How to target back fat?
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Read this thread in the first instance:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/113609-relatively-light-people-trying-to-get-leaner
Alternatively, if you are already relatively lean (say 17% BF as a woman) then you could try "The Stubborn Body Fat Solution" by Lyle McDonald.
Also, while I don't really like this article a huge amount (intellectually) it may put some of your issues in context:
http://members.rachelcosgrove.com/public/The_Final_Nail_in_the_Cardio_Coffin.cfm
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Well good for you. Now what? You expect a cookie?
Besides being at Tom and Jerry's, Chunky monkey means, "fat d*ck". Urban dictionary is your friend if you're going to interact in places like these. You're welcome.
And Chunky Monkey from what I hear. The Chunky Monkey on your counter and the Chunky Monkey "fat d*ck" that the trainer gave you at 2:03 this evening.I like marmalade.
Excuse me? Where did you get "fat d*ck" from?
Also, there is no Chunky Monkey on my counter.
id love to see you both on Jerry Springer. $100 says Sara will kick the *kitten* out of you.
i think this forum drama is petty and ridiculous. that being said, Sara is highly informative and well versed in the area of health and fitness, and has an educational forum where she selflessly offers her time and advice to others. i'd listen to her...and i do.0 -
Good lord, you misspelled the word, "mis spelling". I really don't care whether you respect me or not. I really don't care whether anyone in this thread respects me. Why would I care about that? I am here to kill time, irritate phucktards like you. Toy with the dingy Sarauk2sf for being a blonde in disguise and have some laughs. Nothing else matters.
Auto correct and mis spelling are two very different things, sweetheart.
The fact that you have a misspelled word as the first word of your sentence has already made me lose interest in reading the rest of what you have to say. "We're" should be "were" However, just to humor you, I did read it. You want to talk about IQ with me and begin THAT sentence with the word, "Nobody?" I really don't give a **** what you think. I don't care whether you want to educate yourself on the topic or not. I really don't care to prove anything to you. Don't believe me. Big whoopty doo! Someone from the Internet who is 25 years old and who doesn't know me doesn't respect me. That "somebody" who starts a sentence with the word, "nobody". It's YOUR problem, not mine.
We're you ever educated on debating skills? It should be common sense but I guess not. When you come with ideas and opinions rather than facts, but attempt to present them as a holistic truth, you're essentially bringing an unloaded gun to a shootout. Nobody respects people who do that. Nobody with an IQ that has 3 digits at least.
YOu will find evidence in the before and after photos and the statements by the doctors and personal trainers and the testimonials. Go to BuffMother.com for a start. She also has a site on Facebook. You can look at the evidence and decide for yourself. I can't help you. You can't believe everything you read. YOu have to do your own research. Ever heard this one, "everything you read on the Internet is true. They can't post anything on the Internet which isn't true. I know this bc I read it on the Internet.". If you want your science, if you want your evidence, you seek it. It isn't about having things handed to you, it is about discovery and deciding for yourself what is true and not true. Do you know what that means?
Since when does book & Internet = evidence? Where's the science? Do you know what that means?
This is the FOURTH time I have posted your evidence. It is in a book and all over the Internet by the name of "Hormonal Timing". You want me to do copy and pastes from websites and the book? Do you know how pointless that would be? Wouldn't you rather Google it and make your own decision. And then you want me to respond about the sexist comments I claim a man said 2 hours ago? Why do I have to explain this to you? Does this have ANYTHING to do with this subject of "back fat?" If my opinion of two men two hours ago was that they said something I took as sexist. Then that is MY business. It really is none of yours. You're only asking, bc you are looking for drama. The men are responsible for what they said. I am responsible for how I took at and you have nothing to do with that.
AT the time I originally wrote this 2 hrs ago, there were two men on here saying sexist things so I told her not to listen to the men. I meant "the two men posting". YOu are very late in coming into the conversation to be commenting on a conversation which occurred hours ago. Second of all, you are 100% incorrect that a female's hormones do not play a part in what type of workout we should be doing and how many calories or carbs we should be eating at certain days of the month. 100% for a fact incorrect. There is a bucket load of information on this. Michele Berger wrote a book on it. It is called, "hormonal timing" If you want to educate yourself on it, then please do so BEFORE saying anything else about something in which you know nothing about. Once you have done your homework IF you care to do your homework I'd love to hear your comments. Otherwise give me evidence that it is exactly the same for men as it is for women regardless of what time of month it is and prove me wrong. Either way, the ball is in your court. I have done extensive research and I don't care what you chose to do from here on out.
I am the original poster of this comment here that said, "don't listen to men" and that "women hold more fat" I also added in the post below that I forgot to mention to LIFT WEIGHTS and suggested it. It just didn't get copied along with this quote. I am a woman too. Yes, lift weights. And yes the basics of lifting are the same. That isn't what i was referring to. I said it is harder for women to lose fat based on the fact that we are women and we have babies. I am only talking about women of childbearing age who have not gone through menopause. We hold onto fat in constant preparation for getting pregnant. I said men don't "get that". I said they lose fat easier. For one they have more muscle, two they don't have bodies which hold onto fat for the event they get pregnant. Again STRENGTH TRAIN. There are a lot of sloppy readers here so quick to post a comment without reading .Don't listen to these men. Hire a FEMALE personal trainer and talk to her. Men don't understand a woman's body. It's not the same. Women's bodies are even designed to hold on to fat in preparation for childbirth. It doesn't know there isn't a famine around the corner. Women even have certain days of the month they should be buffing and certain days of the month they should be boosting. It's based on hormones. Your diet and your workouts should be based on that. How many men can explain that one?
1. Lose more weight.
2. Start strength training
3. If you have a back, chest, arms and shoulders, upper body strength training is probably a good idea.
- FROM A WOMAN.
ETA:
1. What in the HALE is buffing and boosting??
2. OP if you want guidance as to why you haven't lost weight during a year of exercising, you should open your diary, providing that it is accurate.
No one can really comment
^ Another vote for strength training from a woman. The basics are the same for males and females.
Cant help without seeing your diary but I would add:
4. Small calorie deficit
5. Enough protein.
How sexist are you? Men dont understand that women hold more fat? Are you serious? Get a female trainer? WTF?
Yes women hold more fat than men. We also look leaner at higher BF% Win for us.
Changes nothing about how to retain LBM while losing body fat. Exactly the same process for men and women at all times of the month.
What sexist things....please quote them.
How about you providing evidence that we need to train to our 'hormones' to be effective?
You really have an age issue, don't you?
I can't tell if you're 15 and jealous Mummy won't let you drink, or 60 and upset you wasted your life.... Hmm, mysteries are always fun though.
Also, NOBODY here has any respect for your opinions. Maybe time to keep them to yourself.
Are you making inferences about blonds now?0 -
yes please. soft oatmeal raisin0
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You have to ask? You can't figure what you're reading? Has comprehension always been your weak point?
Good lord, you misspelled the word, "mis spelling". I really don't care whether you respect me or not. I really don't care whether anyone in this thread respects me. Why would I care about that? I am here to kill time, irritate phucktards like you. Toy with the dingy Sarauk2sf for being a blonde in disguise and have some laughs. Nothing else matters.
Auto correct and mis spelling are two very different things, sweetheart.
The fact that you have a misspelled word as the first word of your sentence has already made me lose interest in reading the rest of what you have to say. "We're" should be "were" However, just to humor you, I did read it. You want to talk about IQ with me and begin THAT sentence with the word, "Nobody?" I really don't give a **** what you think. I don't care whether you want to educate yourself on the topic or not. I really don't care to prove anything to you. Don't believe me. Big whoopty doo! Someone from the Internet who is 25 years old and who doesn't know me doesn't respect me. That "somebody" who starts a sentence with the word, "nobody". It's YOUR problem, not mine.
We're you ever educated on debating skills? It should be common sense but I guess not. When you come with ideas and opinions rather than facts, but attempt to present them as a holistic truth, you're essentially bringing an unloaded gun to a shootout. Nobody respects people who do that. Nobody with an IQ that has 3 digits at least.
YOu will find evidence in the before and after photos and the statements by the doctors and personal trainers and the testimonials. Go to BuffMother.com for a start. She also has a site on Facebook. You can look at the evidence and decide for yourself. I can't help you. You can't believe everything you read. YOu have to do your own research. Ever heard this one, "everything you read on the Internet is true. They can't post anything on the Internet which isn't true. I know this bc I read it on the Internet.". If you want your science, if you want your evidence, you seek it. It isn't about having things handed to you, it is about discovery and deciding for yourself what is true and not true. Do you know what that means?
Since when does book & Internet = evidence? Where's the science? Do you know what that means?
This is the FOURTH time I have posted your evidence. It is in a book and all over the Internet by the name of "Hormonal Timing". You want me to do copy and pastes from websites and the book? Do you know how pointless that would be? Wouldn't you rather Google it and make your own decision. And then you want me to respond about the sexist comments I claim a man said 2 hours ago? Why do I have to explain this to you? Does this have ANYTHING to do with this subject of "back fat?" If my opinion of two men two hours ago was that they said something I took as sexist. Then that is MY business. It really is none of yours. You're only asking, bc you are looking for drama. The men are responsible for what they said. I am responsible for how I took at and you have nothing to do with that.
AT the time I originally wrote this 2 hrs ago, there were two men on here saying sexist things so I told her not to listen to the men. I meant "the two men posting". YOu are very late in coming into the conversation to be commenting on a conversation which occurred hours ago. Second of all, you are 100% incorrect that a female's hormones do not play a part in what type of workout we should be doing and how many calories or carbs we should be eating at certain days of the month. 100% for a fact incorrect. There is a bucket load of information on this. Michele Berger wrote a book on it. It is called, "hormonal timing" If you want to educate yourself on it, then please do so BEFORE saying anything else about something in which you know nothing about. Once you have done your homework IF you care to do your homework I'd love to hear your comments. Otherwise give me evidence that it is exactly the same for men as it is for women regardless of what time of month it is and prove me wrong. Either way, the ball is in your court. I have done extensive research and I don't care what you chose to do from here on out.
I am the original poster of this comment here that said, "don't listen to men" and that "women hold more fat" I also added in the post below that I forgot to mention to LIFT WEIGHTS and suggested it. It just didn't get copied along with this quote. I am a woman too. Yes, lift weights. And yes the basics of lifting are the same. That isn't what i was referring to. I said it is harder for women to lose fat based on the fact that we are women and we have babies. I am only talking about women of childbearing age who have not gone through menopause. We hold onto fat in constant preparation for getting pregnant. I said men don't "get that". I said they lose fat easier. For one they have more muscle, two they don't have bodies which hold onto fat for the event they get pregnant. Again STRENGTH TRAIN. There are a lot of sloppy readers here so quick to post a comment without reading .Don't listen to these men. Hire a FEMALE personal trainer and talk to her. Men don't understand a woman's body. It's not the same. Women's bodies are even designed to hold on to fat in preparation for childbirth. It doesn't know there isn't a famine around the corner. Women even have certain days of the month they should be buffing and certain days of the month they should be boosting. It's based on hormones. Your diet and your workouts should be based on that. How many men can explain that one?
1. Lose more weight.
2. Start strength training
3. If you have a back, chest, arms and shoulders, upper body strength training is probably a good idea.
- FROM A WOMAN.
ETA:
1. What in the HALE is buffing and boosting??
2. OP if you want guidance as to why you haven't lost weight during a year of exercising, you should open your diary, providing that it is accurate.
No one can really comment
^ Another vote for strength training from a woman. The basics are the same for males and females.
Cant help without seeing your diary but I would add:
4. Small calorie deficit
5. Enough protein.
How sexist are you? Men dont understand that women hold more fat? Are you serious? Get a female trainer? WTF?
Yes women hold more fat than men. We also look leaner at higher BF% Win for us.
Changes nothing about how to retain LBM while losing body fat. Exactly the same process for men and women at all times of the month.
What sexist things....please quote them.
How about you providing evidence that we need to train to our 'hormones' to be effective?
You really have an age issue, don't you? I can't tell if you're 15 and jealous Mummy won't let you drink, or 60 and upset you wasted your life.... Hmm, mysteries are always fun though.
Also, NOBODY here has any respect for your opinions. Maybe time to keep them to yourself.
Are you making inferences about blonds now?0 -
Only if Sara says you can. You must ask first since you are her follower.yes please. soft oatmeal raisin0 -
You have to ask? You can't figure what you're reading? Has comprehension always been your weak point?
Good lord, you misspelled the word, "mis spelling". I really don't care whether you respect me or not. I really don't care whether anyone in this thread respects me. Why would I care about that? I am here to kill time, irritate phucktards like you. Toy with the dingy Sarauk2sf for being a blonde in disguise and have some laughs. Nothing else matters.
Auto correct and mis spelling are two very different things, sweetheart.
The fact that you have a misspelled word as the first word of your sentence has already made me lose interest in reading the rest of what you have to say. "We're" should be "were" However, just to humor you, I did read it. You want to talk about IQ with me and begin THAT sentence with the word, "Nobody?" I really don't give a **** what you think. I don't care whether you want to educate yourself on the topic or not. I really don't care to prove anything to you. Don't believe me. Big whoopty doo! Someone from the Internet who is 25 years old and who doesn't know me doesn't respect me. That "somebody" who starts a sentence with the word, "nobody". It's YOUR problem, not mine.
We're you ever educated on debating skills? It should be common sense but I guess not. When you come with ideas and opinions rather than facts, but attempt to present them as a holistic truth, you're essentially bringing an unloaded gun to a shootout. Nobody respects people who do that. Nobody with an IQ that has 3 digits at least.
YOu will find evidence in the before and after photos and the statements by the doctors and personal trainers and the testimonials. Go to BuffMother.com for a start. She also has a site on Facebook. You can look at the evidence and decide for yourself. I can't help you. You can't believe everything you read. YOu have to do your own research. Ever heard this one, "everything you read on the Internet is true. They can't post anything on the Internet which isn't true. I know this bc I read it on the Internet.". If you want your science, if you want your evidence, you seek it. It isn't about having things handed to you, it is about discovery and deciding for yourself what is true and not true. Do you know what that means?
Since when does book & Internet = evidence? Where's the science? Do you know what that means?
This is the FOURTH time I have posted your evidence. It is in a book and all over the Internet by the name of "Hormonal Timing". You want me to do copy and pastes from websites and the book? Do you know how pointless that would be? Wouldn't you rather Google it and make your own decision. And then you want me to respond about the sexist comments I claim a man said 2 hours ago? Why do I have to explain this to you? Does this have ANYTHING to do with this subject of "back fat?" If my opinion of two men two hours ago was that they said something I took as sexist. Then that is MY business. It really is none of yours. You're only asking, bc you are looking for drama. The men are responsible for what they said. I am responsible for how I took at and you have nothing to do with that.
AT the time I originally wrote this 2 hrs ago, there were two men on here saying sexist things so I told her not to listen to the men. I meant "the two men posting". YOu are very late in coming into the conversation to be commenting on a conversation which occurred hours ago. Second of all, you are 100% incorrect that a female's hormones do not play a part in what type of workout we should be doing and how many calories or carbs we should be eating at certain days of the month. 100% for a fact incorrect. There is a bucket load of information on this. Michele Berger wrote a book on it. It is called, "hormonal timing" If you want to educate yourself on it, then please do so BEFORE saying anything else about something in which you know nothing about. Once you have done your homework IF you care to do your homework I'd love to hear your comments. Otherwise give me evidence that it is exactly the same for men as it is for women regardless of what time of month it is and prove me wrong. Either way, the ball is in your court. I have done extensive research and I don't care what you chose to do from here on out.
I am the original poster of this comment here that said, "don't listen to men" and that "women hold more fat" I also added in the post below that I forgot to mention to LIFT WEIGHTS and suggested it. It just didn't get copied along with this quote. I am a woman too. Yes, lift weights. And yes the basics of lifting are the same. That isn't what i was referring to. I said it is harder for women to lose fat based on the fact that we are women and we have babies. I am only talking about women of childbearing age who have not gone through menopause. We hold onto fat in constant preparation for getting pregnant. I said men don't "get that". I said they lose fat easier. For one they have more muscle, two they don't have bodies which hold onto fat for the event they get pregnant. Again STRENGTH TRAIN. There are a lot of sloppy readers here so quick to post a comment without reading .Don't listen to these men. Hire a FEMALE personal trainer and talk to her. Men don't understand a woman's body. It's not the same. Women's bodies are even designed to hold on to fat in preparation for childbirth. It doesn't know there isn't a famine around the corner. Women even have certain days of the month they should be buffing and certain days of the month they should be boosting. It's based on hormones. Your diet and your workouts should be based on that. How many men can explain that one?
1. Lose more weight.
2. Start strength training
3. If you have a back, chest, arms and shoulders, upper body strength training is probably a good idea.
- FROM A WOMAN.
ETA:
1. What in the HALE is buffing and boosting??
2. OP if you want guidance as to why you haven't lost weight during a year of exercising, you should open your diary, providing that it is accurate.
No one can really comment
^ Another vote for strength training from a woman. The basics are the same for males and females.
Cant help without seeing your diary but I would add:
4. Small calorie deficit
5. Enough protein.
How sexist are you? Men dont understand that women hold more fat? Are you serious? Get a female trainer? WTF?
Yes women hold more fat than men. We also look leaner at higher BF% Win for us.
Changes nothing about how to retain LBM while losing body fat. Exactly the same process for men and women at all times of the month.
What sexist things....please quote them.
How about you providing evidence that we need to train to our 'hormones' to be effective?
You really have an age issue, don't you? I can't tell if you're 15 and jealous Mummy won't let you drink, or 60 and upset you wasted your life.... Hmm, mysteries are always fun though.
Also, NOBODY here has any respect for your opinions. Maybe time to keep them to yourself.
Are you making inferences about blonds now?
No, I was just wondering how many groups of people you were going to insult in this thread, that's all.0 -
Why am I not surprised you actually WATCH Jerry Springer?
Besides being at Tom and Jerry's, Chunky monkey means, "fat d*ck". Urban dictionary is your friend if you're going to interact in places like these. You're welcome.
And Chunky Monkey from what I hear. The Chunky Monkey on your counter and the Chunky Monkey "fat d*ck" that the trainer gave you at 2:03 this evening.I like marmalade.
Excuse me? Where did you get "fat d*ck" from?
Also, there is no Chunky Monkey on my counter.
id love to see you both on Jerry Springer. $100 says Sara will kick the *kitten* out of you.
i think this forum drama is petty and ridiculous. that being said, Sara is highly informative and well versed in the area of health and fitness, and has an educational forum where she selflessly offers her time and advice to others. i'd listen to her...and i do.0 -
Only if Sara says you can. You must ask first since you are her follower.yes please. soft oatmeal raisin
Sara, can i have a cookie? 0 -
Is there really any need to edit every post to be just that little extra bit snarky after you already post it? A wise man doesn't hit 'post reply' until they're happy with what they see. It's almost humourous how many times I've seen Edited by D_O_U_C_H_E0
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Gee, and I wonder which category I fit into, because I fit one of them which you "look at as insulting". I am only responsible for that which I say, and not for HOW you interpret it.
You have to ask? You can't figure what you're reading? Has comprehension always been your weak point?
Good lord, you misspelled the word, "mis spelling". I really don't care whether you respect me or not. I really don't care whether anyone in this thread respects me. Why would I care about that? I am here to kill time, irritate phucktards like you. Toy with the dingy Sarauk2sf for being a blonde in disguise and have some laughs. Nothing else matters.
Auto correct and mis spelling are two very different things, sweetheart.
The fact that you have a misspelled word as the first word of your sentence has already made me lose interest in reading the rest of what you have to say. "We're" should be "were" However, just to humor you, I did read it. You want to talk about IQ with me and begin THAT sentence with the word, "Nobody?" I really don't give a **** what you think. I don't care whether you want to educate yourself on the topic or not. I really don't care to prove anything to you. Don't believe me. Big whoopty doo! Someone from the Internet who is 25 years old and who doesn't know me doesn't respect me. That "somebody" who starts a sentence with the word, "nobody". It's YOUR problem, not mine.
We're you ever educated on debating skills? It should be common sense but I guess not. When you come with ideas and opinions rather than facts, but attempt to present them as a holistic truth, you're essentially bringing an unloaded gun to a shootout. Nobody respects people who do that. Nobody with an IQ that has 3 digits at least.
YOu will find evidence in the before and after photos and the statements by the doctors and personal trainers and the testimonials. Go to BuffMother.com for a start. She also has a site on Facebook. You can look at the evidence and decide for yourself. I can't help you. You can't believe everything you read. YOu have to do your own research. Ever heard this one, "everything you read on the Internet is true. They can't post anything on the Internet which isn't true. I know this bc I read it on the Internet.". If you want your science, if you want your evidence, you seek it. It isn't about having things handed to you, it is about discovery and deciding for yourself what is true and not true. Do you know what that means?
Since when does book & Internet = evidence? Where's the science? Do you know what that means?
This is the FOURTH time I have posted your evidence. It is in a book and all over the Internet by the name of "Hormonal Timing". You want me to do copy and pastes from websites and the book? Do you know how pointless that would be? Wouldn't you rather Google it and make your own decision. And then you want me to respond about the sexist comments I claim a man said 2 hours ago? Why do I have to explain this to you? Does this have ANYTHING to do with this subject of "back fat?" If my opinion of two men two hours ago was that they said something I took as sexist. Then that is MY business. It really is none of yours. You're only asking, bc you are looking for drama. The men are responsible for what they said. I am responsible for how I took at and you have nothing to do with that.
AT the time I originally wrote this 2 hrs ago, there were two men on here saying sexist things so I told her not to listen to the men. I meant "the two men posting". YOu are very late in coming into the conversation to be commenting on a conversation which occurred hours ago. Second of all, you are 100% incorrect that a female's hormones do not play a part in what type of workout we should be doing and how many calories or carbs we should be eating at certain days of the month. 100% for a fact incorrect. There is a bucket load of information on this. Michele Berger wrote a book on it. It is called, "hormonal timing" If you want to educate yourself on it, then please do so BEFORE saying anything else about something in which you know nothing about. Once you have done your homework IF you care to do your homework I'd love to hear your comments. Otherwise give me evidence that it is exactly the same for men as it is for women regardless of what time of month it is and prove me wrong. Either way, the ball is in your court. I have done extensive research and I don't care what you chose to do from here on out.
I am the original poster of this comment here that said, "don't listen to men" and that "women hold more fat" I also added in the post below that I forgot to mention to LIFT WEIGHTS and suggested it. It just didn't get copied along with this quote. I am a woman too. Yes, lift weights. And yes the basics of lifting are the same. That isn't what i was referring to. I said it is harder for women to lose fat based on the fact that we are women and we have babies. I am only talking about women of childbearing age who have not gone through menopause. We hold onto fat in constant preparation for getting pregnant. I said men don't "get that". I said they lose fat easier. For one they have more muscle, two they don't have bodies which hold onto fat for the event they get pregnant. Again STRENGTH TRAIN. There are a lot of sloppy readers here so quick to post a comment without reading .Don't listen to these men. Hire a FEMALE personal trainer and talk to her. Men don't understand a woman's body. It's not the same. Women's bodies are even designed to hold on to fat in preparation for childbirth. It doesn't know there isn't a famine around the corner. Women even have certain days of the month they should be buffing and certain days of the month they should be boosting. It's based on hormones. Your diet and your workouts should be based on that. How many men can explain that one?
1. Lose more weight.
2. Start strength training
3. If you have a back, chest, arms and shoulders, upper body strength training is probably a good idea.
- FROM A WOMAN.
ETA:
1. What in the HALE is buffing and boosting??
2. OP if you want guidance as to why you haven't lost weight during a year of exercising, you should open your diary, providing that it is accurate.
No one can really comment
^ Another vote for strength training from a woman. The basics are the same for males and females.
Cant help without seeing your diary but I would add:
4. Small calorie deficit
5. Enough protein.
How sexist are you? Men dont understand that women hold more fat? Are you serious? Get a female trainer? WTF?
Yes women hold more fat than men. We also look leaner at higher BF% Win for us.
Changes nothing about how to retain LBM while losing body fat. Exactly the same process for men and women at all times of the month.
What sexist things....please quote them.
How about you providing evidence that we need to train to our 'hormones' to be effective?
You really have an age issue, don't you? I can't tell if you're 15 and jealous Mummy won't let you drink, or 60 and upset you wasted your life.... Hmm, mysteries are always fun though.
Also, NOBODY here has any respect for your opinions. Maybe time to keep them to yourself.
Are you making inferences about blonds now?
No, I was just wondering how many groups of people you were going to insult in this thread, that's all.0 -
i can see why this forum lasted so long. you are entertaining as hell0
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It was in another thread where she said that all orange peels are tainted with chemicals, but she eats them anyway. Her words.
LMAO! Now she ADMINTS she eats dried orange peels. This story changes every time I hear it. Or rather read it.
I eat dried orange peels...but the chemical composition with the ingredients you couldn't pronounce was based solely on an orange and an orange peel
I can find your comment if necessary.
LMAO! Don't mind her. She eats orange peels which as been tainted with chemicals which cannot be pronounced. And this came from her mouth, not mine.I must think they do Not know anything ....this reads as - they don't know anything
I forget sarcasm is hard to read online.
Even if it says "I MUST not think they know what they are doing."
It's okay, I can do a Sesame Street song if needed next time.
No it didn't. Nice try. I gave you the chemical composition of oranges and orange peels...period. Nothing added or tainted
Did she say she did not eat orange peel or did she say that she did not eat orange peel tainted with chemicals?
Wrong - She listed the chemical composition of a natural orange, she never said they were tainted - you made that assumption.0 -
Really? Wrong! Learn your oranges sister.
It was in another thread where she said that all orange peels are tainted with chemicals, but she eats them anyway. Her words.
LMAO! Now she ADMINTS she eats dried orange peels. This story changes every time I hear it. Or rather read it.
I eat dried orange peels...but the chemical composition with the ingredients you couldn't pronounce was based solely on an orange and an orange peel
I can find your comment if necessary.
LMAO! Don't mind her. She eats orange peels which as been tainted with chemicals which cannot be pronounced. And this came from her mouth, not mine.I must think they do Not know anything ....this reads as - they don't know anything
I forget sarcasm is hard to read online.
Even if it says "I MUST not think they know what they are doing."
It's okay, I can do a Sesame Street song if needed next time.
No it didn't. Nice try. I gave you the chemical composition of oranges and orange peels...period. Nothing added or tainted
Did she say she did not eat orange peel or did she say that she did not eat orange peel tainted with chemicals?
Wrong - She listed the chemical composition of a natural orange, she never said they were tainted - you made that assumption.0 -
You have to ask? You can't figure what you're reading? Has comprehension always been your weak point?
Good lord, you misspelled the word, "mis spelling". I really don't care whether you respect me or not. I really don't care whether anyone in this thread respects me. Why would I care about that? I am here to kill time, irritate phucktards like you. Toy with the dingy Sarauk2sf for being a blonde in disguise and have some laughs. Nothing else matters.
Auto correct and mis spelling are two very different things, sweetheart.
The fact that you have a misspelled word as the first word of your sentence has already made me lose interest in reading the rest of what you have to say. "We're" should be "were" However, just to humor you, I did read it. You want to talk about IQ with me and begin THAT sentence with the word, "Nobody?" I really don't give a **** what you think. I don't care whether you want to educate yourself on the topic or not. I really don't care to prove anything to you. Don't believe me. Big whoopty doo! Someone from the Internet who is 25 years old and who doesn't know me doesn't respect me. That "somebody" who starts a sentence with the word, "nobody". It's YOUR problem, not mine.
We're you ever educated on debating skills? It should be common sense but I guess not. When you come with ideas and opinions rather than facts, but attempt to present them as a holistic truth, you're essentially bringing an unloaded gun to a shootout. Nobody respects people who do that. Nobody with an IQ that has 3 digits at least.
YOu will find evidence in the before and after photos and the statements by the doctors and personal trainers and the testimonials. Go to BuffMother.com for a start. She also has a site on Facebook. You can look at the evidence and decide for yourself. I can't help you. You can't believe everything you read. YOu have to do your own research. Ever heard this one, "everything you read on the Internet is true. They can't post anything on the Internet which isn't true. I know this bc I read it on the Internet.". If you want your science, if you want your evidence, you seek it. It isn't about having things handed to you, it is about discovery and deciding for yourself what is true and not true. Do you know what that means?
Since when does book & Internet = evidence? Where's the science? Do you know what that means?
This is the FOURTH time I have posted your evidence. It is in a book and all over the Internet by the name of "Hormonal Timing". You want me to do copy and pastes from websites and the book? Do you know how pointless that would be? Wouldn't you rather Google it and make your own decision. And then you want me to respond about the sexist comments I claim a man said 2 hours ago? Why do I have to explain this to you? Does this have ANYTHING to do with this subject of "back fat?" If my opinion of two men two hours ago was that they said something I took as sexist. Then that is MY business. It really is none of yours. You're only asking, bc you are looking for drama. The men are responsible for what they said. I am responsible for how I took at and you have nothing to do with that.
AT the time I originally wrote this 2 hrs ago, there were two men on here saying sexist things so I told her not to listen to the men. I meant "the two men posting". YOu are very late in coming into the conversation to be commenting on a conversation which occurred hours ago. Second of all, you are 100% incorrect that a female's hormones do not play a part in what type of workout we should be doing and how many calories or carbs we should be eating at certain days of the month. 100% for a fact incorrect. There is a bucket load of information on this. Michele Berger wrote a book on it. It is called, "hormonal timing" If you want to educate yourself on it, then please do so BEFORE saying anything else about something in which you know nothing about. Once you have done your homework IF you care to do your homework I'd love to hear your comments. Otherwise give me evidence that it is exactly the same for men as it is for women regardless of what time of month it is and prove me wrong. Either way, the ball is in your court. I have done extensive research and I don't care what you chose to do from here on out.
I am the original poster of this comment here that said, "don't listen to men" and that "women hold more fat" I also added in the post below that I forgot to mention to LIFT WEIGHTS and suggested it. It just didn't get copied along with this quote. I am a woman too. Yes, lift weights. And yes the basics of lifting are the same. That isn't what i was referring to. I said it is harder for women to lose fat based on the fact that we are women and we have babies. I am only talking about women of childbearing age who have not gone through menopause. We hold onto fat in constant preparation for getting pregnant. I said men don't "get that". I said they lose fat easier. For one they have more muscle, two they don't have bodies which hold onto fat for the event they get pregnant. Again STRENGTH TRAIN. There are a lot of sloppy readers here so quick to post a comment without reading .Don't listen to these men. Hire a FEMALE personal trainer and talk to her. Men don't understand a woman's body. It's not the same. Women's bodies are even designed to hold on to fat in preparation for childbirth. It doesn't know there isn't a famine around the corner. Women even have certain days of the month they should be buffing and certain days of the month they should be boosting. It's based on hormones. Your diet and your workouts should be based on that. How many men can explain that one?
1. Lose more weight.
2. Start strength training
3. If you have a back, chest, arms and shoulders, upper body strength training is probably a good idea.
- FROM A WOMAN.
ETA:
1. What in the HALE is buffing and boosting??
2. OP if you want guidance as to why you haven't lost weight during a year of exercising, you should open your diary, providing that it is accurate.
No one can really comment
^ Another vote for strength training from a woman. The basics are the same for males and females.
Cant help without seeing your diary but I would add:
4. Small calorie deficit
5. Enough protein.
How sexist are you? Men dont understand that women hold more fat? Are you serious? Get a female trainer? WTF?
Yes women hold more fat than men. We also look leaner at higher BF% Win for us.
Changes nothing about how to retain LBM while losing body fat. Exactly the same process for men and women at all times of the month.
What sexist things....please quote them.
How about you providing evidence that we need to train to our 'hormones' to be effective?
You really have an age issue, don't you? I can't tell if you're 15 and jealous Mummy won't let you drink, or 60 and upset you wasted your life.... Hmm, mysteries are always fun though.
Also, NOBODY here has any respect for your opinions. Maybe time to keep them to yourself.
Are you making inferences about blonds now?
No, I was just wondering how many groups of people you were going to insult in this thread, that's all.
Pretty sure all that's left are Jewish people.0 -
I know.i can see why this forum lasted so long. you are entertaining as hell0 -
Gee, and I wonder which category I fit into, because I fit one of them which you "look at as insulting". I am only responsible for that which I say, and not for HOW you interpret it.
You have to ask? You can't figure what you're reading? Has comprehension always been your weak point?
Good lord, you misspelled the word, "mis spelling". I really don't care whether you respect me or not. I really don't care whether anyone in this thread respects me. Why would I care about that? I am here to kill time, irritate phucktards like you. Toy with the dingy Sarauk2sf for being a blonde in disguise and have some laughs. Nothing else matters.
Auto correct and mis spelling are two very different things, sweetheart.
The fact that you have a misspelled word as the first word of your sentence has already made me lose interest in reading the rest of what you have to say. "We're" should be "were" However, just to humor you, I did read it. You want to talk about IQ with me and begin THAT sentence with the word, "Nobody?" I really don't give a **** what you think. I don't care whether you want to educate yourself on the topic or not. I really don't care to prove anything to you. Don't believe me. Big whoopty doo! Someone from the Internet who is 25 years old and who doesn't know me doesn't respect me. That "somebody" who starts a sentence with the word, "nobody". It's YOUR problem, not mine.
We're you ever educated on debating skills? It should be common sense but I guess not. When you come with ideas and opinions rather than facts, but attempt to present them as a holistic truth, you're essentially bringing an unloaded gun to a shootout. Nobody respects people who do that. Nobody with an IQ that has 3 digits at least.
YOu will find evidence in the before and after photos and the statements by the doctors and personal trainers and the testimonials. Go to BuffMother.com for a start. She also has a site on Facebook. You can look at the evidence and decide for yourself. I can't help you. You can't believe everything you read. YOu have to do your own research. Ever heard this one, "everything you read on the Internet is true. They can't post anything on the Internet which isn't true. I know this bc I read it on the Internet.". If you want your science, if you want your evidence, you seek it. It isn't about having things handed to you, it is about discovery and deciding for yourself what is true and not true. Do you know what that means?
Since when does book & Internet = evidence? Where's the science? Do you know what that means?
This is the FOURTH time I have posted your evidence. It is in a book and all over the Internet by the name of "Hormonal Timing". You want me to do copy and pastes from websites and the book? Do you know how pointless that would be? Wouldn't you rather Google it and make your own decision. And then you want me to respond about the sexist comments I claim a man said 2 hours ago? Why do I have to explain this to you? Does this have ANYTHING to do with this subject of "back fat?" If my opinion of two men two hours ago was that they said something I took as sexist. Then that is MY business. It really is none of yours. You're only asking, bc you are looking for drama. The men are responsible for what they said. I am responsible for how I took at and you have nothing to do with that.
AT the time I originally wrote this 2 hrs ago, there were two men on here saying sexist things so I told her not to listen to the men. I meant "the two men posting". YOu are very late in coming into the conversation to be commenting on a conversation which occurred hours ago. Second of all, you are 100% incorrect that a female's hormones do not play a part in what type of workout we should be doing and how many calories or carbs we should be eating at certain days of the month. 100% for a fact incorrect. There is a bucket load of information on this. Michele Berger wrote a book on it. It is called, "hormonal timing" If you want to educate yourself on it, then please do so BEFORE saying anything else about something in which you know nothing about. Once you have done your homework IF you care to do your homework I'd love to hear your comments. Otherwise give me evidence that it is exactly the same for men as it is for women regardless of what time of month it is and prove me wrong. Either way, the ball is in your court. I have done extensive research and I don't care what you chose to do from here on out.
I am the original poster of this comment here that said, "don't listen to men" and that "women hold more fat" I also added in the post below that I forgot to mention to LIFT WEIGHTS and suggested it. It just didn't get copied along with this quote. I am a woman too. Yes, lift weights. And yes the basics of lifting are the same. That isn't what i was referring to. I said it is harder for women to lose fat based on the fact that we are women and we have babies. I am only talking about women of childbearing age who have not gone through menopause. We hold onto fat in constant preparation for getting pregnant. I said men don't "get that". I said they lose fat easier. For one they have more muscle, two they don't have bodies which hold onto fat for the event they get pregnant. Again STRENGTH TRAIN. There are a lot of sloppy readers here so quick to post a comment without reading .Don't listen to these men. Hire a FEMALE personal trainer and talk to her. Men don't understand a woman's body. It's not the same. Women's bodies are even designed to hold on to fat in preparation for childbirth. It doesn't know there isn't a famine around the corner. Women even have certain days of the month they should be buffing and certain days of the month they should be boosting. It's based on hormones. Your diet and your workouts should be based on that. How many men can explain that one?
1. Lose more weight.
2. Start strength training
3. If you have a back, chest, arms and shoulders, upper body strength training is probably a good idea.
- FROM A WOMAN.
ETA:
1. What in the HALE is buffing and boosting??
2. OP if you want guidance as to why you haven't lost weight during a year of exercising, you should open your diary, providing that it is accurate.
No one can really comment
^ Another vote for strength training from a woman. The basics are the same for males and females.
Cant help without seeing your diary but I would add:
4. Small calorie deficit
5. Enough protein.
How sexist are you? Men dont understand that women hold more fat? Are you serious? Get a female trainer? WTF?
Yes women hold more fat than men. We also look leaner at higher BF% Win for us.
Changes nothing about how to retain LBM while losing body fat. Exactly the same process for men and women at all times of the month.
What sexist things....please quote them.
How about you providing evidence that we need to train to our 'hormones' to be effective?
You really have an age issue, don't you? I can't tell if you're 15 and jealous Mummy won't let you drink, or 60 and upset you wasted your life.... Hmm, mysteries are always fun though.
Also, NOBODY here has any respect for your opinions. Maybe time to keep them to yourself.
Are you making inferences about blonds now?
No, I was just wondering how many groups of people you were going to insult in this thread, that's all.
So, how should I interpret it?0 -
Lets try this again since you have a problem with comprehension. I FIT somewhere in which I made reference to an appearance. Don't you wonder WHICH one I fit with? Who ever said anything about the Jewish religion? BTW, there are many other groups of people other than four int he world. There are old, there are young ,there are heavy, there are mentally challenged, there are hispanic, there are tall, there are short, there are dwarfs, there are red heads, . . .do I really need to explain this to you? It could take all night.
You have to ask? You can't figure what you're reading? Has comprehension always been your weak point?
Good lord, you misspelled the word, "mis spelling". I really don't care whether you respect me or not. I really don't care whether anyone in this thread respects me. Why would I care about that? I am here to kill time, irritate phucktards like you. Toy with the dingy Sarauk2sf for being a blonde in disguise and have some laughs. Nothing else matters.
Auto correct and mis spelling are two very different things, sweetheart.
The fact that you have a misspelled word as the first word of your sentence has already made me lose interest in reading the rest of what you have to say. "We're" should be "were" However, just to humor you, I did read it. You want to talk about IQ with me and begin THAT sentence with the word, "Nobody?" I really don't give a **** what you think. I don't care whether you want to educate yourself on the topic or not. I really don't care to prove anything to you. Don't believe me. Big whoopty doo! Someone from the Internet who is 25 years old and who doesn't know me doesn't respect me. That "somebody" who starts a sentence with the word, "nobody". It's YOUR problem, not mine.
We're you ever educated on debating skills? It should be common sense but I guess not. When you come with ideas and opinions rather than facts, but attempt to present them as a holistic truth, you're essentially bringing an unloaded gun to a shootout. Nobody respects people who do that. Nobody with an IQ that has 3 digits at least.
YOu will find evidence in the before and after photos and the statements by the doctors and personal trainers and the testimonials. Go to BuffMother.com for a start. She also has a site on Facebook. You can look at the evidence and decide for yourself. I can't help you. You can't believe everything you read. YOu have to do your own research. Ever heard this one, "everything you read on the Internet is true. They can't post anything on the Internet which isn't true. I know this bc I read it on the Internet.". If you want your science, if you want your evidence, you seek it. It isn't about having things handed to you, it is about discovery and deciding for yourself what is true and not true. Do you know what that means?
Since when does book & Internet = evidence? Where's the science? Do you know what that means?
This is the FOURTH time I have posted your evidence. It is in a book and all over the Internet by the name of "Hormonal Timing". You want me to do copy and pastes from websites and the book? Do you know how pointless that would be? Wouldn't you rather Google it and make your own decision. And then you want me to respond about the sexist comments I claim a man said 2 hours ago? Why do I have to explain this to you? Does this have ANYTHING to do with this subject of "back fat?" If my opinion of two men two hours ago was that they said something I took as sexist. Then that is MY business. It really is none of yours. You're only asking, bc you are looking for drama. The men are responsible for what they said. I am responsible for how I took at and you have nothing to do with that.
AT the time I originally wrote this 2 hrs ago, there were two men on here saying sexist things so I told her not to listen to the men. I meant "the two men posting". YOu are very late in coming into the conversation to be commenting on a conversation which occurred hours ago. Second of all, you are 100% incorrect that a female's hormones do not play a part in what type of workout we should be doing and how many calories or carbs we should be eating at certain days of the month. 100% for a fact incorrect. There is a bucket load of information on this. Michele Berger wrote a book on it. It is called, "hormonal timing" If you want to educate yourself on it, then please do so BEFORE saying anything else about something in which you know nothing about. Once you have done your homework IF you care to do your homework I'd love to hear your comments. Otherwise give me evidence that it is exactly the same for men as it is for women regardless of what time of month it is and prove me wrong. Either way, the ball is in your court. I have done extensive research and I don't care what you chose to do from here on out.
I am the original poster of this comment here that said, "don't listen to men" and that "women hold more fat" I also added in the post below that I forgot to mention to LIFT WEIGHTS and suggested it. It just didn't get copied along with this quote. I am a woman too. Yes, lift weights. And yes the basics of lifting are the same. That isn't what i was referring to. I said it is harder for women to lose fat based on the fact that we are women and we have babies. I am only talking about women of childbearing age who have not gone through menopause. We hold onto fat in constant preparation for getting pregnant. I said men don't "get that". I said they lose fat easier. For one they have more muscle, two they don't have bodies which hold onto fat for the event they get pregnant. Again STRENGTH TRAIN. There are a lot of sloppy readers here so quick to post a comment without reading .Don't listen to these men. Hire a FEMALE personal trainer and talk to her. Men don't understand a woman's body. It's not the same. Women's bodies are even designed to hold on to fat in preparation for childbirth. It doesn't know there isn't a famine around the corner. Women even have certain days of the month they should be buffing and certain days of the month they should be boosting. It's based on hormones. Your diet and your workouts should be based on that. How many men can explain that one?
1. Lose more weight.
2. Start strength training
3. If you have a back, chest, arms and shoulders, upper body strength training is probably a good idea.
- FROM A WOMAN.
ETA:
1. What in the HALE is buffing and boosting??
2. OP if you want guidance as to why you haven't lost weight during a year of exercising, you should open your diary, providing that it is accurate.
No one can really comment
^ Another vote for strength training from a woman. The basics are the same for males and females.
Cant help without seeing your diary but I would add:
4. Small calorie deficit
5. Enough protein.
How sexist are you? Men dont understand that women hold more fat? Are you serious? Get a female trainer? WTF?
Yes women hold more fat than men. We also look leaner at higher BF% Win for us.
Changes nothing about how to retain LBM while losing body fat. Exactly the same process for men and women at all times of the month.
What sexist things....please quote them.
How about you providing evidence that we need to train to our 'hormones' to be effective?
You really have an age issue, don't you? I can't tell if you're 15 and jealous Mummy won't let you drink, or 60 and upset you wasted your life.... Hmm, mysteries are always fun though.
Also, NOBODY here has any respect for your opinions. Maybe time to keep them to yourself.
Are you making inferences about blonds now?
No, I was just wondering how many groups of people you were going to insult in this thread, that's all.
Pretty sure all that's left are Jewish people.0 -
Only if Sara says you can. You must ask first since you are her follower.yes please. soft oatmeal raisin
Whoa. Why are you bashing Sara? I must've missed something (or a lot of things) in this thread...Sara rocks...period the end. She's got a bunch of followers because she selflessly offers her time and knowledge to help those who don't have a clue (and those who might have one but are hesitant for whatever reason). I have the utmost respect for that woman and would you believe, I'm not even friends with her on here? Step down girl...no reason to play these games. For real. This has gotten really low. (And so what if she is/was blonde...really?!?)0 -
if youve been doing everything right in the food/exercise department maybe you gotta just accept it, it really can not be that bad0
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