Daily protein too high on MFP?

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  • Posts: 3,949 Member


    Lol engine 2 diet site, confirmation bias much?

    yeah you're right... i should really cite studies that don't support my position...

    can you find one for me? that plant-based diets don't reduce risk and/or reverse heart disease?
  • Posts: 3,949 Member


    Ahhh...back to form with the insults!

    You did not answer my question.

    i answered your first question. you answer my question. notice you dodged it. ;)
  • Posts: 28,072 Member

    i answered your first question. you answer my question. notice you dodged it. ;)

    No you did not answer it at all. Also, I am actually not going to respond to posts telling me to do something when in the same post you call me ridiculous. You really do have a problem not making insults don't you?
  • Posts: 3,949 Member

    No you did not answer it at all.

    sorry you feel that way.

    you asked whether i think someone who loses weight is healthier and i said yes, just not AS healthy as someone who does it the right way.

    pretty sure that's an answer.
  • Posts: 28,072 Member

    sorry you feel that way.

    you asked whether i think someone who loses weight is healthier and i said yes, just not AS healthy as someone who does it the right now.

    pretty sure that's an answer.
    My follow up question, which you did not answer was:

    Also, where are your sources that athletes are at just as high a risk for heart disease as anyone else unless they eat correctly?
  • Posts: 3,949 Member
    My follow up question, which you did not answer was:

    Also, where are your sources that athletes are at just as high a risk for heart disease as anyone else unless they eat correctly?

    cholesterol has very little to do with weight, except that someone who is heavy tends to eat more of it as a byproduct of eating too much in general.

    an athlete who is in top physical form, but eats tons of artery clogging foods, is still at a higher risk for heart disease regardless of being considered "healthy" by folks like you.
  • Posts: 12,142 Member

    yeah you're right... i should really cite studies that don't support my position...

    can you find one for me? that plant-based diets don't reduce risk and/or reverse heart disease?

    The burden of proof is on the claim maker
  • Posts: 28,072 Member

    cholesterol has very little to do with weight, except that someone who is heavy tends to eat more of it as a byproduct of eating too much in general.

    an athlete who is in top physical form, but eats tons of artery clogging foods, is still at a higher risk for heart disease regardless of being considered "healthy" by folks like you.

    Please do not tell me (incorrectly) what or who I consider to be healthy.

    And, that was not the statement you made. You said that an athlete who eats 'unhealthily' was just as likely to be at risk of heart disease as a non-athlete who eats 'unhealthily'.
    thus my comment about athletes who are perceived as "healthy" but are at just as high a risk of heart disease as anyone else, unless they eat correctly.

    And I am still waiting for that source!
  • Posts: 3,949 Member

    The burden of proof is on the claim maker

    you claimed that my sources weren't accurate. prove it.
  • Posts: 3,949 Member

    Please do not tell me (incorrectly) what or who I consider to be healthy.

    And, that was not the statement you made. You said that an athlete who eats 'unhealthily' was just as likely to be at risk of heart disease as a non-athlete who eats 'unhealthily'.

    And I am still waiting for that source!

    I got it from your profile. ;)

    IIFYM!
  • Posts: 28,072 Member

    I got it from your profile. ;)

    IIFYM!

    What has that got to do with anything? You obviously do NOT understand IIFYM, which has been very obvious from prior threads.

    oh, and still waiting!
  • Posts: 28,072 Member

    you claimed that my sources weren't accurate. prove it.


    lolz - that is not the way it works at all.

    http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof
  • Posts: 3,949 Member


    lolz - that is not the way it works at all.

    http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/burden-of-proof

    weird, cuz here I was thinking I listed sources!

    he just didn't LIKE my sources, which then puts the ball in his court to tell me why my sources are incorrect/inadequate.
  • Posts: 28,072 Member

    weird, cuz here I was thinking I listed sources!

    he just didn't LIKE my sources, which then puts the ball in his court to tell me why my sources are incorrect/inadequate.

    No, because sources are supposed to actually support your argument.
  • Posts: 3,949 Member

    No, because sources are supposed to actually support your argument.

    ah. I see... can you explain how my sources didn't support the argument? I must be missing that too.
  • Posts: 28,072 Member

    lol I do happen to see "eat lots of fruits and veggies" and "avoid foods with saturated fat and high sodium" ;)

    So? That is not is what is being discussed here.
  • Posts: 24,208 Member

    lol if you saw my before's you'd think differently. i'm genetically skinny, crazy high metabolism. for me to put on weight/muscle i need to eat a TON of food.

    regardless, my views on health and food are actually incredibly mainstream, but for some reason this board is full of ketogenic disciples, fad diets, and everyone trying to lose weight the fastest they possibly can regardless of health. you don't wanna read my posts, then hit ignore. Anvil does and it works great. :)

    Very funny. Neither Sara nor myself nor, I imagine, the majority of the people here are into any fad diet, ketogenic or whatever. My ersonal weight loss is approximately a kilo a month at most because I am interested in fitness and not weight-loss I am also interested in body composition. I think that is rather weak of you to try to discredit us via this type of personal attack, it just doesn't hold water.

    Fallacy of appeal to numbers.
    Red herring fallacy.

    Try to stick to the subject - please.
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    Sara vs Coach

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  • Posts: 34,458 Member
    Sara vs Coach

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    I've got Coach for $100. Not because he's right, but because he's the most tenacious doesn't-care-if-he's-right-gonna-argue-anyway person there is on the internet.

    Eventually Sara is gonna go home and log off....or get bored.
  • Posts: 34,971 Member

    I've got Coach for $100. Not because he's right, but because he's the most tenacious doesn't-care-if-he's-right-gonna-argue-anyway person there is on the internet.

    Eventually Sara is gonna go home and log off....or get bored.

    ROFLMAO!

    Sara is so extra sexy hawwwttt when she puts her foot down..just saying.
  • Posts: 8,934 Member

    I've got Coach for $100. Not because he's right, but because he's the most tenacious doesn't-care-if-he's-right-gonna-argue-anyway person there is on the internet.

    Eventually Sara is gonna go home and log off....or get bored.

    Kind of reminds me of the old saying to never argue with a fool. They will only pull you down to thier level and beat you with experience.
  • Posts: 3,949 Member

    Very funny. Neither Sara nor myself nor, I imagine, the majority of the people here are into any fad diet, ketogenic or whatever. My ersonal weight loss is approximately a kilo a month at most because I am interested in fitness and not weight-loss I am also interested in body composition. I think that is rather weak of you to try to discredit us via this type of personal attack, it just doesn't hold water.

    Fallacy of appeal to numbers.
    Red herring fallacy.

    Try to stick to the subject - please.

    interesting - why did you feel like I was attacking you if you don't prescribe to ketogenic diets, fad diets, and losing weight as quickly as possible? ya know... since those are the people I was referring to... and you claim not to be among them.
  • Posts: 3,949 Member

    I've got Coach for $100. Not because he's right, but because he's the most tenacious doesn't-care-if-he's-right-gonna-argue-anyway person there is on the internet.

    Eventually Sara is gonna go home and log off....or get bored.

    thanks dude!
  • Posts: 3,949 Member

    So? That is not is what is being discussed here.

    (plant based diets helping prevent/reverse heart disease is certainly being discussed here. also what kind of food is often relatively high in saturated fat and sodium in the typical american diet?)
  • Posts: 7,739 Member

    do you believe that a person who eats whatever they want (fast food, junk food, processed foods etc) but stays within their macro goals is EQUALLY as healthy (ie: will have equally good vitals) as someone who stays within their macro limit but only eats whole foods, lots of fruits and veggies, whole grains, and avoids processed foods?

    I know this argument has been had before, but I want your straight forward, no extra BS answer.



    OK - I'll finally bite. I'm one of the former. My bloodwork last time I had a full physical with my doctor (June 2012)? Textbook - his word, not mine. My blood pressure a couple of weeks ago, during a routine checkup? 110 over 68. No aches or pains. So, to answer your question directly - YES.


    eta: I actually typed my blood pressure incorrectly. It was better than I had typed. BTW, I'm a 40yo male.
  • Posts: 3,949 Member



    OK - I'll finally bite. I'm one of the former. My bloodwork last time I had a full physical with my doctor (June 2012)? Textbook - his word, not mine. My blood pressure a couple of weeks ago, during a routine checkup? 110 over 80. No aches or pains. So, to answer you question directly - YES.

    ... what the heck does textbook mean? textbook can literally mean either good OR bad. gimme the numbers, because I'm willing to bet my LDL is lower than every IIFYM subscriber on this board.
  • Posts: 28,072 Member

    (plant based diets helping prevent/reverse heart disease is certainly being discussed here. also what kind of food is often relatively high in saturated fat and sodium in the typical american diet?)

    Funny they did not mention that 'kind of food' then isn't it?
  • Posts: 34,971 Member

    ... what the heck does textbook mean? textbook can literally mean either good OR bad. gimme the numbers, because I'm willing to bet my LDL is lower than every IIFYM subscriber on this board.

    O.o

    And the arrogant I'm better than everyone else stomp stomp stomp tone to this thread...has reached a new high...
  • Posts: 28,072 Member

    ROFLMAO!

    Sara is so extra sexy hawwwttt when she puts her foot down..just saying.

    How YOU doin'? :bigsmile:
  • Posts: 28,072 Member

    O.o

    And the arrogant I'm better than everyone else stomp stomp stomp tone to this thread...has reached a new high...

    It must come with the elite territory!

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