I quit
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^ this. thank you for posting this. hopefully it will open someones eyes. even if it's just 1 person. I'm not very active on MFP forums and the rude answers some people give are one of the reasons why. OP: you'll be fine. Quiting is very permanent. You don't want that. Believe me.0
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the only person I see you hurting in all of this is you.
so good job on hurting you.
and thank you for telling all of us about your continued quest to hurt yourself.
Huh. This is personally extremely relevant in my life and my approach to a few things right now. I really like how you worded that - gives me pause. Thank you for that.0 -
I'm sorry you are feeling bad and having a hard week. I hope you find strength within yourself to keep moving forward.I've had a hard week.....family members in critical aneurym life threatening surgery among other things and I read something that comforted me and I tried to share that on a thread on here -- rather than reading, deciding it's not for you and moving on - some folks felt the need to make unnecessary comments.
I get we all have our opinions - on every topic -- but you can respond or not respond. Even when I disagree, I try to be kind. Sometimes, you need to think about the poster and where they may be. It's just been a really heartwrenching few weeks and I could have used some friendly comments - or none at all - as opposed to some that I received.
I don't need to be 'rescued"....and I'm not manipulative. I'm just a person trying to provide something comforting to those who may be receptive to that - at a time I needed comfort as well.
Intentional or not, your original post was manipulative. I don't think you are a bad person for it. I hope you would want an honest opinion about it.
I'm glad you don't need to be rescued. That tells me you are not as likely to quit. That's good. And trying to offer comfort to others is a good thing. Just because other people don't agree with your methods of comfort don't make them wrong ("them" applies to both your methods and other people).
Offer comfort genuinely and free. It will be received by some, ignored by some, rejected by some, perhaps ridiculed by some. Who cares? You offered comfort. For free. Free of expectations and returns. Free of judgment. The reactions don't matter.
Hang in there.0 -
So now it is not allowed, to post something unrelated on a thread topic? Gee whillickers, I never knew. My sincerest apologies.
Apology accepted.0 -
Friends lists and groups are the best place to turn to for support. The public forums here have suffered from the weight of MFP's popularity. It's the sad natural evolution of a internet message board. When a forum gets popular enough eventually the 1% ruins it for the rest.
Don't give up, don't give in. As Macarthur once said "we're not retreating, we are advancing in a different direction." Advance in a different direction and you got this.0 -
The more you know.
^GI-Joooooooe
/ahem
Anyway: report me, then, since the force of negativity on this community is like a hurricane that refuses to die. Even though I offered to OP that she could privately message me to talk, and yes I did mean it. But I violated the rules, so report me.
NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!!!!! G.I. Joe is: "Knowing is half the battle". If you cant even get that right, how can we trust any of your other content?0 -
You also said you weren't returning to this thread.
I do wish you would actually follow through on your actions.0 -
So now it is not allowed, to post something unrelated on a thread topic? Gee whillickers, I never knew. My sincerest apologies.
I don't like certain people or groups of people here, yes, you're right. The same can be said for everyone, even the well-liked people going on their rants about other people being too naive, too sensitive, or adding weird foods to the database. However, the people who tell THEM not to post get shot down for exactly the same reasons. Isn't that ironic. (Similarly, if you didn't like MY post, why bother replying to it? See how this circular logic is ineffective?) Also, there are plenty of level-headed people on here, or people who choose to voice their disagreements with others in a way that is not disrespectful, judgmental or hurtful.
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Take a break...maybe, but quit? Never quit look at all the replies you got...best wishes and when you look back you'll wonder "what was I thinking!".
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You also said you weren't returning to this thread.
The more you know.
^GI-Joooooooe
/ahem
Anyway: report me, then, since the force of negativity on this community is like a hurricane that refuses to die. Even though I offered to OP that she could privately message me to talk, and yes I did mean it. But I violated the rules, so report me.
I do wish you would actually follow through on your actions.
@DontStop :flowerforyou: for the giggles!0 -
I don't like certain people or groups of people here, yes, you're right. The same can be said for everyone, even the well-liked people going on their rants about other people being too naive, too sensitive, or adding weird foods to the database. However, the people who tell THEM not to post get shot down for exactly the same reasons. Isn't that ironic. (Similarly, if you didn't like MY post, why bother replying to it? See how this circular logic is ineffective?) Also, there are plenty of level-headed people on here, or people who choose to voice their disagreements with others in a way that is not disrespectful, judgmental or hurtful.
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So now it is not allowed, to post something unrelated on a thread topic? Gee whillickers, I never knew. My sincerest apologies.
I don't like certain people or groups of people here, yes, you're right. The same can be said for everyone, even the well-liked people going on their rants about other people being too naive, too sensitive, or adding weird foods to the database. However, the people who tell THEM not to post get shot down for exactly the same reasons. Isn't that ironic. (Similarly, if you didn't like MY post, why bother replying to it? See how this circular logic is ineffective?) Also, there are plenty of level-headed people on here, or people who choose to voice their disagreements with others in a way that is not disrespectful, judgmental or hurtful.
1. Hijacking threads is not allowed as per MFP forum rules
2. Stop making this thread about you! It's not!
3. Stop feigning support for the OP when you are just using this thread as your own personal soapbox - it's beyong irritating and is not fair to the OP0 -
So now it is not allowed, to post something unrelated on a thread topic? Gee whillickers, I never knew. My sincerest apologies.
I don't like certain people or groups of people here, yes, you're right. The same can be said for everyone, even the well-liked people going on their rants about other people being too naive, too sensitive, or adding weird foods to the database. However, the people who tell THEM not to post get shot down for exactly the same reasons. Isn't that ironic. (Similarly, if you didn't like MY post, why bother replying to it? See how this circular logic is ineffective?) Also, there are plenty of level-headed people on here, or people who choose to voice their disagreements with others in a way that is not disrespectful, judgmental or hurtful.
1. Hijacking threads is not allowed as per MFP forum rules
2. Stop making this thread about you! It's not!
3. Stop feigning support for the OP when you are just using this thread as your own personal soapbox - it's beyong irritating and is not fair to the OP
Or as we Brits say...Bugger off!!0 -
If you write a post saying title I Quit , then you already did. I'm not a quitter....I like to solve the puzzle or die trying.
"Nutrition is a diet......Nutrition with exercise is a LIFESTYLE"0 -
So now it is not allowed, to post something unrelated on a thread topic? Gee whillickers, I never knew. My sincerest apologies.
I don't like certain people or groups of people here, yes, you're right. The same can be said for everyone, even the well-liked people going on their rants about other people being too naive, too sensitive, or adding weird foods to the database. However, the people who tell THEM not to post get shot down for exactly the same reasons. Isn't that ironic. (Similarly, if you didn't like MY post, why bother replying to it? See how this circular logic is ineffective?) Also, there are plenty of level-headed people on here, or people who choose to voice their disagreements with others in a way that is not disrespectful, judgmental or hurtful.
1. Hijacking threads is not allowed as per MFP forum rules
2. Stop making this thread about you! It's not!
3. Stop feigning support for the OP when you are just using this thread as your own personal soapbox - it's beyong irritating and is not fair to the OP
Plus, the G.I. Joe Debacle of 10:19 is still fresh in everyone's minds. It's going to take a while to recover from that one. Your credibility has been completely shot.0 -
I know I've just joined, but isn't this whole forum dedicated to being supportive/ helpful? So whether or not someone agrees or disagrees with your religion/preferences is really irrelevant, they either find the motivation that they were looking for and move on, or they don't, and move on.
Either way, the key phrase here is move on...
Personally I'm not at all religious, nor do I find solace in thinking religious/spiritual things, but if that works for some great, and I hope you reach your goals because of it. And if it doesn't help you do what I do, say "Oh this isn't for me" And go on to the next post.
No need for all the trolling or negativity.0 -
Haha, this is as epic as your original thread a few days ago. If you can refer back to any posts that 'bullied' the OP, either in this thread or her last thread, then please do, as I'd be intrigued to see what your interpretation of 'bullying' is. I'm pretty sure 99% of the people that repeatedly cry 'bully!' on here have never actually suffered real bullying once in their life.
As I said at the beginning, I rather impolitely tacked onto this thread merely because I knew people would be more likely to read it here. I did not read OP's controversial (or not) post. I did, however, offer to discuss the topic with her personally, since she seems upset. And that's an interesting assumption of yours-- are you an authority on "real" bullying? I am not, which is why I quoted an article. I do not claim to know everything. Have a nice day.
Ah, so you have posted a huge comment about bullying when you have no actual idea if the OP has been bullied or if that's why she is upset? Are you going around posting this on everyone's threads just in case people are 'more likely to read it'?
I am not an authority on 'real' bullying - however, I HAVE been bullied, and I can assure you that is not what happens here.
You clearly don't like this forum as you repeatedly go on about all the nasty bullies on here, so how about you just don't post. Have a nice day.
So now it is not allowed, to post something unrelated on a thread topic? Gee whillickers, I never knew. My sincerest apologies.
I don't like certain people or groups of people here, yes, you're right. The same can be said for everyone, even the well-liked people going on their rants about other people being too naive, too sensitive, or adding weird foods to the database. However, the people who tell THEM not to post get shot down for exactly the same reasons. Isn't that ironic. (Similarly, if you didn't like MY post, why bother replying to it? See how this circular logic is ineffective?) Also, there are plenty of level-headed people on here, or people who choose to voice their disagreements with others in a way that is not disrespectful, judgmental or hurtful.
No, it isn't. Read the forum guidelines.
Yawn, more of the same drivel. You make me laugh; you must realise that you are clearly not hitting the mark from the amount of negative responses you get from the majority of other people, yet you still try and argue your (invalid) point. :laugh:0 -
I know I've just joined, but isn't this whole forum dedicated to being supportive/ helpful? So whether or not someone agrees or disagrees with your religion/preferences is really irrelevant, they either find the motivation that they were looking for and move on, or they don't, and move on.
Either way, the key phrase here is move on...
Personally I'm not at all religious, nor do I find solace in thinking religious/spiritual things, but if that works for some great, and I hope you reach your goals because of it. And if it doesn't help you do what I do, say "Oh this isn't for me" And go on to the next post.
No need for all the trolling or negativity.
Sadly, the "internet persona" of many people nowadays is to appear more snappy and cynical than they really are. I keep stressing for people to focus on themselves. Only reason I go on the message boards are for two things usually: the funny threads for entertainment value or talking smack on Dr. Oz.0 -
This is my opinion too.I did not read the original post so hopefully this is going to be relevant all I know is it was something about God:
Don't base your emotions on other people especially people In these threads. Sometimes when you start to talk about The Lord esp. On online forums it can be like jumping into a shark tank.
If you are a Christian and love Jesus- girl base your emotions on Him because your identity comes from Him and who He says you are! Not others around you... Jesus came with an offensive message actually (salvation) which eventually got him crucified. If He said 'no servent is above there master' surely we as believers will encounter forms of persecution as well in our walk with Him just as he and all His disciples did. In the beatitudes The Lord actually says BLESSED are those who are persecuted for my names sake (For telling the message He brought).
Finally you can't give up because He does NOT give up on people, and He never stops Persuing the lost in love and we are to follow His example. Sometimes this means being hated by the world for His namesake. Remember that His Spirit is strongest in our weakness so just lean on The Lord when things get hard. Often when we quit is the time He finally gets the chance to carry us Be encouraged!
Hopefully this is relevant to what you are talking about. Like I said I didn't read the last thread this referred to so I might have completely missed the point. If that's so haha I guess you can ignor this. Have a great day!0 -
This thread has gotten to 5 pages, seriously? Good lord...0
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This thread has gotten to 5 pages, seriously? Good lord...
Trolls gotta troll.0 -
Why would anyone come onto a thread called "motivation and support" and leave only criticism, often in sneering or angry tones for good measure? As someone pretty new to this forum I find a lot of this thread upsetting, and it would certainly make me think twice about asking for support or motivation from the forum. If you didn't trust the original posters motives, or whatever, why not just close the thread and move on?
As somebody's mother used to say, "if you can't think of anything nice to say, say nothing".0 -
This thread has gotten to 5 pages, seriously? Good lord...
I'm placing my bets that it will go on for a lot longer too....0 -
This thread has gotten to 5 pages, seriously? Good lord...
Trolls gotta troll.
The only troll I've seen in here specifically asked for us to report her... but then, as she's taken over the thread, I suppose that is right proper trolling.
BTW: Troll = intentionally trying to flame-bait/anger/piss people off. Someone that's brash, or more realistic, or more "cynical" as you so put it in your other posts on here, isn't a troll. Just someone with a differing world view than you.0 -
I know I've just joined, but isn't this whole forum dedicated to being supportive/ helpful? So whether or not someone agrees or disagrees with your religion/preferences is really irrelevant, they either find the motivation that they were looking for and move on, or they don't, and move on.
Either way, the key phrase here is move on...
Personally I'm not at all religious, nor do I find solace in thinking religious/spiritual things, but if that works for some great, and I hope you reach your goals because of it. And if it doesn't help you do what I do, say "Oh this isn't for me" And go on to the next post.
No need for all the trolling or negativity.
It's a hard balance... yes, support is a part of it, but support means different things to different people. Additionally, how do you support someone (or some post) that is giving bad information? So yes, support is part of it, but the forms are also very largely about learning and information sharing.0 -
Unfortunately very true. Anonymity + Normal person = Horrid douche.
Still, it's disheartening that people get so worked up over so little. If everyone acted like this face to face we'd be witnessing several murders a day in on our way to the train.0 -
I've had a hard week.....family members in critical aneurym life threatening surgery among other things and I read something that comforted me and I tried to share that on a thread on here -- rather than reading, deciding it's not for you and moving on - some folks felt the need to make unnecessary comments.
I get we all have our opinions - on every topic -- but you can respond or not respond. Even when I disagree, I try to be kind. Sometimes, you need to think about the poster and where they may be. It's just been a really heartwrenching few weeks and I could have used some friendly comments - or none at all - as opposed to some that I received.
I don't need to be 'rescued"....and I'm not manipulative. I'm just a person trying to provide something comforting to those who may be receptive to that - at a time I needed comfort as well.
You really need to work on not letting people on the internet get to you. I'm not trying to be mean, but if faceless comments disagreeing with what you post in a public forum (not everyone will always agree with you) make you give up on everything, I think that indicates something larger going on.
Hope things get better.0 -
I know I've just joined, but isn't this whole forum dedicated to being supportive/ helpful? So whether or not someone agrees or disagrees with your religion/preferences is really irrelevant, they either find the motivation that they were looking for and move on, or they don't, and move on.
Either way, the key phrase here is move on...
Personally I'm not at all religious, nor do I find solace in thinking religious/spiritual things, but if that works for some great, and I hope you reach your goals because of it. And if it doesn't help you do what I do, say "Oh this isn't for me" And go on to the next post.
No need for all the trolling or negativity.
It's a hard balance... yes, support is a part of it, but support means different things to different people. Additionally, how do you support someone (or some post) that is giving bad information? So yes, support is part of it, but the forms are also very largely about learning and information sharing.
I understand that, and you're right, but if you have nothing constructive to say why attack someone, is I guess the point I was after. If you're really coming here to help or be helped, there shouldn't be a reason to attack anyone.0 -
I was going to post this elsewhere, but this is probably going to blow up and be read by everyone within the hour anyway so here you go. No, I do not know what post above commenters are referring to, since I don't lurk the forums 24/7. I can only imagine it went the way of most MFP threads here these days.
The following quotes are from this article. http://ilookbothways.com/learn-safety/cyberbullying/
"Others cyberbully because they are bored. This usually starts with friends who are casting around for something to do and think it will funny to bully someone online. Once they start, it sometimes takes on a life of its own and continues for months, even an entire school year.
The potential list of underlying factors is long. Yet what we do know is that no child is born a bully; it is a learned behavior. It is also ultimately a choice. Plenty of kids grow up with the same predisposition factors as bullies yet choose to use other methods to solve problems.
The act of bullying, whether online or offline may have longer term consequences for the bully than for the victim. Bullying often becomes the default coping method, a negative pattern that is reinforced as bullies surround themselves with friends who approve of or even support their aggressive actions.
While young bullies may enjoy a temporary level of popularity and peer status, they often have trouble making and keeping friends, do poorly in school, and aren’t well liked by teachers. Bullies also have an increased risk for using alcohol and drugs.
Bullies may fail to develop a mature sense of justice. Instead they justify their actions by manufacturing a fault in their victim — it may be that the victim is “dumb” or conversely that the victim is “smart.” Any trait or perceived difference can be used to create a reason. When challenged, cyberbullies commonly defend their actions as benefiting their victims with claims like “it will help him toughen up” or “it will teach her to fit in.” Offenders of cyberbullying tend to rationalize their behavior in certain ways. Half justify it as being done in fun, instructive (22.2 percent), or as an indirect tool used to strengthen victims (13 percent)."
"Often this viewpoint is accompanied by the attitude that the victim needs to “learn to take a joke” or “toughen up.” Not only does this point of view utterly disregard the damage done to victims; it fails to recognize the very dangerous path bullies themselves walk or to address the underlying causes of bullying."
Just some food for thought. No, I am not saying I am a suicidal victim here, before y'all get on your high horses and flame me. I don't really give a rat's *kitten* about what any of you think of me, but I am posting this because I am sick and tired of seeing other people get abused here for no good reason.
And I'm done here. Have a nice day everyone. OP, if you need to talk, feel free to message me.
Is there a tl;dr version?
I believe the TL;DR is: hijacking this unrelated thread to use as a pulpit for this cut-and-paste article I found.0 -
Unfortunately very true. Anonymity + Normal person = Horrid douche.
Still, it's disheartening that people get so worked up over so little. If everyone acted like this face to face we'd be witnessing several murders a day in on our way to the train.
^^ This.0
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