Eating pizza, pop tarts, & ice cream while losing weight
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Run everyday like I do. That's what I do and I can eat anything I want without it affecting my weight. It helps me maintain my weight.
You are a man. Just like there are weight-lifting rules for women, there are dietary suggestions for women. Since women have 2 to 3 times the amount of leptin circulating in their blood as men do AT THE SAME LEVEL OF BODY FAT, they are much more likely to end up with leptin-resistance as men if they are not very careful with their diet. Nature, it seems, wants women to be plump (for the purposes of reproduction, no doubt) while it wants men to be strong and lean. We have a different set of recommendations to follow.
Weight lifting rules for women????
Dietary suggestions for women????
Pink. Eat/lift the pink.0 -
that cat doesnt look too happy with his plain bread.0 -
By this logic, you care deeply for everyone who disagrees with you in this thread.
Then why you keep coming back to argue? If you don't care then why debate it! Geesh........ I said live and let live. about a hundred times throughout this thread. You just want to argue. I don't know why you chose me though. I didn't create the controversy.
See? You know nothing about the diet I USED to follow. You know, the one that allowed a certain amount of so called treats. It was THAT which led me to binging. Have a candy bar! after all IIFYM. But then I could NOT stop eating. JUNK was triggering me to binge. My hunger has normalized, and now I can eat and not stuff myself endlessly. So, again, IF this "IIFYM" thing works for you, great! But it is not the solution for everyone. I like feeling good, not like a hungry, bloated, sluggish beached whale. Therefore I eat what makes me feel good and what tastes good to me.How did you people who eat so perfectly all the time end up here in the first place? Just wondering.
if you want to know, I came looking for ways to stop binging. And I was able to uncover a solution. I have not binged in about 4 months. And before you go there, my binges were sometimes on vegetables or fruit, sometimes peanut butter and potato chips, what ever was within arms reach really.
you need to lose 40lbs. in 4 months you've lost 5lbs. yet you say you came here solely to prevent binging.
seems legit.
maybe, just maybe, the reason you're binging is because of your overly restrictive diet.
so it's the foods fault that you ate it, therefore the food is bad???
how about your spoons, bowls, forks, and plates? do you blame them too??
IIFYM works for everybody. in fact, it is the underlying principle of EVERY successful and healthy diet. unless you do nothing but drink water for 40 days or get liposuction, if you're losing weight and not getting malnourished in the process, then you are following IIFYM even if you don't know.
clean, paleo, low carb, etc. are all "wrappers" that obscure the true cause of weight loss by adding a layer of complexity that includes all sorts of rules about what you can and cannot eat.
it's your preaching of those rules that causes this pushback. if you were to step back and understand that you really are following IIFYM and your food restrictions are a choice you've made, but not a necessity, i think you'd have a much healthier understanding of the whole process and a much better chance of avoiding binging or other problems down the road.
food restrictions which are based on nothing more than the idea that certain foods are good or bad, lead to shame and guilt when you fail to fully adhere to those high standards, which in turn can lead to real eating disorders.
I see you cant handle that someone else eats differently than you. Carry on. I almost thought there was an actual discussion going on. I see now it really just a means to attack as usual.
oh no. trust me. i don't care about you at all. not one single bit.
my comments, like most of the others on here are not aimed at you. your mind is closed and you are confident that what you believe is true. i would call that blissful ignorance, but that's really an irrelevant semantic point.
my comments are aimed at all of the lurkers who may see this thread. not all of them have their minds closed off and if my comments can prompt them to do further research before embracing unnecessary food restrictions, then i consider it worthwhile posting them here.
you can eat nothing but celery for the rest of your life and it would have ZERO effect on my life.
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Sure you shouldn't give up the foods you love, but eat them in moderation. Eating ice cream everyday is not moderation and is ridiculous, for anyone actually even someone not trying to lose weight.
Eating the foods you love in moderation is exactly what he recommended.
How is eating ice cream every day not moderation? Please. There are a lot of us on MFP who eat ice cream almost every day and lose weight and have great body composition.
Interestingly, if you pick out the most successful people on MFP in terms of achieving phenomenal body composition and health, they eat a lot of food people like you would consider "bad" or "unhealthy." People like Sara and Taso and Magerum are the absolute models of fitness success, and they eat things like ice cream daily.
Take your lessons from the people who display astonishing personal success and not what your preconceived ideas of "good" and "bad" food are.
I think whether it is moderation or not depends on what your calorie goal is.
If your calorie goal is 2800 or so a day, then sure, you could fit a serving of ice cream in there daily. If your calorie goal is 1400 or so, then eating a full serving of ice cream daily might make it difficult to get some of the micronutrients you need.
Just wanted to point out as well that success can be had both ways. Most of the people I know personally (not on MFP) who have the best body composition and health of the people around me, are the ones who don't really eat fast food/sugary sweets and the like.
I prefer to avoid them altogether since I find it easier and because I feel much more full and satisfied for the same amount of calories when it's primarily veggies/protein.
I started out at 1400 calories at 275lbs and still was a moderation eater. It isn't just for those who have an enormous calorie allowance.
Before anyone says anything about me not being healthy: I have lost weight, lowered my fat percent while maintaining a good amount of LBM and I no longer have to take any prescription meds.0 -
Most people call it junk food. You can call it whatever you like. Processed food, junk food, magical unicorn food, golden kibble. There are names for everything. I call it junk food as I have my entire life. Believe it or not, not everyone is walking around trying to think of clever ways to brainwash the masses by using special words to convey special meanings. Junk food is what it is. If you like it, great! If not Great! It's your digestive system. Put through it what you like!
No. You are now grasping at straws. People who LIKE it call it junk too. LOL... nice try though!
I know what projecting is. I am not projecting, I was discussing with another poster, this subject. I haven't criticized anyone, projected any thing onto anyone, or tried putting anyone through the ringer. But the usual crowd who come in only to pick apart other people are right on schedule. I said once and I will say it again, YOU eat what YOU like, and I will eat what I like. Enjoy your self.
SOOOOOO answering a question is projecting? I did not say anything about ANYONE else. I am telling what goes on with ME. Get over it.
See? You know nothing about the diet I USED to follow. You know, the one that allowed a certain amount of so called treats. It was THAT which led me to binging. Have a candy bar! after all IIFYM. But then I could NOT stop eating. JUNK was triggering me to binge. My hunger has normalized, and now I can eat and not stuff myself endlessly. So, again, IF this "IIFYM" thing works for you, great! But it is not the solution for everyone. I like feeling good, not like a hungry, bloated, sluggish beached whale. Therefore I eat what makes me feel good and what tastes good to me. And about my pounds lost, I have lost in inches, but not much in pounds.How did you people who eat so perfectly all the time end up here in the first place? Just wondering.
if you want to know, I came looking for ways to stop binging. And I was able to uncover a solution. I have not binged in about 4 months. And before you go there, my binges were sometimes on vegetables or fruit, sometimes peanut butter and potato chips, what ever was within arms reach really.
you need to lose 40lbs. in 4 months you've lost 5lbs. yet you say you came here solely to prevent binging.
seems legit.
maybe, just maybe, the reason you're binging is because of your overly restrictive diet.
Just because you have trigger foods, does not mean everyone does. Stop projecting.
I do not think you get the concept of projecting.
First post from you:Just because "it fits your macros" that does not mean it is nutritious or good for you in any way. Eating this way is just fine for those who would like to make room for this stuff. I don't get that much enjoyment from junk so I tend to not eat it often. A pack of pop tarts and pizza make me feel drained, bloated and irritable. I like to feel good after I eat.
Calling food people eat "junk" is pretty much criticizing.
i don't. i call food, "food". i might call McDonald's "fast food", but never "junk food". junk food is a pejorative and it is used to pass judgement on the quality of a food. obviously the food itself doesn't have feelings that can be hurt, but propagandists know the power of words and i won't concede this battle in the war against orthorexia.0 -
It's been awhile since I've posted something like this, but when the food shaming and demonizing threads creep up to certain levels (like recently) I do find it helpful to point out the other side of the story.
It's been 'a while', eh? Like what, a week?
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that cat doesnt look too happy with his plain bread.
he would be happier if there was nutella on it. And ice cream.0 -
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I agree with the girl who said that some people want to eat healthy and some people want to lose weight... I also agree with the people who can't moderate... I eat clean because it's worth it to me to pass up a little sugar or junk (which is aptly named by the way..) to get the results and health I want...0
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Yeah that *kitten* is disgusting..I ate that processed crap and it made me feel awful. I'd rather eat nutritious food everyday than eat unhealthy crap.0
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Then why you keep coming back to argue? If you don't care then why debate it! Geesh........ I said live and let live. about a hundred times throughout this thread. You just want to argue. I don't know why you chose me though. I didn't create the controversy.
Indeed.
One might say that you've been preaching it throughout this thread. Incessantly, even...
...in a thread titled, "Eating pizza, pop tarts, & ice cream while losing weight"...
How are you unable or unwilling to grasp the hypocrisy in this?0 -
I certainly didn't deprive myself when I was in weight loss mode (I tended to indulge in chocolate milk), but I did learn to really appreciate those foods that made me feel full but didn't break the caloric bank. Laying in bed and trying to sleep with a hungry stomach gets old.
I've since gone vegan, so sadly no more pop tarts for me - I will miss those, though! I may need to figure out how to make myself some vegan ones because I'm sure it can be done.
Check out chocolatecoveredkatie.com ... she has a recipe for that
i was just about to post that website lol i love her! i make her girl scout lara bars and holy **** they are so good!!0 -
I cant do moderation but that's just me personally I just have no will power so it cant be in the house lol
Me too. I have some foods that just can't be allowed in the house -- if they are, they get stashed by Boyfriend so I don't know they exist. Such foods include whole raw almonds and ice cream. At restaurants, french fries are my kryptonite.
Congratulations, OP, for being able to eat pizza pops. When Roommate brings them home and eats them the smell alone intoxicates me. I have to work really hard not to pout.0 -
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Most people call it junk food. You can call it whatever you like. Processed food, junk food, magical unicorn food, golden kibble. There are names for everything. I call it junk food as I have my entire life.
No. You are now grasping at straws. People who LIKE it call it junk too. LOL... nice try though!
I know what projecting is. I am not projecting, I was discussing with another poster, this subject. I haven't criticized anyone, projected any thing onto anyone, or tried putting anyone through the ringer. But the usual crowd who come in only to pick apart other people are right on schedule. I said once and I will say it again, YOU eat what YOU like, and I will eat what I like. Enjoy your self.
SOOOOOO answering a question is projecting? I did not say anything about ANYONE else. I am telling what goes on with ME. Get over it.
See? You know nothing about the diet I USED to follow. You know, the one that allowed a certain amount of so called treats. It was THAT which led me to binging. Have a candy bar! after all IIFYM. But then I could NOT stop eating. JUNK was triggering me to binge. My hunger has normalized, and now I can eat and not stuff myself endlessly. So, again, IF this "IIFYM" thing works for you, great! But it is not the solution for everyone. I like feeling good, not like a hungry, bloated, sluggish beached whale. Therefore I eat what makes me feel good and what tastes good to me. And about my pounds lost, I have lost in inches, but not much in pounds.How did you people who eat so perfectly all the time end up here in the first place? Just wondering.
if you want to know, I came looking for ways to stop binging. And I was able to uncover a solution. I have not binged in about 4 months. And before you go there, my binges were sometimes on vegetables or fruit, sometimes peanut butter and potato chips, what ever was within arms reach really.
you need to lose 40lbs. in 4 months you've lost 5lbs. yet you say you came here solely to prevent binging.
seems legit.
maybe, just maybe, the reason you're binging is because of your overly restrictive diet.
Just because you have trigger foods, does not mean everyone does. Stop projecting.
I do not think you get the concept of projecting.
First post from you:Just because "it fits your macros" that does not mean it is nutritious or good for you in any way. Eating this way is just fine for those who would like to make room for this stuff. I don't get that much enjoyment from junk so I tend to not eat it often. A pack of pop tarts and pizza make me feel drained, bloated and irritable. I like to feel good after I eat.
Calling food people eat "junk" is pretty much criticizing.
i don't. i call food, "food". i might call McDonald's "fast food", but never "junk food". junk food is a pejorative and it is used to pass judgement on the quality of a food. obviously the food itself doesn't have feelings that can be hurt, but propagandists know the power of words and i won't concede this battle in the war against orthorexia.
Language colors outlook.0 -
Reading the thread & I come across this. Hilarious & disturbing at the same time. :drinker:0 -
I would caution against processed foods. While you will lose weight if your caloric use exceeds your intake, the quality of your long term health will not improve. Ice cream and pop tarts everyday will not teach your body to burn fuel as efficiently as whole unprocessed foods. Additionally, consistently consuming foods like pop tarts and ice cream increase insulin resistance, a precursor to diabetes
That doesn't mean that you can't enjoy a sweet treat every now and then, but replacing your guilty pleasures with something a bit less guilty will help you long term. My former addiction? Mint chocolate chip ice cream every night religiously. I've replaced that with Greek yogurt (that comes in every flavor. Weekday breakfast? Irish oatmeal with a cup of raspberries.
I wasn't easy, but after some youtube videos and encouragement from some friends, I scaled back my relationship with processed food. I actually started seeing results, my energy levels went up, and I actually ate less. Once in a blue moon, I splurge and eat something totally indulgent. The previous commenters were correct, food shaming is out; however, I would strongly encourage you to be aware of the long term effects of pop tarts and ice cream every day. best wishes
Epic first post, welcome to the forums! :flowerforyou:
Absolute nonsense. I average between 140 - 200 g a day in sugar. As of last week my fasting blood sugar level was 71mg/dL. Sugar does NOT cause diabetes.
http://www.diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/causes/#type2
http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/causes/Causes_of_Diabetes_508.pdf
For those who typically don't read sources:
Risk Factors for Type 2 Diabetes
People who develop type 2 diabetes are more likely to have the following characteristics:
•age 45 or older
•overweight or obese
•physically inactive
•parent or sibling with diabetes
•family background that is African American, Alaska Native, American Indian, Asian American, Hispanic/ Latino, or Pacific Islander American
•history of giving birth to a baby weighing more than 9 pounds
•history of gestational diabetes
•high blood pressure—140/90 or above—or being treated for high blood pressure
•high-density lipoprotein (HDL), or good, cholesterol below 35 milligrams per deciliter (mg/dL), or a triglyceride level above 250 mg/dL
•polycystic ovary syndrome, also called PCOS
•prediabetes—an A1C level of 5.7 to 6.4 percent; a fasting plasma glucose test result of 100–125 mg/dL, called impaired fasting glucose; or a 2-hour oral glucose tolerance test result of 140–199, called impaired glucose tolerance
•acanthosis nigricans, a condition associated with insulin resistance, characterized by a dark, velvety rash around the neck or armpits
•history of CVD
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/diabetes/DS01121/DSECTION=risk-factors
http://www.diabetes.org/diabetes-basics/diabetes-myths/#x0 -
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Run everyday like I do. That's what I do and I can eat anything I want without it affecting my weight. It helps me maintain my weight.
You are a man. Just like there are weight-lifting rules for women, there are dietary suggestions for women. Since women have 2 to 3 times the amount of leptin circulating in their blood as men do AT THE SAME LEVEL OF BODY FAT, they are much more likely to end up with leptin-resistance as men if they are not very careful with their diet. Nature, it seems, wants women to be plump (for the purposes of reproduction, no doubt) while it wants men to be strong and lean. We have a different set of recommendations to follow.
Weight lifting rules for women????
Dietary suggestions for women????
Sara, I have no words. I think it's just time to hit the ignore button0 -
Then why you keep coming back to argue? If you don't care then why debate it! Geesh........ I said live and let live. about a hundred times throughout this thread. You just want to argue. I don't know why you chose me though. I didn't create the controversy.
Indeed.
One might say that you've been preaching it throughout this thread. Incessantly, even...
...in a thread titled, "Eating pizza, pop tarts, & ice cream while losing weight"...
How are you unable or unwilling to grasp the hypocrisy in this?
ikr?0 -
Stop using my picture without my permission please.0 -
I'm a woman. I'm 49. I'm not a special snowflake. I eat pretty much what I want--I wouldn't say "anything," but I sure as heck don't feel deprived (diary is open, BTW).Run everyday like I do. That's what I do and I can eat anything I want without it affecting my weight. It helps me maintain my weight.
You are a man. Just like there are weight-lifting rules for women, there are dietary suggestions for women. Since women have 2 to 3 times the amount of leptin circulating in their blood as men do AT THE SAME LEVEL OF BODY FAT, they are much more likely to end up with leptin-resistance as men if they are not very careful with their diet. Nature, it seems, wants women to be plump (for the purposes of reproduction, no doubt) while it wants men to be strong and lean. We have a different set of recommendations to follow.
I went from left hand pic to right hand pic (actually, I've lost another half pound or so since that one was taken) while including pizza, wine, burgers, ice cream, and PopTarts among my food choices. It was such a contrast to when I used to try to "be good" all the time (no red meat, very little alcohol or treats) that I started telling people I was on the Beef n' Booze Diet.
So, no, we don't all have a different set of recommendations to follow. I'm certainly not the only woman here who has lost weight while continuing to eat the treats they enjoy--several others have already posted in this thread (and probably more while I was composing this).
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Then why you keep coming back to argue? If you don't care then why debate it! Geesh........ I said live and let live. about a hundred times throughout this thread. You just want to argue. I don't know why you chose me though. I didn't create the controversy.
See? You know nothing about the diet I USED to follow. You know, the one that allowed a certain amount of so called treats. It was THAT which led me to binging. Have a candy bar! after all IIFYM. But then I could NOT stop eating. JUNK was triggering me to binge. My hunger has normalized, and now I can eat and not stuff myself endlessly. So, again, IF this "IIFYM" thing works for you, great! But it is not the solution for everyone. I like feeling good, not like a hungry, bloated, sluggish beached whale. Therefore I eat what makes me feel good and what tastes good to me.How did you people who eat so perfectly all the time end up here in the first place? Just wondering.
if you want to know, I came looking for ways to stop binging. And I was able to uncover a solution. I have not binged in about 4 months. And before you go there, my binges were sometimes on vegetables or fruit, sometimes peanut butter and potato chips, what ever was within arms reach really.
you need to lose 40lbs. in 4 months you've lost 5lbs. yet you say you came here solely to prevent binging.
seems legit.
maybe, just maybe, the reason you're binging is because of your overly restrictive diet.
so it's the foods fault that you ate it, therefore the food is bad???
how about your spoons, bowls, forks, and plates? do you blame them too??
IIFYM works for everybody. in fact, it is the underlying principle of EVERY successful and healthy diet. unless you do nothing but drink water for 40 days or get liposuction, if you're losing weight and not getting malnourished in the process, then you are following IIFYM even if you don't know.
clean, paleo, low carb, etc. are all "wrappers" that obscure the true cause of weight loss by adding a layer of complexity that includes all sorts of rules about what you can and cannot eat.
it's your preaching of those rules that causes this pushback. if you were to step back and understand that you really are following IIFYM and your food restrictions are a choice you've made, but not a necessity, i think you'd have a much healthier understanding of the whole process and a much better chance of avoiding binging or other problems down the road.
food restrictions which are based on nothing more than the idea that certain foods are good or bad, lead to shame and guilt when you fail to fully adhere to those high standards, which in turn can lead to real eating disorders.
I see you cant handle that someone else eats differently than you. Carry on. I almost thought there was an actual discussion going on. I see now it really just a means to attack as usual.
oh no. trust me. i don't care about you at all. not one single bit.
my comments, like most of the others on here are not aimed at you. your mind is closed and you are confident that what you believe is true. i would call that blissful ignorance, but that's really an irrelevant semantic point.
my comments are aimed at all of the lurkers who may see this thread. not all of them have their minds closed off and if my comments can prompt them to do further research before embracing unnecessary food restrictions, then i consider it worthwhile posting them here.
you can eat nothing but celery for the rest of your life and it would have ZERO effect on my life.
explaining my reasons for posting =/= arguing
i came into this thread expecting pizza, pop tarts, and ice cream and was confronted by your comments (and another woman's comments who is well know to be on an anti-carbohydrate crusade in these forums). these comments all deserve a rebuttal for the benefit of the lurkers. if you want to post in one of the paleo or clean or gluten free groups your opinions of these foods, you will NEVER find me in their arguing with your opinions. but these are public forums. the OP made a post. you disagreed with him and stated your views. i disagreed with you and stated my views. now you are upset that i had the nerve to state my views??? i'm confused. are you entitled to special privileges that i am not???0 -
Yeah that *kitten* is disgusting..I ate that processed crap and it made me feel awful. I'd rather eat nutritious food everyday than eat unhealthy crap.
I would rather eat food I like, which includes that *processed crap* as well as whole foods. Win/win.0 -
I eat broccoli and a grapefuit every day and am still able to lose weight. 0
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as long as you feel healthy, get the nutrients you need, have awesome levels/blood work and no health problems, then eat whatever you like :] i generally like to eat healthier foods, but today i had 2 slices of pizza my boss got for us. oh well lol, if it's tasty eat it. if you don't like it don't eat it. op was just trying to say that a lot of ppl think you can't eat that stuff, but really you can as long as it isn't a trigger food that can lead to binges, then try to stay away.0
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Stop using my picture without my permission please.
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See? You know nothing about the diet I USED to follow. You know, the one that allowed a certain amount of so called treats. It was THAT which led me to binging.
Negative, Ghost Rider, it was the lack of discipline and self control that led to the binging. Address the self control issue and the rest of weight loss is shockingly easy.
Actually, you are dead wrong. There are people with real problems where food is concerned. And believe it or not, there are ingredients in processed food that drives the appetite for many, (but perhaps not all). I removed the junk, and my problems were gone. Anytime I reintroduce the stuff, the same never ending hunger returns. You don't have to understand it. Not everyones body handles every thing the same way. Medication for example, one person can take sudafed and feel like a million bucks. Another might have a deadly allergic reaction, another might get a migraine from the stuff. The same goes for any thing that goes into the body. Some are gluten sensitive, some are not, some allergic to peanuts, some are not. I think you get the point.
Just because you have a food/beverage that makes you crave (insert food here) that craving doesn't control you hand pushing it into your mouth. We all have appetites that exceed our needs- why do you think we ended up here. ...lol
You said it best, actually- "I removed the junk and my problems were gone" See how cool it is when you take control of yourself? Nice going. It was your actions, not some condition that caused your issues. You still have your "condition" but not the problems, because you took control of yourself. Some people can control the cravings and some find it easier to keep the food out of the house... both ways work because you took control.0 -
I'm a woman. I'm 49. I'm not a special snowflake. I eat pretty much what I want--I wouldn't say "anything," but I sure as heck don't feel deprived (diary is open, BTW).Run everyday like I do. That's what I do and I can eat anything I want without it affecting my weight. It helps me maintain my weight.
You are a man. Just like there are weight-lifting rules for women, there are dietary suggestions for women. Since women have 2 to 3 times the amount of leptin circulating in their blood as men do AT THE SAME LEVEL OF BODY FAT, they are much more likely to end up with leptin-resistance as men if they are not very careful with their diet. Nature, it seems, wants women to be plump (for the purposes of reproduction, no doubt) while it wants men to be strong and lean. We have a different set of recommendations to follow.
I went from left hand pic to right hand pic (actually, I've lost another half pound or so since that one was taken) while including pizza, wine, burgers, ice cream, and PopTarts among my food choices. It was such a contrast to when I used to try to "be good" all the time (no red meat, very little alcohol or treats) that I started telling people I was on the Beef n' Booze Diet.
So, no, we don't all have a different set of recommendations to follow. I'm certainly not the only woman here who has lost weight while continuing to eat the treats they enjoy--several others have already posted in this thread (and probably more while I was composing this).
^^yep.
<--- 45 years old, eats ice cream every single day, eats pop tarts, cheesecake and candy every now and again, health markers excellent, bone density better than an average 20 year olds and kinda strong.
Works for me.0
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