Why should I go VEGAN??
Replies
-
I used to be vegan after years of being a vegetarian. I began having a lot of issues with my health and during my pregnancy really craved meat, so I went back to eating meat and it helped me so much!
Here is a blog post (the original is taken down) of another vegan gone back to meat-eating.
http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=17280510 -
Because it is a long term life choice that makes YOU happy and satisfied that you are not contributing the the direct death of animals for the sole purpose of eating them.0
-
Hmmmm...I don't recall anyplace in the Constitution that mentions "animal rights".
Not everyone needs a 200+ year old document as a basis for what they feel is the proper way to treat animals.
The Constitution also doesn't dictate whether or not you have to eat meat. Does that affect your decision on whether or not to do it?0 -
What's a good protein source for someone who lifts weights but wants to be vegan?
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/mahler53.htm0 -
I think that it's okay to eat a reduced amount of meat and animal products as long as the animals are being treated humanely and fed with good foods, not using steroids to beef them up. Personally, I'm vegetarian because I decided I need to eat healthier and stop relying on meat for everything. I used to have just roasted or fried chicken for lunch with some bread and I came to the point where I felt I wasn't getting enough vitamins from just this. Since then, I'm eating so many varieties of food and I feel so much better, mood and I've even lost weight. The truth is, all meat really has is protein, and we can get protein from MANY other foods. I think people should try being vegetarian for at least a few weeks and see how they feel and if they like it. I have never tried those meat alternatives because I feel that they're too processed. I eat mostly whole foods. Besides, I'm an animal lover and I feel bad if I ever eat meat.
Now, I think it'd be impossible for me to be vegan because I usually eat high protein Greek yogurt and sometimes eggs for breakfast. I don't like regular milk so I drink almond milk. I just don't get the point of those meat alternatives though. If you're going to be vegan/veg. why would you eat something that tastes like animals? Kind of defeats the purpose of converting to the lifestyle.0 -
i went vegan for ethical reasons. to me i feel better, but again, i didnt do it for health reasons. i wont preach to anybody about my vegan diet. that reminds me of people who preach about anything, you can give your opinion about a subject without forcing your opinion down somebodys throat. skinny b**** was funny. i liked it. you can be an unhealthy vegan as well. i only get natural and organic foods so theres not all those preservatives in them. if you cant/dont want to go vegan, at least organic and natural meat is better. everybody has the right to live their lives the way the want, but always remember, if you dont want somebody to shove their opinion down your throat, dont do it to them. good luck with your choice. if you need any help feel free to friend me. ive been vegan for 8 years.0
-
the diet NEEDS to be supplemented and/ or fortified, which is against my food ethos.
Please explain
Selective editing has changed the sense of my post somewhat but IMO (from my POV working in lifestyle healthcare) any diet that needs to be fortified or supplemented to be healthy and balanced is overly restrictive and completely unnatural. Obviously sometimes that is impossible to avoid, for example in multiple allergies, but I would never actively choose nor actively recommend a diet that relies on pills or frankenfoods.
Humans evolved to need nutrients that are only found or best absorbed or easiest sourced from animal products - vitamin B12, haem iron, vitamin D, calcium, long chain omega-3s. Trying to create an optimally nutritious diet that includes plenty of all the plant forms of these can tie you in knots, the most realistic option is to add in pills or frankenfoods.
That is purely from a health and dietetics perspective, clearly people have ethical reasons for going vegetarian or vegan and I don't advise nutrition clients to eat meat!0 -
You can buy meat that has been raised without steroids or antibiotics. Why would buying vegetables and fruits that have been fertilized with the poo of animals raised on steroids and antibiotics and then sprayed with a chemical cocktail to prevent bugs from eating them be more or less healthy than meat?0
-
I fall for you more everyday.:flowerforyou:I don't have a problem with vegans. I have a problem with vegans who assume that because I eat meat (lots of it, like at least 2 lbs per day), I am ignorant about where it comes from or its nutritive properties or how the animals are treated. I grew up on a beef cattle ranch. I raised orphan calves, pigs, chickens, rabbits, goats, etc., throughout my childhood, so give it a rest. My diet is perfectly healthy. I guess I'm just not virtuous enough to care that an animal has to die so that I can eat what I want. I bought a crap ton of steak yesterday for a great price, and I feel awesome about it. Every day, I am proud not to be vegan. Or a hypocrite. You say you care about animals ... well, stop eating all their food.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition0 -
I fall for you more everyday.:flowerforyou:I don't have a problem with vegans. I have a problem with vegans who assume that because I eat meat (lots of it, like at least 2 lbs per day), I am ignorant about where it comes from or its nutritive properties or how the animals are treated. I grew up on a beef cattle ranch. I raised orphan calves, pigs, chickens, rabbits, goats, etc., throughout my childhood, so give it a rest. My diet is perfectly healthy. I guess I'm just not virtuous enough to care that an animal has to die so that I can eat what I want. I bought a crap ton of steak yesterday for a great price, and I feel awesome about it. Every day, I am proud not to be vegan. Or a hypocrite. You say you care about animals ... well, stop eating all their food.
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness industry for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
hehehe..I loved that :flowerforyou:0 -
I'm a vegan (12 years) and do not take supplements, vitamins, etc. I'm not sure what your definition of "frankenfoods" is but I am quite certain my intake of processed foods is much lower than most omnivores I know.
I've never had any issues related to a lack of any of the nutrients you mention below.
My blood tests at physicals and check ups is always perfect. My last total cholesterol count was 96. Even when I was competing in cycling on a regular basis and riding significant miles, I had no problems with energy during rides or recovery.
Just because you have been taught that vegan diets lack necessary nutrients to provide complete nutrition to the body doesn't mean it's true.Selective editing has changed the sense of my post somewhat but IMO (from my POV working in lifestyle healthcare) any diet that needs to be fortified or supplemented to be healthy and balanced is overly restrictive and completely unnatural. Obviously sometimes that is impossible to avoid, for example in multiple allergies, but I would never actively choose nor actively recommend a diet that relies on pills or frankenfoods.
Humans evolved to need nutrients that are only found or best absorbed or easiest sourced from animal products - vitamin B12, haem iron, vitamin D, calcium, long chain omega-3s. Trying to create an optimally nutritious diet that includes plenty of all the plant forms of these can tie you in knots, the most realistic option is to add in pills or frankenfoods.
That is purely from a health and dietetics perspective, clearly people have ethical reasons for going vegetarian or vegan and I don't advise nutrition clients to eat meat!0 -
It looks like some people feel we can make up things like "animal rights" to help sooth our conscience. Well....how about we create "plant rights"? They are living things too.0
-
It looks like some people feel we can make up things like "animal rights" to help sooth our conscience. Well....how about we create "plant rights"? They are living things too.
A. Plants are not sentient beings
B. We made up religion...so why not animal rights?0 -
Lecterman stated.....
"A. Plants are not sentient beings
B. We made up religion...so why not animal rights?"
Thanks for making my point for me. People "made up" animal rights.0 -
Lecterman stated.....
"A. Plants are not sentient beings
B. We made up religion...so why not animal rights?"
Thanks for making my point for me. People "made up" animal rights.
Whatever makes your day Dave.0 -
I tried going vegan in grad school, but I was a "situational" vegan, meaning I wouldn't buy any animal products myself, but if I was over at someone's house for dinner or something like that, I wouldn't say no to any foods containing meat. It worked for me since I just wanted to test it out...0
-
I was vegetarian for a time, then went completely vegan for a time, then gave up on all of it completely and ate crap.
Now i've finally found a balance- I substitute what I can, and have meat when I feel like it.
I have a turkey sandwich just about every day. Those are my staple protein really and it really satisfies any cravings I have. Then for dinner, I'll have some of those bangin' Italian Style SmartSausages made of tofu and all that and I mean really, I can't tell the difference.
I use all non-dairy milks (hemp, almond, soy, etc) for my cereal but the BIGGEST reason I see vegan diets fail is CHEESE!
I've even spoken to hardcore life-long vegans and they've just told me that they cut out cheese completely because the substitutes don't cut it (Daiya, soy-cheese slices). I've purchased a bag of Daiya to see for myself after having an awesome Tofurky "Meat lovers" Pizza that supposedly was covered in it. I don't know what they did differently, but my bag of Daiya SMELLED and did not make nachos like they claimed (it smelled like hot vomit on chips...grossest thing ever)
So I will never cut out cheese or a nice turkey sandwich...but as far as red meat goes, I can find some great substitutes. And if all else fails- there is the BEST vegetarian restaurant by me called "Veggie Heaven" and they make all their meat out of nuts, seeds, soy, and yams. I always sneak people there when we're craving chinese food because you wouldn't know the difference at all- except you don't have violent heartburn after eating it :laugh:0 -
It looks like some people feel we can make up things like "animal rights" to help sooth our conscience. Well....how about we create "plant rights"? They are living things too.
Ya kind of a *kitten*, ain'tchya?0 -
It looks like some people feel we can make up things like "animal rights" to help sooth our conscience. Well....how about we create "plant rights"? They are living things too.
Ya kind of a *kitten*, ain'tchya?
IT'S A TRAP.0 -
It looks like some people feel we can make up things like "animal rights" to help sooth our conscience. Well....how about we create "plant rights"? They are living things too.
Ya kind of a *kitten*, ain'tchya?
IT'S A TRAP.
It is. *sadface*0 -
In fact, most people who go vegan see a significant lowering of their blood pressure, cholesterol and weight without exercise.
So if this "fact," where is your documentation of this? I would love to see it. There are many people that become vegan/vegetarian that see increases in blood pressure, cholesterol and weight because while they stay away from meat, they don't stay away from unhealthy processed foods.
I would love to hear your opinion after doing it for a year. I did, for two actually, and felt worse than I ever had in my life.0 -
each to their own and well done on deicding whats right for you. I however could never be vegan. I love meat, its natural and as long as I am happy with the source of my meat, i don't support cruel practices. organic and free range, but definatley a carnivore all the way
0 -
I eat an all vegan diet, plus the occasional meat and diary product (every few hours or so). We all have an inner vegan.0
-
rachy-i dont care what people say, i cant stand daiya cheese either. i tried each flavor just in case it was a certain flavor, but i agree about the nacho. the mozzarella is ok. hubby got that for me on accident and its expensive so i used it until it was finished. i do agree though.0
-
I'm not a vegan, but have a few friends who are, and when I'm with them, I'm eating vegan. I completely agree with your argument that it is for the health of the world and the animals that live in it.. but I don't think that it is necessarily for your health. Many of my vegan friends eat very unhealthy food, and one of them actually dislikes the "healthy vegans", .. they eat deep fried any vegetable, including fried pickles and mushrooms which I had with them last week. They eat vegan bacon and other fake vegan meats that can be high in calorie.
So yes, if you want to be vegan because of animal rights, the environment and so on.. I think that is an essential part of being vegan. If you want to be vegan to be healthy, there are plenty of healthy people who are not vegan, and plenty of vegans who are not healthy 0 -
In fact, most people who go vegan see a significant lowering of their blood pressure, cholesterol and weight without exercise.
So if this "fact," where is your documentation of this? I would love to see it. There are many people that become vegan/vegetarian that see increases in blood pressure, cholesterol and weight because while they stay away from meat, they don't stay away from unhealthy processed foods.
I would love to hear your opinion after doing it for a year. I did, for two actually, and felt worse than I ever had in my life.
Great answer !0 -
If you want to be vegan to be healthy, there are plenty of healthy people who are not vegan, and plenty of vegans who are not healthy
Very true 0 -
I just want people to THINK before they eat,
I think about meat all day, particularly in it's pizza-topping manifestation.0 -
There are many people that become vegan/vegetarian that see increases in blood pressure, cholesterol and weight because while they stay away from meat, they don't stay away from unhealthy processed foods.
So if this "fact," where is your documentation of this? 0 -
I'm not a vegan, but have a few friends who are, and when I'm with them, I'm eating vegan. I completely agree with your argument that it is for the health of the world and the animals that live in it.. but I don't think that it is necessarily for your health. Many of my vegan friends eat very unhealthy food, and one of them actually dislikes the "healthy vegans", .. they eat deep fried any vegetable, including fried pickles and mushrooms which I had with them last week. They eat vegan bacon and other fake vegan meats that can be high in calorie.
So yes, if you want to be vegan because of animal rights, the environment and so on.. I think that is an essential part of being vegan. If you want to be vegan to be healthy, there are plenty of healthy people who are not vegan, and plenty of vegans who are not healthy
eww, that sounds gross. fried everything. i totally agree, i know really unhealthy vegans. ive on the other hand, never met a vegan who didnt like eating fruits or vegetables. i do have a few friends that are vegan and wont sit with our non vegan friends because they wont eat vegan. i have stopped eating with them. they eat with us knowing we are vegan, why cant we eat with them knowing they are not. those are the kind of vegans that give other vegans a bad name. i would never dictate what others put into their bodies since my true friends would never do that to me.0
Categories
- All Categories
- 1.4M Health, Wellness and Goals
- 393.3K Introduce Yourself
- 43.8K Getting Started
- 260.2K Health and Weight Loss
- 175.9K Food and Nutrition
- 47.4K Recipes
- 232.5K Fitness and Exercise
- 424 Sleep, Mindfulness and Overall Wellness
- 6.5K Goal: Maintaining Weight
- 8.5K Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
- 153K Motivation and Support
- 8K Challenges
- 1.3K Debate Club
- 96.3K Chit-Chat
- 2.5K Fun and Games
- 3.7K MyFitnessPal Information
- 24 News and Announcements
- 1.1K Feature Suggestions and Ideas
- 2.6K MyFitnessPal Tech Support Questions