Abercrombie and Fitch CEO "hates fat chicks"

shutupandlift13

I'm actually not falling for anything... and I think you're missing the underlying point of what I'm saying. People assume he is shaming others and yet they sit here and do the same thing to him.

I agree about that point.

I was addressing everyone who is putting "hates fat chicks" in quotes, as if he said it.

Alright we need to pump the breaks right here. I don't know how this sort of thinking got started but it needs to stop. Not every asymmetrical situation is born from hypocrisy. We imprison people who commit violent crimes but we don't want to be imprisoned ourselves. I want some people to be treated differently than me. It is possible to do something that will make you deserving of hostility from others.

This man has said shameful things and as a result he deserves to be shamed for it. If you go around saying "Well your shaming him so you are no better." you are making people like this bullet proof because holding someone accountable might mean you have to shame them. This guy said things that should cost him business and people who call him out on it are fully justified.

You just equated imprisoning criminals to mocking someone's personal appearance for a shallow remark that he made. Its not making him bulletproof, its holding yourself to a higher standard.

Boycott his business, that's way more of a stance than attacking his personal appearance which sometimes people have no control over.

You have got to be kidding me. I did not equate the two at all. There was no point where I said that shallow people who mock someone's personal appearance should be treated like criminals. All I was doing was showing that not all asymmetrical situations are born from hypocrisy by means of analogy. I can't for the life of me imagine how you could not have gotten that.

You haven't achieved some higher standard simply because you choose not to point out this *kitten* for being a hypocrite. I agree that boycotting his business is a more powerful stance and I do. That doesn't mean we shouldn't call a duck and duck. Before you get confused I am not actually calling the CEO a duck.

Oh, bless her heart. Your words are too big. It confuses people.

You're right, I'm a moron...

:drinker:

Hey, you said it.

His point was very well worded, and you misconstrued what he was saying. It was just some friendly teasing because of that. No need to get so defensive.

You insulted my intelligence and understanding of average vocabulary, how is that not offensive?

dewsmom78

I walk a wide circle around that store in the mall because the stench is enough to incapacitate an elephant. I don't know how the skinny kids who shop and work there can do so without gas masks.

The smell is obnoxious! I read the article but I still like some of their women's clothing. When I was super skinny I wore them a lot. Now my shoulders bust out of everything. If I get bigger sizes to fit them, it looks like maternity wear.

Agreed it's awful.

I for one, don't are to spend $70 on jeans that are ripped to *kitten*. The shirt fabric is so flimsy, and of course sizes run small and pants run long. So unless you're 5'10 and 100lbs, shop elsewhere.

crista_b

I'm actually not falling for anything... and I think you're missing the underlying point of what I'm saying. People assume he is shaming others and yet they sit here and do the same thing to him.

I agree about that point.

I was addressing everyone who is putting "hates fat chicks" in quotes, as if he said it.

Alright we need to pump the breaks right here. I don't know how this sort of thinking got started but it needs to stop. Not every asymmetrical situation is born from hypocrisy. We imprison people who commit violent crimes but we don't want to be imprisoned ourselves. I want some people to be treated differently than me. It is possible to do something that will make you deserving of hostility from others.

This man has said shameful things and as a result he deserves to be shamed for it. If you go around saying "Well your shaming him so you are no better." you are making people like this bullet proof because holding someone accountable might mean you have to shame them. This guy said things that should cost him business and people who call him out on it are fully justified.

You just equated imprisoning criminals to mocking someone's personal appearance for a shallow remark that he made. Its not making him bulletproof, its holding yourself to a higher standard.

Boycott his business, that's way more of a stance than attacking his personal appearance which sometimes people have no control over.

You have got to be kidding me. I did not equate the two at all. There was no point where I said that shallow people who mock someone's personal appearance should be treated like criminals. All I was doing was showing that not all asymmetrical situations are born from hypocrisy by means of analogy. I can't for the life of me imagine how you could not have gotten that.

You haven't achieved some higher standard simply because you choose not to point out this *kitten* for being a hypocrite. I agree that boycotting his business is a more powerful stance and I do. That doesn't mean we shouldn't call a duck and duck. Before you get confused I am not actually calling the CEO a duck.

Oh, bless her heart. Your words are too big. It confuses people.

You're right, I'm a moron...

:drinker:

Hey, you said it.

His point was very well worded, and you misconstrued what he was saying. It was just some friendly teasing because of that. No need to get so defensive.

You insulted my intelligence and understanding of average vocabulary, how is that not offensive?

I just explained how... Because you misunderstood something so I made a joke about that. As I just said, it was friendly teasing. I have nothing against you; I don't even know you.

Furthermore, I never said you were stupid. I said that his well worded response confuses people which could be the reason behind your misunderstanding of what he was saying.

BigDaddyRonnie

Who cares? I mean do you really care? I sure as he!! don't. I haven't bought, won't buy, and my kids (targeted age of A&F) cannot stand those that wear the clothes because of this (and other) viewpoints.

It's the same argument that was had for Hooters. Until people realize(d) that their food is not that great, the coverage gives them free advertising.

A&F - clothes are poorly constructed...and the image of the people buying/wearing them is such a small % that its not worth it to fall into their trap for coverage - advertising - sales.

Fish_Fuzz

Thought this would be relevant :

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/14/abercrombie-and-fitch-homeless-brand-readjustment_n_3272498.html

neandermagnon

it's a marketing strategy, annoy people and they talk about you more, and more people become aware of your brand. I had barely noticed the existence of aberzombie and filch before reading this thread about this controversy

if he's really astute at marketing, he'll also have lots of investment in plus size clothing stores which will then launch a counter attack marketing strategy, i.e. appealing to all the "fat chicks" that he greatly upset, and set them up in some unofficial fat v skinny war via social media, and profit from the clothes sales from both sides.

Yes I'm very cynical. But all of this is about money and trying to drum up sales, that is it.

Bridget0927

Thought this would be relevant :

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/14/abercrombie-and-fitch-homeless-brand-readjustment_n_3272498.html

HAHAHHAHAHHA this is excellent!

neandermagnon

Thought this would be relevant :

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/14/abercrombie-and-fitch-homeless-brand-readjustment_n_3272498.html

HAHAHHAHAHHA this is excellent!

:drinker:

BinaryPulsar

it's a marketing strategy, annoy people and they talk about you more, and more people become aware of your brand. I had barely noticed the existence of aberzombie and filch before reading this thread about this controversy

if he's really astute at marketing, he'll also have lots of investment in plus size clothing stores which will then launch a counter attack marketing strategy, i.e. appealing to all the "fat chicks" that he greatly upset, and set them up in some unofficial fat v skinny war via social media, and profit from the clothes sales from both sides.

Yes I'm very cynical. But all of this is about money and trying to drum up sales, that is it.

I think you are right! I had also never given this company a second thought until hearing all of this. And everyone was talking about the small sizes and for a brief second I wondered if they might have bikinis that would fit me. Not that I actually plan on shopping there now (I would need to drive to the states anyway). But, now I know more about the existence of this company than I did before.

meadow_sage

As a fat chick, I don't give a rats *kitten*. He is entitled to his preferences. Why do people think that they are the only one who is allowed to have an opinion? Get over it.

Just like this OP and everyone else is entitled to their oppinion and are allowed to verbalize that. People definitely need to know about his ignorant opinion, so it can hit him where it hurts...in his bottom line. It amazes me that people buy that stuff anyway. If you don't care that's fine, get over it.

meadow_sage

i don't understand how this is such a big deal just because he finally said it... have you never been in a A&F store? it's obvious they hate bigger people...

I have never been in an A&F because I already wouldn't buy their stuff because there is no way I would spend good money on cheap t-shirts. NO way ever.

RGv2

There are many many many companies that do this... they just don't advertise it.... WHY do you think Lululemon only goes to size 12??

Pretty much.....

BinaryPulsar

There are many many many companies that do this... they just don't advertise it.... WHY do you think Lululemon only goes to size 12??

Pretty much.....

They also don't go smaller than a size 2.

crista_b

There are many many many companies that do this... they just don't advertise it.... WHY do you think Lululemon only goes to size 12??

Pretty much.....

They also don't go smaller than a size 2.

They "hate skinny chicks"

ChrisRS87

soldier4242

What is wrong with developing a business model that caters to slender people?

Should slender women hate Torrid?

I dont hear skinny chicks bemoaning Lane Bryant......

There is nothing wrong with developing a business model that caters to slender people. I don't even think that is the greatest source of the outrage. I think was ticks people off the most is that he is blatantly stating that he is holding his customers to a standard of beauty that he does not meet himself. It is obvious that he is not attractive enough to work at one of his own stores.

He had to know that this was going to blow up in his face and if he didn't he was asleep at the wheel. He is going to turn away some customers as a result of these statements plain and simply.

While there will be business lost there will also be business gained and he has to be counting on the gain being greater than the loss. I am hesitant to mention this part because it might anger people further but I do think he knew this would piss people off and I do think he did this on purpose.

There is an economic concept known as the "positional good." It is when something has value attributed to it specifically because it is not possessed by others. By telling everyone that his clothing lines are exclusionary he actually creates a desire in some people to have their cloths. People will feel a sense of status by virtue of the fact that they are able to wear the A&F clothing.

Some people will refuse to wear his cloths because they aren't shallow but he is banking on the assumption that his customer base is made up of shallow people. He wants people to feel a sense of superiority when they wear his cloths. A sort of "I can wear it and you can't." mentality.

BAMFMeredith

Deipneus

I have a limited supply of outrage and have none to waste on this company.

dunnodunno

LMFAO!

soldier4242

LMFAO!

LOL it looks like his face fell off and someone smooshed it back on.

ironanimal

Isn't that their CEO?

He totally is :bigsmile:

Combatting perceived shaming with blatant shaming? Mature.

I don't give a rats *kitten* who he wants to sell his clothes too.

The likeness is remarkable.

BrookieHatesCookies

HOLY EWW

yenilopez1985

a picture is worth a thousand words. If my kid wanted to model for this guy, i'd draw the line. seriously.

Man is he ugly!!!!.... fat can go away with diet and exercise.... that face I dont think plastic surgery would fix it......well may be he already had it lol
On another note i dont ever bother to go into that store, clothes dont fit and they are way too expensive, i can get something a lot cuter at torrid for just about the same money... even better yet i could get something cuter at walmart!!!

HealthyLifestyleG525

I love A&F.... it lets me identify whos a *kitten* without even having to talk to them. On the other hand I hate their stores and the all out assault on my senses they are making by spraying that damn pefume in the air. Walking past A&F is worse than walking past a yankee hill candle store. I can seriously smell the local A&F from across the mall. It is non consensual.

Haha ^^This^^

Ironic too that one of the ugliest men I've ever seen says he only wants good looking people wearing his product.... he must not wear his own clothes then.

THis^^^^^^^^^^^

Lift_This_

this thread is still alive...smh.:noway: :noway: :noway: :noway: :noway: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :yawn: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

fivesilentmiles

bump to read later.
I read an article today and I think I officially know why I've disliked Abercrombie & Fitch since high school.

vice350z

Hey A&F CEO...i'm fat, you're ugly...i can lose weight.

onedayatatime12

Well my reaction was :explode:

First thing I wondered was, how 'attractive' is this guy when he claims that only 'thin and beautiful' people can wear Abercrombie? He definitely isn't the most attractive guy I've ever seen (Average in my opinion, but then again I've been told I have peculiar taste in men ). Look who's talking Jeffries.

vice350z

Abercrombie XL = Kohl's M

It's just not a clothing store for larger folks.

And who the fvck pays $60 for a $3 teeshirt advertising A&F's logo on it? Idiots.

BinaryPulsar

Abercrombie XL = Kohl's M

It's just not a clothing store for larger folks.

And that is the reason someone like me can't shop at stores like Kohls, where the extra small is so big it should really be labeled a medium.