"It doesn't matter what you eat, IIFYM."

hottottie11

Yea...ya'll don't know what IIFYM really mean

Its not a case of ignorance it more of people knowing themselves and what works for them versus what triggers a bad habit.

I mean, after eating a healthy diet of lean meats, fruits and veggies a person is left with 150-250 calories to deal with is it possible to meet those remaining macros by eating 3/4 of a snickers bar or 2 1/3 oreos? Mathematically yes. However, for most people that's a slippery slope.

We can chide them for a lack of will, shame them for not being strong enough to throw away that 1/4 of candy bar away. Or they can simply make it a non issue and not tempt themselves.

Then that's self-control not IIFYM itself....

If you can't control yourself with one serving of cookies, then don't eat it...but please don't rant about how unhealthy IIFYM and how it's an excuse to go crazy.

Some can eat 100% clean...I tried and I was miserable.

And it could be said that eating clean is about how strong of a person you are and how weak ones resolve is.

I never said that IIFYM is bad or not "legit" but that there is a distinct reason that people tend to avoid it. For some, its more of a case of knowing themselves as opposed to pretending that they don't in the name of appearing to have an iron will.

I think a person who sticks to one serving (1/2 cup) or ice cream or 3 small chip ahoy cookies a day is pretty strong.

bathsheba_c

I've basically found that, if I don't eat sweet things except for on my treat day, after a while, sugar in large quantities starts to make me feel yucky. For example, I had a small dish of ice cream, and it made me feel gross, even though I used to be able to go for seconds. Or I got the small ice aroma (the local version of a frappuccino) instead of the regular, and it gave me a sugar high, whereas I used to be able to drink the regular one and feel nothing.

Acg67

Yes I know athletes can indulge more often than Johnny trying to lose 40 lbs.. In fact a good marathon runner friend of mine eats donuts like they are going out of style but he uses them for energy.. I would love to be in that position..

What I am saying is, I do not think it is feasible to lower nutrient food like say a big mac and fast food specifically as long as it fits in your macros and get the results you want out of weight loss..

If you are in the process of losing weight and you eat a cheese burger for dinner and it fits in your metrics for the day can you do it ? Sure .. But ultimately it will slow your results down as opposed to eating lean chicken breast and some steamed broccoli for the same meal time...

Not to mention as some one previously said the slope you will be walking on if you are trying to steer your life style on a more healthier life..

That being said if you have reached your goals in size, physically, and in performance you want out of your body you can be more prone to eat fast food lower nutrient dense food etc etc.. and be fine.. Just don't make a habit of it.

At the end of the day if your cals and macros were the exact same, but one diet you had a cheese burger for dinner and the other you had chicken and veggies for dinner, what difference would there be in weight loss?

half_moon

Haha. They weren't homemade. They were eggo. 190 calories for 2 waffles. 35 calories in a serving of the syrup. Pretty small, toaster-made stuff.

wewon

At the end of the day if your cals and macros were the exact same, but one diet you had a cheese burger for dinner and the other you had chicken and veggies for dinner, what difference would there be in weight loss?

Do you think that you would feel the same overall from eating diet of cheeseburgers as you would if you only had chicken and veggies? Calories being equal?

Ruthe8

At the end of the day if your cals and macros were the exact same, but one diet you had a cheese burger for dinner and the other you had chicken and veggies for dinner, what difference would there be in weight loss?

Do you think that you would feel the same overall from eating diet of cheeseburgers as you would if you only had chicken and veggies? Calories being equal?

How do you not understand the difference between being healthy/feeling good, and weight loss?

wewon

Yea...ya'll don't know what IIFYM really mean

Its not a case of ignorance it more of people knowing themselves and what works for them versus what triggers a bad habit.

I mean, after eating a healthy diet of lean meats, fruits and veggies a person is left with 150-250 calories to deal with is it possible to meet those remaining macros by eating 3/4 of a snickers bar or 2 1/3 oreos? Mathematically yes. However, for most people that's a slippery slope.

We can chide them for a lack of will, shame them for not being strong enough to throw away that 1/4 of candy bar away. Or they can simply make it a non issue and not tempt themselves.

Then that's self-control not IIFYM itself....

If you can't control yourself with one serving of cookies, then don't eat it...but please don't rant about how unhealthy IIFYM and how it's an excuse to go crazy.

Some can eat 100% clean...I tried and I was miserable.

And it could be said that eating clean is about how strong of a person you are and how weak ones resolve is.

I never said that IIFYM is bad or not "legit" but that there is a distinct reason that people tend to avoid it. For some, its more of a case of knowing themselves as opposed to pretending that they don't in the name of appearing to have an iron will.

I think a person who sticks to one serving (1/2 cup) or ice cream or 3 small chip ahoy cookies a day is pretty strong.

So is the person that can win an eye blinking contest and they both get the same reward.

LOL!

Acg67

At the end of the day if your cals and macros were the exact same, but one diet you had a cheese burger for dinner and the other you had chicken and veggies for dinner, what difference would there be in weight loss?

Do you think that you would feel the same overall from eating diet of cheeseburgers as you would if you only had chicken and veggies? Calories being equal?

Calories and macros? Am I eating only cheeseburgers and only chicken and veggies, or am I also eating other foods?

wewon

At the end of the day if your cals and macros were the exact same, but one diet you had a cheese burger for dinner and the other you had chicken and veggies for dinner, what difference would there be in weight loss?

Do you think that you would feel the same overall from eating diet of cheeseburgers as you would if you only had chicken and veggies? Calories being equal?

How do you not understand the difference between being healthy/feeling good, and weight loss?

Absolutely!

Are you following this thread?

The op feels gross after doing it the former way.

WendyTerry420

Yes I know athletes can indulge more often than Johnny trying to lose 40 lbs.. In fact a good marathon runner friend of mine eats donuts like they are going out of style but he uses them for energy.. I would love to be in that position..

What I am saying is, I do not think it is feasible to eat lower nutrient food like say a big mac and fast food specifically as long as it fits in your macros and get the results you want out of weight loss..

If you are in the process of losing weight and you eat a cheese burger for dinner and it fits in your metrics for the day can you do it ? Sure .. But ultimately it will slow your results down as opposed to eating lean chicken breast and some steamed broccoli for the same meal time...

Not to mention as some one previously said the slope you will be walking on if you are trying to steer your life style on a more healthier path...

That being said if you have reached your goals in size, physically, and in performance you want out of your body you can be more prone to eat fast food lower nutrient dense food etc etc.. and be fine.. Just don't make a habit of it.

I love chicken and I love broccoli, but who the hell wants to eat the same thing every day?

fbmandy55

As far as losing weight, no it doesn't matter... . To get a certain body shape, I think what you eat is part of that. IF you want certain kinds of muscle definition, you will probably have to eat differently then if you goal is to just lose weight. As they say, abs are made in the kitchen.

wewon

At the end of the day if your cals and macros were the exact same, but one diet you had a cheese burger for dinner and the other you had chicken and veggies for dinner, what difference would there be in weight loss?

Do you think that you would feel the same overall from eating diet of cheeseburgers as you would if you only had chicken and veggies? Calories being equal?

Calories and macros? Am I eating only cheeseburgers and only chicken and veggies, or am I also eating other foods?

Your pick.

The_New_Christina

If you take a look at my diary I eat Mexican every day! Just alot less than I used to. And I've lost 17lbs in two months doing this. Slow and steady wins the race :flowerforyou:

onewileydog

If only I could survive on peanut butter, potato chips and chocolate chip cookies. What a great thing it would be. I am 6’ 2”, and started at 230 pounds 4 weeks ago. I am down to 221 today and did it by the simple adage: eat less, do more. Since my BP and cholesterol are excellent, I eat the same foods. I like them, because my body wants and needs them. I just eat less of them. People gorge themselves because of unfulfilled cravings. I avoid those cravings by not starving myself of the foods my body wants.

Ruthe8

At the end of the day if your cals and macros were the exact same, but one diet you had a cheese burger for dinner and the other you had chicken and veggies for dinner, what difference would there be in weight loss?

Do you think that you would feel the same overall from eating diet of cheeseburgers as you would if you only had chicken and veggies? Calories being equal?

How do you not understand the difference between being healthy/feeling good, and weight loss?

Absolutely!

Are you following this thread?

The op feels gross after doing it the former way.

Who cares what OP said? Did I quote you responding to OP?

WendyTerry420

If you take a look at my diary I eat Mexican every day! Just alot less than I used to. And I've lost 17lbs in two months doing this. Slow and steady wins the race :flowerforyou:

:flowerforyou:

Mexican food

FungusTrooper

Some people, yeah, some people, no. I can eat basically whatever I want and still lose weight, feel okay, etc, so long as it fits in my numbers.

My wife, however, feels bad if she eats processed meats or anything with oil in it, etc, regardless of if it fits or not.

So I think it's less about the numbers and more about your body's likes and dislikes.

vim_n_vigor

Yea...ya'll don't know what IIFYM really mean

Its not a case of ignorance it more of people knowing themselves and what works for them versus what triggers a bad habit.

I mean, after eating a healthy diet of lean meats, fruits and veggies a person is left with 150-250 calories to deal with is it possible to meet those remaining macros by eating 3/4 of a snickers bar or 2 1/3 oreos? Mathematically yes. However, for most people that's a slippery slope.

We can chide them for a lack of will, shame them for not being strong enough to throw away that 1/4 of candy bar away. Or they can simply make it a non issue and not tempt themselves.

If the only way to lose weight was to never again even try things like candy bars or fast food I would never have started this. And it would never have worked.

Luckily that isn't the case. People in fact CAN have a candy bar and not become food monsters who eat everything in sight and give up exercising. There's a word for it...

Oh yeah! Moderation.

And that's fabulous for them!! Eventhough I'm not sure where the hyperbole came from of 'the only way to lose weight'.

I just wonder how many people lost weight and regained it a year later rationalizing their "moderation" every step of the way.

I would expect that there is a pretty good success rate because they eat the same while they are losing weight as they do after losing weight.

chrishgt4

IIFYM doesn't allow you to just go off eating all the junk you like - the whole point is that what you're eating has to fit your macros.....you couldn't eat just cheeseburgers all day because you would not hit your macros - you'd most likely be under on protein but over on carbs and fat.

You still have to watch what you eat.

Is it optimal? No. It is not. But that's not the point - it is meant to be easy to follow because you can adjust it as you go.

Optimally you would be eating a perfect balance of healthy foods at the right times to give optimum energy for your workouts and recovery.

Most people can't live like that so IIFYM is a great fallback for those who don't want to over-complicate things and want simple rules that will work to live by.

It really is about what works for you - if those things are going to drag you back then you are no longer following IIFYM.

Everything is IIFYM - it is an individual thing whether you can get away with eating crap within that or if you need to keep yourself on the straight and narrow.

wewon

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Who cares what OP said? Did I quote you responding to OP?

LMAO!!

Your post make no sense.

The OP is whats driving the thread.