breakfast...the most unhealthiest meal of the day..

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  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    How does this make sense. Less than half the people in the US eat breakfast yet you are blaming breakfast for people being obese. So if 80% of people eat dinner then it must be dinners fault that people are obese. Lets cut dinner out then. Would go more towards your logic.

    i am not blaming breakfast..I just quoted the stats...

    Everyone says that breakfast is the most healthiest meal of the day. yet 2/3 of those eating breakfast are obese..I find this interesting...why is breakfast so "healthy" yet the people eating it are obese???

    Please, please stop saying "most healthiest." It is a redundant statement. The word healthiest already means "most healthy," so there is no need to add an extra most in there. It's like nails on a chalkboard. Please and thank you. :flowerforyou:

    really? This is grammar class now...my bad, I guess the two vodkas I had are impeding my typing...rolling eyes

    stay on topic people..!

    So, breakfast: bad, vodka: good. Got it.

    vodka is always superior to breakfast
  • RunDoozer
    RunDoozer Posts: 1,699 Member
    I just gave ya'll the stats that the government posts on the subject..so don't be getting all mad at me....

    Citation, please.
    Source: USDA, Food and Agricultural Organization

    Stating general organization names is not citing anything.
  • littlebudgie
    littlebudgie Posts: 279 Member
    I just gave ya'll the stats that the government posts on the subject..so don't be getting all mad at me....

    Citation, please.
    Source: USDA, Food and Agricultural Organization

    CDC: More than one-third of U.S. adults (35.7%) are obese. Source: http://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html

    So unless the American obesity rate managed to double in six months....
  • chocl8girl
    chocl8girl Posts: 1,968 Member
    I just gave ya'll the stats that the government posts on the subject..so don't be getting all mad at me....

    Citation, please.
    Source: USDA, Food and Agricultural Organization

    I seriously doubt the USDA came to anything near the preposterous conclusion you have drawn. Provide credible links to this absurdity, please.
  • jendraka
    jendraka Posts: 117 Member
    I've never heard of it being called "the healthiest" meal of the day, but I have heard it said for years that it is the "most important meal" of the day. Did you maybe get this mixed up?

    why is it the most important?

    Because you're breaking your fast. It doesn't necessarily matter if you eat at 6am or 11am or if you eat a breakfast type food, but it matters that you break the fast. It provides you with fuel for your day, kick starts your metabolism and body functions and keeps you from gnawing off your arm.

    But yeah, breakfast has been deemed "most important" not "healthiest".
    ^^This. Enough said.
  • DaniKenmir
    DaniKenmir Posts: 387 Member
    You wont catch me giving up my Vegemite toast for brekkie!
  • RunDoozer
    RunDoozer Posts: 1,699 Member
    The troll is strong in this one. At least pick a fun topic to piss people off about. This is just confusing to people starting out and looking for useful information.

    I think you're giving him too much credit here. That would imply that he knows the crap he's saying is wrong. I'm not so sure thats the case.
  • When you skip breakfast you're more likely to pig out later in the day. Dumb theory. Moving on.

    ALSO, assuming you sleep like 8 hours a night your body should NOT go that long without food. Lets say you go to bed at 10pm and don't eat again until lunch time, noon. Please enlighten me on how that is good for your body/metabolism.
  • redheaddee
    redheaddee Posts: 2,005 Member
    vodka is always superior to breakfast

    Edited to correct grammer: Vodka is always superior for breakfast.
  • KatjaO
    KatjaO Posts: 71
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    Correlation =/= causation.


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  • baptiste565
    baptiste565 Posts: 590 Member
    most people eat breakfast and most people have credit card debt, so eating breakfast causes u to have bad credit. so to solve the national debt obama just has to skip breakfast. lol
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    When you skip breakfast you're more likely to pig out later in the day. Dumb theory. Moving on.

    I don't have any problem later in the day..my largest meal is post work out and I am good to go ...

    Plenty of IF'ers have no problem with this ..

    so your statement is wrong on numerous levels.
  • KristineW78
    KristineW78 Posts: 42 Member
    I only eat it if I am hungry. When I do, it's got protein or veggies. I don't go to McDonalds! *lol*
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    most people eat breakfast and most people have credit card debt, so eating breakfast causes u to have bad credit. so to solve the national debt obama just has to skip breakfast. lol

    holy **** call congress we just solved the debt problem?

    If we cut breakfast by 50% we will cut the national debt by 50% too....brilliant!
  • NaomiJFoster
    NaomiJFoster Posts: 1,450 Member
    I dont think obesity and eating breakfast are directly linked - as in stop eating breakfast and you wont be fat - obviously eating 5 burgers for breakfast is not a good idea - but something sensible like 2 pieces of wholemeal toast with low fat topping or fruit and yogurt or bowl of non sugared cereal is fine.

    Not eating breakfast does lead to concentration lags during the morning and for some people mid morning binges.

    People like diabetics on medication must eat breakfast to avoid hypos.



    I dont think your theory is very sound.

    why not? Everyone says that breakfast is the most "healthiest meal" of the day. But most of the people eating breakfast are obese. You know who is selling that breakfast is the healthiest meal line...the companies that are selling you breakfast - Kellogg's, quaker, etc etc...so OF COURSE they want you to think breakfast is healthy so you will keep buying their crap....

    Nobody says it's the 'healthiest' meal of the day. It is said to be the 'most important' meal of the day. That's an enormous difference. After fasting from late evening until morning, usually around 8,9, or 10 hours...it is time for the body and brain to have fuel. That's important. Now, some people don't like eating breakfast. That's their own thing. But eating a healthy breakfast is not going to cause obesity.

    Lots of people eat breakfast. Lots of people are fat. Therefore breakfast causes fat. ...There's some logic missing.
  • anifani4
    anifani4 Posts: 457 Member
    If the definition of breakfast is "food which breaks a fast", presumably at the end of a night of sleeping, but perhaps not, then the first food you eat, no matter what time of day....IS Breakfast. So, OP, you Do eat breakfast...you are only calling it something else because it's later in the day and not typical breakfast food.

    I can't cite a source but remember reading a report that said "dieters" (meaning people trying to lose weight) are more successful if they eat breakfast. The ones who skipped breakfast tended to overeat and even binge later in the day. Which is probably why they would say, "But I'm not hungry in the morning."
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I dont think obesity and eating breakfast are directly linked - as in stop eating breakfast and you wont be fat - obviously eating 5 burgers for breakfast is not a good idea - but something sensible like 2 pieces of wholemeal toast with low fat topping or fruit and yogurt or bowl of non sugared cereal is fine.

    Not eating breakfast does lead to concentration lags during the morning and for some people mid morning binges.

    People like diabetics on medication must eat breakfast to avoid hypos.



    I dont think your theory is very sound.

    why not? Everyone says that breakfast is the most "healthiest meal" of the day. But most of the people eating breakfast are obese. You know who is selling that breakfast is the healthiest meal line...the companies that are selling you breakfast - Kellogg's, quaker, etc etc...so OF COURSE they want you to think breakfast is healthy so you will keep buying their crap....

    Nobody says it's the 'healthiest' meal of the day. It is said to be the 'most important' meal of the day. That's an enormous difference. After fasting from late evening until morning, usually around 8,9, or 10 hours...it is time for the body and brain to have fuel. That's important. Now, some people don't like eating breakfast. That's their own thing. But eating a healthy breakfast is not going to cause obesity.

    Lots of people eat breakfast. Lots of people are fat. Therefore breakfast causes fat. ...There's some logic missing.

    again wrong....eating breakfast has nothing to do with metabolism...
  • rosiereally2
    rosiereally2 Posts: 539 Member
    Mmmm... Pop-Tarts!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Mmmm... Pop-Tarts!

    this is exactly what I am talking about!
  • When you skip breakfast you're more likely to pig out later in the day. Dumb theory. Moving on.

    I don't have any problem later in the day..my largest meal is post work out and I am good to go ...

    Plenty of IF'ers have no problem with this ..

    so your statement is wrong on numerous levels.


    Too lazy to continue any argument that starts with "the most unhealthiest".
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    When you skip breakfast you're more likely to pig out later in the day. Dumb theory. Moving on.

    I don't have any problem later in the day..my largest meal is post work out and I am good to go ...

    Plenty of IF'ers have no problem with this ..

    so your statement is wrong on numerous levels.


    Too lazy to continue any argument that starts with "the most unhealthiest".
    translation - you have no clue what i am talking about....
  • baptiste565
    baptiste565 Posts: 590 Member
    most people eat breakfast and most people have credit card debt, so eating breakfast causes u to have bad credit. so to solve the national debt obama just has to skip breakfast. lol

    holy **** call congress we just solved the debt problem?

    If we cut breakfast by 50% we will cut the national debt by 50% too....brilliant!
    GOOD SENSE OF HUMOR!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    most people eat breakfast and most people have credit card debt, so eating breakfast causes u to have bad credit. so to solve the national debt obama just has to skip breakfast. lol

    holy **** call congress we just solved the debt problem?

    If we cut breakfast by 50% we will cut the national debt by 50% too....brilliant!
    GOOD SENSE OF HUMOR!
    what can I say, I am a freaking comedian! LOL Glad you appreciate it my friend...
  • CristinaL1983
    CristinaL1983 Posts: 1,119 Member
    You want to see some hilarious correlation?
    http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v57/n7/abs/1601618a.html
    In adults, smoking, infrequent exercise, low education level, male sex, higher BMI, and more frequent alcohol use were associated with breakfast skipping.

    Of course there's this:
    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/55/3/645.short
    Fifty-two moderately obese adult women were stratified according to their baseline breakfast-eating habits and randomly assigned a weight-loss program. The no-breakfast group ate two meals per day and the breakfast group ate three meals per day. The energy content of the two weight-loss programs was identical. After the 12-wk treatment, baseline breakfast eaters lost 8.9 kg in the no-breakfast treatment and 6.2 kg in the breakfast treatment. Baseline breakfast skippers lost 7.7 kg in the breakfast treatment and 6.0 kg in the no-breakfast treatment. This treatment-by-strata-by-time interaction effect (P less than 0.06) suggests that those who had to make the most substantial changes in eating habits to comply with the program achieved better results. Analyses of behavioral data suggested that eating breakfast helped reduce dietary fat and minimize impulsive snacking and therefore may be an important part of a weight-reduction program.

    So if you normally eat breakfast, skipping breakfast will help you lose weight. If you normally skip breakfast, eating breakfast will help you lose more weight.

    Of course, then there is this study:
    http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/158/1/85.short
    In contrast, skipping breakfast was associated with increased prevalence of obesity (odds ratio = 4.5, 95% confidence interval: 1.57, 12.90), as was greater frequency of eating breakfast or dinner away from home.

    Since I practice intermittent fasting, my "breakfast" is usually around 2pm because I feel better having not eaten first thing in the morning and I don't think it impacts my weight loss. I have read articles by doctors who say that breakfast can be good but can also be one of the easiest ways to cut excess calories out of your day (if you can continue to make good decisions about food) if you are trying to lose weight. I think it all depends on each person.

    One of the studies I quoted shows that people who usually eat breakfast lost more weight not eating breakfast and people who don't usually eat breakfast lost more weight by eating breakfast. Their diets were identical in calories and macros. Only the timing was different. Like I said, it depends on the person.

    Saying breakfast causes obesity is pretty silly though. I think there is more evidence to the contrary than there is supporting that statement.
  • i never eat breakfast, i normally just have coffee for breakfast.. and then wait to eat until lunch. whenever i do eat breakfast like if someone cooks so i feel bad and have to eat it - i always gain weight when i weigh myself the next day.. plus im not even hungry until like 12:00 anyway.. agree with you 100%!
  • NaomiJFoster
    NaomiJFoster Posts: 1,450 Member
    I dont think obesity and eating breakfast are directly linked - as in stop eating breakfast and you wont be fat - obviously eating 5 burgers for breakfast is not a good idea - but something sensible like 2 pieces of wholemeal toast with low fat topping or fruit and yogurt or bowl of non sugared cereal is fine.

    Not eating breakfast does lead to concentration lags during the morning and for some people mid morning binges.

    People like diabetics on medication must eat breakfast to avoid hypos.



    I dont think your theory is very sound.

    why not? Everyone says that breakfast is the most "healthiest meal" of the day. But most of the people eating breakfast are obese. You know who is selling that breakfast is the healthiest meal line...the companies that are selling you breakfast - Kellogg's, quaker, etc etc...so OF COURSE they want you to think breakfast is healthy so you will keep buying their crap....

    Nobody says it's the 'healthiest' meal of the day. It is said to be the 'most important' meal of the day. That's an enormous difference. After fasting from late evening until morning, usually around 8,9, or 10 hours...it is time for the body and brain to have fuel. That's important. Now, some people don't like eating breakfast. That's their own thing. But eating a healthy breakfast is not going to cause obesity.

    Lots of people eat breakfast. Lots of people are fat. Therefore breakfast causes fat. ...There's some logic missing.

    again wrong....eating breakfast has nothing to do with metabolism...

    Brain function. The brain needs sleep, and a steady supply of oxygen and fuel in order to function properly.

    Obviously many people do just fine without breakfast right away in the morning. But many people feel weak and shaky and lethargic without morning food. Fine either way. What works for you, works for you.

    Your assertation that eating a healthy breakfast soon after waking is what *causes* obesity is nonsensical.
  • FitandFab33
    FitandFab33 Posts: 718 Member
    I just love bacon. I don't limit it to morning.

    I also like (hm-mmmph).. I don't limit that to morning either.

    Totally off-topic, but today is National Margarita Day- Happy Tequila-ing my friends.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    I just love bacon. I don't limit it to morning.

    I also like (hm-mmmph).. I don't limit that to morning either.

    Totally off-topic, but today is National Margarita Day- Happy Tequila-ing my friends.

    do you hm-mmmph with bacon too????
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    i never eat breakfast, i normally just have coffee for breakfast.. and then wait to eat until lunch. whenever i do eat breakfast like if someone cooks so i feel bad and have to eat it - i always gain weight when i weigh myself the next day.. plus im not even hungry until like 12:00 anyway.. agree with you 100%!

    this is exactly what I am talking about ...real life example of the ills of breakfast!
  • kbeckley11
    kbeckley11 Posts: 203 Member
    I dont think obesity and eating breakfast are directly linked - as in stop eating breakfast and you wont be fat - obviously eating 5 burgers for breakfast is not a good idea - but something sensible like 2 pieces of wholemeal toast with low fat topping or fruit and yogurt or bowl of non sugared cereal is fine.

    Not eating breakfast does lead to concentration lags during the morning and for some people mid morning binges.

    People like diabetics on medication must eat breakfast to avoid hypos.



    I dont think your theory is very sound.

    why not? Everyone says that breakfast is the most "healthiest meal" of the day. But most of the people eating breakfast are obese. You know who is selling that breakfast is the healthiest meal line...the companies that are selling you breakfast - Kellogg's, quaker, etc etc...so OF COURSE they want you to think breakfast is healthy so you will keep buying their crap....

    Ok, first, you said in original post that breakfast is the "most important" meal, now you are saying it is called the "healthiest." Which one is it? They don't mean the same thing.
    Second, you say that 2/3 population are obese, and 44 percent eat breakfast. So that is 66% for obese and 44% for breakfast, guaranteeing ONLY that 10% of the obese population eats breakfast. The other 56% of obese people may or may not be part of the population that eat breakfast. Therefore you can not say that most of the people eating breakfast are obese.