As if There Weren't Enough Reasons to go Vegan

joecollins9385

Some of you are so cruel as to say that you don't care for animal welfare.

its not that i dont care for animal welfare. i have 2 dogs that i love and take very good care of. but there is a difference between pets and wild animals and animals that are raised for the purpose of becoming someones dinner. pets are to be loved, wild animals are to be hunted and the rest, well i think thats pretty obvious

Glasgow_Vegan

"Evil acts"=eating meat?

I was gonna say something, but then decided.....you know what, you go ahead and think I'm evil.

I said it was an evil ACT. There's a difference between doing an evil act and being an evil PERSON.

SkinnyChemicals

Lastly, I'd like to thank everyone who does eat meat... without all your hard work, all of the cows and pigs would reproduce unchecked and soon outnumber us. There would be no food left. Chaos would prevail. Thank you. :laugh:

The number of cows and pigs in the world today wouldn't exist if humans didn't eat meat. Also most farm yard species would probably go extinct.

Glasgow_Vegan

I'm pretty sure all meat eaters are just as bad as Hilter. In the future, we'll be seen just like that.

Reductio ad Hitlerum in an attempt to end the silliness.

Hitler was a vegetarian, I believe.

No, that's a myth. He actually had crohn's disease and gave up sausages and so on for months at a time on doctors orders. He resumed eating meat during the breaks.

RhonndaJ

I may not physically require meat to live, but I would not suggest being around me if I can't have it when I crave it. Just ask my husband. Chocolate, jelly beans, chips... I'll happily forgo those things. But. Not. Meat.

Glasgow_Vegan

Some of you are so cruel as to say that you don't care for animal welfare.

Oh we care for it. We just think animals have a higher purpose than just manure producers (at least in the case of cows). In order for something to live, something else has to die. The human body needs protein in order to live and animals just happen to be an excellent source of that protein. How convenient, eh?

In most cases, we don't slaughter innocent animals (unless they're creepy like spiders or mosquitos...how does a vegan justify that, I wonder) just for the sake of the slaughter, but so that we can live. There is nothing cruel about that. It's just a part of life.

Vegans don't kill anything, including ones that are "creepy like spiders or mosquitoes" in your words.

christimw

this topic is amusing. and i though *i* have said some stupid stuff that couldn't be topped..

SkinnyChemicals

I may not physically require meat to live,

So you agree with me.Ok.

Glasgow_Vegan

I am not vegan. I am a ovo-lacto pescetarian vegetarian by necessity (I eat eggs, milk products, fish and vegetables)

I choose not to eat meat because I have medical issues processing Uric Acid. I choose not to suffer from seriously debilitating gout (trust me you don't want it either). That being said... I do miss me some bacon wrapped beef tenderloin. :laugh:

Lastly, I'd like to thank everyone who does eat meat... without all your hard work, all of the cows and pigs would reproduce unchecked and soon outnumber us. There would be no food left. Chaos would prevail. Thank you. :laugh:

With all due respect that last paragraph of yours is the most stupid thing I've read in a long while.

K_Smith86

Vegan or not, it's a personal choice that shouldn't be shoved down the throats of people. After reading all the comments, the first thing that came to mind was, "don't people remember The Lion King? When Mufasa is explaining the Circle of Life to Simba?"

It worked for the caveman, it worked for the Native Americans, it still works to this day. Simple as that. But to each their own, and whatever makes them happy. Hakuna matata

meggonkgonk

I am not vegan. I am a ovo-lacto pescetarian vegetarian by necessity (I eat eggs, milk products, fish and vegetables)

I choose not to eat meat because I have medical issues processing Uric Acid. I choose not to suffer from seriously debilitating gout (trust me you don't want it either). That being said... I do miss me some bacon wrapped beef tenderloin. :laugh:

Lastly, I'd like to thank everyone who does eat meat... without all your hard work, all of the cows and pigs would reproduce unchecked and soon outnumber us. There would be no food left. Chaos would prevail. Thank you. :laugh:

With all due respect that last paragraph of yours is the most stupid thing I've read in a long while.

And with all due respect, everything you've written is really, really sanctimonious. Yet no one has called you stupid. Lay off.

Mr_Bad_Example

I haven't come across a single good reason for going vegan.

Here's one: More meat for the rest of us! :bigsmile:

Doesn't knowing you've lead to the death and sometimes torture of hundreds if not thousands of animals make you feel bad?

Doesn't it bother you that you've contributed to the death of thousands of innocent fruits and vegetables that were doing nothing other than minding their own business and growing happily in the sun?

You know very well that fruit and vegetables are inanimate. It's a rights issue just like racism or homophobia. In the future people will look back on meat eating in the same way we now view the slave trade.

Okay... I was OBVIOUSLY kidding. But you comparing animals to the plight of people of all backgrounds and beliefs is way, way beyond the pale. People will not look back and think of this issue in the same light as the slave trade. People will not look back on this and think about it in the same vein as the same-sex marriage debate. That you seem to value animal rights that much more than human life is, well, deeply disturbing to me. But hey, that's my view and I have a right to it - just as you have a right to yours.

Also, I'm fairly sure that animals eat each other in the wild. I don't think they feel bad about the pain they inflict when they kill each other to survive. It's how nature has always worked. But I'll change my stance when I see all of the carnivorous animals of the world taking up veganism, joining PETA, and renouncing their past bad acts.

I'll also be waiting for pigs to fly and for monkeys to play Mozart. We'll see which of those happens first.

christimw

With all due respect that last paragraph of yours is the most stupid thing I've read in a long while.

how is that any more stupid than comparing meat eating to racism, homophobia, and slavery? lol

Shock_Wave

delete

Carol_L

Vegans don't kill anything, including ones that are "creepy like spiders or mosquitoes" in your words.

Ummm....you don't wash? Hate to break it to you, but there are these colonies of microscopic critters that live on your skin that get killed when you hit them with soap and water. Not all of them, but there are casualties.

Frankly, if you want to be vegan, fill your boots. What you eat is your own business. When you feel that you need to start passing sanctimonious value judgements on what I eat as a means to reinforce your own choices - don't be surprised when I push back.

916lude

I want some steak

Same.

dodihere

Cavemen grilled meat, they lived..... happy.

jeffrodgers1

I am not vegan. I am a ovo-lacto pescetarian vegetarian by necessity (I eat eggs, milk products, fish and vegetables)

I choose not to eat meat because I have medical issues processing Uric Acid. I choose not to suffer from seriously debilitating gout (trust me you don't want it either). That being said... I do miss me some bacon wrapped beef tenderloin. :laugh:

Lastly, I'd like to thank everyone who does eat meat... without all your hard work, all of the cows and pigs would reproduce unchecked and soon outnumber us. There would be no food left. Chaos would prevail. Thank you. :laugh:

With all due respect that last paragraph of yours is the most stupid thing I've read in a long while.

With all due respect, I was joking! But obviously you don't understand what "With all due respect means".

rextcat

crap im hungry

ScorpionReaver

I haven't come across a single good reason for going vegan.

Here's one: More meat for the rest of us! :bigsmile:

THIS

Midnight_Sunshine

ehh... aren't mice vegans? maybe this study is just good for vegans, perhaps just the vegans should be very careful to avoid eating meat?

No, mice are omnivores.

But I see where you were going with that.

Tropical_Turtle

Geez this is like my step mom telling me humans have the digestive tract similar to that of a cow, and that we are to graze on grass like cows because we do not have canine teeth like wild animals (which uh yeah we do!)

And that our bodies really only need 30g of protein because protein depletes the calcium in the body. Funny how she could not answer if I eat mostly protein, why are my calcium levels right on target?

Things that make you go hmmmmmm

How about we just take it with a grain of salt (preferably added with some tequila and lime) and move on to the next theory.

Bentley2718

Wouldn't the human race have become extinct long ago if this bogus research had any legs? Seriously people. Can we use our common sense to question junk science every now and again?

If you are going to critique carefully conducted scientific studies, please point to specific issues with the research, not just that you don't happen to agree with the results.

Midnight_Sunshine

Some of you are so cruel as to say that you don't care for animal welfare.

Oh I care.... I care very much.

Happy animals taste better.

TheRealParisLove

Eating a vegan diet = 1st world problems.

GoMizzou99

BEFORE YOU BECOME A VEGAN - I HAVE A SOLUTION.

Since "dry heat" is the culprit...Use a smoker: Water pan = moist heat.

AND - it is delicious...yummmm...pork loin, ribs, turkey, chicken, salmon, brisket, etc.

sexynatasha

Sorry I'm having a nice piece of rump steak for my dinner tonight mmmm

Tank_Girl

Vegans are getting to be as bad as Evangelicals. Sheesh. Keep it to yourself.

They are not as bad ... They are worse

Tank_Girl

Some of you are so cruel as to say that you don't care for animal welfare.

Oh I care.... I care very much.

Happy animals taste better.

:happy: :happy: :happy:

_VoV

To add another reason from something I read this morning, plants actually can switch off some genes making cancer-trouble in the body, so that's a positive reason to eat plants:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/08/120827152050.htm