our medical costs, ruin cars, ruin their health, other's health, start fires, etc.

    Yeah, I'm bitter and I stereotype today's defensive smokers. My father smoked and he died from it so it's a sensitive subject for me.

    If you smoke, get help and stop! People get off meth, you can get off your filthy cigarettes.

    That is all.

    Wow. Bitter doesn't even begin to cover it.
  • GnochhiGnomes
    GnochhiGnomes Posts: 348 Member
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    Her body. Her baby. Her business.

    Really? What say does the baby get?

    Nothing until its born. Unborn babies shouldn't have rights.
  • Panda_1999
    Panda_1999 Posts: 191 Member
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    And how many of you anti-smokers drive cars that spew more junk into the air than any pack of cigs? There is nothing worse than judgmental people who decide how others should live.
  • beckajw
    beckajw Posts: 1,738 Member
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    Smoking while pregnant.....a big FAIL as a Mother. There are seldom any excuses,unless a doctor has told you expressly to keep going and that would be a very rare case indeed.

    A very selfish self serving thing to do....makes me mad, and I think I would say something. Its not her right to damage her yet to be born child as some here may think.

    Why not? It's her right to have an abortion. If she can choose to have the fetus destroyed, why can't she choose what to put in her body while pregnant?

    Also, in Europe smoking and drinking while pregnant is still generally accepted. I wouldn't do it and don't condone it, but a few cigarettes are really unlikely to hurt the baby.
  • mermx
    mermx Posts: 976
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    Only trashy people smoke. It didn't used to be that way. Now the only ones left doing it are the loud-mouthed, bleached-blonde, bowling, bus driving bimbos with a raspy voice and leather skin that hang out in bars.

    They also stink, pollute my air, throw their trash on the ground and out the windows, raise our medical costs, ruin cars, ruin their health, other's health, start fires, etc.

    Yeah, I'm bitter and I stereotype today's defensive smokers. My father smoked and he died from it so it's a sensitive subject for me.

    If you smoke, get help and stop! People get off meth, you can get off your filthy cigarettes.

    That is all.


    And you are perfect because????
  • freckledrats
    freckledrats Posts: 251 Member
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    lulz, I do not wrap my mouth around the muffler and huff while pregnant, so it hardly compares.
  • redhousecat
    redhousecat Posts: 584 Member
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    I dunno.
    I'm not a fan of the "not in my backyard" approach. In my opinion, I feel that is what is wrong with society today. Too many people minded their own business.

    flame away.

    Being overweight is harmful to your health. Should we "flame away" and yell out the window "HEY FATTY" at all the overweight people?

    Where is this invisible line we're drawing??

    good gawd. Just stop and think a minute. one does not have to be a sh1tbag about it....geeezzz. Don't be so defensive.
    Also, in forum speak, flaming is a result of brash and disagreed comments towards the despised comment.


    *LOL* I thought it was an interesting debate, not an immediate digression to sh*tbag. I see I was wrong. We wouldn't have an interesting debate at all.

    ok, let me simplify it.

    I think too many people turn and look the other way.
    One does not have to be a sh1tbag when taking a stand about something. One does not have to tell the smoker, "fatty" or whatever in a negative way. One can use tact. I don't call people names because they smoke, are fat, or whatever. They clearly have a problem. Again, one can use TACT and not be a sh1tbag about it.

    I wasn't trying to debate you. There is nothing to debate. I have no scientific citations to back my opinion. It is strictly my opinion.
  • SuperSexyDork
    SuperSexyDork Posts: 1,669 Member
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    I dunno.
    I'm not a fan of the "not in my backyard" approach. In my opinion, I feel that is what is wrong with society today. Too many people minded their own business.

    flame away.

    Being overweight is harmful to your health. Should we "flame away" and yell out the window "HEY FATTY" at all the overweight people?

    Where is this invisible line we're drawing??

    I think that smoking and being overweight are different things. An overweight person isn't a public health issue. Smoking is. Smoking not only affects the smoker, but those around them (especially a gestating infant.) I, personally, wouldn't condone name-calling in either case :) Though it is hard for me not to speak up when someone is blatantly stacking the odds against their unborn baby.

    Overweight people absolutely are a public health issue in countries that have public healthcare... Canada, UK... etc.

    It's a public health issue everywhere. Obesity affects the taxes that Americans pay as people who are overweight/obese seek medicare/medicaid. Also, it's been scientifically demonstrated that your friends/other people you're around will influence the size that you are.
  • odusgolp
    odusgolp Posts: 10,477 Member
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    I dunno.
    I'm not a fan of the "not in my backyard" approach. In my opinion, I feel that is what is wrong with society today. Too many people minded their own business.

    flame away.

    Being overweight is harmful to your health. Should we "flame away" and yell out the window "HEY FATTY" at all the overweight people?

    Where is this invisible line we're drawing??

    I think that smoking and being overweight are different things. An overweight person isn't a public health issue. Smoking is. Smoking not only affects the smoker, but those around them (especially a gestating infant.) I, personally, wouldn't condone name-calling in either case :) Though it is hard for me not to speak up when someone is blatantly stacking the odds against their unborn baby.

    Valid point (unless we want to mix up extreme obesity and pregnancy... and I for one don't *LOL*). I believe a good chunk of states now also disallow smoking in any public facility... I know in Wisconsin it's no longer legal indoors in nearly every situation I can think of (I don't even think it's allowed in Casinos anymore, but I'm not positive).

    But I'm getting off on a tangent. I think my point was in that seeing someone do something perfectly legal, while you may disagree with it, why would you say something?
  • secretlobster
    secretlobster Posts: 3,566 Member
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    So "only trashy people smoke... Except my dad"?