Lance Armstrong admits to cheating.

AngryDiet

I love how the defenders automatically go to 'those guys accusing him are just mean and lying and trying to get ahead!' To that group ... you realize that some of these guys are admitting they did this stuff right alongside Armstrong, right? They are hitting themselves here. And hincapie is universally liked and respected in cycling. So now just because he tells the truth under oath, he's a lying liar? Come on, now. It comes off like if jesus christ himself were testifying, people would accuse him of being angry that lance was stealing too much of his spotlight or something.

Every single witness in this case is tainted in some way. Especially the legal team

LOL, a regular den of thieves, right? A group to which Armstrong belongs as well.

Laces_0ut

I love how the defenders automatically go to 'those guys accusing him are just mean and lying and trying to get ahead!' To that group ... you realize that some of these guys are admitting they did this stuff right alongside Armstrong, right? They are hitting themselves here. And hincapie is universally liked and respected in cycling. So now just because he tells the truth under oath, he's a lying liar? Come on, now. It comes off like if jesus christ himself were testifying, people would accuse him of being angry that lance was stealing too much of his spotlight or something.

Every single witness in this case is tainted in some way. Especially the legal team

what about the woman who says she heard him list his use of PEDs to a doctor?

AngryDiet

I love how the defenders automatically go to 'those guys accusing him are just mean and lying and trying to get ahead!' To that group ... you realize that some of these guys are admitting they did this stuff right alongside Armstrong, right? They are hitting themselves here. And hincapie is universally liked and respected in cycling. So now just because he tells the truth under oath, he's a lying liar? Come on, now. It comes off like if jesus christ himself were testifying, people would accuse him of being angry that lance was stealing too much of his spotlight or something.

Every single witness in this case is tainted in some way. Especially the legal team

what about the woman who says she heard him list his use of PEDs to a doctor?

Is that a bitter ex-wife?

havingitall

I love how the defenders automatically go to 'those guys accusing him are just mean and lying and trying to get ahead!' To that group ... you realize that some of these guys are admitting they did this stuff right alongside Armstrong, right? They are hitting themselves here. And hincapie is universally liked and respected in cycling. So now just because he tells the truth under oath, he's a lying liar? Come on, now. It comes off like if jesus christ himself were testifying, people would accuse him of being angry that lance was stealing too much of his spotlight or something.

Every single witness in this case is tainted in some way. Especially the legal team

what about the woman who says she heard him list his use of PEDs to a doctor?

can you say hearsay??

Laces_0ut

I love how the defenders automatically go to 'those guys accusing him are just mean and lying and trying to get ahead!' To that group ... you realize that some of these guys are admitting they did this stuff right alongside Armstrong, right? They are hitting themselves here. And hincapie is universally liked and respected in cycling. So now just because he tells the truth under oath, he's a lying liar? Come on, now. It comes off like if jesus christ himself were testifying, people would accuse him of being angry that lance was stealing too much of his spotlight or something.

Every single witness in this case is tainted in some way. Especially the legal team

what about the woman who says she heard him list his use of PEDs to a doctor?

can you say hearsay??

how is she "tainted"?

DaneDillinger

I love how the defenders automatically go to 'those guys accusing him are just mean and lying and trying to get ahead!' To that group ... you realize that some of these guys are admitting they did this stuff right alongside Armstrong, right? They are hitting themselves here. And hincapie is universally liked and respected in cycling. So now just because he tells the truth under oath, he's a lying liar? Come on, now. It comes off like if jesus christ himself were testifying, people would accuse him of being angry that lance was stealing too much of his spotlight or something.

Now, now, no need to bring Tim Tebow into this discussion...

Laces_0ut

I love how the defenders automatically go to 'those guys accusing him are just mean and lying and trying to get ahead!' To that group ... you realize that some of these guys are admitting they did this stuff right alongside Armstrong, right? They are hitting themselves here. And hincapie is universally liked and respected in cycling. So now just because he tells the truth under oath, he's a lying liar? Come on, now. It comes off like if jesus christ himself were testifying, people would accuse him of being angry that lance was stealing too much of his spotlight or something.

Every single witness in this case is tainted in some way. Especially the legal team

what about the woman who says she heard him list his use of PEDs to a doctor?

Is that a bitter ex-wife?

yeah im sure she'd purger herself....

AngryDiet

I love how the defenders automatically go to 'those guys accusing him are just mean and lying and trying to get ahead!' To that group ... you realize that some of these guys are admitting they did this stuff right alongside Armstrong, right? They are hitting themselves here. And hincapie is universally liked and respected in cycling. So now just because he tells the truth under oath, he's a lying liar? Come on, now. It comes off like if jesus christ himself were testifying, people would accuse him of being angry that lance was stealing too much of his spotlight or something.

Every single witness in this case is tainted in some way. Especially the legal team

what about the woman who says she heard him list his use of PEDs to a doctor?

can you say hearsay??

Hearsay is information gathered by one person from another person concerning some event, condition, or thing of which the first person had no direct experience.

So if she says it under oath or whatnot, it's not hearsay. Because she claims to have heard it first hand. It's testimony.

Jacks039

Though he might have cheated, he did raise millions of dollars towards cancer research.

Alex_is_Hawks

so if he's innocent hes going to let them strip him of everything he's won? nobody would do that. nobody would give you their legacy.

but he's never failed a test...and he's been fighting this for years...do you have that kind of cash to fight this fight with a panel of lawyer till the end of time?

He has a family to support and his charity...him dropping the matter may have nothing to do with innocence or guilt but rather to do with economics...

economics drive these issues more than we know...

AngryDiet

I love how the defenders automatically go to 'those guys accusing him are just mean and lying and trying to get ahead!' To that group ... you realize that some of these guys are admitting they did this stuff right alongside Armstrong, right? They are hitting themselves here. And hincapie is universally liked and respected in cycling. So now just because he tells the truth under oath, he's a lying liar? Come on, now. It comes off like if jesus christ himself were testifying, people would accuse him of being angry that lance was stealing too much of his spotlight or something.

Every single witness in this case is tainted in some way. Especially the legal team

what about the woman who says she heard him list his use of PEDs to a doctor?

Is that a bitter ex-wife?

yeah im sure she'd purger herself....

If she wanted to hurt him badly enough, anything is possible. POSSIBLE I said.

Laces_0ut

so if he's innocent hes going to let them strip him of everything he's won? nobody would do that. nobody would give you their legacy.

but he's never failed a test...and he's been fighting this for years...do you have that kind of cash to fight this fight with a panel of lawyer till the end of time?

He has a family to support and his charity...him dropping the matter may have nothing to do with innocence or guilt but rather to do with economics...

economics drive these issues more than we know...

he will never have a real endorsement again...id bet thats more money than he will spend on these lawyers.

AngryDiet

so if he's innocent hes going to let them strip him of everything he's won? nobody would do that. nobody would give you their legacy.

but he's never failed a test...and he's been fighting this for years...do you have that kind of cash to fight this fight with a panel of lawyer till the end of time?

He has a family to support and his charity...him dropping the matter may have nothing to do with innocence or guilt but rather to do with economics...

economics drive these issues more than we know...

They claim he had $125,000 to suppress a failed drug test.

AngryDiet

Nevermind me.

I fell of a bike when I was 12 and now I hate Lance Armstrong.

ninerbuff

I'm actually kind of pissed that my (and your) tax dollars have been spend on this. I am also pissed that the USADA exists at all. I do not think we should be paying so beaurocratic blowhards money to pretend they are the governing body of all sports. Like one poster said, them stripping his titles is like me saying I'm stripping their titles.

This is from the USADA's web site: "The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) is the national anti-doping organization for the Olympic movement in the United States. The U.S. Congress recognized USADA as "the official anti-doping agency for Olympic, Pan American and Paralympic sport in the United States."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the last time I checked the Tour de France is not part of the Olympics.

Agreed. Millions have been spent on trying to convict sports athletes for doping and trying to jail them. How many have actually gone to jail? ZERO.

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dayone987

In this day and age "enhancement" is what EVERYONE does. Even the average person. Tiger Woods had to wear corrective lenses till he had Lasik. Depth perception is important in golf, so by getting it done is it considered cheating? Or how about the the swimmer who can afford a "slick suit" competing against one that can't afford one?
Elite competitors go beyond what the person would do to win, with training, nutrition, and yes enhancement.
Get this, if competitive bodybuilders (excluding some natural ones) were to be tested for steroids, they will find a way to pass the test. Now if they can pass a test, even if we couldn't prove guilt, how likely are we to believe it?
Personally I believe Armstrong did enhance. You don't win that many in a row without some help.

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My thought is that it is considered cheating if there are explicit rules against whatever. I don't think the PGA has a rule aginst lenses or Lasik so no Tiger didn't cheat (at golf anyway, lol)

AngryDiet

Though he might have cheated, he did raise millions of dollars towards cancer research.

Do you think that if I raised enough money for cancer I could kill a guy?

hauer01

My god! The poor man has been fighting this allegation for 10 years. Perhaps he is just DONE fighting over something so trivial in comparison to his and other's fight for cancer.

Krizzle4Rizzle

Though he might have cheated, he did raise millions of dollars towards cancer research.

Do you think that if I raised enough money for cancer I could kill a guy?

Depends on who you would like to kill.

MissFit0101

I think you're quite ignorant to imply that he said something he clearly did not.