is it my fault she died?

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  • LilynEdensmom
    LilynEdensmom Posts: 612 Member
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    No no no no not your fault.....Your friend had a heart condition, nothing you did or said would change the outcome.
  • BorderlineAngel
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    I was legitametely asking a question.

    By the way, look up Borderline Personality Disorder before judging. I can't help the way that I am...

    Thats the thing, you CAN help the way you are. You CAN get the proper help. You are an adult, so getting the proper help you need and making sure you do the things you need to do is all up to you. As with taking advice from others.

    Using your illness as an excuse is just wrong. It is only a crutch if you make it so.

    And yes I know this because I am mentally ill and have been for the last 14 years. It is up to you to change things when it comes to your illness.

    I go to a psychologist every week and am on medication.. how is that not getting proper help?
  • Starla_
    Starla_ Posts: 349
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    shes already posted this same topic before, under her previous name beautyfrompain, as she has already posted the majority of topics she posts.

    She needs to have proper professional help, probably staying in the psych ward would have been a better suggestion than trying to deal with things on your own BorderlineAngel. eheadspace is open still if you really need it (i googled it).

    As once a friend when you mention inconsistancies you get deleted or when you try to really help instead of pandering to her poor you feelings or agreeing with everything she says or you get deleted. I was.

    She also created this before this profile http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/821954-does-anyone-know-what-happened-to-beautyfrompain?

    So yeah. Lovely to see the amount of people that like to help people on here, but when your help gets abused or you continually seeing someone abusing the system you do tend to get a little jaded when it comes to them in particular.

    It makes sense that she'd create a topic multiple times if she is still struggling with it. She has mentioned she is seeking professional help. If she did create a thread asking what happened to her former profile, maybe she was curious to see what others thought about her.

    I think it's fine if you don't want to get involved with OP. But why not just leave it alone? No one here is hurting themselves by offering her support.

    There are other websites better equipped for mental health advice and help, sites which actually have trained people to talk with. If the same posts keep coming up here then there are obviously problems that the OP cannot deal with herself but also the people on here are unable to help with too.

    BorderlineAngel do you tell your psychologist about the forum posts you make on this site? If you don't, you really should because it is like a blog, they would be able to see how you think and feel in another situation and how you cope as well.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,114 Member
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    I was legitametely asking a question.

    By the way, look up Borderline Personality Disorder before judging. I can't help the way that I am...

    Thats the thing, you CAN help the way you are. You CAN get the proper help. You are an adult, so getting the proper help you need and making sure you do the things you need to do is all up to you. As with taking advice from others.

    Using your illness as an excuse is just wrong. It is only a crutch if you make it so.

    And yes I know this because I am mentally ill and have been for the last 14 years. It is up to you to change things when it comes to your illness.

    This.

    Also, ^^this^^.

    The problem is that this type of personality thrives on attention and drama. By posting on an anonymous online forum, she gets the attention. It isn't helping her. All of you who are saying, "Oh, poor her, we will support her." ...are making her worse. She doesn't need online sympathy. She doesn't need you to enable her disordered thinking. She needs to deal with her issues head-on. Only SHE can cure herself. Stop feeding into the disorder by sympathizing over and over on her multiple threads. She can get better. She needs to be in intensive therapy. This type of drama only stirs up users.
  • DoingitWell
    DoingitWell Posts: 560 Member
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    I think I can move on now. It's so easy to call someone a troll when they don't defend themselves. My point was made. You have a good night. Thanks, your assistance was awesome. Bye.
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,229 Member
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    shes already posted this same topic before, under her previous name beautyfrompain, as she has already posted the majority of topics she posts.

    She needs to have proper professional help, probably staying in the psych ward would have been a better suggestion than trying to deal with things on your own BorderlineAngel. eheadspace is open still if you really need it (i googled it).

    As once a friend when you mention inconsistancies you get deleted or when you try to really help instead of pandering to her poor you feelings or agreeing with everything she says or you get deleted. I was.

    She also created this before this profile http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/821954-does-anyone-know-what-happened-to-beautyfrompain?

    So yeah. Lovely to see the amount of people that like to help people on here, but when your help gets abused or you continually seeing someone abusing the system you do tend to get a little jaded when it comes to them in particular.

    It makes sense that she'd create a topic multiple times if she is still struggling with it. She has mentioned she is seeking professional help. If she did create a thread asking what happened to her former profile, maybe she was curious to see what others thought about her.

    I think it's fine if you don't want to get involved with OP. But why not just leave it alone? No one here is hurting themselves by offering her support.

    There are other websites better equipped for mental health advice and help, sites which actually have trained people to talk with. If the same posts keep coming up here then there are obviously problems that the OP cannot deal with herself but also the people on here are unable to help with too.

    BorderlineAngel do you tell your psychologist about the forum posts you make on this site? If you don't, you really should because it is like a blog, they would be able to see how you think and feel in another situation and how you cope as well.

    While I agree that she could seek out more appropriate outlets, I don't see anything wrong with her seeking support here. I'm sure your suggestion will motivate her to look elsewhere for help so that in and of itself made this thread productive. The only problem that I have with her posting here is that she leaves herself vulnerable to self-proclaimed troll destroyers that might attack her for the simple sake of their own satisfaction.
  • Starla_
    Starla_ Posts: 349
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    I was legitametely asking a question.

    By the way, look up Borderline Personality Disorder before judging. I can't help the way that I am...

    Thats the thing, you CAN help the way you are. You CAN get the proper help. You are an adult, so getting the proper help you need and making sure you do the things you need to do is all up to you. As with taking advice from others.

    Using your illness as an excuse is just wrong. It is only a crutch if you make it so.

    And yes I know this because I am mentally ill and have been for the last 14 years. It is up to you to change things when it comes to your illness.

    This.

    Also, ^^this^^.

    The problem is that this type of personality thrives on attention and drama. By posting on an anonymous online forum, she gets the attention. It isn't helping her. All of you who are saying, "Oh, poor her, we will support her." ...are making her worse. She doesn't need online sympathy. She doesn't need you to enable her disordered thinking. She needs to deal with her issues head-on. Only SHE can cure herself. Stop feeding into the disorder by sympathizing over and over on her multiple threads. She can get better. She needs to be in intensive therapy. This type of drama only stirs up users.

    This exactly ^ Thankyou.
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,229 Member
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    I was legitametely asking a question.

    By the way, look up Borderline Personality Disorder before judging. I can't help the way that I am...

    Thats the thing, you CAN help the way you are. You CAN get the proper help. You are an adult, so getting the proper help you need and making sure you do the things you need to do is all up to you. As with taking advice from others.

    Using your illness as an excuse is just wrong. It is only a crutch if you make it so.

    And yes I know this because I am mentally ill and have been for the last 14 years. It is up to you to change things when it comes to your illness.

    This.

    Also, ^^this^^.

    The problem is that this type of personality thrives on attention and drama. By posting on an anonymous online forum, she gets the attention. It isn't helping her. All of you who are saying, "Oh, poor her, we will support her." ...are making her worse. She doesn't need online sympathy. She doesn't need you to enable her disordered thinking. She needs to deal with her issues head-on. Only SHE can cure herself. Stop feeding into the disorder by sympathizing over and over on her multiple threads. She can get better. She needs to be in intensive therapy. This type of drama only stirs up users.

    I'm sorry. I didn't catch your psych credentials. I'm pretty sure alienating her won't be anymore helpful. You have no right to tell her that she can't post on a public forum or that we can't lend her support.
  • gertudejekyl
    gertudejekyl Posts: 386 Member
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    it could be ..... let us all reflect on this..
  • BorderlineAngel
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    Geez..
    I was simply asking a legitimate question...
  • Shayztar
    Shayztar Posts: 415 Member
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    LOLZ

    Of all the mental health issues, Borderline Personality Disorder seems the most fun.
  • Starla_
    Starla_ Posts: 349
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    shes already posted this same topic before, under her previous name beautyfrompain, as she has already posted the majority of topics she posts.

    She needs to have proper professional help, probably staying in the psych ward would have been a better suggestion than trying to deal with things on your own BorderlineAngel. eheadspace is open still if you really need it (i googled it).

    As once a friend when you mention inconsistancies you get deleted or when you try to really help instead of pandering to her poor you feelings or agreeing with everything she says or you get deleted. I was.

    She also created this before this profile http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/821954-does-anyone-know-what-happened-to-beautyfrompain?

    So yeah. Lovely to see the amount of people that like to help people on here, but when your help gets abused or you continually seeing someone abusing the system you do tend to get a little jaded when it comes to them in particular.

    It makes sense that she'd create a topic multiple times if she is still struggling with it. She has mentioned she is seeking professional help. If she did create a thread asking what happened to her former profile, maybe she was curious to see what others thought about her.

    I think it's fine if you don't want to get involved with OP. But why not just leave it alone? No one here is hurting themselves by offering her support.

    There are other websites better equipped for mental health advice and help, sites which actually have trained people to talk with. If the same posts keep coming up here then there are obviously problems that the OP cannot deal with herself but also the people on here are unable to help with too.

    BorderlineAngel do you tell your psychologist about the forum posts you make on this site? If you don't, you really should because it is like a blog, they would be able to see how you think and feel in another situation and how you cope as well.

    While I agree that she could seek out more appropriate outlets, I don't see anything wrong with her seeking support here. I'm sure your suggestion will motivate her to look elsewhere for help so that in and of itself made this thread productive. The only problem that I have with her posting here is that she leaves herself vulnerable to self-proclaimed troll destroyers that might attack her for the simple sake of their own satisfaction.

    To be honest I keep seeing her pop up asking the same questions and contradicting herself and new groups of people telling her what she wants to hear over and and over again for over a year now. Posting in the general threads for serious mental help shouldn't be done and people should be redirected to groups on here (which she already knows about) or other sites better equipped.

    Yes mental health is a huge thing when it comes to overall health and losing weight but serious problems need more specialised support. Not the type where it is possible for anyone to make a smart *kitten* comment and potentially cause more damage to the OP.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    Geez..
    I was simply asking a legitimate question...

    Why didn't you speak to someone who lived in the same area or to your family about this? Just curious.
  • FlaxMilk
    FlaxMilk Posts: 3,452 Member
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    Of course if this were the only place she were seeking help it would be inappropriate. No one here can help her on an individual level. That's why it's not up to any of us to treat her condition. She's not asking us to. No one got very dramatic here, including OP.
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,229 Member
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    Geez..
    I was simply asking a legitimate question...

    Don't sweat it! Just know that your friend's death was not your fault and try to seek out some better outlets to discuss it.
  • FlaxMilk
    FlaxMilk Posts: 3,452 Member
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    Not the type where it is possible for anyone to make a smart *kitten* comment and potentially cause more damage to the OP.

    I agree with this completely, I wouldn't ask a sensitive question on this forum myself. But since she did, it doesn't cost me anything to give her a response.
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,229 Member
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    shes already posted this same topic before, under her previous name beautyfrompain, as she has already posted the majority of topics she posts.

    She needs to have proper professional help, probably staying in the psych ward would have been a better suggestion than trying to deal with things on your own BorderlineAngel. eheadspace is open still if you really need it (i googled it).

    As once a friend when you mention inconsistancies you get deleted or when you try to really help instead of pandering to her poor you feelings or agreeing with everything she says or you get deleted. I was.

    She also created this before this profile http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/821954-does-anyone-know-what-happened-to-beautyfrompain?

    So yeah. Lovely to see the amount of people that like to help people on here, but when your help gets abused or you continually seeing someone abusing the system you do tend to get a little jaded when it comes to them in particular.

    It makes sense that she'd create a topic multiple times if she is still struggling with it. She has mentioned she is seeking professional help. If she did create a thread asking what happened to her former profile, maybe she was curious to see what others thought about her.

    I think it's fine if you don't want to get involved with OP. But why not just leave it alone? No one here is hurting themselves by offering her support.

    There are other websites better equipped for mental health advice and help, sites which actually have trained people to talk with. If the same posts keep coming up here then there are obviously problems that the OP cannot deal with herself but also the people on here are unable to help with too.

    BorderlineAngel do you tell your psychologist about the forum posts you make on this site? If you don't, you really should because it is like a blog, they would be able to see how you think and feel in another situation and how you cope as well.

    While I agree that she could seek out more appropriate outlets, I don't see anything wrong with her seeking support here. I'm sure your suggestion will motivate her to look elsewhere for help so that in and of itself made this thread productive. The only problem that I have with her posting here is that she leaves herself vulnerable to self-proclaimed troll destroyers that might attack her for the simple sake of their own satisfaction.

    To be honest I keep seeing her pop up asking the same questions and contradicting herself and new groups of people telling her what she wants to hear over and and over again for over a year now. Posting in the general threads for serious mental help shouldn't be done and people should be redirected to groups on here (which she already knows about) or other sites better equipped.

    Yes mental health is a huge thing when it comes to overall health and losing weight but serious problems need more specialised support. Not the type where it is possible for anyone to make a smart *kitten* comment and potentially cause more damage to the OP.

    I hope you realize that, for the most part, I'm agreeing with you.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,114 Member
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    I was legitametely asking a question.

    By the way, look up Borderline Personality Disorder before judging. I can't help the way that I am...

    Thats the thing, you CAN help the way you are. You CAN get the proper help. You are an adult, so getting the proper help you need and making sure you do the things you need to do is all up to you. As with taking advice from others.

    Using your illness as an excuse is just wrong. It is only a crutch if you make it so.

    And yes I know this because I am mentally ill and have been for the last 14 years. It is up to you to change things when it comes to your illness.

    This.

    Also, ^^this^^.

    The problem is that this type of personality thrives on attention and drama. By posting on an anonymous online forum, she gets the attention. It isn't helping her. All of you who are saying, "Oh, poor her, we will support her." ...are making her worse. She doesn't need online sympathy. She doesn't need you to enable her disordered thinking. She needs to deal with her issues head-on. Only SHE can cure herself. Stop feeding into the disorder by sympathizing over and over on her multiple threads. She can get better. She needs to be in intensive therapy. This type of drama only stirs up users.

    I'm sorry. I didn't catch your psych credentials. I'm pretty sure alienating her won't be anymore helpful. You have no right to tell her that she can't post on a public forum or that we can't lend her support.

    On the contrary. If she can stir it up, I can serve it up. Fair's fair. No one said she couldn't post. And, I'm assuming you aren't saying I can't post, right?
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    Not the type where it is possible for anyone to make a smart *kitten* comment and potentially cause more damage to the OP.

    I agree with this completely, I wouldn't ask a sensitive question on this forum myself. But since she did, it doesn't cost me anything to give her a response.

    Look, if I decide to put up a post about my personal problems, etc...I do so expecting remarks from the supportive, the blunt slap in the face peeps, the jokers, the snarkiest of the snarky and so on.....I don't expect just remarks from one or the other. That's what you get when you post on a public forum.

    Maybe next time she should do a blog or talk to someone on her FL.

    Better yet, she should talk to her support system in RL - like her friends and family.
  • lwagnitz
    lwagnitz Posts: 1,321 Member
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    If you guys realize that she's posting multiple threads about the same thing for attention, why do you keep giving it to her?
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