Got really mad at the supermarket today

annhjk

I love the comments in this thread.

I will admit that I am a parent that will give my kids "junk" during the day. I have fruit snacks, chips, cookies, candy, etc. in my house -easily accessible to my kids. BUT, I also have the fruits/veggies, whole wheat bread, lean meats and make at least 90% of my meals at home during a week. I was overweight in high school and now we are all at a healthy weight. I've taught my kids that it's ok to have the "junk" in moderation and they ask before they take it. Heck, we even have Halloween Candy just sitting out and they don't really want it. They'd much rather have an apple or popcorn or whatever I'm eating for the most part. I almost fell over one day when I walked up stairs and my son (then 6) was sitting down with a big bowl of celery for a snack - just because it was cut up in the fridge. I do limit the 'junk" they have and they know if they've had 2 sweet/junky things, they need to have a healthy snack. Kids need to know the difference between the 2 and that it's okay to have a little of the "junk", but it has to be in moderation (there are a lot of adults that haven't learned that yet )

On to the insurance thing, it's crazy. I would love for them to pay a little of our preventive care (gyms/fitness). I teach and our district will give us an extra personal day (wellness day) a year if we don't miss a day because we get sick (while dealing with how many little bodies and germs all day) so people will come to school when they're sick just to get the extra day. I don't know why they don't give it to people that are healthy.

As far as healthy food being more expensive, I think it is to some extent. BUT, what about how much longer it fills you up? How about the energy you have to do things now and the reduced cost of buying new clothes because the old stuff was tight? What about the eating out cost (I'm sure the same people complaining are probably eating out fairly often too)? What about the Dr. visits/medication costsyou're saving? It's looks really bad to just compare how many chips you get vs how many apples you get for the same price, but I'll eat more than a serving of chips vs fruits/veg and it'll fill me up longer.

keiko

Slightly off topic but to address the ignorance issue about nutrition. Personally I think there should be a class on nutrition starting in middle school. Hell, throw a few lessons in there during science portion in elementary school! They'll teach us to care for empty egg shells and how to balance a check book, use the internet for research, all 50 states and their capitals (Which we'll forget in three months) but they wont teach us to take care of our own bodies.

But of course... nutrition isn' t on the FCAT. -_-

Actually they do, it's called health class. Most schools have them. Doesn't work, obviously. It's not the school's responsibility. It's the parents. Why don't people get this? Ah well, keep on keepin on! Just for the record, I still remember my state capitals.

I teach a week on nutrition to my sports medicine classes and even though they are required to take a health class it's still an eye opener when I tell them to look at labels and how there can be more than 1 serving in a container. Most kids don't realize that a can of soup is actually 2 servings and they have to multiple everything on the nutrition label by the servings.

I'm glad that there are people out there educating young people on nutrition. My DD took a class, it was called cooking for one. She thought it would be helpful since she was going to be going off to college. It was all about using pre packaged foods and cooking easy. I'm all for easy but even that can be healthy. She said she learned more by shopping and cooking with me.

Mamakatspokane

I love the comments in this thread.

I will admit that I am a parent that will give my kids "junk" during the day. I have fruit snacks, chips, cookies, candy, etc. in my house -easily accessible to my kids. BUT, I also have the fruits/veggies, whole wheat bread, lean meats and make at least 90% of my meals at home during a week. I was overweight in high school and now we are all at a healthy weight. I've taught my kids that it's ok to have the "junk" in moderation and they ask before they take it. Heck, we even have Halloween Candy just sitting out and they don't really want it. They'd much rather have an apple or popcorn or whatever I'm eating for the most part. I almost fell over one day when I walked up stairs and my son (then 6) was sitting down with a big bowl of celery for a snack - just because it was cut up in the fridge. I do limit the 'junk" they have and they know if they've had 2 sweet/junky things, they need to have a healthy snack. Kids need to know the difference between the 2 and that it's okay to have a little of the "junk", but it has to be in moderation (there are a lot of adults that haven't learned that yet )

On to the insurance thing, it's crazy. I would love for them to pay a little of our preventive care (gyms/fitness). I teach and our district will give us an extra personal day (wellness day) a year if we don't miss a day because we get sick (while dealing with how many little bodies and germs all day) so people will come to school when they're sick just to get the extra day. I don't know why they don't give it to people that are healthy.

As far as healthy food being more expensive, I think it is to some extent. BUT, what about how much longer it fills you up? How about the energy you have to do things now and the reduced cost of buying new clothes because the old stuff was tight? What about the eating out cost (I'm sure the same people complaining are probably eating out fairly often too)? What about the Dr. visits/medication costsyou're saving? It's looks really bad to just compare how many chips you get vs how many apples you get for the same price, but I'll eat more than a serving of chips vs fruits/veg and it'll fill me up longer.

I think you said it all beautifully:flowerforyou:

BamaRose0107

As far as healthy food being more expensive, I think it is to some extent. BUT, what about how much longer it fills you up? How about the energy you have to do things now and the reduced cost of buying new clothes because the old stuff was tight? What about the eating out cost (I'm sure the same people complaining are probably eating out fairly often too)? What about the Dr. visits/medication costsyou're saving? It's looks really bad to just compare how many chips you get vs how many apples you get for the same price, but I'll eat more than a serving of chips vs fruits/veg and it'll fill me up longer.
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In my experience it isn't that its more expensive, but it is more of hastle to spend the same now as I used to. Used to I could run to the store grab what I needed and go home. Now I have to look at the sales papers, clip coupons and alot of times I have to go to 2 or 3 stores to save extra money. I know it can be an inconvienience trying to buy healthy food on a budget and I can't emagine doing all this with a child with me. I also found that when I started eating healthy we ate out less so alot of money was saved there. However I would rather be inconvienienced rather than feed a child junk all the time.

annhjk

I think you said it all beautifully:flowerforyou:

Thank you - I got on a roll once I started.

PS - I liked your comments too.

mh3939

Right On!

mh3939

Maybe if women didn't have to work so much, they could stay home with their children and learn how to cook healthy foods. Unfortunately, people want the American dream, and they live to compete materialistically with others. As a result, both parents work to sustain the dream, and everyone in the family suffers from the habitual drive through dilemma.

Iceprincessk25

I love the comments in this thread.

I will admit that I am a parent that will give my kids "junk" during the day. I have fruit snacks, chips, cookies, candy, etc. in my house -easily accessible to my kids. BUT, I also have the fruits/veggies, whole wheat bread, lean meats and make at least 90% of my meals at home during a week. I was overweight in high school and now we are all at a healthy weight. I've taught my kids that it's ok to have the "junk" in moderation and they ask before they take it. Heck, we even have Halloween Candy just sitting out and they don't really want it. They'd much rather have an apple or popcorn or whatever I'm eating for the most part. I almost fell over one day when I walked up stairs and my son (then 6) was sitting down with a big bowl of celery for a snack - just because it was cut up in the fridge. I do limit the 'junk" they have and they know if they've had 2 sweet/junky things, they need to have a healthy snack. Kids need to know the difference between the 2 and that it's okay to have a little of the "junk", but it has to be in moderation (there are a lot of adults that haven't learned that yet )

I grew up in a household where I had access to healthy and junk food as well. I think it's really important to teach moderation to children. You can have the Kraft Mac N Cheese and be fine......just don't have it every day. Shoot.....I loved spam and mac n cheese when I was little! It was instilled in us to eat our veggies and fruit as well. MODERATION IS THE KEY! If you can get your kid to understand that your set.

I always thought it was weird when I would go to a friends house and they would have to ask permission from their parent to get a snack or have a drink.

arewethereyet

As far as healthy food being more expensive, I think it is to some extent. BUT, what about how much longer it fills you up? How about the energy you have to do things now and the reduced cost of buying new clothes because the old stuff was tight? What about the eating out cost (I'm sure the same people complaining are probably eating out fairly often too)? What about the Dr. visits/medication costsyou're saving? It's looks really bad to just compare how many chips you get vs how many apples you get for the same price, but I'll eat more than a serving of chips vs fruits/veg and it'll fill me up longer.

In my experience it isn't that its more expensive, but it is more of hastle to spend the same now as I used to. Used to I could run to the store grab what I needed and go home. Now I have to look at the sales papers, clip coupons and alot of times I have to go to 2 or 3 stores to save extra money. I know it can be an inconvienience trying to buy healthy food on a budget and I can't emagine doing all this with a child with me. I also found that when I started eating healthy we ate out less so alot of money was saved there. However I would rather be inconvienienced rather than feed a child junk all the time.
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Point taken, Rose...........anything worth having is worth working for.

arewethereyet

I was amazed there were 4 servings in 1 box of mac and cheese. I do not even want to TELL you what we ate prior to my new knowledge!

annhjk

Maybe if women didn't have to work so much, they could stay home with their children and learn how to cook healthy foods. Unfortunately, people want the American dream, and they live to compete materialistically with others. As a result, both parents work to sustain the dream, and everyone in the family suffers from the habitual drive through dilemma.

I don't think it's so much that both parents are working as that they aren't organized. Maybe I'm at an advantage that I'm done with work at 3:30, but I'm still able to make meals more often than do a drive thru. I'm not good at planning a menu for the week, but I know a lot of people that are, they prep as much as they can on the weekends, the night before, or even throw something in the crock pot before work in the morning. Knowing what to make is half the battle - then know what you need to do so you can come home and make a healthy supper. I still do fast food for the boys, but it's because it's a special treat - not the norm or because I don't have time to cook. There are a ton of meals that take less than 30 min. to prep.

JennCh

The insurance issue is very interesting, and it made me think about how many companies offer some kind of incentive to people to work out. My husband's company paid a portion of his gym membership while he was a member, and when we decided to make our own gym his company paid for a portion of the treadmill we bought. The company being willing to help us work at being fit was great. No matter what company a person works for, he/she should contact HR and ask if the company will pick up some of the cost. If the company does not, plant the seed and push for it, maybe even going so far as to give HR info on how fit/healthy workers cost the company less in the long run.

stormieweather

One day maybe we'll have health insurance policies that work like my automobile policy. They pay a portion of the preventative maintenance costs and if you do not do certain things (change oil, rotate tires, have fluids checked, etc.) on a regular basis, your policy is voided. However, if you eat right, exercise, and have regular checkups, all your ailments are covered.

As for school nutrition classes....since when do schools know anything about nutrition and healthy foods? Has anyone looked at what they serve? They cover the food groups (like I used to do), but it's not healthy food. It's food like chicken nuggets, tater tots, frozen pizza, processed beef patties, canned fruit and baked beans. Fresh veggies, fruit, and whole grains are no where to be found.

keiko

One day maybe we'll have health insurance policies that work like my automobile policy. They pay a portion of the preventative maintenance costs and if you do not do certain things (change oil, rotate tires, have fluids checked, etc.) on a regular basis, your policy is voided. However, if you eat right, exercise, and have regular checkups, all your ailments are covered.

As for school nutrition classes....since when do schools know anything about nutrition and healthy foods? Has anyone looked at what they serve? They cover the food groups (like I used to do), but it's not healthy food. It's food like chicken nuggets, tater tots, frozen pizza, processed beef patties, canned fruit and baked beans. Fresh veggies, fruit, and whole grains are no where to be found.

I want your car insurance! and yes, that would be great if our health ins worked that way.

My DH was just reading an article that said the foods in fast food restaurants are higher quality than school foods. That is sad. When my kids were little we lived in a small town that had a good hot lunch program, they made most everything from scratch, subs were on fresh rolls, soups & chili were made fresh. Sadly there are not many of those left.

keiko

Maybe if women didn't have to work so much, they could stay home with their children and learn how to cook healthy foods. Unfortunately, people want the American dream, and they live to compete materialistically with others. As a result, both parents work to sustain the dream, and everyone in the family suffers from the habitual drive through dilemma.

I don't think it's so much that both parents are working as that they aren't organized. Maybe I'm at an advantage that I'm done with work at 3:30, but I'm still able to make meals more often than do a drive thru. I'm not good at planning a menu for the week, but I know a lot of people that are, they prep as much as they can on the weekends, the night before, or even throw something in the crock pot before work in the morning. Knowing what to make is half the battle - then know what you need to do so you can come home and make a healthy supper. I still do fast food for the boys, but it's because it's a special treat - not the norm or because I don't have time to cook. There are a ton of meals that take less than 30 min. to prep.

My youngest begged me to work so we could eat out at McDonalds like her friend. Now she is thankful for all the homemade food and family meals we had together.

Your right about doing prep work and still being able to cook. I had times that I worked and times I didn't but I still cooked. I do think it comes down to organization and planning. Sadly that is not taught in school either.

Iceprincessk25

As for school nutrition classes....since when do schools know anything about nutrition and healthy foods? Has anyone looked at what they serve? They cover the food groups (like I used to do), but it's not healthy food. It's food like chicken nuggets, tater tots, frozen pizza, processed beef patties, canned fruit and baked beans. Fresh veggies, fruit, and whole grains are no where to be found.

Health class doesn't take place in the cafeteria. Schools are trying to make an effort at becoming better.....they're not a 100% perfect yet. Informing the kids of what is good and what is bad so they can make better choices is what's most important.

Our school doesn't sell any sodas on campus and the food machines all have healthy items in them. The kids aren't even allowed to sell candy for fundraisers on campus anymore because it's not allowed.

Nicmc8

I work in a supermarket... trust me when I say I see this on a daily basis. What gets me really mad is when they are paying for that junk with food stamps... the government needs to regulate what can be purchased with our tax dollars... no candy, soda, chips, etc... just the basics. I am not saying the lady you saw today was paying with food stamps or that all people on food stamps purchase junk food, I was just venting:)

Momma2four

i think you are being really judgemental. that is not a full cart of groceries for family for a day, let alone a week. those could possibly be snacks or replenishing the pantry or for special occasions (like, i don't know, NEW YEAR'S EVE). you have no idea what this women has at home in the manner of fresh fruits or veggies, or what her child is eating.
dawn

**edited for spelling

I agree with this person. You accused her of borderline child abuse? What an insult to children who are beaten and bruised and verbally abused as well as any other kind of horrible abuse that happens in our society. They probably wish that their abuse was being given a pepsi. I think we should feed our children healthy food, do nOT get me wrong, I just think you were a bit harsh on this woman not knowing if this was for a special occasion or not. I also think we should help keep our children from being over weight and encourage them to play, but I still say you were too harsh.

mh3939

Maybe they are on food stamps because they lack job skills, or an education and can only work for minimum wage. As a result, these people are going to eat bad. Why? Well, because they lack or refuse opportunities that will allow them to LEARN what a healthier lifestyle is.

arewethereyet

Maybe they are on food stamps because they lack job skills, or an education and can only work for minimum wage. As a result, these people are going to eat bad. Why? Well, because they lack or refuse opportunities that will allow them to LEARN what a healthier lifestyle is.

As a child I went hungry.... when my mom was finally too sick to work at her 2 dollar an hour job, the Government finally gave us foodstamps. THEN we ate healthy!! Roast beef, potatoes, fresh corn, cheese, wholewheat bread.

I was 12 and taking care of a term. ill mother. We were required to go to a class teaching us about good nutrition.

edited to correct my horrible gramma..grammer...grammor...oh hell...you know

mablesyrup

But many parents don't know any different! I was one of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I had NO IDEA just how awful processed food etc was until I actually started to educate myself on food and read labels. My 9 year old is overweight- and believe me, I am working on making LIFE CHANGES for all of us. I never ever in my life would have wished for ANYONE to endure what I've had to go through growing up and even as an adult with my weight! NEver ever. My daughter had no problems with weight- up until 3 or so years ago- when we had to move in with my grandparents. I was away at work- and they come from the time when "good healthy kids eat a lot".. so they would think they were doing the right thing- but letting her eat 3 cans of ravioli in a day! I am now trying to get the reigns back and help her with portion control and smart food choices. It's working- but something that will take time. Growing up in a house of 6, I am the ONLY child who grew up to be Obese. My mother always made good food choices for us.. if we were hungry the famous line was, "go eat an apple".. we had veggies at every meal- always ate good home-cooked healthy meals. But somewhere down the line after years of every imaginable sort of abuse, I turned into an emotional eater. Mostly it was because it was the ONLY way I could make my dad angry- because it was one thing he had NO CONTROL over- so I learned to eat and eat and eat.. and 30 years later- I have a HORRIBLE ADDICTION. It's no different than being addicted to alcohol or drugs or cigarettes. I suffer from OCD and Bi-Polar and when I'm having a severe depression episode- believe me- i don't give a f---- about anything- let alone the food I'm eating. It's impossible to empathize, when you've never been there.

Try not to be angry at the mother- you have no idea what she might possible be going through. I can also say from first hand experience- when you're a mother of several kids- and working and/or in school and running a household AND overweight (let alone if you're batteling depression or any other mental/physical illness) and you have to come up with 3 meals a day for a family- it's SOOO EASY to turn to Mac -and-Cheese and other crap.

Pray that the mother will become educated on healthy food and nutrition. Pray for her daughter. That's about all you can do- and in the mean time- change something you can- and let go of the fact that you couldn't have an impact on her life. Just know- that you can help impact others lives. Why not turn this into something good and start holding classes specifically targeted to mothers and their children? Like a cooking class or something?

And also- just because someone is obese DOES NOT MEAN all skinny parents with skinny kids are living healthy lives. One of my friends is a stick- and so are her children- and they eat nothing but CRAP- they eat fast food everyday. My oldest daughter (who is 9)- with the extra weight- has never drank pop. Please don't be so quick to judge people. I would have been far better off in my struggle with my eating addiction if people had been more COMPASSIONATE - instead of alienating me and making me feel like a fat piece of **** for a person... all that did was make it worse.

Also- many people who are lower income are obese- and a lot of that is from lack of education and also- processed crap is much more cheaper to buy at the store. If you've got X amount of money for the week for a family of 7 and you can make 1 nice meal or you can buy cheap boxed crap and a couple pounds of meat to feed the family for a week- what are you going to do?

2kidzlater

I know with all the information out there today one would make better choices. The mother odviously needs an education herself. You can take it a step further and get annoyed with people who are in shape and should know better and shop in a conventional supermarket buying foods that are GMO. Organic is alway's the best choice but people still have there reasons why they don't buy organic. So that mom may just need an education. You could of tried to start a friendly conversation with her and told her about this website. It could be a helpful tool for someone who needs a place to start. I'm sure that mom doesn't want to be overweight and she certainly doesn't love her child any less then someone with a thin child. It sucks that this child has to deal with weight issue's so young but it's her path to lead and hopefully her parent's get with it and do something for themselves and their child.

arewethereyet

And also- just because someone is obese DOES NOT MEAN all skinny parents with skinny kids are living healthy lives.

Funny you should say this. at this time in my life I have had only 1 person I know die of a heart attack, and 1 that had a heart attack. BOTH of them were under weight.

I love MFP...........and feel joyous at meeting ppl just like yourself on here........so much so I shared it with a stranger on line........who reported me for SPAMMING her........:laugh: that was rich!

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2kidzlater

Sp. Squash

Preheat 350 15 minutes.
Cut in 1/2
scoop out seeds.
Lay face down on a shallow baking dish filled with water. Bake 15-20 minutes.
Turn over - Squash is done when fork tender.
Great with stewed tomatoes and mixed vegetables and asiago cheese.

SHBoss1673

guys, I want to make sure people realize, I'm not talking about having your kid eat super clean and nothing but healthy food, although that's great too. I'm fine with the occational box of mac n cheese when you don't have time and it's the only thing you can make in a pinch. I'm more bothered by the fact that this child was literally huge, as was the mother, and there was absolutely nothing healthy in the cart.

Now, could I be wrong, could the child and mother have some kind of hormonal issue? And could all this food be for someone else or a special occation? I guess that's in the realm of possibilities. But I rather doubt it. There are certain assumptions that can be made in life. Can we be wrong? Sure, and if I'm wrong and it's pointed out to me, I'm the first person to admit it and appologize. But we can't always be 100% sure on everything.

Back to childhood nutrition. I feel like this. Kids should be given the proper nutrition for their age, that doesn't mean they can't ever have a cookie or a piece of candy or even a soda (kids are very active, have very fast metabolisms, and can usually burn off the sugar.) but it's not good for them, and shouldn't be a habit.
But even giving them those things regularly I'm ok with (I don't necessarily agree with that, but it doesn't make me crazy), IF and this is a HUGE if, they are given proper nutrition for their meals, AND are taught that those "treats" are just that, treats, and not really good for them. I think kids are smarter than parents sometimes give them credit for, they absorb information at an incredible rate, and even when you don't think they are listening, they learn from you.

iRun4wine

I don't think there is a person on this planet that can truthfully say that they have NEVER judged somebody, somewhere for something- it's human nature!. Of course, most of us keep our thoughts/opinions to ourselves as to not be rude. I don't see anything wrong with Banks' *thoughts*- whether I agree or disagree with what those thoughts/opinions/judgments were is irrelevant. Had he turned to the woman and began to lecture her about healthy eating, why she shouldn't have those things in her cart, etc. then I would say he was absolutely wrong- and I think most of us would agree. However, having a thought about something and then sharing it, is in my mind not "wrong"- it's America. Countless men and women have and continue to give their lives so that we can live in a country where we're allowed to think and say what we'd like- within reason, and I don't think Banks crossed the line because no words ever came out of his mouth! Just my two cents...

SHBoss1673

I agree with this person. You accused her of borderline child abuse? What an insult to children who are beaten and bruised and verbally abused as well as any other kind of horrible abuse that happens in our society. They probably wish that their abuse was being given a pepsi. I think we should feed our children healthy food, do nOT get me wrong, I just think you were a bit harsh on this woman not knowing if this was for a special occasion or not. I also think we should help keep our children from being over weight and encourage them to play, but I still say you were too harsh.

First, I didn't accuse anyone of anything. I never said a word to that woman, nor did I look at her funny. I voiced my opinion on what is, to all intents and purposes, an anonymous forum. Second, while beating your child may be the more obvious form of child abuse, after seeing first hand what an out of control childhood can do to people, yes, I do feel that someone can abuse their child by something like neglecting their nutrition. I'm not ashamed of my opinions on this. And I've already expressed my thoughts on the fact that there is the possibility of my opinion being wrong. Too harsh? Why is it too harsh to want a child to have a chance at a normal adult life free of intense ridicule and serious emotional issues later in their life?
There's not much difference between a child growing up to be an adult with severe self esteem issues, whether their parents caused these issues by constantly calling them ugly, or by allowing the child to grow up obese and be called fat, or whale, or cow by peers. You're damn right I think that's abusive!
Wouldn't you say a parent constantly calling their kid ugly is abusive? I know I would. What's the difference? Ignorance is not a reason, I'm sorry, I just don't accept the "I didn't know" argument. Not today. Not with all the free information out there.

neenaleigh

i love going out with a friend that is much heavier than i am. i will order the fattiest, gooeyist mess and she will have a salad, dressing on the side. whenever the order comes out, they always place the huge meal in front of 'the fat girl'. gotta love that.
dawn

I have witnessed this as well, and not to insult your friend because i dont know her/him, but i lived with two morbidly obese women for 6 months recently and thought the same about their eating habits, "why are they so big, they eat like birds" but then i got up in the middle of the night one night and saw them cramming food, like ice cream and chocolate and pigs feet into their mouths...the truth is that we dont see a lot of what these overweight people are eating. I myself was in the habit of closet eating as well before i found this website....sooo i have to agree with SHBoss1673.

beckyi88

One interesting point I haven't read on this thread....
does everyone here realize that there are cities in the United States that do not have access to actual grocery stores?
I'm not making this up.
Due to the economy, crime rates,etc there are NO grocery chains left in Detroit. The only options these people have are what is stocked at the corner store or the few raminaing mom and pop grocery mart.
Obviously this was not the case mentioned in the OP, but the reality is our country does have a vast population who are not well educated regarding nutrition, good health. For many, even if they had the knowledge, they do not have the means to drive to a farmer's market or Trader's Joe or in some cases even to a regular grocery store.
This country has a lot deeper nutritional issues than what 1 woman put in her grocery cart....although many of those factors do lead to her lack of knowledge or wise decision making.
Another interesting topic not previously discussed is the reality that our foods are processed and manipulated in order to cause cravings for MORE of the unhealthy options. No, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but you will never consider the food industry in the same light if you read THE END of OVEREATING by David Kessler. Food companies use the exact science as the tobacco companies to create dependence on fat, salt, and sugar. In lab tests, the dopamine receptors triggered by combinations of fat, sugar and salt were only slightly less than those triggered by heroin, cocaine or opium.
So take a person who is perhaps not nutritionally educated and combine her with a stacked deck in regards to her food and you have exactly what this country is currently struggling with....60% overweight.

Just on a personal aside, I was raised on good, clean eating...veggies, fruits, chicken,etc...no pop, candy and cookies.....as soon as I could buy my own food, guess what I went for?!?! You got it! Everything forbidden!

Interesting thread and view points.
My personal feeling is there is quite a bit of judging going on: by declaring *person A* to be judgmental, am I not also becoming judgmental? Just something to think about!

TCASMEY

I was thinking about this thread a lot last night. It has intrigued me. There was a lot of talk about education and learning to eat healthy....but knowledge does not always translate into action...

How many people start smoking knowing it is bad for them? ( I did...but have been smoke-free for over 12 years)

How many people ride bikes or motorcycles without helmets?

How many people neglect to buck-up when they get in the car? etc....

I guess what I am trying to get across is how do we get our knowledge to transfer over into our actions? I do not have the answers but think it is interesting to think about it. As an educator that is always the dilemma...how to make the learning having meaning in people's lives. For someone like me, a class in nutrition is not enough (I am a hands on learner) I need a class that gets me in the kitchen and teaches how to cook healthier and then lets me do it. It would be great addition to the high school curriculum.