Eating pizza, pop tarts, & ice cream while losing weight

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  • Lyadeia
    Lyadeia Posts: 4,603 Member
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    Just because "it fits your macros" that does not mean it is nutritious or good for you in any way. Eating this way is just fine for those who would like to make room for this stuff. I don't get that much enjoyment from junk so I tend to not eat it often. A pack of pop tarts and pizza make me feel drained, bloated and irritable. I like to feel good after I eat.

    I'm glad that I don't have this overwhelming "bad" feeling after eating delicious foods. That only happens when I overeat, and that can also happen when I overeat veggies and fruits.
  • HotrodsGirl0107
    HotrodsGirl0107 Posts: 243 Member
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    Speaking of crappy processed foods...has anyone tried the mega stuffed golden oreos??? They are delicious. Like a mouth full of heaven.

    These are soooooo good! I like to dip them in dark chocolate almond milk!

    In regards to the OP: I had tried cutting what people consider "bad" foods from diet, but for me it didn't work. It wasn't until I came here that I found out about this crazy concept called moderation (old profile). It was a life saver for me. I started eating 80 to 90 percent clean but I could still have a serving of Oreos and a glass of almond milk if it fit into my goals. Even at 275lbs o was netting 1400 calories and practicing moderation and I lost weight. Throughout my weightless I have also been able to come off of all my depression meds, all of my stomach medicine, all pain medicine (except for Aleve on occasion), and my high blood pressure medicine. I am at 145 lbs at 5'6" and my body fat is just over 19%. I think I am doing pretty good.

    I am maintaining at 2300-2400 calories a day, and thank you to all those who have helped me along the way. Your willingness to share your knowledge is greatly appreciated.
  • jennifershoo
    jennifershoo Posts: 3,198 Member
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    There's a lot of angry people on these forums due to their misery that other people can indulge and maintain their goals whilst the "healthy" elitists eat tasteless kaka and have to pretend they like it. I even see this at my gym. Sometimes I'll have a Snickers bar as my post-workout snack and some people will act like I killed their pet. If these people were actually happy with their healthy lives, they wouldn't get so offended.

    Love this^

    Foodie elitism and absolutism is becoming the prevailing wisdom for many despite the lack of evidence they bring to the table from CREDIBLE sources.

    What is a "credible" source? Every time someone mentions a scientific article or a study, it gets shuts down by other people who don't want to believe in it because it's against their lifestyle. And if we mention an expert in the field, he gets accused of being paid by the "big corporations" or he just want to make money by selling his health books or supplements, etc.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    Enjoy your CVD and diabetes
    Some people just want to lose weight.

    Some people want to actually be healthy.

    Enjoy your crappy processed foods.

    Enjoy the view from your high horse.

    HAHAHA I wish I had a Thumbs Up button for that one..
    I too believe in not deprieving myself but watching my portions. I'd much rather steadily lose than deprieve myself and end up binging and jumping off the wagon. IF you chose to eat clean and unprocessed foods great for you but this site was intended to be a motivational site and not one to knock someone down. There are plenty of people out there that continue to lose or have lost by eating which you call dirty foods or processed foods. Obviously clean eating isn't the only way to eat and lose.

    In the three years since I stopped eating sugary foods, I have not binged once. I make two exceptions to the no-sweets rule. I eat three shortbread cookies on Christmas day and I eat a tiny piece of cake on my birthday. I space them out over the course of the day because I find them sickeningly sweet if eaten all at once. Moderation is NOT eating trash and then spending hours working out to compensate for the wasted calories.

    I exercise, primarily for body comp., an hour a day 6 days a week. That's hardly spending hours working out to compensate for "wasted calories". You really have a hard time understanding that most people aren't infirmed and have higher, than yours, TDEE.

    I don't really consider my walks at work exercise. I do log them though, so I guess maybe I do. They're really just a mental break from my desk (although I do just monitor emails on my phone the whole time so...meh)
  • newdaydawning79
    newdaydawning79 Posts: 1,503 Member
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    This is so turning into a 'OH NOES YOU WILL GET CANCER IF YOU DON'T EAT PERFECT' thread, methinks.

    I'll go back to eating my GMO soy and non-organic products in silence now.
  • WinnerVictorious
    WinnerVictorious Posts: 4,735 Member
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    Just because "it fits your macros" that does not mean it is nutritious or good for you in any way. Eating this way is just fine for those who would like to make room for this stuff. I don't get that much enjoyment from junk so I tend to not eat it often. A pack of pop tarts and pizza make me feel drained, bloated and irritable. I like to feel good after I eat.

    name the food and i can find an amount you can eat of that food that will make you feel drained, bloated, and irritable too.

    all food contains nutrients. so by definition, all food is nutritious. you can mix and match foods based on their nutritional content to create a healthy and satisfying diet. people who approach health and fitness in this way are much less likely to have maintenance problems down the road. i suspect they'll also live MUCH happier lives. people who don't follow that approach will always be bitter and judgemental towards those who do.
  • Lyadeia
    Lyadeia Posts: 4,603 Member
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    There's a lot of angry people on these forums due to their misery that other people can indulge and maintain their goals whilst the "healthy" elitists eat tasteless kaka and have to pretend they like it. I even see this at my gym. Sometimes I'll have a Snickers bar as my post-workout snack and some people will act like I killed their pet. If these people were actually happy with their healthy lives, they wouldn't get so offended.

    This. So this...

    :drinker: :drinker: :drinker:

    I used to be a healthy "clean" eater and I used to be one of those annoying pricks to harass others about not being like me.

    Then I learned about nutrition and health, and then I relaxed. And amazingly enough, I didn't implode when I started eating what I like again. In fact, my lean mass as increased, my fat mass has decreased, I've had more energy, my strength in the weight room has increased, and I am not pissed off about not being able to eat Thanksgiviing Dinner anymore. And my most recent doctor's visit for a regular check-up (March this year) was my best ever, even when I was all gung ho about "clean" eating.
  • Autumnsun26
    Autumnsun26 Posts: 83 Member
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    "Eat in moderation" I try to eat healthy as best as I can. I do a low carb, low fat, high protein diet. I also count my sugars.

    Do I have a slice of pizza? Yes

    Do I have ice cream? Yes, but it will be no sugar added (for instance the other night my husband wanted a half priced sonic shake.. so I told him to go on. I went in the kitchen got a cup of no sugar added icecream a little bit of milk and 2 sugar free oreo off brand cookies and blended them up) So good. It had 337 calories. My husbands shake had close to 1000 calories.. and over 100 g of sugar. So not worth it to me!)

    It is not healthy to eat pop tarts everyday. You have to treat yourself but again not everyday. I am doing this not only for myself but for my health. Diet is key in weight loss and keeping it off.
  • ImpossibleGrl
    ImpossibleGrl Posts: 83
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    In for the food porn, and then ran into the endless pointless debate.

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  • mjl54
    mjl54 Posts: 127 Member
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    you can have something everyday and it still being in moderation, its called serving sizes. sure if I sit down and eat a half gallon of ice cream everyday thats not moderation or if i sit down and eat a box Oreos thats not moderation. but if I enjoy a serving of Oreos everyday and I still have my other macro/micro nutrients there is nothing wrong with that and i am healthy have great blood pressure and great cholesterol levels.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    In for the food porn, and then ran into the endless pointless debate.

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    Here ya go:

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  • JoanB5
    JoanB5 Posts: 610 Member
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    NOTE: A poptart serving size is one pastry.

    I'd rather eat more food and not have stomach cramps before breakfast, though I do enjoy my son's crunchies sides he leaves behind with my coffee.

    I save my real treat for later in the day, and sometimes that's a frozen protein smoothie.

    But, I am smaller and cannot afford as many treats, so I have to make harder choices.

    To each his own. Enjoy!
  • majope
    majope Posts: 1,325 Member
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    In for this, too:

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  • 1223345
    1223345 Posts: 1,386 Member
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    There's a lot of angry people on these forums due to their misery that other people can indulge and maintain their goals whilst the "healthy" elitists eat tasteless kaka and have to pretend they like it. I even see this at my gym. Sometimes I'll have a Snickers bar as my post-workout snack and some people will act like I killed their pet. If these people were actually happy with their healthy lives, they wouldn't get so offended.

    Love this^

    Foodie elitism and absolutism is becoming the prevailing wisdom for many despite the lack of evidence they bring to the table from CREDIBLE sources.
    THIS actually goes BOTH ways. I certainly dont try to force my diet on anyone, but I really don't appreciate being nagged about it. Hows about live and let live?
  • SanteMulberry
    SanteMulberry Posts: 3,202 Member
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    Weight loss is to become healthy. So why eat like a slob?

    How am I eating like a slob?

    Diary from yesterday:

    Kirkland Signature (Costco) - Premium Performance Multi 31 Vitamins & Minerals, 1 tablet
    Nature's Bounty - Fish Oil 1400 Mg/980 Mg Omega-3, 1 Softgel
    Body Fortress - Super Advanced Whey Isolate - Vanilla Creme, 2 scoop (35g)


    Lunch
    Kirkland Signature - Almonds, Dry Roasted and Salted, 28 g (1/4 cup)
    Barilla Plus Multigrain Pasta - Farfalle (Bowtie) Noodles, 1 oz
    Generic - Broccoli, 3 oz.
    Cauliflower - Raw Floweret, 3 ounce
    Coca-Cola - Cherry Coke Zero 12oz Can, 12 oz
    Bybee Organic Mixed Vegetables With Shelled Edemame (Costco) - Organic, Frozen Corn, Carrots, Green Beans, & Edamame, 2 cup (100g)
    Lawry's Marinade - Lemon Pepper, 1 tbs
    Kirkland Chicken Breast - Boneless skinless chicken breast, 8 oz
    Knudsen - Cottage Cheese - Lowfat Small Curd, 1/2 cup

    Dinner
    Coca-Cola - Cherry Coke Zero 12oz Can, 12 oz
    Red Brick Pizza - Pizza Bufalo, 1 small pizza
    Gold Coast - Salad Spinach (Premium Select), 200 g
    Kirkland Chicken Breast - Boneless skinless chicken breast, 7 oz

    Upper Crust Bakery - Mini Cinnamon Rolls, 2 rolls (37 g)
    Kellogg's - Pop-Tart - Frosted Red Velvet, 2 pastry
    General Mills Cheerios Plain - Plain Cherrios, 56 g
    Milk Walmart Great Value - 1% Milk, 0.75 cup (240ML)
    General Mills Cereal - Fiber One 80 Calories Honey Squares, 2 1/4 cup (30g)
    Edys - Slow Churned Mint Cookie, 2 cup 63g

    Um. Where's the fruit? Blueberries are a nutritional bonanza, by the way. Proves my point---ever wonder why the fresh fruit rots away in the frig when there are lots of Christmas cookies, etc. around at the holidays? And Cheerios! Really? You'd be much better off with a serving of steel-cut oats (they are very good, you might like them)--they are a source of beta glucans--good for the immune system. The oat flour in Cheerios is so heavily processed that the beta glucans have been removed with the bran. If not steel-cut oats, then at least oat bran is a better source of nutrition (but most oat bran products are heavily laced with sugar and salt). I could help more, but I fear that I would be wasting my time.
  • mjl54
    mjl54 Posts: 127 Member
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    I want to try a poptart sandwich filled with cookie butter. MMMMM
  • rileamoyer
    rileamoyer Posts: 2,411 Member
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    Doable & delicious. That's, part of, what I had for dinner last night. I was completely within my caloric goals for 1+ lbs a week of loss. Also hit my macro and micro needs, quite well.

    It can be done. Don't let people demonize food you love and enjoy. You can work them all in both calorically and nutritionally. For the record, I don't eat pizza every day. Rarely, to be honest. I do however eat ice cream (a pint) and pop tarts daily. Every. Single. Day.

    It's been awhile since I've posted something like this, but when the food shaming and demonizing threads creep up to certain levels (like recently) I do find it helpful to point out the other side of the story.

    Carry on and have a good weekend!

    /endPSA

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    Well I don't eat pop tarts and ice cream every day, but I do get them now and then - when I want them. I still eat what I want, just smaller portions. But then I eat a fairly balanced diet most days. The thing that worked for me was just making changes in portion sizes and reducing the frequency of the 'bad stuff'. Worked great. And yes, I am relative healthy, fairly fit and have plenty of engery.
  • Brownsbacker4evr
    Brownsbacker4evr Posts: 365 Member
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    IIFYM
  • 1223345
    1223345 Posts: 1,386 Member
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    Just because "it fits your macros" that does not mean it is nutritious or good for you in any way. Eating this way is just fine for those who would like to make room for this stuff. I don't get that much enjoyment from junk so I tend to not eat it often. A pack of pop tarts and pizza make me feel drained, bloated and irritable. I like to feel good after I eat.

    I'm glad that I don't have this overwhelming "bad" feeling after eating delicious foods. That only happens when I overeat, and that can also happen when I overeat veggies and fruits.

    I eat delicious food. Just because YOU don't think what is on my plate is good, doesn't mean I am not enjoying it. I would rather have a cheese omelet with a side of blueberries for breakfast than poptarts or a bagel. If I were to eat something like a bagel, I wouldn't get enjoyment from it and I would feel ravenously hungry for the rest of the day. You fall into the "I assume you don't like your food because I don't like your food" category. Believe it or not, not everyone LOVES to eat the same stuff YOU do.
  • magerum
    magerum Posts: 12,589 Member
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    NOTE: A poptart serving size is one pastry.

    I'd rather eat more food and not have stomach cramps before breakfast, though I do enjoy my son's crunchies sides he leaves behind with my coffee.

    I save my real treat for later in the day, and sometimes that's a frozen protein smoothie.

    But, I am smaller and cannot afford as many treats, so I have to make harder choices.

    To each his own. Enjoy!

    I eat my pop tarts right before bed, just for the record.

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