People wearing too much makeup...
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From experience I avoid woman with too much makeup, first thing that pops into my head is insecurity and lack of confidence.
Ridiculous statement concerning make up is a billion dollar industry and millions of women wear it. Wearing makeup does not show a lack insecurity it shows a woman is taking an interest in herself and wants to feel good bout herself.
Your statement reeks of INSECURITY AND LACK OF CONFIDENCE.
Couldn't disagree more! I love wearing make up and I am offended that you would 'avoid' me because you are stereotyping me as an individual as insecure and as having a lack of confidence! Completely untrue. I am very secure and happy with myself and have a lot of confidence. But you know what, I wouldn't want a narrow minded and what it seems perhaps an overly opinionated man showing interest in me anyway. . . you wouldn't even last 3 seconds with me.0 -
I've had so many compliments on my makeup today ALONE I'm probably going to keep doing it like this FORRRR-EVVAAAAH!!
Muwuwuwah, lovelies!
Beautious, but I think you need more lipstick.0 -
I really don't care how much makeup people are wearing or why. I prefer people without it, but whatever floats your boat is fine by me.
I have respect for people that know how to use eyeliner withouth looking like a diseased badger (it's the pretty much the only look I can manage so I prefer not to use any). I don't know what to do with foundation or lipstick or anything more complicated than mascara. I think I would probably look prettier with makeup, but I like my face the way it is.
People wearing too much perfume however....0 -
Eh never mind0
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From experience I avoid woman with too much makeup, first thing that pops into my head is insecurity and lack of confidence.
Ridiculous statement concerning make up is a billion dollar industry and millions of women wear it. Wearing makeup does not show a lack insecurity it shows a woman is taking an interest in herself and wants to feel good bout herself.
Your statement reeks of INSECURITY AND LACK OF CONFIDENCE.
Couldn't disagree more! I love wearing make up and I am offended that you would 'avoid' me because you are stereotyping me as an individual as insecure and as having a lack of confidence! Completely untrue. I am very secure and happy with myself and have a lot of confidence. But you know what, I wouldn't want a narrow minded and what it seems perhaps an overly opinionated man showing interest in me anyway. . . you wouldn't even last 3 seconds with me.
Sorry if you may feel offended by my opinion, however I get to live life as I want to since I have my own set of standards when choosing a life partner.
Unfortunately due to past experience I am hesitant to date any girl who cakes on makeup especially foundation for that matter.0 -
i wear make up every day to work. and you know what, i look at other girls and i think just a little bit of eye-liner would really enhance your eyes. why not use a tool - the way we style our hair or use clothes - to enhance our features?
live and let live!
:drinker: :drinker:
Don't you see that this seems just a little hypocritical? First you say a little eyeliner would enhance their eyes, then you say live and let live. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but why should someone else adhere to your standards and perceptions of (what I'm assuming is) beauty? If you really believe "live and let live" then next time you have those kinds of thoughts about other people remind yourself that live and let live happens in the brain (i.e thoughts) first before it can manifest into action and reality. With that said, I'd give you a flower in the form of an emoticon if I knew the code. I don't want to upset you, I just wanted to point it out. We ALL do this in one way or another so I am really not trying to pick on you specifically. I think it just makes the point that those who don't wear make-up are often discussed more than those who do conform and apply make-up.
Aside from the really artistic make-up (because that is a different topic), wearing make-up adheres to a man-made (and consumer driven) perception of beauty. It is held together by our collective need for community (we wear similar uniforms---that can actually go for those who wear it and for those who don't). I don't think it is necessarily wrong or ugly to wear make-up (although animal testing is indeed very ugly), but I think if you care to be a reflective and broad-thinking individual it is important to know where the need to wear it is coming from. The reason you cannot say the same for non-makeup wearers is not wearing makeup is our natural state (it is similar to the argument of atheist and theist. Atheism is our natural state putting something on or believing in something above and beyond what we have or already know is a man-made construct. Please don't think I'm equating make-up with the belief in god, it was just an example). I know people will say crikey it's just make-up! Which is true, but like every decision we make there are actually deep personal, social, and political issues at play here if we care to use our critical thinking skills.
Gah, I can't believe I got roped into this thread! Okay that's all you'll hear from me--carry on wearing make-up or not~cheers all. 0 -
@Sick_Beard....You are getting an unfair lashing
A long time ago, and it still sticks with me to this day, someone said this to me at 13...and you reminded me of him....
(in a good way!)
"Make-up can be used to enhance beauty.....or cover up a whole lot of ugly!" 0 -
I've had so many compliments on my makeup today ALONE I'm probably going to keep doing it like this FORRRR-EVVAAAAH!!
Muwuwuwah, lovelies!
Beautious, but I think you need more lipstick.
Why thank you! Someone else said I should use the same shade for blush so I'll glob a few circles on my cheeks and see how it offsets my pukey green eye color. Great ideas... I'll do that tonight! Y'all are the best!0 -
And I have to say, I get irritated when I hear women say "I wear makeup because I want to look good and present myself well"
Well that's all nice and all.
But what is wrong with thinking the package is nice without all that makeup.
I don't wear makeup on a regular basis, and I present myself just fine.
^^A thousand times this!0 -
I've had so many compliments on my makeup today ALONE I'm probably going to keep doing it like this FORRRR-EVVAAAAH!!
Muwuwuwah, lovelies!
Beautious, but I think you need more lipstick.
Why thank you! Someone else said I should use the same shade for blush so I'll glob a few circles on my cheeks and see how it offsets my pukey green eye color. Great ideas... I'll do that tonight! Y'all are the best!
You look really pretty.0 -
To all the "who cares what other people do?" attitudes: personal actions do not exist in a vacuum. The things you do have an effect. If one woman puts on makeup because she thinks it makes her look and feel better, then another woman may see her, think the same, and also put on makeup, and so on. A feedback gets created where a made-up face becomes the standard of what looks better, so more women who don't wear it are made to feel insecure and end up wearing it. It is completely understandable that women would feel they are supposed to or need to wear it, but unfortunately they are then judged and criticized for not having confidence. It's hardly their fault when the public standard of what women should look like has become far from natural (look at any media) and they conform to that standard. However, they should recognize that by doing so, they inadvertently promote the standard and pressure others to buy into it.
And as for "who cares, it's just makeup" attitudes, nearly $170 billion US is spent globally on cosmetics and perfume each year. That's hardly trivial.0 -
Stupidest thing I've heard all day.
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And I have to say, I get irritated when I hear women say "I wear makeup because I want to look good and present myself well"
Well that's all nice and all.
But what is wrong with thinking the package is nice without all that makeup.
I don't wear makeup on a regular basis, and I present myself just fine.
^^A thousand times this!
A thousand, thousand times this.
Women who choose NOT to wear makeup should not be made to feel as if they aren't 'presenting' themselves well. That's nonsense. But women ARE made to feel as if makeup is a MUST. In big corporations and professional environments women are OFTEN pressured to wear makeup because without makeup they're considered to be 'unpolished'. Well that's nonsense and as a woman I absolutely hate it.
Isn't it bad enough I feel I'm not pretty because I'm fat? Now I have to feel like I'm not pretty because I don't wear make up too? REALLY?0 -
I like how most of the men seem to assume if we wear too much makeup we are insecure, etc.
What's so wrong about wanting to look nice. If we think we look nice with cover-up because it makes our skin look softer, eyeliner/mascara, because it defines our eyes, eyebrow liner because otherwise you can't see them or something or any makeup for any reason. Who cares?
The base point was, most times, we don't do it for other people.
Personally, I wear makeup so I look good for myself, I enjoy looking my best. But my opinion of looking my best is most likely entirely different than other people's. It varies with each individual person. So if we were trying to impress other people because we are insecure, it would be impossible.
You can't please everyone. So if we please ourselves with the amount or lack of makeup we use. That's all that matters.
You will never find a group of people who are 100% support of anything you do. So do things that make YOU happy.
/endrant
Btw, I'm new the forums, but hello
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HONESTLY...MAKE UP HAS BEEN AROUND SOOOOO LONGGGGGG NOW..... That I really don't understand why this is even being debated so long.
At one point for men and women. As high heels were first worn by men. (Butchers, to keep above the carnage) make up was once worn by men too for whatever reason specific to the many cultures.
It's really not a big deal.
Lets debate shampoo, deodorant, bathing or perfume next. Fashion? Powdered wigs?
I mean seriously.
*sorry if I sound cranky this time, I have a huge migraine from testing and techn complications*
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oh for f@cks sake......let people do what they want....why does it bother you! who cares!!!!0
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Well... You can wear as much makeup as you want... If it fits you and you apply it well. You can put on preconcealers of colour, preconcealers of light-shadow, foundation, concealers, powder, blush, eyeshadow, eyeliner, fake eyelashes, mascara for lashes, makeup for eyebrows, lipstick, gloss and shimmering powder... But be sure you make it in a right way.
For example: avoid to mix cold colours and warm colours... Use complimentary colours between the colours you're putting on for makeup... and the ones that fits with your skin tone, colour of eyes, hair's colour...
Word of Make Up Artist...
I completely disagree, I love to mix cool and warm colors! makes them pop!
I wear a full face every day for work (MAC) and I never do the same thing twice, makeup "rules" don't really exist.0 -
Personally I think makeup is a pain. I didn't need it when I was youger but as an older lady I kind of need it now when I get dressed up or sometimes I feel like looking better when I'm out running errands. But mostly I don't wear it. I find it to be a pain and I hate the chore of removing it.
I have some friends who wear it a lot, even to the gym. People judge them. But this one lady who cakes it on is just the sweetest lady in the world. I figure to each their own. Having this friend has helped me to learn to no judge others who wear it.0 -
I freaking love you. Over the years i have gotten really talented at applying makeup and i absolutely hate when people tell me i wear "too much." what they don't realize is that i have trichotillomania. i have to fill in my brows and wear false eyelashes everyday to look normal and not feel insecure. i even wear full makeup to the gym. i don't choose to, obviously..but that's what ive been dealing with for awhile now. I just have to brush off comments and accept the way i look. but i don't look too bad with it and can pull heavy makeup i kinda like feeling glamorous and turning heads! 0
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Not a fan of cake faces.0
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I love this.0
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A thousand, thousand times this.
Women who choose NOT to wear makeup should not be made to feel as if they aren't 'presenting' themselves well. That's nonsense. But women ARE made to feel as if makeup is a MUST. In big corporations and professional environments women are OFTEN pressured to wear makeup because without makeup they're considered to be 'unpolished'. Well that's nonsense and as a woman I absolutely hate it.
Isn't it bad enough I feel I'm not pretty because I'm fat? Now I have to feel like I'm not pretty because I don't wear make up too? REALLY?
I completely agree with you. The polished makeup thing must go. It's like there's some sort of programming out there that pushes women to wear makeup for everything from interviews to other business situations. In other words, we have no power unless we show our pretty side as opposed to using our brains. Men wear a nice suit, dress well, and go to interviews...we doll ourselves up and have to wear high heels that will kill our feet. It makes no sense. I look around at work and see women with makeup and high heels and they wear them for 8 hours....the guys...they're the smart ones wearing nice comfy loafers and they aren't as stressed out.
I've always been more of a Tomboy and I admit, I see a woman wearing full makeup hiking and I think "Are you nuts?" Usually, it's because I know the majority of it will melt off and also it's just not good for the skin if you're sweating. It's like women who wear makeup to go tubing or snorkeling. I mean...men don't do that. You'll never see a guy wearing foundation on a hike. The point is to enjoy the hike - not look like a super model during the hike. I also know I like guys who are more outdoorsy. The last thing I want to do is date someone who'll be upset if I don't look like a model every time I go out. I like me and hope he'll like me too - with or without makeup (preferably without).0 -
As a former MUA-makeup artist too much is relative. What is too much for one is just enough for others. When it's poorly applied that is when there is a issue. Makeup is a creative medium for me. I'm a canvas and the mu is my paint. I need some folks to get a life about what is right and wrong. Men don't know what is good or not either. I prefer a man who likes a woman who indulges in female pleasures ie shoes,clothing,hair and of course makeup and nail polish. How you present yourself to the world is up to you. But a bit of mascara won't destroy you nor make you look unnatural. It will actually make you look a bit more bright eyed and bushy tailed.0
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So you see someone with a lot of makeup on.
So get over yourself and next time, keep your mouth shut.
Well, damn! All I did was see someone with a lot of makeup on!
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Makeup is a creative medium for me. I'm a canvas and the mu is my paint. I need some folks to get a life about what is right and wrong. Men don't know what is good or not either. I prefer a man who likes a woman who indulges in female pleasures ie shoes,clothing,hair and of course makeup and nail polish.
I think this is the key...to each his own...some like it...some don't. Some of us see makeup and the whole bit as "female pleasures" while others see it as torture or worse. I prefer clothing that is comfortable, made of cotton (not artificial) and when and if I do wear makeup, it's a very, very light amount and usually mineral based. You couldn't pay me to wear nails...they bother me when I type and it's just too much money and work. I do like clothing that looks good...but I don't see that as a feminine pleasure because lots of guys like nice clothes too. As for shoes - I go for quality, comfort and look...if it hurts...you won't catch me in them. My feet are my temple...without them I can do nothing so I protect them by only putting them in the best. :laugh:0 -
Some of us are just plain janes without makeup. Such as eyebrows so blonde looks like there are none same with eyelashes. Very fair skin not a touch of pink anywhere in ones complection. So I have worn makeup all my life it's as common as puting on clothes.0
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I seriously don't get it. I wear makeup when I feel it is appropriate, in the evening when going out, different makeup for business during the day (much lighter), I go without it a good deal of the time when I am not going anywhere. I never wear it at the gym.
It takes me about 5 minutes to put it on, it adds a finishing accent to an outfit, tying colors together to bring out a particular look I am going for. Seriously I don't think a little color makes me look that different, just accents that which is already there, and I don't wear it for the men anyway. I simply like the artistry of cosmetics, just as I like the artistry of many other things.0 -
Ah! But did you see the 'someone' or the 'makeup'?So you see someone with a lot of makeup on.
So get over yourself and next time, keep your mouth shut.
Well, damn! All I did was see someone with a lot of makeup on!0 -
Ah! But did you see the 'someone' or the 'makeup'?So you see someone with a lot of makeup on.
So get over yourself and next time, keep your mouth shut.
Well, damn! All I did was see someone with a lot of makeup on!
Do you ever really see the person, or simply the projection of your bias upon them.
And hopefully that ends the puerile and sophomoric "analysis" of human nature in this thread.
(But probably not.)0 -
Sorry to say, but if you restrict your make-up to "your colors" for the purpose of coming off/looking a certain way, that sort of ruins the argument of you using it for self expression. You aren't really expressing yourself when you stifle it because someone says "That's not your color". Just my opinion.I love putting on eye-makeup! Matching eye shadows to my outfit, nail polish, going to the tanner, going clothes shopping, wearing high heels, getting my hair done..etc. I love going with my friends to get pedicures. It's so fun. I love it! If you don't, you don't have to hang out with me or know me, if you don't want to.
Seriously? Matching eye shadow to your outfit is...not good. I'm trying to be polite here.
A friend told me that. something about only wear 'your colors' on your eyes... my response was "what if I only wear 'my colors' for my clothes? then I am matching my outfit and still wering 'my colors'. The eyeshadow colors she said are 'my colors' are pretty much in tune with the clothes colors I wear anyway. (But I only wear eyeshadow about once a month, time is an issue for me. I'd seriously rather sleep an extra 3 minutes.)0
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