how do people feel about aspartame?
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I love it! Especially in diet coke. I wish I'd drank diet coke last night, actually, instead of the beer and wine.0
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Doesn't it bother anyone that almost every manufacturer study says aspartame is completely safe, while almost every independent study say it is not?
It's clear American health is going down hill. Is it aspartame? MSG? Propylene glycol?
No one knows for sure, but it's obviously something in our diets now.0 -
I'm struggling to get my sugar macro under control and the lure of artificial sweeteners is a siren call but I avoid aspartame (Equal, Nutrasweet) and other artificial sweeteners whenever possible as it triggers nasty headaches and leaves a weird taste in my mouth. Even something as small as a tiny mint will do it to me. I don't think I suffer from PKU or that aspartame will kill me, but as I've been progressing towards eating cleaner, I seem to have developed some sort of sensitivity to it amongst other things.
So what are my alternatives? In general, I eat fruit when I crave something sweet or very small bits of dark chocolate.0 -
I think it tastes absolutely scrumptious.0
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I'm having a cup of coffee with Splenda right now - right after I took my multi-vitamin tablet. :bigsmile:I think it tastes absolutely scrumptious.0 -
Doesn't it bother anyone that almost every manufacturer study says aspartame is completely safe, while almost every independent study say it is not?
It's clear American health is going down hill. Is it aspartame? MSG? Propylene glycol?
No one knows for sure, but it's obviously something in our diets now.
They use Propylene glycol to defrost planes.0 -
So say someone is obese and lacking in vitamins and you suggest they get them from food sources, and those food sources they need them from put them calorie surplus each day. Would that still be your suggestion or would vitamins from a bottle be better? This it NOT an unusual case BTW. Happens in VLCD all the time.When I need to take vitamins (which is rare) I that ones that come from food sources and not a lab.
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Considering your qualifications, from one professional to another.....do you not consider the health of your clients to be more important? Any obese client should be focusing their diet on nutritionally dense foods, including vegetables etc.. and this certainly wouldn't be difficult on VLCD either.0 -
It caused my daughter and I massive headaches. My husband nearly died from aspartame toxicity. So no it is not safe.
Splenda is not better either.
Why aspartame? a chemical processed additive instead of natural organic sugar? It's a no brainer either over load your liver with toxins or give it a higher calories food which it knows how to process.0 -
I have no concerns over aspartame for myself.
I have no concerns over other people using aspartame provided that they don't have any personal aversion to it and they don't have PKU (inability to metabolize phenylalanine).
Aspartame immediately breaks down into aspartic acid and phenylalanine and neither of these are harmful, and both of these items are found in regular food sources.
Now if I happened to get my information from documentaries instead of actual research, I would probably fear aspartame. That comment is not directed at you.
^^ saved me a lot of typing ^^0 -
DELICIOUS!0
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I prefer Stevia right now. I say right now because as more information comes in about "sugar" replacements, I can have my mind changed. Aspartame has never had any ill effects on me but sacharin gave me severe stomach pains so I stopped that one altogether.
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It caused my daughter and I massive headaches. My husband nearly died from aspartame toxicity. So no it is not safe.
Splenda is not better either.
Why aspartame? a chemical processed additive instead of natural organic sugar? It's a no brainer either over load your liver with toxins or give it a higher calories food which it knows how to process.
The body processes it just fine. It's broken down into phenylalanine and aspartic acid, these are two amino acids found in everyday food items.
Methanol is a digestive byproduct of aspartame and methanol is broken down in the liver by alcohol dehydrogenase. It breaks down into formaldehyde which is either used or converted to formic acid and excreted in the urine.
Your body knows exactly how to metabolize it unless you've got PKU in which case the phenylalanine will present problems.0 -
And once again, science trumps hysteria.It caused my daughter and I massive headaches. My husband nearly died from aspartame toxicity. So no it is not safe.
Splenda is not better either.
Why aspartame? a chemical processed additive instead of natural organic sugar? It's a no brainer either over load your liver with toxins or give it a higher calories food which it knows how to process.
The body processes it just fine. It's broken down into phenylalanine and aspartic acid, these are two amino acids found in everyday food items.
Methanol is a digestive byproduct of aspartame and methanol is broken down in the liver by alcohol dehydrogenase. It breaks down into formaldehyde which is either used or converted to formic acid and excreted in the urine.
Your body knows exactly how to metabolize it unless you've got PKU in which case the phenylalanine will present problems.0 -
And once again, science trumps hysteria.It caused my daughter and I massive headaches. My husband nearly died from aspartame toxicity. So no it is not safe.
Splenda is not better either.
Why aspartame? a chemical processed additive instead of natural organic sugar? It's a no brainer either over load your liver with toxins or give it a higher calories food which it knows how to process.
The body processes it just fine. It's broken down into phenylalanine and aspartic acid, these are two amino acids found in everyday food items.
Methanol is a digestive byproduct of aspartame and methanol is broken down in the liver by alcohol dehydrogenase. It breaks down into formaldehyde which is either used or converted to formic acid and excreted in the urine.
Your body knows exactly how to metabolize it unless you've got PKU in which case the phenylalanine will present problems.
Or that food politics reigns once again.0 -
I have seen nothing to convince me that it's in any way dangerous.0
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I have seen nothing to convince me that it's in any way dangerous.
Do you not wonder why there's no conflicting studies yet many many people that feel they have a reaction?
Btw I am undecided on this issue, I choose to not include it in my diet because the products that contain them have no nutritional benefit. I am however well versed in food politics and this is why it bothers me.0 -
I have seen nothing to convince me that it's in any way dangerous.
Do you not wonder why there's no conflicting studies yet many many people that feel they have a reaction?
Same goes for MSG, see Chinese restaurant syndrome0 -
I have seen nothing to convince me that it's in any way dangerous.
Do you not wonder why there's no conflicting studies yet many many people that feel they have a reaction?
There are plenty of conflicting studies. The ones that show harmful effects are usually done on rodents and typically use doses that are not even remotely proximal to human consumption or they use injected aspartame which isn't realistic because aspartame doesn't enter the bloodstream as aspartame due to the rate at which it breaks down.0 -
id have real sugar before fake sugar, honestly0
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I have seen nothing to convince me that it's in any way dangerous.
Do you not wonder why there's no conflicting studies yet many many people that feel they have a reaction?
There are plenty of conflicting studies. The ones that show harmful effects are usually done on rodents and typically use doses that are not even remotely proximal to human consumption or they use injected aspartame which isn't realistic because aspartame doesn't enter the bloodstream as aspartame due to the rate at which it breaks down.
Do you always call conspiracy when something challenges your previously held beliefs?
No in fact it doesn't challenge my beliefs. Not did I make it a personal issue. Do you believe everything your government tells you?0 -
I have seen nothing to convince me that it's in any way dangerous.
Do you not wonder why there's no conflicting studies yet many many people that feel they have a reaction?
There are plenty of conflicting studies. The ones that show harmful effects are usually done on rodents and typically use doses that are not even remotely proximal to human consumption or they use injected aspartame which isn't realistic because aspartame doesn't enter the bloodstream as aspartame due to the rate at which it breaks down.
Do you always call conspiracy when something challenges your previously held beliefs?
No in fact it doesn't challenge my beliefs. Not did I make it a personal issue. Do you believe everything your government tells you?
No I do not. What makes you believe the government was the one that told me how aspartame metabolizes? Not all studies are a government funded conspiracy.
EDIT: That being said, I could understand if, for example, all of the studies that show aspartame is safe, were funded by Pepsi. Then you'd have something to go off of.
Much in the same way that I'd question a study from an animal rights group that shows an association between meat and all kinds of ill effects or _________ (insert other china study nonsense here).0 -
I have seen nothing to convince me that it's in any way dangerous.
Do you not wonder why there's no conflicting studies yet many many people that feel they have a reaction?
There are plenty of conflicting studies. The ones that show harmful effects are usually done on rodents and typically use doses that are not even remotely proximal to human consumption or they use injected aspartame which isn't realistic because aspartame doesn't enter the bloodstream as aspartame due to the rate at which it breaks down.
Do you always call conspiracy when something challenges your previously held beliefs?
No in fact it doesn't challenge my beliefs. Not did I make it a personal issue. Do you believe everything your government tells you?
No I do not. What makes you believe the government was the one that told me how aspartame metabolizes? Not all studies are a government funded conspiracy.
EDIT: That being said, I could understand if, for example, all of the studies that show aspartame is safe, were funded by Pepsi. Then you'd have something to go off of.
Much in the same way that I'd question a study from an animal rights group that shows an association between meat and all kinds of ill effects or _________ (insert other china study nonsense here).
Because I've looked into the food politics behind the issue, how it was passed as safe and how studies that could prove otherwise usually have their funding withdrawn etc
As I said before, I am undecided on the issue but just because government funded research says its safe....doesn't convince me it is. In my opinion it has no place in a healthy diet. That of course is only my opinion.
Edit: you d realise that many of the members of the FDA are actually trained by coca cola? And other large food companies? They aren't infependabt. The man that pushed through aspartame actually left shortly afterwards to work for a company that creates it.
P.s I'm glad we agree on the China Study being bs and I do have high regard for you, however I do have valid points too and I'm well versed in nutrition also x0 -
I have seen nothing to convince me that it's in any way dangerous.
Do you not wonder why there's no conflicting studies yet many many people that feel they have a reaction?
Btw I am undecided on this issue, I choose to not include it in my diet because the products that contain them have no nutritional benefit. I am however well versed in food politics and this is why it bothers me.
I chalk it up to the same effect that has people on here raving about green tea pills and raspberry ketones.0 -
I have seen nothing to convince me that it's in any way dangerous.
Do you not wonder why there's no conflicting studies yet many many people that feel they have a reaction?
There are plenty of conflicting studies. The ones that show harmful effects are usually done on rodents and typically use doses that are not even remotely proximal to human consumption or they use injected aspartame which isn't realistic because aspartame doesn't enter the bloodstream as aspartame due to the rate at which it breaks down.
Do you always call conspiracy when something challenges your previously held beliefs?
No in fact it doesn't challenge my beliefs. Not did I make it a personal issue. Do you believe everything your government tells you?
No I do not. What makes you believe the government was the one that told me how aspartame metabolizes? Not all studies are a government funded conspiracy.
EDIT: That being said, I could understand if, for example, all of the studies that show aspartame is safe, were funded by Pepsi. Then you'd have something to go off of.
Much in the same way that I'd question a study from an animal rights group that shows an association between meat and all kinds of ill effects or _________ (insert other china study nonsense here).
Because I've looked into the food politics behind the issue, how it was passed as safe and how studies that could prove otherwise usually have their funding withdrawn etc
As I said before, I am undecided on the issue but just because government funded research says its safe....doesn't convince me it is. In my opinion it has no place in a healthy diet. That of course is only my opinion.
Edit: you d realise that many of the members of the FDA are actually trained by coca cola? And other large food companies? They aren't infependabt. The man that pushed through aspartame actually left shortly afterwards to work for a company that creates it.
What about studies done in non US countries? Also a conspiracy?0 -
From a politics point of view take a look at this link that also notes studies done on humans showing negative effects of aspartame that were indendantly funded. Also note further down where it states that FDA were caught removing data to reach the desired outcome in this regard. Note that I haven't looked into these studies, I may well do in following days out of pure interest, I'm also not stating it's dangerous but that we should always question what we are told.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/050406goodforyou.htm0 -
From a politics point of view take a look at this link that also notes studies done on humans showing negative effects of aspartame that were indendantly funded. Also note further down where it states that FDA were caught removing data to reach the desired outcome in this regard. Note that I haven't looked into these studies, I may well do in following days out of pure interest, I'm also not stating it's dangerous but that we should always question what we are told.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/050406goodforyou.htm
I skimmed the article and clicked some of the links. None of them are to actual studies. Where are these studies that show problems?0 -
I have seen nothing to convince me that it's in any way dangerous.
Do you not wonder why there's no conflicting studies yet many many people that feel they have a reaction?
There are plenty of conflicting studies. The ones that show harmful effects are usually done on rodents and typically use doses that are not even remotely proximal to human consumption or they use injected aspartame which isn't realistic because aspartame doesn't enter the bloodstream as aspartame due to the rate at which it breaks down.
Do you always call conspiracy when something challenges your previously held beliefs?
No in fact it doesn't challenge my beliefs. Not did I make it a personal issue. Do you believe everything your government tells you?
No I do not. What makes you believe the government was the one that told me how aspartame metabolizes? Not all studies are a government funded conspiracy.
EDIT: That being said, I could understand if, for example, all of the studies that show aspartame is safe, were funded by Pepsi. Then you'd have something to go off of.
Much in the same way that I'd question a study from an animal rights group that shows an association between meat and all kinds of ill effects or _________ (insert other china study nonsense here).
Because I've looked into the food politics behind the issue, how it was passed as safe and how studies that could prove otherwise usually have their funding withdrawn etc
As I said before, I am undecided on the issue but just because government funded research says its safe....doesn't convince me it is. In my opinion it has no place in a healthy diet. That of course is only my opinion.
Edit: you d realise that many of the members of the FDA are actually trained by coca cola? And other large food companies? They aren't infependabt. The man that pushed through aspartame actually left shortly afterwards to work for a company that creates it.
What about studies done in non US countries? Also a conspiracy?
I'm not educated in the political state of other countries regarding this topic. Unfortunately there's only so much time in the day lol. I'm not arguing with you, just saying maybe you should question it, look a bit deeper. You may come to the same conclusion, you may not.0 -
From a politics point of view take a look at this link that also notes studies done on humans showing negative effects of aspartame that were indendantly funded. Also note further down where it states that FDA were caught removing data to reach the desired outcome in this regard. Note that I haven't looked into these studies, I may well do in following days out of pure interest, I'm also not stating it's dangerous but that we should always question what we are told.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/050406goodforyou.htm
I skimmed the article and clicked some of the links. None of them are to actual studies. Where are these studies that show problems?
As I noted....I haven't looked into them. You'd have to do the ground work yourself
Edit: he also linked to this http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2005/130405aspartamelink.htm0 -
never killed anyone.. prove me wrong?
Easily could have killed me. Aspartame was causing me to have seizures. Not falling down in the floor, just "lights out" seizures. It actually happened when I was driving, but thank goodness I was stopped at a light. I am very glad we figured out is was aspartame and I didn't have to spend the rest of my life taking anti-seizure meds and washing them down with a diet drink.0 -
That sounds like you have a severe medical problem triggered by aspartame.never killed anyone.. prove me wrong?
Easily could have killed me. Aspartame was causing me to have seizures. Not falling down in the floor, just "lights out" seizures. It actually happened when I was driving, but thank goodness I was stopped at a light. I am very glad we figured out is was aspartame and I didn't have to spend the rest of my life taking anti-seizure meds and washing them down with a diet drink.
I enjoy peanuts myself, but certain people can't get a whiff of them without having a near death experience.0
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