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As if There Weren't Enough Reasons to go Vegan

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  • I want some steak
  • Posts: 770 Member
    I had two scotch fillets last night.
  • Posts: 137
    Animal testing to prove a vegan diet?

    lol
  • Posts: 36 Member
    Going vegan is one of my best decisions ever, since I started to run and lift weights regularly.
  • Posts: 1,998 Member
    Going vegan is one of my best decisions ever, since I started to run and lift weights regularly.
    nice
  • Posts: 1,615 Member
    I am not a mouse.

    Edited to add: I have no problem with people choosing to be Vegan, I just don't find this remotely persuasive to the cause.
  • Posts: 1,896 Member
    Good for the mice.

    Which I am not.
  • Posts: 6,033 Member
    MMMm.... grilled meat....
  • Posts: 12,871 Member
    How much of it did they feed the mice?
  • Posts: 116 Member
    Wouldn't the human race have become extinct long ago if this bogus research had any legs? Seriously people. Can we use our common sense to question junk science every now and again?

    Look at my avatar. Do I look like I am on the brink of diabetes and other metabolic disturbances? That pic is now about 13 years old and I still have the same amount of lean mass and have recently decided to get that lean again "because I want to and I can" since my fitness modeling and competitive days are long over. Check my food journal - plenty of red meat, poultry, eggs and seafood. Balance is the key to good health and fitness. Vegans pump all sort of chemicals and additives into their food to make up for what is lacking. Sorry, but that isn't for me. I prefer to eat food that is clean and hasn't been chemically altered. Call me crazy, but works for me.
  • Posts: 37 Member
    While the choice is ultimately your own, I would recommend further research before pursuing a vegan diet.
    Read this as part of your research:

    http://www.marksdailyapple.com/meat-eating-human-evolution/#axzz24qdoe7Wf
  • Posts: 64
    why put a label on it? Eat meat dont eat meat blahblahblah.
  • Posts: 62 Member
    ehh... aren't mice vegans? maybe this study is just good for vegans, perhaps just the vegans should be very careful to avoid eating meat?
  • Posts: 340 Member
    I want some steak

    ^ This
  • Posts: 781 Member
    I have Points on my teeth, Claws, Forward facing eyes, and ears on the side of my head. I am By definition a predator!!
  • Posts: 607 Member
    I haven't come across a single good reason for going vegan.
  • Posts: 4,391 Member
    You do realize that mice are primarily herbivores? The way their bodies react to meat is very different from how we would react to it.
  • There is not one good reason to be a vegan.
  • Posts: 209 Member
    I've been vegan for over 7 years. I've never looked back. Best decision I've ever made, after going vegetarian.
  • Posts: 546 Member
    a) this is done in mice. This does not mean it is equivalent in humans, we have very different physiology in some respects.
    b) in what quantity were the mice fed methyl-glyoxal? Because if it's the equivalent amount to 1000 sausages, as is often the case when people research isolated chemicals, the results aren't really going to mean anything other than for those who eat 1000 sausages a day. I can't be bothered to read the article though to check.
    c) this is one experiment, it hasn't been repeated by anyone else.

    Just mentioning a couple of issues which is why it's bad to make snap decisions based on press releases of single research papers. Not saying it's wrong, just that it's illogical to reach any conclusions at this point.
  • Posts: 778
    Thank God I'm not a mouse...
  • Posts: 178 Member
    I think I might make me a steak on the grill for Labor Day
  • Posts: 209 Member
    I haven't come across a single good reason for going vegan.

    Not even animal welfare, the environment or health benefits?
  • Posts: 140 Member
    I haven't come across a single good reason for going vegan.

    Here's one: More meat for the rest of us! :bigsmile:
  • Posts: 218 Member
    There are so many reasons to go Vegan... yet one pulls me back every time. Meat is good.
  • Posts: 209 Member
    You do realize that mice are primarily herbivores? The way their bodies react to meat is very different from how we would react to it.

    Rats however are well known for eating meat. Mice are very similar.
  • Posts: 87 Member
    I have Points on my teeth, Claws, Forward facing eyes, and ears on the side of my head. I am By definition a predator!!

    Don't forget that you also have a pancreas that releases an enzyme during the digestion process to assist in the breakdown of raw meats. (Not as necessary since we discovered fire of course)
  • Good thing I'm not a mouse because I'm going to be grilling up some ribeyes this weekend.
  • Posts: 607 Member
    our own BODIES produce methylglyoxal. its a naturally occuring compound produced by natural processes inside our bodies.
  • Posts: 62 Member
    Vegan: old Native American word for "lousy hunter"
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