If I Gave You Poison Would You Eat It?
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I don't think anyone here is opposed to eating healthy foods, like fruits and vegetables. That's the point of MFP, encouraging healthier lifestyles. I don't think anyone here really believes processed, chemical laden foods are the way to go. The key, as many have pointed out, is to remember that what works best and is healthiest for some is not what's best for others.
For example, I bet you eat something that is absolutely poisonous to me - citrus and pineapples. They will kill me within minutes, so I don't eat them, but I will never berate others for choosing to do so.0 -
Yup. So much scare-mongering. It's scientists jobs to correlate information wherever they can, which is why you'll find that - OMG! - people who eat things that MOST people eat get sick and die and have illnesses. *yawn* There's so much fear. If eating clean makes you feel good, fine. If worshipping your deity or none makes you feel good, great. Stop trying to convert people, be it with food, religion or fecking whatever. Same old crapola, you think you're doing everyone a favour. yeah, yeah.Over-dramatic, condescending, worthless "information".0 -
Processed, chemical laden food beats the **** out of spoiled, wasted food and food that makes it to the consumer laden with microbes (far greater concern in foods than any chemical will EVER be).0
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Only if it tasted like bacon.
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I think a little poison is good - one needs to build up their immunity to it to ward off any would-be homicide attempts, I've watched enough Snapped, I know how it works.
*CACKLE* I was watching Snapped and eating red velvet cake when I read this. No joke!0 -
I could get run over by a bus tomorrow and have spent hours agonising over every bite I put in my mouth, checking every label and bit of packaging for toxins. Do you know how many fumes we breathe in on a daily basis just from going outdoors? What about chemicals used in clothing production ? I think one can take things to too great an extreme, and plenty of people who have a lifetime of eating meat, dairy and even packaged foods, are living into their 80s and 90s, while plenty of health crazy runners and athletes drop dead from heart attacks.
This. Not endorsing his lifestyle by any means, and I'm not saying it's a good idea to live this way, but my grandfather, who was a bartender and worked full time until the day he turned 85 years old, smoked his whole life, drank his whole life, partied like it was 1999 every weekend, ate McDonald's on an every other day basis, never stepped foot in a gym, and was a good 75 pounds overweight the latter half of his life, lived to be 90 years old. Contrast that with my grandmother, who I never got to meet, who didn't drink, didn't smoke, wasn't overweight, and died suddenly at the age of 37 from a cardiac arrest. Live your life!!0 -
The body is equipped to handle microbes, but man-made chemicals have only been in human's food for a short while. If you come across spoiled natural food, you wont eat it, because your body knows what ripe food tastes like, and what spoiled food tastes like. Food chemicals and processed animal secretions are blended into processed foods that taste delicious and don't cause a disgust response.Processed, chemical laden food beats the **** out of spoiled, wasted food and food that makes it to the consumer laden with microbes (far greater concern in foods than any chemical will EVER be).0 -
All Sunday, every Sunday :drinker:I think a little poison is good - one needs to build up their immunity to it to ward off any would-be homicide attempts, I've watched enough Snapped, I know how it works.
*CACKLE* I was watching Snapped and eating red velvet cake when I read this. No joke!0 -
Saving my spot to read this later...you all are cracking me up :laugh: :laugh:0
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The body is equipped to handle microbes, but man-made chemicals have only been in human's food for a short while. If you come across spoiled natural food, you wont eat it, because your body knows what ripe food tastes like, and what spoiled food tastes like. Food chemicals and processed animal secretions are blended into processed foods that taste delicious and don't cause a disgust response.Processed, chemical laden food beats the **** out of spoiled, wasted food and food that makes it to the consumer laden with microbes (far greater concern in foods than any chemical will EVER be).
Yeah, listeria, salmonella and ecoli 157:H7 do wonders for the body..
And many of our ancestors died from eating plants that aren't edible...
People all over the world eat spoiled food all the time for survival.0 -
Only if it tasted like bacon.
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I'll take my order super sized
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Everyone who eats carrots will die. True fax.0
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I recommend a college education so that you can learn what scientific journal articles are and how to properly read and interpret them. Also, throwing in a physiology and genetics class wouldn't be a bad idea either.0
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I recommend a college education so that you can learn what scientific journal articles are and how to properly read and interpret them. Also, throwing in a physiology and genetics class wouldn't be a bad idea either.
And if you can't afford the time.money to do a full college course, try reading 'Bad Science' by Ben Goldacre. It's funny, accessible, relevant and doesn't have an agenda. It will also teach you transferable skills in reading scientific papers and science journalism.0 -
I recommend a college education so that you can learn what scientific journal articles are and how to properly read and interpret them. Also, throwing in a physiology and genetics class wouldn't be a bad idea either.
And if you can't afford the time.money to do a full college course, try reading 'Bad Science' by Ben Goldacre. It's funny, accessible, relevant and doesn't have an agenda. It will also teach you transferable skills in reading scientific papers and science journalism.
Oh, this ^^^^^0 -
I don't really have an opinion on this as I do not know that much about it, but I would prefer to read about what the OP considers to be good to eat rather than read about what he considers as poison. Just my two cents.0
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The body is equipped to handle microbes, but man-made chemicals have only been in human's food for a short while. If you come across spoiled natural food, you wont eat it, because your body knows what ripe food tastes like, and what spoiled food tastes like. Food chemicals and processed animal secretions are blended into processed foods that taste delicious and don't cause a disgust response.Processed, chemical laden food beats the **** out of spoiled, wasted food and food that makes it to the consumer laden with microbes (far greater concern in foods than any chemical will EVER be).
That's not true though is it. People eat spoiled food and die from it (3000 will die in America this year form food poisoning and as much as 1 in 6 will suffer from food poisoning) I'd hate to think how much worse it would be without preservatives.
I put a lot of time into reading reports and studies that support a vegan lifestyle and are anti the modern american diet. I struggled to find one that wasn't a poor study. Also in every one the conclusions weren't backed up by the facts.
They did prove that having a lower cholesterol and a lower body fat was a good idea and that having the kind of diet you are talking about is ONE way of achieving this goal. The other way is to not eat too much fat or too many calories. There is no reason why anyone should give up things that give them pleasure as long as they don't do it too much.
I like to drink, but these days I'll wait til the end of the day and see how many calories I have left so I don't kill my diet.
I really enjoy cocaine, or MDMA and maybe once every year or so I'll have some. I won't suffer harmful side effects because the body is amazing at sorting itself out
I drank too much on Friday and spend Saturday eating too much crap to feel better (Large McDonalds Meal with full fat coke and nuggets, then later chips, chicken wrap and donna meat wrap) it put me about 600 calories over for the day but I made sure I was under the day before and the day after so my weekly figures and still on track. It won't harm me and the psychological effect of eating food like that is positive. It also means that I'm more likely to stick to my diet when I have days like this every now and then.
IIFYM for the win0 -
If I cut out meat and dairy and anything else you consider "poison", I would be anorexic........and dead.
You can put whatever you want into your body. Why not have the consideration to let others do the same?
Fear-mongering is pathetic and does NOTHING but make people want to avoid you like the plague.0 -
id drink the poison all day every day! poison FTW!!0
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I was convinced when reading this it was going to be about smoking.0
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I always though that guy was rocking some funky 'stache. Now, I see it is his arms! THANK YOU!!!0 -
What if it was a really slow acting poison, and you wouldn't get sick until you were older?
What if i gave it to you in a very small dose?
What if i made it taste really, REALLY good?
No, no and no.Would it be OK as long as it was in moderation?
I have no idea since you haven't mentioned dose or context.What if i convinced you it was "manly" to eat the poison?
I'm manly enough as is.What if i paid celebrities to tell you that they enjoyed the good taste of the slow-acting poison?
That would be silly.What if i paid celebrities to tell you that the poison was not poison at all, but was in fact actually health food?
I would then say you're a bad person and I'd fart in your general direction. If you did the above.
On that note, If I Farted Would You Smell It? That'd be a good thread.What if you had been unknowingly eating this poison your whole life, and didn't even know what it felt like to be free from it?
I'd be dead. It's poison. Unless I'm consuming a safe dose, but you've never mentioned dose or context.If you answer "NO" to any of the above questions:
Would you eat processed food, preservatives, flavor enhancers, meats, dairy, refined grains, oils, aspartame, sugar, pesticides or HFCS in any of the above circumstances?
Why or why not?
I consume all of the above, none of which have anything to do with your previous questions.
Remember that time when I mentioned dose and context? This concept is one you should familiarize yourself with. As of now, in this post and in other posts, you haven't made any reference to it.0 -
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someday, hopefully, you will be released from the bondage of whatever book or website you have been getting your information from and look back on these posts and wonder how you ever made it through the day.
these assertions that meats and dairy cause cancer are over blown and in most cases that have any relationship with reality, even absurd.
don't you wonder why no one agrees with you?
^^^ This.
Absolutely this!!!
but the interesting part is that we are also being "fed" bad information based on either bad or no science at all. Nearly all of the diet plans are based at least partially on a hypothesis - not facts -. The nutrition science is actually a fledgling science and it is way more complicated than any one wants to admit. Most are trying to simplify the truth to come up with a solid irrefutable plan but in doing so all seem to have to tell partial truths or flat out lies. We all need to be very careful about what we believe.0 -
I'm gutted that chocolate isn't on your list. You would have to eat a lot in one go for it to kill you, but it really is poisonous. And it's not because of the sugar, fat, processing of whatever. Try feeding chocolate to a beloved pet. I genuinely believe it's more dangerous than anything you listed.
At the end of the day it's not really going to harm you though. I eat it daily.0 -
Vizzini: IT HAS WORKED! YOU'VE GIVEN EVERYTHING AWAY! I KNOW WHERE THE POISON IS!
Man in Black: Then make your choice.
Vizzini: I will, and I choose - What in the world can that be?
Man in Black: [Vizzini gestures up and away from the table. Roberts looks. Vizzini swaps the goblets]
Man in Black: What? Where? I don't see anything.
Vizzini: Well, I- I could have sworn I saw something. No matter. First, let's drink. Me from my glass, and you from yours.
Man in Black, Vizzini: [Vizzini and the Man in Black drink]
Man in Black: You guessed wrong.
Vizzini: You only think I guessed wrong! That's what's so funny! I switched glasses when your back was turned! Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...
Vizzini: [Vizzini stops suddenly, his smile frozen on his face and falls to the ground dead]
Buttercup: And to think, all that time it was your cup that was poisoned.
Man in Black: They were both poisoned. I spent the last few years building up an immunity to iocane powder.
So one of the greatest quotes from one of the best films/books ever!!! :-)0 -
keyword: digitalis ... it is not always the substance that is the poison but the dose ...0
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If you cut out all the poisons, you would not be anorexic, in fact you would be healthier, haha. Really? Do people actually believe that oils, food chemicals and processed animal parts are necessary for their diet?If I cut out meat and dairy and anything else you consider "poison", I would be anorexic........and dead.
You can put whatever you want into your body. Why not have the consideration to let others do the same?
Fear-mongering is pathetic and does NOTHING but make people want to avoid you like the plague.
Can you please quote the part where i asked others to change their diet? Because i must have missed that part. I started a 'why-or-why-not?" discussion. If seems you inferred something different than what i wrote.0 -
Everyone who eats carrots will die. True fax.
Everyone who doesn't eat carrots will die. True fact.0
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