Afterlife: Is There Life After Death?
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I definitely think there is some kind of spiritual plane that we go to when we are done with these 'physical forms'0
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We are all just zeros and ones in a computer simulation.0
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When we die we become fabulous and nutritious maggot food.0
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lmfao thisWhen we die we become fabulous and nutritious maggot food.0 -
no one knows. no one living has been dead for more than a few minutes and the brain does things just before the body dies to make the mind hallucinate, so no one living knows whether there is life after death.0
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I know with all my heart that our life is just the "blink of an eye" and that we will spend eternity either in heaven or hell. I LOVE nature - when I look around and see the delicate balance of life it's hard for me to understand how all of that could be chance. There has to be a creator. I put my trust in the Bible. Others believe we were created by some other god and use another book, but the Bible is different b/c it's the only religion where we each can have a personal relationship with God. I feel Him and draw on His strengh every day. My Dad should have died 3 years ago (his medical records say "Miraculous recovery" in red - the Drs can't explain why he is still with us (and without brain damage) but through it all I just knew he would be okay...I don't know how I would have gotten throuh that without that hope. Anyway...the Bible tells us we will one day all meet our creator and I know we will.0
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I know with all my heart that our life is just the "blink of an eye" and that we will spend eternity either in heaven or hell. I LOVE nature - when I look around and see the delicate balance of life it's hard for me to understand how all of that could be chance. There has to be a creator. I put my trust in the Bible. Others believe we were created by some other god and use another book, but the Bible is different b/c it's the only religion where we each can have a personal relationship with God. I feel Him and draw on His strengh every day. My Dad should have died 3 years ago (his medical records say "Miraculous recovery" in red - the Drs can't explain why he is still with us (and without brain damage) but through it all I just knew he would be okay...I don't know how I would have gotten throuh that without that hope. Anyway...the Bible tells us we will one day all meet our creator and I know we will.
Not trying to argue here...but please explain why God decided your dad was worth his trouble but all the kids at Sandy Hook weren''t.0 -
Well...the King James Version of the Christian Bible says that "the dead are not conscious..." and that's in Ecclesiastes Chapter 9 Verse 5... Also in Ecclesiastes chapter 12 verse 7 the Bible mentions death: "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." ... I, personally, believe that all energy is only borrowed...and that one day we must give it back...Just live a good life...your soul (or conscious) knows what is good and bad...no matter which God is the one God if you are a good person it shouldn't matter which religion you are right?
These are my personal questions/thoughts though...as to answer your question...I don't know the answer...but... I'm going to find out one day... 0 -
Not an afterlife in its traditional sense. More like going "home"!
Life on earth is just a flash in a pan, that is why we should not take it too serious and have fun with it :-)
Cheers!
I TOTALLY get what you mean and ABSOLUTELY agree!!
We're but a miniscule blip in the time line of the ever expanding universe...we should savor every moment we get to live on this physical plane of existence.0 -
Still no0
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Christianity was used by wealthy men to maintain power and control over others. Women were considered to be lower than cattle in the eyes of "God"..... and it's still used to exert power and control over ordinary people who need faith to make it through periods of heartache, loss, trials and tribulations....
Everything is accidental, nothing is certain.....except death.0 -
More importantly for all of us, is there life before death?
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Christianity was used by wealthy men to maintain power and control over others. Women were considered to be lower than cattle in the eyes of "God"..... and it's still used to exert power and control over ordinary people who need faith to make it through periods of heartache, loss, trials and tribulations....
Everything is accidental, nothing is certain.....except death.
I've almost finished reading the entire Bible and I haven't seen mention ANYWHERE in the Bible that God considers women to be lower than cattle...where do people like you come up this this crap?! ...Read it before you cast judgement on something you obviously know nothing about...0 -
It says men control over women (Genesis).Christianity was used by wealthy men to maintain power and control over others. Women were considered to be lower than cattle in the eyes of "God"..... and it's still used to exert power and control over ordinary people who need faith to make it through periods of heartache, loss, trials and tribulations....
Everything is accidental, nothing is certain.....except death.
I've almost finished reading the entire Bible and I haven't seen mention ANYWHERE in the Bible that God considers women to be lower than cattle...where do people like you come up this this crap?! ...Read it before you cast judgement on something you obviously know nothing about...
Or that a woman who is raped should marry the rapist.
Or that if a woman had premarital sex she should be stoned to death (but men can do whatever they want).0 -
They were talking about how women were treated at that time. They didn't mean passages in the Bible. Maybe you should practice what you preach before posting.Christianity was used by wealthy men to maintain power and control over others. Women were considered to be lower than cattle in the eyes of "God"..... and it's still used to exert power and control over ordinary people who need faith to make it through periods of heartache, loss, trials and tribulations....
Everything is accidental, nothing is certain.....except death.
I've almost finished reading the entire Bible and I haven't seen mention ANYWHERE in the Bible that God considers women to be lower than cattle...where do people like you come up this this crap?! ...Read it before you cast judgement on something you obviously know nothing about...0 -
As a pk, I used to be adamant that there is a life after death. Then, I developed my own life view and now I'm not so sure. If someone finds out for sure (with concrete proof), please let me know.
Just out of curiosity, what would you consider concrete proof? There have been many accounts of people technically dying and then being resuscitated who claim to have seen heaven, hell, dead family members, bright light, God, etc.; but society writes it off as a delusion that is not to be trusted. So if the word of someone who has experienced it is not concrete proof, what is?
I doubt God will let anyone bring back a heavenly donut (the taste is to die for and it has no calories).:laugh:
Yes, and many of the positive experiences have been reported by children. They have seen "dead" great-grandparents and siblings who have never been seen by the children in this life (nor have they been told about them). Scientists readily admit (if they are honest) that the more they investigate in this universe, the less certain they are of anything. From the "spooky forces at a distance" of quantum entanglement to the absolutely fascinating (and quite obviously designed) living systems, "The heavens are telling the glory of God..." Here is a link to a site that speaks to the issue of the "scientific illiteracy of dogmatic atheists". http://www.deism.com/dogmaticatheism.htm
But so much in science is political these days, that often truth is suppressed. Here is a link to an intriguing discussion of "Einsteinian gangsters" in the physics establishment at some major universities. http://www.anti-relativity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=3240
Finally, for me, the most convincing evidence that God is there, is the fact that Israel exists, and that the Jewish people exist. Against very great odds, the Jewish people survive and prosper. The miracles that happened in forming the modern state of Israel cannot be denied.0 -
Recent opinions on quantum entanglement could offer the remote scientific possibility of what we consider an everlasting soul.
I put no faith in a book written and rewritten by man, and frankly full of horrific things. You can't pick and choose the parts you believe, that's not how it works. It's the word of God.
I don't fault your faith, it's your life and all.0 -
It says men control over women (Genesis).Christianity was used by wealthy men to maintain power and control over others. Women were considered to be lower than cattle in the eyes of "God"..... and it's still used to exert power and control over ordinary people who need faith to make it through periods of heartache, loss, trials and tribulations....
Everything is accidental, nothing is certain.....except death.
I've almost finished reading the entire Bible and I haven't seen mention ANYWHERE in the Bible that God considers women to be lower than cattle...where do people like you come up this this crap?! ...Read it before you cast judgement on something you obviously know nothing about...
Or that a woman who is raped should marry the rapist.
Or that if a woman had premarital sex she should be stoned to death (but men can do whatever they want).
Exactly. Women are property....with no freedom or rights...and if you understand what you're reading, it's all through there....I'm too busy to make this stuff up....0 -
Nope. you get a dirt nap and then you're worm food. I think the concept of an afterlife is just a crutch for people who are afraid of death being an absolute end.
But why would anyone be afraid of "nothing"? No, I think it is much more likely that a human would be instinctively afraid of "something" that was wild and uncontrollable--like God. "The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom..."
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I know with all my heart that our life is just the "blink of an eye" and that we will spend eternity either in heaven or hell. I LOVE nature - when I look around and see the delicate balance of life it's hard for me to understand how all of that could be chance. There has to be a creator. I put my trust in the Bible. Others believe we were created by some other god and use another book, but the Bible is different b/c it's the only religion where we each can have a personal relationship with God. I feel Him and draw on His strengh every day. My Dad should have died 3 years ago (his medical records say "Miraculous recovery" in red - the Drs can't explain why he is still with us (and without brain damage) but through it all I just knew he would be okay...I don't know how I would have gotten throuh that without that hope. Anyway...the Bible tells us we will one day all meet our creator and I know we will.
Not trying to argue here...but please explain why God decided your dad was worth his trouble but all the kids at Sandy Hook weren''t.
My heart breaks for the families at Sandy Hook. That's a good question, but you aren't going to like my answer...I don't know. God is the only one who is all knowing. I CAN tell you that he gave us all our own free will - we aren't robots - and sometimes the poor decsion of one person will forever change the lives of others. I can also tell you that he loves those children very much (as he does my father and you) and those children are in a wonderful place now, free from pain and suffering.0 -
Or that humans want to feel special.Nope. you get a dirt nap and then you're worm food. I think the concept of an afterlife is just a crutch for people who are afraid of death being an absolute end.
But why would anyone be afraid of "nothing"? No, I think it is much more likely that a human would be instinctively afraid of "something" that was wild and uncontrollable--like God. "The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom..."0 -
But why would anyone be afraid of "nothing"? No, I think it is much more likely that a human would be instinctively afraid of "something" that was wild and uncontrollable--like God. "The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom..."
The only fear of God comes from Zealots committing genocide based on what God said. It happens over and over in history and even now it is happening. Right this very minute.
There is nothing wrong with God or the concept of a higher power to help us make sense of "why" but the scumbags who rape, murder, and steal in "his" name are the problem.0 -
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It says men control over women (Genesis).Christianity was used by wealthy men to maintain power and control over others. Women were considered to be lower than cattle in the eyes of "God"..... and it's still used to exert power and control over ordinary people who need faith to make it through periods of heartache, loss, trials and tribulations....
Everything is accidental, nothing is certain.....except death.
I've almost finished reading the entire Bible and I haven't seen mention ANYWHERE in the Bible that God considers women to be lower than cattle...where do people like you come up this this crap?! ...Read it before you cast judgement on something you obviously know nothing about...
Or that a woman who is raped should marry the rapist.
Or that if a woman had premarital sex she should be stoned to death (but men can do whatever they want).
Exactly. Women are property....with no freedom or rights...and if you understand what you're reading, it's all through there....I'm too busy to make this stuff up....
Using the Old Testament to deny the existence of God is to misunderstand the cultural context of the Middle East. Objecting to the idea that a woman should marry the man who raped her is to leave her starving to death, because no other man would have her after that point. The conditions of the ancient Middle East were quite harsh for women---that part is true. But there is much in the Old Testament law that served to protect the interests of women. The Law of Moses gave them rights that they had not had before that point. Jesus came into that world and women adored and flocked to Him because He insisted that women be treated as equals---much to the shock of the scandalized religious authorities of His day. You should also know that Christians have always been at the forefront of the on-going campaign for the rights of women throughout the world. Christian missionaries are risking their lives in India and Islamic countries as they preach the gospel and work to secure the status of women in those cultures.0 -
But why would anyone be afraid of "nothing"? No, I think it is much more likely that a human would be instinctively afraid of "something" that was wild and uncontrollable--like God. "The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom..."
The only fear of God comes from Zealots committing genocide based on what God said. It happens over and over in history and even now it is happening. Right this very minute.
There is nothing wrong with God or the concept of a higher power to help us make sense of "why" but the scumbags who rape, murder, and steal in "his" name are the problem.
And Christians do this??? The definition of a Christian is not someone who adheres to a religious dogma, but one who follows Christ. He would NEVER countenance such things and He will severely punish those who use His name in vain.0 -
Simply put, no!! Which in my opinion would explain most people's fear of death, and fight for life. In addition I will add that there will be a final day of judgement for both the dead and living. So if you want to count ressurection from the dead to be judged as after life, then yes.:indifferent:0
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So knowledgeable, yet you lack the basic understanding of a paragraph.
It says men control over women (Genesis).Christianity was used by wealthy men to maintain power and control over others. Women were considered to be lower than cattle in the eyes of "God"..... and it's still used to exert power and control over ordinary people who need faith to make it through periods of heartache, loss, trials and tribulations....
Everything is accidental, nothing is certain.....except death.
I've almost finished reading the entire Bible and I haven't seen mention ANYWHERE in the Bible that God considers women to be lower than cattle...where do people like you come up this this crap?! ...Read it before you cast judgement on something you obviously know nothing about...
Or that a woman who is raped should marry the rapist.
Or that if a woman had premarital sex she should be stoned to death (but men can do whatever they want).
Exactly. Women are property....with no freedom or rights...and if you understand what you're reading, it's all through there....I'm too busy to make this stuff up....
Using the Old Testament to deny the existence of God is to misunderstand the cultural context of the Middle East. Objecting to the idea that a woman should marry the man who raped her is to leave her starving to death, because no other man would have her after that point. The conditions of the ancient Middle East were quite harsh for women---that part is true. But there is much in the Old Testament law that served to protect the interests of women. The Law of Moses gave them rights that they had not had before that point. Jesus came into that world and women adored and flocked to Him because He insisted that women be treated as equals---much to the shock of the scandalized religious authorities of His day. You should also know that Christians have always been at the forefront of the on-going campaign for the rights of women throughout the world. Christian missionaries are risking their lives in India and Islamic countries as they preach the gospel and work to secure the status of women in those cultures.
Wall of text galore.0 -
Nope. This is not a trial run. Make the best of this life. Get out and do those things you want to do, tell those people you care for how you feel. You will not get a second chance.0
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They were talking about how women were treated at that time. They didn't mean passages in the Bible. Maybe you should practice what you preach before posting.Christianity was used by wealthy men to maintain power and control over others. Women were considered to be lower than cattle in the eyes of "God"..... and it's still used to exert power and control over ordinary people who need faith to make it through periods of heartache, loss, trials and tribulations....
Everything is accidental, nothing is certain.....except death.
I've almost finished reading the entire Bible and I haven't seen mention ANYWHERE in the Bible that God considers women to be lower than cattle...where do people like you come up this this crap?! ...Read it before you cast judgement on something you obviously know nothing about...
You guys are absolutely right. Thank you for setting me straight and helping me to grow as a person. 0 -
Well...the King James Version of the Christian Bible says that "the dead are not conscious..." and that's in Ecclesiastes Chapter 9 Verse 5... Also in Ecclesiastes chapter 12 verse 7 the Bible mentions death: "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." ...
But Jesus told the "thief on the cross", "Today, you will be with me in Paradise..." because of the thief's faith in Him. I think a better translation of the meaning of Ecclesiastes 9:5 is in the NLT which says: "The living at least know they will die, but the dead know nothing." The author of Ecclesiastes, is making the point in the context of this world and its "vanity" and that death comes to all. He very clearly affirms that there is something beyond death when he says, in conclusion, "God will judge us for everything we do, including every secret thing, whether good or bad." Ecc. 12:14 Judgment after death implies that there would be "something" remaining after death.0
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