Added benefits of eating vegan

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  • 000WhiteRose000
    000WhiteRose000 Posts: 266 Member
    NO BENEFITS

    Agreed.
  • Lyadeia
    Lyadeia Posts: 4,603 Member
    I think the only benefit of eating vegan is that for most people, its a false sense of superiority

    I agree with this.

    But I shall now respectfully step out of the conversation and watch it now go downhill as I consume some popcorn...
  • spamantha57
    spamantha57 Posts: 674 Member
    I'm not 100% super hardcore vegan, but I like to eat "mostly vegan" (like when I grocery shop I usually only buy vegan foods) & also don't eat junk like fast food or artificial sweeteners.


    When I changed my eating habits about 6 years ago I noticed a huge difference in just a few months (besides losing some weight.) My whole life I'd catch every cold that went around, & would get bronchitis & strep throat at least twice a year. Ever since I changed my eating habits I rarely get sick AT ALL (just gotta watch out when the season changes cold & ward off any springtime allergy) and I think I got bronchitis once. Have not gotten strep or the flu at all in at least 6 years. :)

    Oh!
    And I saw someone mentioned the So Delicious brand (and some poor ignorant soul talking about "fake dairy products".)
    SO DELICIOUS IS SOOOOOOOO GOOD!!!!! OMG!!! I love their yogurts, & I finally tried their ice cream sandwiches last week - OMG OMG OMG! I think my mouth is having an orgasm just thinking about it haha. It was so hard for me to stop myself from eating more than one, but at just 100 calories, eating 2 wouldn't have been that bad. :smile:
  • bathsheba_c
    bathsheba_c Posts: 1,873 Member
    Not to rain on your parade, but there are also plenty of people who report negative health effects from being a vegan, even doing everything correctly.

    Not to mention that oreos, potato chips, french fries, and soda are all vegan.

    Most think they are doing it correctly. Big difference.

    Don't know what point as trying to be made with the junk food. Most vegans (usually) give up processed foods too.

    They were doing it under the guidance of doctors and dietitians. Getting enough protein, taking multivitamins, everything. Not to mention that there is a lot more data out there now about how genetics impact the ability of people to go vegetarian.
  • bathsheba_c
    bathsheba_c Posts: 1,873 Member
    Not to rain on your parade, but there are also plenty of people who report negative health effects from being a vegan, even doing everything correctly.

    Not to mention that oreos, potato chips, french fries, and soda are all vegan.

    ...hate to rain on your parade but you should know this....

    "Refined, white sugar, like the kind used in Oreos is sometimes filtered through charred animal bones" source: http://voices.yahoo.com/are-oreos-vegan-might-surprised-11185218.html

    and french fries (at least at Mc Donald's) are not vegan either :(..."Potatoes, vegetable oil (canola oil, hydrogenated soybean oil, natural beef flavor [wheat and milk derivatives]*" source: http://animalrights.about.com/b/2011/10/26/mcdonalds-french-fries-still-not-vegetarian.htm

    As far as potato chips the only kind that I have found to be completely vegan are kettle chips..

    I am not vegan myself but I like to know the facts :) Hope this is helpful :)

    Well, if you're going to be finicky about what counts as vegan, organic produce is fertilized using the manure of domesticated animals and animals are still used in many places to perform agricultural labor.

    I respect the right of people to say, "I want to be vegan, but I don't want to have to check out every single item containing 'natural flavor' and 'natural color' to make sure it isn't beaver *kitten* and crushed beetles."
  • spamantha57
    spamantha57 Posts: 674 Member
    ^ I know a boatload of vegans & vegetarians & I've never come across someone with those types of problems.
    Maybe it's because I'm from California & we're awesome. :wink:
  • bathsheba_c
    bathsheba_c Posts: 1,873 Member
    ^ I know a boatload of vegans & vegetarians & I've never come across someone with those types of problems.
    Maybe it's because I'm from California & we're awesome. :wink:

    Could be. :)

    In all fairness, my small sample set is all genetically related to each other (but not close enough to be passing on bad vegetarian advice, just "small ethnic group" close).
  • allie_rat
    allie_rat Posts: 49 Member
    Not to mention that there is a lot more data out there now about how genetics impact the ability of people to go vegetarian.

    This sounds really interesting. Do you know where I can read about this?
  • Lecterman
    Lecterman Posts: 97 Member

    This is the main one that gets passed around:

    http://curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1728051

    Perfect example of how people get a horribly incorrect view on a topic based on one persons really bad anecdote
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    No benefits. Vegan/Vegatarian was not created for health reasons. The people who brought veganism to western culture were not the kind of people concerned about health. I'll just stop there
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,207 Member
    As far a health benefits and passion, personally the paleo/primal group have everyone beat. It just transformed lives every time.
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    As far a health benefits and passion, personally the paleo/primal group have everyone beat. It just transformed lives every time.

    Yeah, cause we know exactly how paleo man ate. Make sure your buy the paleo protein powder and put BBQ sauce on your chicken wings just like paleo man did:laugh:
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,207 Member
    As far a health benefits and passion, personally the paleo/primal group have everyone beat. It just transformed lives every time.

    Yeah, cause we know exactly how paleo man ate. Make sure your buy the paleo protein powder and put BBQ sauce on your chicken wings just like paleo man did:laugh:
    The consensus shows morningstar burgers with vegan cheese is on the decline lately, so it's a fight to the finish as to which protein is going to be the big seller this year. j/k
  • BobOki
    BobOki Posts: 245 Member
    I have yet to meet a single person that actually eats vegan.... more like.. vegan like.
  • cryswest57
    cryswest57 Posts: 141 Member
    I was just thinking about people who are vegans/vegetarians and their weight loss this morning. I watched a food show last night where they made a veggie burger. I personally don't want to be a vegetarian or vegan, but I am inspired to eat more veggies by this. :) Do you take supplements for protein? I had a friend become sick (who was vegan) because she didn't take them often so please do. I can't remember exactly what happened, but I know she had to start eating meat again. I'm sure someone knows what the cause would be.
  • redraidergirl2009
    redraidergirl2009 Posts: 2,560 Member
    I was just thinking about people who are vegans/vegetarians and their weight loss this morning. I watched a food show last night where they made a veggie burger. I personally don't want to be a vegetarian or vegan, but I am inspired to eat more veggies by this. :) Do you take supplements for protein? I had a friend become sick (who was vegan) because she didn't take them often so please do. I can't remember exactly what happened, but I know she had to start eating meat again. I'm sure someone knows what the cause would be.

    What's a protein supplement? A pill? Lol
  • redraidergirl2009
    redraidergirl2009 Posts: 2,560 Member
    Why are there so many nonvegans on this thread compelled to talk crap? Are you threatened or?
  • PhoenixJR
    PhoenixJR Posts: 32 Member
    Is there any way MFP can get a vegan thread? I am not judging people for following whatever diet they feel is best for themselves, but I am getting tired of the constant self-aggrandizing preachy posts about how awesome veganism is and how gross it is to eat "corpses". Seriously, we all get it, you are all sooooo super awesome for not eating meat/dairy/honey and we are all barbarians.

    I experienced many of the same awesome health benefits by not eating processed foods/grains/legumes. I pretty much eat meat/fruit/vegetables/dairy (I have no intolerances to dairy). I think any diet that isn't the Standard American processed food free for all diet will make anybody see health benefits. If veganism works for you and you feel awesome...well great! I'm glad you found something that works for you! It does not make you a better person.

    Sorry for the rant, and double sorry if I've offended anybody. I am just sick of all the preaching.
  • Lecterman
    Lecterman Posts: 97 Member
    Do you take supplements for protein? I had a friend become sick (who was vegan) because she didn't take them often so please do. I can't remember exactly what happened, but I know she had to start eating meat again. I'm sure someone knows what the cause would be.

    No, many vegans take no "supplements" for protein. The food we eat provides us with plenty. I'm sure vegans who are working to maximize muscle hypertrophy would, just like many non-vegans trying to do so.
  • Lecterman
    Lecterman Posts: 97 Member
    Is there any way MFP can get a vegan thread? I am not judging people for following whatever diet they feel is best for themselves, but I am getting tired of the constant self-aggrandizing preachy posts about how awesome veganism is and how gross it is to eat "corpses". Seriously, we all get it, you are all sooooo super awesome for not eating meat/dairy/honey and we are all barbarians.

    I experienced many of the same awesome health benefits by not eating processed foods/grains/legumes. I pretty much eat meat/fruit/vegetables/dairy (I have no intolerances to dairy). I think any diet that isn't the Standard American processed food free for all diet will make anybody see health benefits. If veganism works for you and you feel awesome...well great! I'm glad you found something that works for you! It does not make you a better person.

    Sorry for the rant, and double sorry if I've offended anybody. I am just sick of all the preaching.

    Maybe just skip them over? Not too hard.
  • redraidergirl2009
    redraidergirl2009 Posts: 2,560 Member
    Is there any way MFP can get a vegan thread? I am not judging people for following whatever diet they feel is best for themselves, but I am getting tired of the constant self-aggrandizing preachy posts about how awesome veganism is and how gross it is to eat "corpses". Seriously, we all get it, you are all sooooo super awesome for not eating meat/dairy/honey and we are all barbarians.

    I experienced many of the same awesome health benefits by not eating processed foods/grains/legumes. I pretty much eat meat/fruit/vegetables/dairy (I have no intolerances to dairy). I think any diet that isn't the Standard American processed food free for all diet will make anybody see health benefits. If veganism works for you and you feel awesome...well great! I'm glad you found something that works for you! It does not make you a better person.

    Sorry for the rant, and double sorry if I've offended anybody. I am just sick of all the preaching.

    No one on this thread was preaching or talking about eating corpses. Vegans can't have one thread open without someone making jokes or bashing it, yet nonvegans can. How about you look at it from our perspective?
  • bathsheba_c
    bathsheba_c Posts: 1,873 Member
    The thread is about the health benefits of veganism. We're saying that a vegan diet is not necessarily healthy, and that not everyone can be healthy on an ideal vegan diet. That hardly meets the definition of "talking crap." Unless, of course, YOU feel threatened by anything less than fawning adoration . . .
  • redraidergirl2009
    redraidergirl2009 Posts: 2,560 Member
    The thread is about the health benefits of veganism. We're saying that a vegan diet is not necessarily healthy, and that not everyone can be healthy on an ideal vegan diet. That hardly meets the definition of "talking crap." Unless, of course, YOU feel threatened by anything less than fawning adoration . . .

    This might blow your mind but vegans generally know that avvegan diet isnt necessary healthly. Most of us read labels and are well aware how much junk food is actually vegan k?
  • PhoenixJR
    PhoenixJR Posts: 32 Member
    Is there any way MFP can get a vegan thread? I am not judging people for following whatever diet they feel is best for themselves, but I am getting tired of the constant self-aggrandizing preachy posts about how awesome veganism is and how gross it is to eat "corpses". Seriously, we all get it, you are all sooooo super awesome for not eating meat/dairy/honey and we are all barbarians.

    I experienced many of the same awesome health benefits by not eating processed foods/grains/legumes. I pretty much eat meat/fruit/vegetables/dairy (I have no intolerances to dairy). I think any diet that isn't the Standard American processed food free for all diet will make anybody see health benefits. If veganism works for you and you feel awesome...well great! I'm glad you found something that works for you! It does not make you a better person.

    Sorry for the rant, and double sorry if I've offended anybody. I am just sick of all the preaching.

    No one on this thread was preaching or talking about eating corpses. Vegans can't have one thread open without someone making jokes or bashing it, yet nonvegans can. How about you look at it from our perspective?

    I guess what I am trying to say is that I came onto the food and nutritions threat to try and find information about food and nutrition, and it is constantly riddled with "OMG VEGANISM IS SO SUPERAWESOME!!!". Maybe I am sensitive because I tried veganism and ended up sick, but these posts would really be better suited for a vegan group? That way lumbering omnivores won't stumble in and ruin the party!
  • redraidergirl2009
    redraidergirl2009 Posts: 2,560 Member
    Not to mention mfp is a health/fitness site so most vegans here probably make better food choices than your non-health conscious ones. You can eat crap on any kind of diet. Paleo, vegan whatever.
  • FlaxMilk
    FlaxMilk Posts: 3,452 Member
    I think the only benefit of eating vegan is that for most people, its a false sense of superiority

    And an opportunity for people to make generalizations and judgments on a group of people that they have no way of knowing "most of"?

    The benefit for me is being able to eat in a way that is more in line with my values. I say more in line because I don't have the ability to actually control every product I encounter in the world to make sure it is vegan. Those I can, I do.
  • redraidergirl2009
    redraidergirl2009 Posts: 2,560 Member
    Is there any way MFP can get a vegan thread? I am not judging people for following whatever diet they feel is best for themselves, but I am getting tired of the constant self-aggrandizing preachy posts about how awesome veganism is and how gross it is to eat "corpses". Seriously, we all get it, you are all sooooo super awesome for not eating meat/dairy/honey and we are all barbarians.

    I experienced many of the same awesome health benefits by not eating processed foods/grains/legumes. I pretty much eat meat/fruit/vegetables/dairy (I have no intolerances to dairy). I think any diet that isn't the Standard American processed food free for all diet will make anybody see health benefits. If veganism works for you and you feel awesome...well great! I'm glad you found something that works for you! It does not make you a better person.

    Sorry for the rant, and double sorry if I've offended anybody. I am just sick of all the preaching.

    No one on this thread was preaching or talking about eating corpses. Vegans can't have one thread open without someone making jokes or bashing it, yet nonvegans can. How about you look at it from our perspective?

    I guess what I am trying to say is that I came onto the food and nutritions threat to try and find information about food and nutrition, and it is constantly riddled with "OMG VEGANISM IS SO SUPERAWESOME!!!". Maybe I am sensitive because I tried veganism and ended up sick, but these posts would really be better suited for a vegan group? That way lumbering omnivores won't stumble in and ruin the party!

    You came across it but apparently you have some hostility towards veganism because It didnt work for you so why would you even open it? Why should vegans have to be forced into a little group because some people can't control their anger or jokes at something they don't like or understand?
  • PonyTailedLoser
    PonyTailedLoser Posts: 315 Member
    I found that my cramps get way less painful when I am hardcore vegan. Also, skin cleared up :)
  • Hadabetter
    Hadabetter Posts: 942 Member
    These are real people that experienced a lot of unexpected health benefits, no scientific analysis or studies in this article, just regular people and real results.

    I'm glad these people feel well, but anecdotal evidence means nothing. It's the scientific analysis and studies that determine whether the results these regular people had were real or imagined.
  • PhoenixJR
    PhoenixJR Posts: 32 Member
    Not to mention mfp is a health/fitness site so most vegans here probably make better food choices than your non-health conscious ones. You can eat crap on any kind of diet. Paleo, vegan whatever.

    This is exactly what I was talking about. I never said vegans made horrible health choices, I merely said I was tired of the daily preachy posts.

    You automatically assume that because I am not vegan, I am automatically making terrible decisions with my diet. Here is what I ate/will eat today:

    Skyr made from free range/grass fed/hormone free milk
    2 prunes

    Grilled hormone-free/free range chicken
    Sweat potato
    Steamed broccoli

    Almonds

    Skyr

    Apple

    Braised spinach
    Sunchokes
    2 eggs from free range/hormone free chickens

    Yes, obviously I am making horrible decisions with my health.
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