HALP! Heavy Lifting Made Me SUPAH Bulky!!!

skinnyjuu

Amazinggg!

mustgetmuscles1

I am not minimizing it, i said she got good results. I am saying, "you didn't get your results from lifting." that's what i am saying...

Two studies that showed preservation or increase of LBM with resistance training while in a caloric deficit. Cardio alone did not preserve LBM.
http://www.jacn.org/content/18/2/115.abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23019316

First one, was not even close. I saw 800 calories a day and i just closed out of it. I think that's the one where they just at a lot of protein and lifted and preserved LBM. I am familiar with that study. The calories are just way to low to even compare.

The 2nd study we can compare to some degree. The results to the Aerobic group and the aerobic and weight training group where pretty much similar. So to avoid confusion I'll just call it aerobic group. The resistance group will just be called the resistance group.

What this study shows:
1. The aerobic group lost more total weight and fat mass than the resistance group.
2. Resistance group put on more LBM than aerobic group.


Now the problem is they where all over weight. It was done on over weight people. As I said above, people who are more over weight will use more body fat for energy. This means they will get more nutrients to feed their muscles. Which can cause an increase of LBM when resistance training is sufficient. What happens if you burn more calories? Some of those calories will get used for energy when you workout. This will limit the nutrients to your muscles which can lead to a loss of LBM.

The aerobic group lost some LBM that's obvious. Now the aerobic and weight training group also lost some LBM. Shouldn't the resistance training preserve LBM? How come it didn't? It's more than likely due to the degree of the calorie deficit. I don't got the data for calories consumed, but just common sense is that they would burn more calories if they all at the same amount of calories.

Are you still talking?

RT and AT/RT increased lean body mass more than AT

You then go on to talk about calorie deficit after you disregarded the study where calories were controlled on a VLCD. Resistance training STILL preserved LBM.

Factory_Reset

Lea, you deserve for this to roll

whierd

SQUAT, BEEP!!! (rhymes with witch)

oh, look! hi me again.

merrily we roll alonggggg

*lick*

Rolled yet?

3dogsrunning

Amazinggg!

QFT

SatchGallamax

The butt to end all butts. I'll take 1, please.

1ConcreteGirl

The butt to end all butts. I'll take 1, please.

That thing defies gravity

calibriintx

Now here's the kicker, how are they going to gain LBM on a calorie deficit? (i will go for newbie gains, but those are small). What i just realized, it's not really about increase of LBM. it's about muscle tension in a relaxed state. (i forgot the name of this). Your muscles look better, but there isn't more muscle mass.The muscles are just contracted when in a relaxed state.

I do agree women can look better lifting weights. I am all for that. This doesn't mean there is an increase of LBM. It actually gets pretty complex. This leads in to different types of hypertrophy(increase of muscle cell size) and neurological adaptation. That's beyond the scope of this discussion. I am saying "weight training didn't cause her 20lbs weight loss(or whatever it was in 5 months). Does she have less fat on her? yes... I am not denying that. As I think of it, I know women about her starting weight and lost about 30-40lbs with out weight lifting and gotten similar results.

Why don't you go start your own thread about how you think lifting heavy doesn't impact LBM on a deficit? Are you going to troll every post like this or did you just have a bone to pick with Lea?

calibriintx

The butt to end all butts. I'll take 1, please.

Thank you, may I have another?

whierd

The butt to end all butts. I'll take 1, please.

That thing defies gravity

And pants.

Factory_Reset

The butt to end all butts. I'll take 1, please.

Me too, me too

Otterluv

The butt to end all butts. I'll take 1, please.

Me too, me too

Is there a line forming? Because I want 1, too!

1ConcreteGirl

Lea, you are one of the many beautiful mfp ladies who lift, that made me want to lift. Your "offer" to hold my hand and slap my a** was really just a added bonus!! THANK YOU for being inspiring and all that :flowerforyou:

And Naomi and Iulia I cannot wait to get bulky like you ladies :flowerforyou: (did not look at everyone's pics so I'm sure there's more)

Thank you, doll!

You'll love getting bulky like us.

Although Iulia really deserves all the credit for these abbbbbbs (get it? that's my six pack)

*ahem

ALL the credit?

Hahaha!

Inside joke.

Actual credit for getting me inside a gym goes to Jules and Desterknee and Yoovie and Apollo. Mostly Jules.

dawww:flowerforyou:

eff that 7 pounds! SQUAT, BEEP!

I'm squatting! Although honestly, I like benching and deadlifting more. Sorry, sensei. :x

Factory_Reset

Ugh, just go home already.

whierd

Do you find deadlifting more exhausting than squatting? Because I do.

whierd

Ugh, just go home already.

Hiiiiiiiii

Otterluv

Between these two photos, I lost one pound and did ZERO cardio.

Wow, those are incredible results. You started out gorgeous, but you are truly jaw-dropping now!

WestCoastPhoenix

Factory_Reset

Do you find deadlifting more exhausting than squatting? Because I do.

I find certain mfp members to be more exhausting than doing deadlifts and squats on the same day.

Otterluv

Do you find deadlifting more exhausting than squatting? Because I do.

Sometimes yes, sometimes no. That's a pretty deep question for this late at night.

Factory_Reset

Ugh, just go home already.

Hiiiiiiiii

How YOU doin?

whierd

Do you find deadlifting more exhausting than squatting? Because I do.

I find certain mfp members to be more exhausting than doing deadlifts and squats on the same day.

I told you to rest up first. It is your own fault.

1ConcreteGirl

Do you find deadlifting more exhausting than squatting? Because I do.

I find certain mfp members to be more exhausting than doing deadlifts and squats on the same day.

QFT.

And yes, it is more thoroughly exhausting, but it takes me longer to get there with deadlifts. Also my grip strength has increased like woah, and this is coming from a girl who milked goats by hand for a decade. I give a hell of a handjob.

whierd

Ugh, just go home already.

Hiiiiiiiii

How YOU doin?

Laying in bed waiting for the thread to roll so I can go to sleep. How YOU doin?

Otterluv

Do you find deadlifting more exhausting than squatting? Because I do.

I find certain mfp members to be more exhausting than doing deadlifts and squats on the same day.

What if we deadlifted and squatted those mfp members? It could be more efficient. Plus, as they are probably pretty wiggly, it could work tons of muscle groups.

3dogsrunning

The butt to end all butts. I'll take 1, please.

Can't even blame (or thank) Lulu. Awesome.

Sarauk2sf

The butt to end all butts. I'll take 1, please.

Me too, me too

How many are available as I want one also!

1ConcreteGirl

Lea you rock! Heavy lifting made me bulky too.

Just revisiting another of my favorites from this thread.

Sarauk2sf

Do you find deadlifting more exhausting than squatting? Because I do.

I find certain mfp members to be more exhausting than doing deadlifts and squats on the same day.

What if we deadlifted and squatted those mfp members? It could be more efficient. Plus, as they are probably pretty wiggly, it could work tons of muscle groups.

Definitely be using lots of stabilizer muscles!

whierd

Do you find deadlifting more exhausting than squatting? Because I do.

I find certain mfp members to be more exhausting than doing deadlifts and squats on the same day.

QFT.

And yes, it is more thoroughly exhausting, but it takes me longer to get there with deadlifts. Also my grip strength has increased like woah, and this is coming from a girl who milked goats by hand for a decade. I give a hell of a handjob.

First off, I think I love you now.

Second, what do you mean takes you longer? Normally with deadlifts while I am halfway throug warming up I am thinking "Damn, and I still have another 200lbs to add?" I almost want to lay down when I am done.