If I Gave You Poison Would You Eat It?

RedHeadDevotchka · December 2012

farmer's feeding cows candy

that's kind of a sweet thing to do. get it?

Agh, clever

WinnerVictorious · December 2012

true. and i'm perfectly willing to concede that the lady whose post i was replying to is very nice and very sincere in her beliefs, but statements like that one need to be backed up by facts. if it can't be, then perhaps the problem is with the source of the beliefs.

By the way, your profile picture is fantastic.

:blushing:

pullipgirl · December 2012

raw cashews are poisonous

Rocbola · December 2012

don't you wonder why no one agrees with you?

I have noticed that many people have their heads buried in the sand and that is nothing new. If everybody agreed with me, the two leading causes of death in this country wouldn't be heart disease and cancer. I think the rampant nutritional ignorance in this country, and on this site, is sad.

n0ob · December 2012

So, anybody here eat corn or peanuts?

Because if you do, you eat measurable quantities of the most potent liver carcinogen known, in aflatoxin B1

So, still gonna eat corn and peanuts? I am...

Verity1111 · December 2012

Best one I've seen yet. You win the internetz. :bigsmile:

YOU'RE GOIN' TO HOLLYWOOD!

Dave198lbs · December 2012

don't you wonder why no one agrees with you?

I have noticed that many people have their heads buried in the sand and that is nothing new. If everybody agreed with me, the two leading causes of death in this country wouldn't be heart disease and cancer. I think the rampant nutritional ignorance in this country, and on this site, is sad.

I agree that there is a lot of nutritional ignorance everywhere.

But if you want to change the hearts and minds, try picking one poison at a time and giving some evidence.

Blanket approaches rarely work with anything.

jjpavio · December 2012

I'd eat it all and the go back for seconds. I guess that's why I need MFP...

Why would I eat it all? When I was little, my mother told me "Every day you live, you're a day closer to dying", so I take it that I need to enjoy each and every day because the number of days is limited. BRING ON THE BACON WRAPPED BACON!!!! (in moderation, of course.)

Rocbola · December 2012

I get your point OP... but... everybody dies... May as well enjoy it.

But, eating a healthy diet with little to no crap in it, allows you to enjoy it more, because you have more energy, more happiness, and hopefully more years.

Is the short term pleasure of tasting something delicious worth the pain it causes later on? Can't you derive the same, or similar, taste pleasure from a well prepared, fresh, healthy food?

Rocbola · December 2012

don't you wonder why no one agrees with you?

I have noticed that many people have their heads buried in the sand and that is nothing new. If everybody agreed with me, the two leading causes of death in this country wouldn't be heart disease and cancer. I think the rampant nutritional ignorance in this country, and on this site, is sad.

I agree that there is a lot of nutritional ignorance everywhere.

But if you want to change the hearts and minds, try picking one poison at a time and giving some evidence.

Blanket approaches rarely work with anything.

Fair enough. I know my approach rubs a lot of people the wrong way, every time i post a thread like this, i get a few friend requests and private messages from people who want to know more, so i know there are those who read and agree but don't want to speak up in such a harsh forum, as MFP can be sometimes.

I really should be citing my sources but honestly i'm lazy and that takes a while, and i don't care to put that much effort into an internet forum where most people will disregard it anyway. I have cited sources many times and the ones who are stuck on whatever diet they have been sold on are not going to listen anyway. The open minded ones know how to use google.

MariaMariaM · December 2012

My goal is to eat as natural as possible. I'm a label reader but not because my priority is to know calorie, fat or carb content but because I like to know what I'm eating.
I know when eating out things are out of my control but when I go to the store only natural (organic if possible) make to my cart. For products that are known to be GMO, I only buy organic or with the Non GMo label.

Rocbola · December 2012

So, anybody here eat corn or peanuts?

Because if you do, you eat measurable quantities of the most potent liver carcinogen known, in aflatoxin B1

So, still gonna eat corn and peanuts? I am...

Colin Campbell of Cornell University did a study with groups of mice exposed to aflatoxin given various diets, and showed that, at least in mice, the introduction of the carcinogen was not the biggest predictor in whether or not the mice got cancer, but rather what kind of diets they were on. When given cancer promoting diets, they developed cancer, however, the control group exposed to the same level of aflatoxin, did NOT develop the cancers.

InPieces3 · December 2012

I get your point OP... but... everybody dies... May as well enjoy it.

But, eating a healthy diet with little to no crap in it, allows you to enjoy it more, because you have more energy, more happiness, and hopefully more years.

Is the short term pleasure of tasting something delicious worth the pain it causes later on? Can't you derive the same, or similar, taste pleasure from a well prepared, fresh, healthy food?

I'm siding with you on this. I've read tons of articles stating the same thing you are saying. Studies actually have been done to numerous people all over the world taking a 30 day challenge to eating nothing but processed, or packaged food. They have all said they feel like crap eating like that... as they should. Is it poisonous? I'm sure if they ate that long term it could most definitely prove to be dangerous to ones health. Heart attacks, strokes, diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol.

THAT right there should be enough for people to turn away from the foods that cause those things. I get what you are saying and I'm agreeing with you 100%. Slowly but surely it does have an affect on a person's health. I cut out aspartame and I don't have headaches anymore. I cut out microwavable food and I don't have problems with my stomach anymore. ::Shrugs:: To each their own I guess on this. If it doesn't bother some, then by all means let them keep on that path. I'm learning more and more from being on this site that what necessarily is right for me, isn't for others. My personal opinion is agreeing with you, but that is all it is... my opinion. Keep on doing what you are doing, and if it feels right for you... by all means, keep up the great work of feeling awesome.

:flowerforyou:

RedHeadDevotchka · December 2012

I went vegan for 6 months and couldn't handle it so i did try tour lifestyle. however, My blood pressure, cholesterol, etc are all fine as is my blood sugar even though I eat meat and dairy. My sister is a vegetarian and quite heavy and unhealthy, she eats plenty of fruits and veggies but she over eats and doesn't exercise. So I'm gonna stick with what works for me and that includes bacon, meat, and the likes!

MariaMariaM · December 2012

This doesn't necessarily mean a vegan/vegetarian lifestyle. I eat meat and lots if it but I make sure it is free of sulfites and uncured. Meat, I prefer grass fed.

Louisianababy93 · December 2012

i agree, that this is crap and that you can eat whatever you want...
ever hear of iifym, yeah! do that *kitten*.

your body breaks down all the food the same way.
your body isnt like omg,she ate mcdonalds,lets change the way "we" break it down..
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cedarghost · December 2012

You have smoked yourself retarded......

RiverDancer68 · December 2012

Vizzini: IT HAS WORKED! YOU'VE GIVEN EVERYTHING AWAY! I KNOW WHERE THE POISON IS!
Man in Black: Then make your choice.
Vizzini: I will, and I choose - What in the world can that be?
Man in Black: [Vizzini gestures up and away from the table. Roberts looks. Vizzini swaps the goblets]
Man in Black: What? Where? I don't see anything.
Vizzini: Well, I- I could have sworn I saw something. No matter. First, let's drink. Me from my glass, and you from yours.
Man in Black, Vizzini: [Vizzini and the Man in Black drink]
Man in Black: You guessed wrong.
Vizzini: You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched glasses when your back was turned! Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...
Vizzini: [Vizzini stops suddenly, his smile frozen on his face and falls to the ground dead]
Buttercup: And to think, all that time it was your cup that was poisoned.
Man in Black: They were both poisoned. I spent the last few years building up an immunity to iocane powder.

Princess Bride

You rock :drinker:

n0ob · December 2012

So, anybody here eat corn or peanuts?

Because if you do, you eat measurable quantities of the most potent liver carcinogen known, in aflatoxin B1

So, still gonna eat corn and peanuts? I am...

Colin Campbell of Cornell University did a study with groups of mice exposed to aflatoxin given various diets, and showed that, at least in mice, the introduction of the carcinogen was not the biggest predictor in whether or not the mice got cancer, but rather what kind of diets they were on. When given cancer promoting diets, they developed cancer, however, the control group exposed to the same level of aflatoxin, did NOT develop the cancers.

Yeah, and if I get hit by a car and die tomorrow, I won't be getting cancer either...(more relevant statement to this discussion than you might think).

shawnteahsing · December 2012

Doesn't anyone read the warning labels on items? Things are posionous or cause cancer only in the state of California!

djkshdfd · December 2012

I think the point of the post may not be to say you cannot eat it, but more of how it is tragic the way food is produced and marketed these days.

Rocbola · December 2012

Studies actually have been done to numerous people all over the world taking a 30 day challenge to eating nothing but processed, or packaged food. They have all said they feel like crap eating like that... as they should. Is it poisonous? I'm sure if they ate that long term it could most definitely prove to be dangerous to ones health. Heart attacks, strokes, diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol.

THAT right there should be enough for people to turn away from the foods that cause those things. I get what you are saying and I'm agreeing with you 100%. Slowly but surely it does have an affect on a person's health. I cut out aspartame and I don't have headaches anymore. I cut out microwavable food and I don't have problems with my stomach anymore. ::Shrugs:: To each their own I guess on this. If it doesn't bother some, then by all means let them keep on that path. I'm learning more and more from being on this site that what necessarily is right for me, isn't for others. My personal opinion is agreeing with you, but that is all it is... my opinion. Keep on doing what you are doing, and if it feels right for you... by all means, keep up the great work of feeling awesome.

:flowerforyou:

Voice of reason - Thanks.

shawnteahsing · December 2012

Doesn't anyone read the warning labels on items? Things are posionous or cause cancer only in the state of California!

tmauck4472 · December 2012

I eat pretty clean, not 100% though. I love bacon and ham and salt. I eat canned tuna and packaged salmon. But I prefer fresh over canned anyday. Before I wouldn't eat veggies cause they were out of can, now I buy fresh and enjoy my veggies. I don't eat from BK or Micky D's or the like, just my choice and I no longer crave those foods. I cut sugar out processed or not calories or not. I have MIO in one glass of water everyday or every other day just to get somthing different, but I'll stop that soon and just go back to water. I won't say all these things are poison but I will say I feel better not eating them. Stop eating sugar, stop craving sugar. Stop eating the processed foods you'll quit craving the processed foods. IMO fresh just tastes better and I control what goes in it. The things I can't control is things I don't worry about. Not giving up meat or my yogurt cause that's things I enjoy and not willing to give them up.

Firefox7275 · December 2012

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Would you eat processed food, preservatives, flavor enhancers, meats, dairy, refined grains, oils, aspartame, sugar, pesticides or HFCS in any of the above circumstances?
Why or why not?

Processed food - huge category, some in moderation, some I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole
Preservatives - yes, see above
Flavour enhancers - yes, see above
Meats/ dairy - man evolved to be omnivorous, the effects of B12, DHA and EPA are a big clue
Refined grains - not at home
Oils - coconut and red palm for cooking but most fats in their natural forms
Aspartame - no, don't like the side effects
Sugar - never add any but do consume in moderation
Pesticides - yes or I would starve
HFCS - try not to.

Not sure what that little exercise achieved since you don't know what my definition of moderation is, nor anything about my knowledge base, lifestyle, budget or local availability of healthy wholefoods.

SarahAFerguson · December 2012

Stressing out too much over food choices will likely cause cancer as well. It is impossible to eliminate all risk factors and by eliminating one risk factor you may introduce another. Sure there are healthier choices, but you can do everything right and still get sick. Do what you need to do to be at peace with yourself and the world around you.