Got really mad at the supermarket today

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  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    I had a wake up call in the grocery line yesterday that reminded me how I have backslid in the food department.

    I had my stuff on the belt, and a man behind me had the other 1/2 of the belt. I looked right at him and said OMG...that is how I shopped until last month!!!! He LOL and said the holidays can do that to us, and he was glad to be a good example.(as he sheepishly slid his icecream onto the belt :laugh:)

    So now I will go with a list!!


    As for the mom in line. There are a few things to consider here.
    1. those are all very inexpensive foods (except the soda)
    2. my daughter lived on mac and cheese, wouldnt eat anything else
    3. some ppl do not know any better

    I see this each time I go shopping and now with just overweight ppl. I have seen svelte moms who are still sweaty from the gym with big bags of chips, cases of soda and other garbage for the family.

    I remember my mom looking me straight in the eye and saying, eat your spinach or you get nothing and you go to your room for the night. There was no question in her voice, and there was nothing to do in my room (no tv, and this was pretty much pre-video game), guess what? I might have not eaten that night, but I ate what she gave me the next morning.

    I dispise your number 3. IMHO this is simply not an excuse in the United States. With free librarys with free internet access available. it's your responsibility as a parent to know better.
  • havingitall
    havingitall Posts: 3,728 Member
    Most people learn what to eat from their parents. My parents were British with a passion for gravies, cheese and sweets. My Dad loved his desserts and cookies so we always had them. No lunch or dinner was complete without something sweet at the end of it.

    My mother used to tell me I needed to lose weight, which I did, but she never told me how. I didn't have the right tools to do the job. I have learned over this last year what the right tools are and how to utilize them. I have a library card and read extensively. I am on the internet regularly too. But when you don't know what you are looking for, you have nowhere to find it.

    I was googling how to lose 100 lbs when I can across MFP. That was the best find I ever had on the interent (other than my husband:smile: ) It changed my life and the way I live it when no other thing had.

    So in keeping with Jeannie's comment....some people don't know any better....she's right
  • wmb0124
    wmb0124 Posts: 44 Member
    Yep, it's terrible. I ate horribly as a child, and I'm still trying to let go anger from it. I agree it's bordering on abuse and neglect, and maybe not even bordering. (ducking down as the flame war begins)

    I was at Burger King the other day (I was on a road trip and desperate, and I have been punished by it and made my peace with my terrible choice :tongue: ) and they were advertising a side of macaroni and cheese as part of their "smarter choices for kids" menu. Refined carbs, chemically orange goo and preservatives smarter?

    Really? Really?

    I have a relative whose children have never eaten a fruit or vegetable. Never. Terrifying. I was on a visit this summer, and one of the kids (I think she's around eight. . .it's not a relative I'm close with) said "I'm hungry!", so I pulled a pear out of my bag and handed it to her. God is my witness, she asked me "what is this thing?" :noway:

    As I'm reading this, I'm thinking about my dinner last night. Which was DELICIOUS. It was broiled chicken, broccoli, and spaghetti squash sautéed with a little bit of kens light Italian dressing, chopped garlic, and some EVOO. Really, it was easy, heck it is even easier if you buy a roasted chicken from the supermarket. Incredibly healthy, and not overly expensive either. Plus it takes about 15 minutes total to make (once you broil the chicken, which we do in advance). Is this type of stuff REALLY that hard? I would have loved this as a kid!

    Can you post this recipe? Sounds delicious!
  • michlingle
    michlingle Posts: 797 Member
    People (adults) do know better. They just choose not to care. You would have to be blind and deaf to NOT know that there are healthy foods and unhealthy foods. If you are fat, then you probably eat unhealthy foods. Then you do something about it. Or you don't. People know better, that's an excuse. It takes effort to cut things, it does not take effort to sit and your car and wait. It takes effort to wash dishes after you cook, no effort to throw away a bag. If you are lazy, you take the lazy way out. When I was heavier I was lazy. Plain and simple.
  • havingitall
    havingitall Posts: 3,728 Member
    The cart Sheboss mentions could have been mine a year ago. Although I tried to make balanced meals (protein, starch, veg), my choices for those stunk! None of my children are overweight, neither was I until my surprise baby arrived, so I thought I was doing ok. Imagine my surprise to learn what high fructose corn syrup does and how many foods it is in? Or how much sugar common foods we ate regularly contained? Or nitrates? Or preservatives? Wow...so much have I learned in the past year.

    That said, and in a possible, partial defense of the shopper, I shop at three separate stores for my weekly marketing. Family Dollar for the spices, paper products, and personal hygiene stuff; a farmers market for my fruits, veggies, dried legumes, and some imported foods, and the grocery store for the canned, frozen and organic dairy goods. So my cart might look a wee bit lopsided too, at the grocery. Not a veggie in sight!! LOL. I've already loaded up the car with those.

    Unfortunately, I doubt that second part is the case here. the place I was at has very low prices, and very good quality, mostly locally grown (when in season) fruits and veggies.

    If people judged my grocery cart at the grocery store they would think I eat dog food, kitty litter and laundry detergent. I buy my fruits and veggies at a fruit market and my meat at a butcher.
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    I had a wake up call in the grocery line yesterday that reminded me how I have backslid in the food department.

    I had my stuff on the belt, and a man behind me had the other 1/2 of the belt. I looked right at him and said OMG...that is how I shopped until last month!!!! He LOL and said the holidays can do that to us, and he was glad to be a good example.(as he sheepishly slid his icecream onto the belt :laugh:)

    So now I will go with a list!!


    As for the mom in line. There are a few things to consider here.
    1. those are all very inexpensive foods (except the soda)
    2. my daughter lived on mac and cheese, wouldnt eat anything else
    3. some ppl do not know any better

    I see this each time I go shopping and now with just overweight ppl. I have seen svelte moms who are still sweaty from the gym with big bags of chips, cases of soda and other garbage for the family.

    I remember my mom looking me straight in the eye and saying, eat your spinach or you get nothing and you go to your room for the night. There was no question in her voice, and there was nothing to do in my room (no tv, and this was pretty much pre-video game), guess what? I might have not eaten that night, but I ate what she gave me the next morning.

    I dispise your number 3. IMHO this is simply not an excuse in the United States. With free librarys with free internet access available. it's your responsibility as a parent to know better.

    Steve, YOU are the one who got me to investigate what I do and eat. Before then I was not totally ignorant, but was not as educated as I am today. It has taken a lot of work to know that a salad is NOT a salad!

    When I was a kid my mom was thin as were us kids. That was because there were weeks we existed on a box of mac and cheese, white bambi bread, a can of tuna and oranges from the tree next door. My mom knew what foods were good for us but had no money or means to buy it.

    I have an intelligent friend who is 100 pounds overweight. We worked out one morning and she invited me for a 'good' breakfast. We had burned maybe 200 cals in a light tready wkout. She made biscuits and gravy, sausage and eggs.....the eggs FRIED IN BUTTER! I did not eat but I did write down the caloric intake for one breakfast (thanks to MFP for the info!)

    She almost swallowed her tounge! She had NO idea!

    I believe education is key, but we also need a means and someone to teach us.
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    Oh...and thanks for making me educate myself.....and I continue to do so. :flowerforyou:
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    I had a wake up call in the grocery line yesterday that reminded me how I have backslid in the food department.

    I had my stuff on the belt, and a man behind me had the other 1/2 of the belt. I looked right at him and said OMG...that is how I shopped until last month!!!! He LOL and said the holidays can do that to us, and he was glad to be a good example.(as he sheepishly slid his icecream onto the belt :laugh:)

    So now I will go with a list!!


    As for the mom in line. There are a few things to consider here.
    1. those are all very inexpensive foods (except the soda)
    2. my daughter lived on mac and cheese, wouldnt eat anything else
    3. some ppl do not know any better

    I see this each time I go shopping and now with just overweight ppl. I have seen svelte moms who are still sweaty from the gym with big bags of chips, cases of soda and other garbage for the family.

    I remember my mom looking me straight in the eye and saying, eat your spinach or you get nothing and you go to your room for the night. There was no question in her voice, and there was nothing to do in my room (no tv, and this was pretty much pre-video game), guess what? I might have not eaten that night, but I ate what she gave me the next morning.

    I dispise your number 3. IMHO this is simply not an excuse in the United States. With free librarys with free internet access available. it's your responsibility as a parent to know better.

    Steve, YOU are the one who got me to investigate what I do and eat. Before then I was not totally ignorant, but was not as educated as I am today. It has taken a lot of work to know that a salad is NOT a salad!

    When I was a kid my mom was thin as were us kids. That was because there were weeks we existed on a box of mac and cheese, white bambi bread, a can of tuna and oranges from the tree next door. My mom knew what foods were good for us but had no money or means to buy it.

    I have an intelligent friend who is 100 pounds overweight. We worked out one morning and she invited me for a 'good' breakfast. We had burned maybe 200 cals in a light tready wkout. She made biscuits and gravy, sausage and eggs.....the eggs FRIED IN BUTTER! I did not eat but I did write down the caloric intake for one breakfast (thanks to MFP for the info!)

    She almost swallowed her tounge! She had NO idea!

    I believe education is key, but we also need a means and someone to teach us.

    Ah ha! See, that's what I mean. Intelligence and ignorance are not mutually exclusive. For instance, I consider myself an intelligent person (I guess), yet I'm completely ignorant of the mating habits of the South American tree frog. Then again, because I'm intelligent, I know I could find that knowledge if I needed to. Like if it affected my health to know it.

    So say I have some rare disease that will kill me, and the only cure is the slime on a South American Tree Frog's back, which they only excrete during mating season. Well, since I currently know nothing about it. I'd go look it up.
    I know this is a silly comparison, but it proves the point. Because I'm ignorant of it, doesn't make me unable to become knowledgeable. And as a parent, your child's health should be something you should be intimately familiar with. If you aren't IMHO it should be a parent's first priority.

    As to not having the money. I don't buy that argument anymore. Maybe when we were young and there weren't food banks all over the place. But I volunteer at a food bank a couple times a year, and know for a fact that anyone who needs it, can come down and request healthy, nutritious food from them weekly. Maybe in other parts of the country this isn't true, but where I live, you're never more than 5 or 10 miles from a fully stocked food bank.
    What we need to remember is that 20 or 30 years ago, when we were young, we didn't have the nutrition knowledge we do now. Parents can't hide behind the "I didn't know" statement any more. I'm sorry, but when children are involved, it's your job to know. I'm unwavering on that. I don't make excuses for parents, and I don't accept them from parents either.
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    Oh...and thanks for making me educate myself.....and I continue to do so. :flowerforyou:

    and you're welcome! Knowledge is power my dear!
  • mmnichol
    mmnichol Posts: 208 Member
    Mind if I add one more thing??

    I find that some people just don't care if what they eat is healthy or not, all that matters is that the food tastes good or it's cheap, that's it.

    I work with 10 women in my department in a hospital, they're all intelligent and informed, but.....they eat what they want and don't care what it's doing to them (most all are very overweight). You know the old saying, corny but true.... You can lead a horse to water.......but can't make it drink!


    BYT.....Happy New Year!!! :drinker:
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
    and just so everyone knows. I realize this is a journey, and a difficult one for many. I'm understanding of people struggling with nutrition. And I'm supportive of those who try.

    I'm just very intolerant when it comes to children. I feel like parents need to be held responsible for their children's well being. I see more adult issues stemming from childhood problems that could have been averted with proper parenting. It makes me nuts sometimes. I realize that sometimes it's unavoidable, but I also feel that many times it's the fault of the parents. And I just don't accept ignorance as a reason for parental failures in general (there are exceptions, but not that many).
  • kimber607
    kimber607 Posts: 7,128 Member
    I had a wake up call in the grocery line yesterday that reminded me how I have backslid in the food department.

    I had my stuff on the belt, and a man behind me had the other 1/2 of the belt. I looked right at him and said OMG...that is how I shopped until last month!!!! He LOL and said the holidays can do that to us, and he was glad to be a good example.(as he sheepishly slid his icecream onto the belt :laugh:)

    So now I will go with a list!!


    As for the mom in line. There are a few things to consider here.
    1. those are all very inexpensive foods (except the soda)
    2. my daughter lived on mac and cheese, wouldnt eat anything else
    3. some ppl do not know any better

    I see this each time I go shopping and now with just overweight ppl. I have seen svelte moms who are still sweaty from the gym with big bags of chips, cases of soda and other garbage for the family.

    I remember my mom looking me straight in the eye and saying, eat your spinach or you get nothing and you go to your room for the night. There was no question in her voice, and there was nothing to do in my room (no tv, and this was pretty much pre-video game), guess what? I might have not eaten that night, but I ate what she gave me the next morning.

    I dispise your number 3. IMHO this is simply not an excuse in the United States. With free librarys with free internet access available. it's your responsibility as a parent to know better.

    Steve, YOU are the one who got me to investigate what I do and eat. Before then I was not totally ignorant, but was not as educated as I am today. It has taken a lot of work to know that a salad is NOT a salad!

    When I was a kid my mom was thin as were us kids. That was because there were weeks we existed on a box of mac and cheese, white bambi bread, a can of tuna and oranges from the tree next door. My mom knew what foods were good for us but had no money or means to buy it.

    I have an intelligent friend who is 100 pounds overweight. We worked out one morning and she invited me for a 'good' breakfast. We had burned maybe 200 cals in a light tready wkout. She made biscuits and gravy, sausage and eggs.....the eggs FRIED IN BUTTER! I did not eat but I did write down the caloric intake for one breakfast (thanks to MFP for the info!)

    She almost swallowed her tounge! She had NO idea!

    I believe education is key, but we also need a means and someone to teach us.

    Ah ha! See, that's what I mean. Intelligence and ignorance are not mutually exclusive. For instance, I consider myself an intelligent person (I guess), yet I'm completely ignorant of the mating habits of the South American tree frog. Then again, because I'm intelligent, I know I could find that knowledge if I needed to. Like if it affected my health to know it.

    So say I have some rare disease that will kill me, and the only cure is the slime on a South American Tree Frog's back, which they only excrete during mating season. Well, since I currently know nothing about it. I'd go look it up.
    I know this is a silly comparison, but it proves the point. Because I'm ignorant of it, doesn't make me unable to become knowledgeable. And as a parent, your child's health should be something you should be intimately familiar with. If you aren't IMHO it should be a parent's first priority.

    As to not having the money. I don't buy that argument anymore. Maybe when we were young and there weren't food banks all over the place. But I volunteer at a food bank a couple times a year, and know for a fact that anyone who needs it, can come down and request healthy, nutritious food from them weekly. Maybe in other parts of the country this isn't true, but where I live, you're never more than 5 or 10 miles from a fully stocked food bank.
    What we need to remember is that 20 or 30 years ago, when we were young, we didn't have the nutrition knowledge we do now. Parents can't hide behind the "I didn't know" statement any more. I'm sorry, but when children are involved, it's your job to know. I'm unwavering on that. I don't make excuses for parents, and I don't accept them from parents either.

    Couldn't agree more..well said
    PLUS I think we all know that a splurge on a special occasion or ONE bad shopping trip is not going to make someone overweight/unhealthy.......plus if a 7yr old child is overweight/obese it hits a nerve if the excuse is that they are buying the chips or soda for daddy...the whole family needs to be on board and be an example, especially if an overweight child is involved
    Besides nutrition I also think it is a parents obligation to keep her kids active and limit the time they spend watching TV, on the computer, Wii, play station etc

    It is NOT easy as the majority of us here have suffered with extra weight and bad eating choices but what is happening to our children is down right scary!

    Kim
    I know having 2 small kids it isn't easy but I enroll my son in every after school program that I can....sports as well as art, etc
  • You are right! Kids can really be crude so she will be used for their entertainment purposes. Out of curiosity.....What did the mom look like....u know...her weight?
  • lotusfromthemud
    lotusfromthemud Posts: 5,335 Member
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    but when children are involved, it's your job to know. I'm unwavering on that. I don't make excuses for parents, and I don't accept them from parents either.
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    Banks, I am a thousand percent with you on this.

    I always use the cigarette comparison. I think that with the food industry right now, we're exactly where we were with cigarettes thirty years ago. The information is DEFINITELY easily and freely available that processed junk food is a) not good for you and b) causes obesity. Much the same way that in olden times, people who said that cigarettes caused cancer were "overbearing" or "judging". But, on the same comparison, the food industry is working very, very hard (and has billions of dollars and lobbyists at their command, just the same way that the tobacco industry does) to market crap to us. When was the last time you saw a TV commercial for an apple on Saturday morning? The corporations are convincing little kids that they "need" certain foods, and parents (who control the wallets and the kitchen) are giving in.

    I was raised by a mom and a grandma who did not teach me to eat (or take care of myself in any way, really). I wish someone had intervened, but no one did. I had to gain the knowledge myself, after I actually made myself ill and fat by eating poorly and turning to food for comfort, as I was trained to do in my childhood.

    Feeding your children the best food possible is crucial to their development. We have ten-year-olds in North America with type 2 diabetes! This is not acceptable! If I smoked, I wouldn't pass my six year old grandson a cigarette because he wanted one. And, I'm sorry, but I have the same feeling about junk food. I know everybody's situation is different, and this sounds extremely judgemental, but I feel pretty strongly about the issue.
  • Zara11
    Zara11 Posts: 1,247 Member
    If I ever have children, they will be from day one fed well and enrolled in physical activities and brought to parks! In the age of Google and free information, I'd be shocked if someone wasn't aware they were overweight, and after that, it's all about choices. Mind you, I completely understand that some people struggle with what choice to make based on a variety of psychological and environmental factors.

    However, one thing that bothers me certain people who say they struggle to buy healthy, but always have sodas and desserts stuck in the fridge. I say this from first-hand experience. When money was tight, and hell, even when it wasn't, I never bought that stuff to make sure I could afford the good foods.

    Once again, this of course varies from situation to situation. Thus, me saying this doesn't mean I'm "judging" people who have an excellent reason for consistently buying junk food over healthy food. This targets a specific group of people.
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    How about when a child will eat nothing but ......let's say mac and cheese...............or a hot dog..........is it better to allow them to go hungry than to allow them the weenie and mac? I know a bit off subject
  • Zara11
    Zara11 Posts: 1,247 Member
    How about when a child will eat nothing but ......let's say mac and cheese...............or a hot dog..........is it better to allow them to go hungry than to allow them the weenie and mac? I know a bit off subject

    That's a toughie. I know kids like that. There are several choices. 1. let then not eat anything until they eat more variety, tough love style, 2. work like hell to integrate new foods which doesn't always work (my friend's little brother only ate chicken nuggets for like 9 years and i know for a fact his parents tried a lot to slip in new stuff) or 3. feed them as they want, make sure they have enough physical exercise, and pray it's a phase that will end soon.
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    Store brand white bread: $1.29
    Natures Way whole grain bread : $3.29

    Box of mac and cheese: $1
    ww pasta : $2.59
    shred cheddar $2.59
    milk: $2.99


    My grocery bill went up $100 a week when I started to eat healthier. And that was on a good week.
  • MercuryBlue
    MercuryBlue Posts: 886 Member
    How about when a child will eat nothing but ......let's say mac and cheese...............or a hot dog..........is it better to allow them to go hungry than to allow them the weenie and mac? I know a bit off subject

    I'm a mean mom, lol. I'll mix a little big of 'good' stuff he likes with the GOOD things I like. So he might have baked chicken with a little mac and cheese on the side, and a bunch of veggies. Of course, being a child, he'll eat the mac and cheese first, then the chicken.

    ...So I'll make him sit at the table until the veggies are gone.

    I don't feel guilty doing it, either. My parents did that to me, and I promise, I didn't grow up too screwed up ;)
  • How about when a child will eat nothing but ......let's say mac and cheese...............or a hot dog..........is it better to allow them to go hungry than to allow them the weenie and mac? I know a bit off subject

    That's a toughie. I know kids like that. There are several choices. 1. let then not eat anything until they eat more variety, tough love style, 2. work like hell to integrate new foods which doesn't always work (my friend's little brother only ate chicken nuggets for like 9 years and i know for a fact his parents tried a lot to slip in new stuff) or 3. feed them as they want, make sure they have enough physical exercise, and pray it's a phase that will end soon.


    Kids will eat what is given to them when they are hungry enough. They won't starve to death because you don't give them the mac and cheese that they so love. In addition, I was told by my kids' pediatrician to put small amounts of the "good stuff" on my childs plate over and over when they were little. Eventually they taste it cause they keep seeing it and find out it's not so bad. Also, I stopped cooking seperate meals as my kids got older (age 2 or so). What daddy and mommy ate, the kids ate. The transition away from chicken nuggets was the worst. But I started baking chicken in corn flakes so it was visually similar and still had the crunch. They loved it! Now they will just eat the pan cooked, grilled, or baked chicken with seasoning without a problem. Also, rather than mac and cheese being THE meal, it can be served as a side along with some veggies. It's all about balance and portions.
  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
    I thought I was pretty educated back then and made better decisions than most of my friends.......but if I could give 1 bit of advise to young moms it would be:

    STICK TO YOUR GUNS!! You are right feeding them healthy stuff.

    I wish I knew the trick of adding purreed cauliflower to mac and cheese.....:laugh:
  • michlingle
    michlingle Posts: 797 Member
    My mom was a "mean mom" too :love: But she did it out of love. Whether it came to food or anything else, bargaining was not an option. I cannot tell you how often I hear parents bargaining with their children. Example, "you can get that candy only if you do x, y, and/or z" Or "If you sit quietly I will buy that for you." Really? As if sitting quietly equates to putting toxic food on the table? I think that's total bs. All my mom had to do was look at me and I knew to put what I wanted back on the shelf. Healthy eating is taught and it's the parent's responsibility to model that behavior as with any other aspect of child rearing. Oh, and it's not the school's responsibility either. As a teacher, I have learned that what happens at home trumps most lessons I teach in class. It's sad that more parents are setting their children up for failure in life by turning them into unhealthy adults. Ultimately, obese people don't get the same pay in the workplace and are often looked over for jobs. Of course there are the exceptions, but unfortunately it's probably more the norm.
  • I'm going grocery shopping tonight and now I won't be able to stop looking in other people's carts!!! I'm nosy anyway, though.
  • Slightly off topic but to address the ignorance issue about nutrition. Personally I think there should be a class on nutrition starting in middle school. Hell, throw a few lessons in there during science portion in elementary school! They'll teach us to care for empty egg shells and how to balance a check book, use the internet for research, all 50 states and their capitals (Which we'll forget in three months) but they wont teach us to take care of our own bodies.

    But of course... nutrition isn' t on the FCAT. -_-
  • kgrutch
    kgrutch Posts: 223
    i have 3 kids, ages 15, 14 and 3. when the older ones were in the toddler stage i would given them small amounts of everything, they were not allowed seconds of anything unless the plate was clean, if they chose not to eat the veggies, i wrapped it up until later when they said they were hungry again, then brought out the plate. of course for a while they were not too happy but they learned that this was not going away (even if was for breakfast the next day). they are now great eaters and even as young kids experimented with all types of foods, ethnic cuisine. my 3 year old is starting to get to the picky stage and i have started her with the plate technique. yesterday she went for 6 hours without eating until she finally finished her veggie soup but she did eat it. they will not starve. a little bit of hassle now will eliminate years of poor eating habits.
  • JennCh
    JennCh Posts: 63
    Store brand white bread: $1.29
    Natures Way whole grain bread : $3.29

    Box of mac and cheese: $1
    ww pasta : $2.59
    shred cheddar $2.59
    milk: $2.99


    My grocery bill went up $100 a week when I started to eat healthier. And that was on a good week.

    So true. Eating healthier foods is much more expensive than buying the junk. Thankfully my husband and I are able to afford the healthier choices, which in turn has allowed us to educate our kids about nutrition. We've also been fortunate to be able to make a commitment to sustainability, which means making further choices about the foods we consume. Not everyone can make the choices we have. However, this does not mean one cannot make better choices than soda and mac and cheese. Just don't buy those products. Take the money and sink it into some fruits and some veggies. Doing this, though, takes commitment, and a lot of people don't want to do this.
  • courtney_love2001
    courtney_love2001 Posts: 1,468 Member
    On a positive note, they have added a nutrition class to our required classes in med school just this year. That way, we will be truly informed so that we can help everyone better. Physicians need to take a bigger stand when overweight people come into the office. Perhaps all it would take to change someone's views would be for their doc to mention that they have gained 30 pounds in the last year...
  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
    i think you are being really judgemental. that is not a full cart of groceries for family for a day, let alone a week. those could possibly be snacks or replenishing the pantry or for special occasions (like, i don't know, NEW YEAR'S EVE). you have no idea what this women has at home in the manner of fresh fruits or veggies, or what her child is eating.

    This makes me LOL. I guess they got obese on all those veggies and fruit she has at home huh?

    i was reading through all the posts, and saw this one, and feel that I have to point out that it is totally ignorant to not think outside the box and "lol" at the idea that the women may be obese for other reasons and the child may be obese for other reasons. i know food plays a part in it, but people have thyroid problems and **** too. and it was new years eve, that soda was probably for a party, OR there could've been a sale on and they may not drink a can a day.

    otherwise, back to reading all the posts!
  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
    Slightly off topic but to address the ignorance issue about nutrition. Personally I think there should be a class on nutrition starting in middle school. Hell, throw a few lessons in there during science portion in elementary school! They'll teach us to care for empty egg shells and how to balance a check book, use the internet for research, all 50 states and their capitals (Which we'll forget in three months) but they wont teach us to take care of our own bodies.

    But of course... nutrition isn' t on the FCAT. -_-

    i think they should teach more on commercialism (to add to that) and the negative qualities of capitalism. even fat free and sugar free products are so bad for our health, we all know this right? how many of you still eat those products? i am not saying everyone does, but i would place a bet on the fact that at least one person on this thread had a diet soda today, or one person on this thread had fat reduced chips, etc.
  • Slightly off topic but to address the ignorance issue about nutrition. Personally I think there should be a class on nutrition starting in middle school. Hell, throw a few lessons in there during science portion in elementary school! They'll teach us to care for empty egg shells and how to balance a check book, use the internet for research, all 50 states and their capitals (Which we'll forget in three months) but they wont teach us to take care of our own bodies.

    But of course... nutrition isn' t on the FCAT. -_-

    i think they should teach more on commercialism (to add to that) and the negative qualities of capitalism. even fat free and sugar free products are so bad for our health, we all know this right? how many of you still eat those products? i am not saying everyone does, but i would place a bet on the fact that at least one person on this thread had a diet soda today, or one person on this thread had fat reduced chips, etc.


    I had a diet soda today and I am proud of it! However I used to drink a six pack a day of regular mnt dew by myself. I think my one diet soda is a little better.
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