Daily protein too high on MFP?
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... what the heck does textbook mean? textbook can literally mean either good OR bad. gimme the numbers, because I'm willing to bet my LDL is lower than every IIFYM subscriber on this board.
Couldn't care less what your numbers are. And I'm guessing you realize you have no leg to stand on, since you're asking me to remember the exact numbers from eight months ago. I don't have them - my doctor does. And you are obviously being purposely obtuse as to ask what textbook means.0 -
(plant based diets helping prevent/reverse heart disease is certainly being discussed here. also what kind of food is often relatively high in saturated fat and sodium in the typical american diet?)
No, it's not. The idea of "too much protein" is what's being discussed. That is, until you tried to steer the conversation in a way you thought would be easier for you to "win."0 -
... what the heck does textbook mean? textbook can literally mean either good OR bad. gimme the numbers, because I'm willing to bet my LDL is lower than every IIFYM subscriber on this board.
Couldn't care less what your numbers are. And I'm guessing you realize you have no leg to stand on, since you're asking me to remember the exact numbers from eight months ago. I don't have them - my doctor does. And you are obviously being purposely obtuse as to ask what textbook means.
haha ok. yeah man the blood pressure looks pretty good - more power to ya!
but you realize that the average american cholesterol level is roughly 200. thus how "textbook" doesn't necessarily mean "good". it means adequate.0 -
do you believe that a person who eats whatever they want (fast food, junk food, processed foods etc) but stays within their macro goals is EQUALLY as healthy (ie: will have equally good vitals) as someone who stays within their macro limit but only eats whole foods, lots of fruits and veggies, whole grains, and avoids processed foods?
I know this argument has been had before, but I want your straight forward, no extra BS answer.
OK - I'll finally bite. I'm one of the former. My bloodwork last time I had a full physical with my doctor (June 2012)? Textbook - his word, not mine. My blood pressure a couple of weeks ago, during a routine checkup? 110 over 80. No aches or pains. So, to answer you question directly - YES.
... what the heck does textbook mean? textbook can literally mean either good OR bad. gimme the numbers, because I'm willing to bet my LDL is lower than every IIFYM subscriber on this board.
O.o
And the arrogant I'm better than everyone else stomp stomp stomp tone to this thread...has reached a new high...
It must come with the elite territory!
yeah you all are just a model of humility.
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do you believe that a person who eats whatever they want (fast food, junk food, processed foods etc) but stays within their macro goals is EQUALLY as healthy (ie: will have equally good vitals) as someone who stays within their macro limit but only eats whole foods, lots of fruits and veggies, whole grains, and avoids processed foods?
I know this argument has been had before, but I want your straight forward, no extra BS answer.
OK - I'll finally bite. I'm one of the former. My bloodwork last time I had a full physical with my doctor (June 2012)? Textbook - his word, not mine. My blood pressure a couple of weeks ago, during a routine checkup? 110 over 80. No aches or pains. So, to answer you question directly - YES.
... what the heck does textbook mean? textbook can literally mean either good OR bad. gimme the numbers, because I'm willing to bet my LDL is lower than every IIFYM subscriber on this board.
O.o
And the arrogant I'm better than everyone else stomp stomp stomp tone to this thread...has reached a new high...
It must come with the elite territory!
yeah you all are just a model of humility.
Compared to some..yes, I think we may very well be :happy:0 -
Sara vs Coach
I've got Coach for $100. Not because he's right, but because he's the most tenacious doesn't-care-if-he's-right-gonna-argue-anyway person there is on the internet.
Eventually Sara is gonna go home and log off....or get bored.
ROFLMAO!
Sara is so extra sexy hawwwttt when she puts her foot down..just saying.
How YOU doin'? :bigsmile:
:flowerforyou: :flowerforyou: :flowerforyou:
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do you believe that a person who eats whatever they want (fast food, junk food, processed foods etc) but stays within their macro goals is EQUALLY as healthy (ie: will have equally good vitals) as someone who stays within their macro limit but only eats whole foods, lots of fruits and veggies, whole grains, and avoids processed foods?
I know this argument has been had before, but I want your straight forward, no extra BS answer.
OK - I'll finally bite. I'm one of the former. My bloodwork last time I had a full physical with my doctor (June 2012)? Textbook - his word, not mine. My blood pressure a couple of weeks ago, during a routine checkup? 110 over 80. No aches or pains. So, to answer you question directly - YES.
... what the heck does textbook mean? textbook can literally mean either good OR bad. gimme the numbers, because I'm willing to bet my LDL is lower than every IIFYM subscriber on this board.
O.o
And the arrogant I'm better than everyone else stomp stomp stomp tone to this thread...has reached a new high...
It must come with the elite territory!
yeah you all are just a model of humility.
Compared to some..yes, I think we may very well be :happy:
next time you actually contribute to a discussion instead of piggyback on others let me know.
i'm pretty sure DavPul's memes are usually more constructive. :laugh:0 -
do you believe that a person who eats whatever they want (fast food, junk food, processed foods etc) but stays within their macro goals is EQUALLY as healthy (ie: will have equally good vitals) as someone who stays within their macro limit but only eats whole foods, lots of fruits and veggies, whole grains, and avoids processed foods?
I know this argument has been had before, but I want your straight forward, no extra BS answer.
OK - I'll finally bite. I'm one of the former. My bloodwork last time I had a full physical with my doctor (June 2012)? Textbook - his word, not mine. My blood pressure a couple of weeks ago, during a routine checkup? 110 over 80. No aches or pains. So, to answer you question directly - YES.
... what the heck does textbook mean? textbook can literally mean either good OR bad. gimme the numbers, because I'm willing to bet my LDL is lower than every IIFYM subscriber on this board.
O.o
And the arrogant I'm better than everyone else stomp stomp stomp tone to this thread...has reached a new high...
It must come with the elite territory!
yeah you all are just a model of humility.
Compared to some..yes, I think we may very well be :happy:
next time you actually contribute to a discussion instead of piggyback on others let me know.
i'm pretty sure DavPul's memes are usually more constructive. :laugh:
Certainly more constructive than your ill thought out and totally incorrect arguments.0 -
do you believe that a person who eats whatever they want (fast food, junk food, processed foods etc) but stays within their macro goals is EQUALLY as healthy (ie: will have equally good vitals) as someone who stays within their macro limit but only eats whole foods, lots of fruits and veggies, whole grains, and avoids processed foods?
I know this argument has been had before, but I want your straight forward, no extra BS answer.
OK - I'll finally bite. I'm one of the former. My bloodwork last time I had a full physical with my doctor (June 2012)? Textbook - his word, not mine. My blood pressure a couple of weeks ago, during a routine checkup? 110 over 80. No aches or pains. So, to answer you question directly - YES.
... what the heck does textbook mean? textbook can literally mean either good OR bad. gimme the numbers, because I'm willing to bet my LDL is lower than every IIFYM subscriber on this board.
O.o
And the arrogant I'm better than everyone else stomp stomp stomp tone to this thread...has reached a new high...
It must come with the elite territory!
yeah you all are just a model of humility.
I am not the one who has called themselves elite before or is trying to slap my d!ck on the table to show how large it is.
Oh, and I am still waiting for those sources.0 -
do you believe that a person who eats whatever they want (fast food, junk food, processed foods etc) but stays within their macro goals is EQUALLY as healthy (ie: will have equally good vitals) as someone who stays within their macro limit but only eats whole foods, lots of fruits and veggies, whole grains, and avoids processed foods?
I know this argument has been had before, but I want your straight forward, no extra BS answer.
OK - I'll finally bite. I'm one of the former. My bloodwork last time I had a full physical with my doctor (June 2012)? Textbook - his word, not mine. My blood pressure a couple of weeks ago, during a routine checkup? 110 over 80. No aches or pains. So, to answer you question directly - YES.
... what the heck does textbook mean? textbook can literally mean either good OR bad. gimme the numbers, because I'm willing to bet my LDL is lower than every IIFYM subscriber on this board.
O.o
And the arrogant I'm better than everyone else stomp stomp stomp tone to this thread...has reached a new high...
It must come with the elite territory!
yeah you all are just a model of humility.
I am not the one who has called themselves elite before or is trying to slap my d!ck on the table to show how large it is.
Oh, and I am still waiting for those sources.
you have a d!ck?0 -
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do you believe that a person who eats whatever they want (fast food, junk food, processed foods etc) but stays within their macro goals is EQUALLY as healthy (ie: will have equally good vitals) as someone who stays within their macro limit but only eats whole foods, lots of fruits and veggies, whole grains, and avoids processed foods?
I know this argument has been had before, but I want your straight forward, no extra BS answer.
OK - I'll finally bite. I'm one of the former. My bloodwork last time I had a full physical with my doctor (June 2012)? Textbook - his word, not mine. My blood pressure a couple of weeks ago, during a routine checkup? 110 over 80. No aches or pains. So, to answer you question directly - YES.
... what the heck does textbook mean? textbook can literally mean either good OR bad. gimme the numbers, because I'm willing to bet my LDL is lower than every IIFYM subscriber on this board.
O.o
And the arrogant I'm better than everyone else stomp stomp stomp tone to this thread...has reached a new high...
It must come with the elite territory!
yeah you all are just a model of humility.
I am not the one who has called themselves elite before or is trying to slap my d!ck on the table to show how large it is.
Oh, and I am still waiting for those sources.
you have a d!ck?
So many comments...most of which would get me a strike, so I will stick with ...it's a saying..sorry you did not realize that.0 -
next time you actually contribute to a discussion instead of piggyback on others let me know.
i'm pretty sure DavPul's memes are usually more constructive. :laugh:
So I can't support what someone is saying? lol. You so funneh :P
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Wishful thinking?0 -
next time you actually contribute to a discussion instead of piggyback on others let me know.
i'm pretty sure DavPul's memes are usually more constructive. :laugh:
So I can't support what someone is saying? lol. You so funneh :P
sooo many jokes I can't make because the mods will yell at me.0 -
Would love to see how you squeeze in so many gms protein!! That is always a challenge for me!0
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Also, where are your sources that athletes are at just as high a risk for heart disease as anyone else unless they eat correctly?
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That's frequently what someone posts after they've reported some posts in a thread.0 -
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That's frequently what someone posts after they've reported some posts in a thread.
That thought did cross my mind. It's funny how the reportee also gets in trouble for retaliation though!0 -
Also, where are your sources that athletes are at just as high a risk for heart disease as anyone else unless they eat correctly?
Have not seen this question answered yet
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:p4zeJHaVdSoJ:www.philmaffetone.com/files/Athletes-Fit-But-Unhealthy.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShXVXd3gV4c7lB9R4JEfpPnfxdyO6r8QMH90wvcL-cb6yr1Y6uCTLFoSHRusJmUeJMRXAGCzOpDN0n6B3yaEAhN9oVy03bNdyCKM4QLlllRyFx8aTwT0hGKosYX0-4-hqnEfgJt&sig=AHIEtbQ3EBojVPib0icVGnIV4x_w28PVhA0 -
Also, where are your sources that athletes are at just as high a risk for heart disease as anyone else unless they eat correctly?
Have not seen this question answered yet
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:p4zeJHaVdSoJ:www.philmaffetone.com/files/Athletes-Fit-But-Unhealthy.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShXVXd3gV4c7lB9R4JEfpPnfxdyO6r8QMH90wvcL-cb6yr1Y6uCTLFoSHRusJmUeJMRXAGCzOpDN0n6B3yaEAhN9oVy03bNdyCKM4QLlllRyFx8aTwT0hGKosYX0-4-hqnEfgJt&sig=AHIEtbQ3EBojVPib0icVGnIV4x_w28PVhA
That does not actually support what you say. There is no comparison showing athletes v non-athletes with a less nutrient dense or 'unhealthy' diet. .0 -
Also, where are your sources that athletes are at just as high a risk for heart disease as anyone else unless they eat correctly?
Have not seen this question answered yet
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:p4zeJHaVdSoJ:www.philmaffetone.com/files/Athletes-Fit-But-Unhealthy.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShXVXd3gV4c7lB9R4JEfpPnfxdyO6r8QMH90wvcL-cb6yr1Y6uCTLFoSHRusJmUeJMRXAGCzOpDN0n6B3yaEAhN9oVy03bNdyCKM4QLlllRyFx8aTwT0hGKosYX0-4-hqnEfgJt&sig=AHIEtbQ3EBojVPib0icVGnIV4x_w28PVhA
Hmm no sources or references to where he got his information from.
Seem legit. :huh:0 -
Also, where are your sources that athletes are at just as high a risk for heart disease as anyone else unless they eat correctly?
Have not seen this question answered yet
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:p4zeJHaVdSoJ:www.philmaffetone.com/files/Athletes-Fit-But-Unhealthy.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShXVXd3gV4c7lB9R4JEfpPnfxdyO6r8QMH90wvcL-cb6yr1Y6uCTLFoSHRusJmUeJMRXAGCzOpDN0n6B3yaEAhN9oVy03bNdyCKM4QLlllRyFx8aTwT0hGKosYX0-4-hqnEfgJt&sig=AHIEtbQ3EBojVPib0icVGnIV4x_w28PVhA
That does not actually support what you say. There is no comparison showing athletes v non-athletes with a less nutrient dense or 'unhealthy' diet. .
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Also, where are your sources that athletes are at just as high a risk for heart disease as anyone else unless they eat correctly?
Have not seen this question answered yet
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:p4zeJHaVdSoJ:www.philmaffetone.com/files/Athletes-Fit-But-Unhealthy.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShXVXd3gV4c7lB9R4JEfpPnfxdyO6r8QMH90wvcL-cb6yr1Y6uCTLFoSHRusJmUeJMRXAGCzOpDN0n6B3yaEAhN9oVy03bNdyCKM4QLlllRyFx8aTwT0hGKosYX0-4-hqnEfgJt&sig=AHIEtbQ3EBojVPib0icVGnIV4x_w28PVhA
That does not actually support what you say. There is no comparison showing athletes v non-athletes with a less nutrient dense or 'unhealthy' diet. .
be happy you got that much. i was about to just say Darryl Kile and let it be.
it talks about fitness vs. health - which is what I'm constantly talking about with folks like you who think the two words are interchangeable.0 -
Also, where are your sources that athletes are at just as high a risk for heart disease as anyone else unless they eat correctly?
Have not seen this question answered yet
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:p4zeJHaVdSoJ:www.philmaffetone.com/files/Athletes-Fit-But-Unhealthy.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShXVXd3gV4c7lB9R4JEfpPnfxdyO6r8QMH90wvcL-cb6yr1Y6uCTLFoSHRusJmUeJMRXAGCzOpDN0n6B3yaEAhN9oVy03bNdyCKM4QLlllRyFx8aTwT0hGKosYX0-4-hqnEfgJt&sig=AHIEtbQ3EBojVPib0icVGnIV4x_w28PVhA
That does not actually support what you say. There is no comparison showing athletes v non-athletes with a less nutrient dense or 'unhealthy' diet. .
be happy you got that much. i was about to just say Darryl Kile and let it be.
it talks about fitness vs. health - which is what I'm constantly talking about with folks like you who think the two words are interchangeable.
ummm. this is a bit ironic coming from the guy that continuously conflates dieting for optimal body composition and "health".0 -
Also, where are your sources that athletes are at just as high a risk for heart disease as anyone else unless they eat correctly?
Have not seen this question answered yet
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:p4zeJHaVdSoJ:www.philmaffetone.com/files/Athletes-Fit-But-Unhealthy.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShXVXd3gV4c7lB9R4JEfpPnfxdyO6r8QMH90wvcL-cb6yr1Y6uCTLFoSHRusJmUeJMRXAGCzOpDN0n6B3yaEAhN9oVy03bNdyCKM4QLlllRyFx8aTwT0hGKosYX0-4-hqnEfgJt&sig=AHIEtbQ3EBojVPib0icVGnIV4x_w28PVhA
That does not actually support what you say. There is no comparison showing athletes v non-athletes with a less nutrient dense or 'unhealthy' diet. .
be happy you got that much. i was about to just say Darryl Kile and let it be.
it talks about fitness vs. health - which is what I'm constantly talking about with folks like you who think the two words are interchangeable.
First of all, when have I said that?
Secondly....neh.....still waiting for you to actually back up your statement
I do find the site amusing though as a source of reference - maybe it's in one of the CDs he sells.
http://www.philmaffetone.com/home.cfm0 -
Also, where are your sources that athletes are at just as high a risk for heart disease as anyone else unless they eat correctly?
Have not seen this question answered yet
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:p4zeJHaVdSoJ:www.philmaffetone.com/files/Athletes-Fit-But-Unhealthy.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShXVXd3gV4c7lB9R4JEfpPnfxdyO6r8QMH90wvcL-cb6yr1Y6uCTLFoSHRusJmUeJMRXAGCzOpDN0n6B3yaEAhN9oVy03bNdyCKM4QLlllRyFx8aTwT0hGKosYX0-4-hqnEfgJt&sig=AHIEtbQ3EBojVPib0icVGnIV4x_w28PVhA
That does not actually support what you say. There is no comparison showing athletes v non-athletes with a less nutrient dense or 'unhealthy' diet. .
Lol, so true!! And so typical. Sad really.0 -
You yourself changed the protein setting to a %age of your calories. IMO 100-120 grams of protein is a good target for most active women.
Did not read thread, sorry if this answer has already been addressed. :laugh:0 -
You yourself changed the protein setting to a %age of your calories. IMO 100-120 grams of protein is a good target for most active women.
Did not read thread, sorry if this answer has already been addressed. :laugh:
huh?
yeah my protein is set at 15% right now and I'm seeing how that works. also - I only weigh 140ish, so 120g is fine.0 -
Pro Tip: Not everything is about you.0
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