Eating pizza, pop tarts, & ice cream while losing weight
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How did you people who eat so perfectly all the time end up here in the first place? Just wondering.
Through eating the way OP promotes. Do you realize that 100 calories extra (not even a half-cup of ice cream) over what your body requires (and my body happens to use calories very efficiently apparently) over the course of 10 years is a 100-pound gain. And dieting only exacerbates the problem. So we cleaned up our act and got serious about making healthy changes. And here we are---loving our healthy new way of achieving our goals.
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See? You know nothing about the diet I USED to follow. You know, the one that allowed a certain amount of so called treats. It was THAT which led me to binging. Have a candy bar! after all IIFYM. But then I could NOT stop eating. JUNK was triggering me to binge. My hunger has normalized, and now I can eat and not stuff myself endlessly. So, again, IF this "IIFYM" thing works for you, great! But it is not the solution for everyone. I like feeling good, not like a hungry, bloated, sluggish beached whale. Therefore I eat what makes me feel good and what tastes good to me.How did you people who eat so perfectly all the time end up here in the first place? Just wondering.
if you want to know, I came looking for ways to stop binging. And I was able to uncover a solution. I have not binged in about 4 months. And before you go there, my binges were sometimes on vegetables or fruit, sometimes peanut butter and potato chips, what ever was within arms reach really.
you need to lose 40lbs. in 4 months you've lost 5lbs. yet you say you came here solely to prevent binging.
seems legit.
maybe, just maybe, the reason you're binging is because of your overly restrictive diet.
so it's the foods fault that you ate it, therefore the food is bad???
how about your spoons, bowls, forks, and plates? do you blame them too??
IIFYM works for everybody. in fact, it is the underlying principle of EVERY successful and healthy diet. unless you do nothing but drink water for 40 days or get liposuction, if you're losing weight and not getting malnourished in the process, then you are following IIFYM even if you don't know.
clean, paleo, low carb, etc. are all "wrappers" that obscure the true cause of weight loss by adding a layer of complexity that includes all sorts of rules about what you can and cannot eat.
it's your preaching of those rules that causes this pushback. if you were to step back and understand that you really are following IIFYM and your food restrictions are a choice you've made, but not a necessity, i think you'd have a much healthier understanding of the whole process and a much better chance of avoiding binging or other problems down the road.
food restrictions which are based on nothing more than the idea that certain foods are good or bad, lead to shame and guilt when you fail to fully adhere to those high standards, which in turn can lead to real eating disorders.
I see you cant handle that someone else eats differently than you. Carry on. I almost thought there was an actual discussion going on. I see now it really just a means to attack as usual.0 -
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Not trying to pick on anyone but this is seen in some studies and seen all the time on these boards.How did you people who eat so perfectly all the time end up here in the first place? Just wondering.
if you want to know, I came looking for ways to stop binging. And I was able to uncover a solution. I have not binged in about 4 months. And before you go there, my binges were sometimes on vegetables or fruit, sometimes peanut butter and potato chips, what ever was within arms reach really.
you need to lose 40lbs. in 4 months you've lost 5lbs. yet you say you came here solely to prevent binging.
seems legit.
maybe, just maybe, the reason you're binging is because of your overly restrictive diet.
"All-or-Nothing Dieting & Eating Disorder Risk
In 1997, a general physician named Steven Bratman coined the term orthorexia nervosa [21], which he defines as, “an unhealthy obsession with eating healthy food.” It reminds me of the counterproductive dietary perfectionism I’ve seen among many athletes, trainers, and coaches. One of the fundamental pitfalls of dichotomizing foods as good or bad, or clean or dirty, is that it can form a destructive relationship with food. This isn’t just an empty claim; it’s been seen in research. Smith and colleagues found that flexible dieting was associated with the absence of overeating, lower bodyweight, and the absence of depression and anxiety [22]. They also found that a strict all-or-nothing approach to dieting was associated with overeating and increased bodyweight. Similarly, Stewart and colleagues found that rigid dieting was associated with symptoms of an eating disorder, mood disturbances, and anxiety [23]. Flexible dieting was not highly correlated with these qualities. Although these are observational study designs with self-reported data, anyone who spends enough time among fitness buffs knows that these findings are not off the mark." http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-nutrition/the-dirt-on-clean-eating/
^^^^This is total B.S.^^^^ An invention of those who are angry at others who prefer to nourish their bodies properly.
Fake psychology (by an M.D. no less) is so annoying.
there's nothing fake about it. you can't turn around in here some days without bumping into a young woman (and now more frequently, man) who has a full blown ED like anorexia or bulimia that started because they were told that eating "bad" foods would make them unhealthy. that paranoia about some foods has turned into fear of all foods because somewhere, at some time, some diet scammer has demonized EVERY food that exists.
carbs = bad
fat = bad
gluten = bad
processed food = bad
meat = bad
etc.
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No, OP promotes eating treats within your calorie goals. You weren't doing that, so you weren't eating the way OP promotes.How did you people who eat so perfectly all the time end up here in the first place? Just wondering.
Through eating the way OP promotes. Do you realize that 100 calories extra (not even a half-cup of ice cream) over what your body requires (and my body happens to use calories very efficiently apparently) over the course of 10 years is a 100-pound gain. And dieting only exacerbates the problem. So we cleaned up our act and got serious about making healthy changes. And here we are---loving our healthy new way of achieving our goals.0 -
See? You know nothing about the diet I USED to follow. You know, the one that allowed a certain amount of so called treats. It was THAT which led me to binging.
Negative, Ghost Rider, it was the lack of discipline and self control that led to the binging. Address the self control issue and the rest of weight loss is shockingly easy.0 -
I know what projecting is. I am not projecting, I was discussing with another poster, this subject. I haven't criticized anyone, projected any thing onto anyone, or tried putting anyone through the ringer. But the usual crowd who come in only to pick apart other people are right on schedule. I said once and I will say it again, YOU eat what YOU like, and I will eat what I like. Enjoy your self.
SOOOOOO answering a question is projecting? I did not say anything about ANYONE else. I am telling what goes on with ME. Get over it.
See? You know nothing about the diet I USED to follow. You know, the one that allowed a certain amount of so called treats. It was THAT which led me to binging. Have a candy bar! after all IIFYM. But then I could NOT stop eating. JUNK was triggering me to binge. My hunger has normalized, and now I can eat and not stuff myself endlessly. So, again, IF this "IIFYM" thing works for you, great! But it is not the solution for everyone. I like feeling good, not like a hungry, bloated, sluggish beached whale. Therefore I eat what makes me feel good and what tastes good to me. And about my pounds lost, I have lost in inches, but not much in pounds.How did you people who eat so perfectly all the time end up here in the first place? Just wondering.
if you want to know, I came looking for ways to stop binging. And I was able to uncover a solution. I have not binged in about 4 months. And before you go there, my binges were sometimes on vegetables or fruit, sometimes peanut butter and potato chips, what ever was within arms reach really.
you need to lose 40lbs. in 4 months you've lost 5lbs. yet you say you came here solely to prevent binging.
seems legit.
maybe, just maybe, the reason you're binging is because of your overly restrictive diet.
Just because you have trigger foods, does not mean everyone does. Stop projecting.
I do not think you get the concept of projecting.0 -
SOOOOOO answering a question is projecting? I did not say anything about ANYONE else. I am telling what goes on with ME. Get over it.
See? You know nothing about the diet I USED to follow. You know, the one that allowed a certain amount of so called treats. It was THAT which led me to binging. Have a candy bar! after all IIFYM. But then I could NOT stop eating. JUNK was triggering me to binge. My hunger has normalized, and now I can eat and not stuff myself endlessly. So, again, IF this "IIFYM" thing works for you, great! But it is not the solution for everyone. I like feeling good, not like a hungry, bloated, sluggish beached whale. Therefore I eat what makes me feel good and what tastes good to me. And about my pounds lost, I have lost in inches, but not much in pounds.How did you people who eat so perfectly all the time end up here in the first place? Just wondering.
if you want to know, I came looking for ways to stop binging. And I was able to uncover a solution. I have not binged in about 4 months. And before you go there, my binges were sometimes on vegetables or fruit, sometimes peanut butter and potato chips, what ever was within arms reach really.
you need to lose 40lbs. in 4 months you've lost 5lbs. yet you say you came here solely to prevent binging.
seems legit.
maybe, just maybe, the reason you're binging is because of your overly restrictive diet.
Just because you have trigger foods, does not mean everyone does. Stop projecting.
I do not think you get the concept of projecting.
Do YOU? It is not "projecting" to state that what apparently "works" for some will not work for her. That was an unkind thing to say to her.0 -
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All this talk on junk food and no mention of TOASTER STRUDELS (besides in the OP's hilarious pic)?
My level of disappointment warrants a raid on an entire bag of Hershey's Nuggets.0 -
How did you people who eat so perfectly all the time end up here in the first place? Just wondering.
Through eating the way OP promotes. Do you realize that 100 calories extra (not even a half-cup of ice cream) over what your body requires (and my body happens to use calories very efficiently apparently) over the course of 10 years is a 100-pound gain. And dieting only exacerbates the problem. So we cleaned up our act and got serious about making healthy changes. And here we are---loving our healthy new way of achieving our goals.
The OP promotes binging and overeating? You are readying something he has never written.0 -
Sure you shouldn't give up the foods you love, but eat them in moderation. Eating ice cream everyday is not moderation and is ridiculous, for anyone actually even someone not trying to lose weight.
Eating the foods you love in moderation is exactly what he recommended.
How is eating ice cream every day not moderation? Please. There are a lot of us on MFP who eat ice cream almost every day and lose weight and have great body composition.
Interestingly, if you pick out the most successful people on MFP in terms of achieving phenomenal body composition and health, they eat a lot of food people like you would consider "bad" or "unhealthy." People like Sara and Taso and Magerum are the absolute models of fitness success, and they eat things like ice cream daily.
Take your lessons from the people who display astonishing personal success and not what your preconceived ideas of "good" and "bad" food are.
I think whether it is moderation or not depends on what your calorie goal is.
If your calorie goal is 2800 or so a day, then sure, you could fit a serving of ice cream in there daily. If your calorie goal is 1400 or so, then eating a full serving of ice cream daily might make it difficult to get some of the micronutrients you need.
Just wanted to point out as well that success can be had both ways. Most of the people I know personally (not on MFP) who have the best body composition and health of the people around me, are the ones who don't really eat fast food/sugary sweets and the like.
I prefer to avoid them altogether since I find it easier and because I feel much more full and satisfied for the same amount of calories when it's primarily veggies/protein.0 -
I know what projecting is. I am not projecting, I was discussing with another poster, this subject. I haven't criticized anyone, projected any thing onto anyone, or tried putting anyone through the ringer. But the usual crowd who come in only to pick apart other people are right on schedule. I said once and I will say it again, YOU eat what YOU like, and I will eat what I like. Enjoy your self.
SOOOOOO answering a question is projecting? I did not say anything about ANYONE else. I am telling what goes on with ME. Get over it.
See? You know nothing about the diet I USED to follow. You know, the one that allowed a certain amount of so called treats. It was THAT which led me to binging. Have a candy bar! after all IIFYM. But then I could NOT stop eating. JUNK was triggering me to binge. My hunger has normalized, and now I can eat and not stuff myself endlessly. So, again, IF this "IIFYM" thing works for you, great! But it is not the solution for everyone. I like feeling good, not like a hungry, bloated, sluggish beached whale. Therefore I eat what makes me feel good and what tastes good to me. And about my pounds lost, I have lost in inches, but not much in pounds.How did you people who eat so perfectly all the time end up here in the first place? Just wondering.
if you want to know, I came looking for ways to stop binging. And I was able to uncover a solution. I have not binged in about 4 months. And before you go there, my binges were sometimes on vegetables or fruit, sometimes peanut butter and potato chips, what ever was within arms reach really.
you need to lose 40lbs. in 4 months you've lost 5lbs. yet you say you came here solely to prevent binging.
seems legit.
maybe, just maybe, the reason you're binging is because of your overly restrictive diet.
Just because you have trigger foods, does not mean everyone does. Stop projecting.
I do not think you get the concept of projecting.
First post from you:Just because "it fits your macros" that does not mean it is nutritious or good for you in any way. Eating this way is just fine for those who would like to make room for this stuff. I don't get that much enjoyment from junk so I tend to not eat it often. A pack of pop tarts and pizza make me feel drained, bloated and irritable. I like to feel good after I eat.
Calling food people eat "junk" is pretty much criticizing.0 -
I like pizza, poptarts, and ice cream. I'm going to try combining them.0
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See? You know nothing about the diet I USED to follow. You know, the one that allowed a certain amount of so called treats. It was THAT which led me to binging. Have a candy bar! after all IIFYM. But then I could NOT stop eating. JUNK was triggering me to binge. My hunger has normalized, and now I can eat and not stuff myself endlessly. So, again, IF this "IIFYM" thing works for you, great! But it is not the solution for everyone. I like feeling good, not like a hungry, bloated, sluggish beached whale. Therefore I eat what makes me feel good and what tastes good to me.How did you people who eat so perfectly all the time end up here in the first place? Just wondering.
if you want to know, I came looking for ways to stop binging. And I was able to uncover a solution. I have not binged in about 4 months. And before you go there, my binges were sometimes on vegetables or fruit, sometimes peanut butter and potato chips, what ever was within arms reach really.
you need to lose 40lbs. in 4 months you've lost 5lbs. yet you say you came here solely to prevent binging.
seems legit.
maybe, just maybe, the reason you're binging is because of your overly restrictive diet.
so it's the foods fault that you ate it, therefore the food is bad???
how about your spoons, bowls, forks, and plates? do you blame them too??
IIFYM works for everybody. in fact, it is the underlying principle of EVERY successful and healthy diet. unless you do nothing but drink water for 40 days or get liposuction, if you're losing weight and not getting malnourished in the process, then you are following IIFYM even if you don't know.
clean, paleo, low carb, etc. are all "wrappers" that obscure the true cause of weight loss by adding a layer of complexity that includes all sorts of rules about what you can and cannot eat.
it's your preaching of those rules that causes this pushback. if you were to step back and understand that you really are following IIFYM and your food restrictions are a choice you've made, but not a necessity, i think you'd have a much healthier understanding of the whole process and a much better chance of avoiding binging or other problems down the road.
food restrictions which are based on nothing more than the idea that certain foods are good or bad, lead to shame and guilt when you fail to fully adhere to those high standards, which in turn can lead to real eating disorders.
I see you cant handle that someone else eats differently than you. Carry on. I almost thought there was an actual discussion going on. I see now it really just a means to attack as usual.
oh no. trust me. i don't care about you at all. not one single bit.
my comments, like most of the others on here are not aimed at you. your mind is closed and you are confident that what you believe is true. i would call that blissful ignorance, but that's really an irrelevant semantic point.
my comments are aimed at all of the lurkers who may see this thread. not all of them have their minds closed off and if my comments can prompt them to do further research before embracing unnecessary food restrictions, then i consider it worthwhile posting them here.
you can eat nothing but celery for the rest of your life and it would have ZERO effect on my life.0 -
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All this talk on junk food and no mention of TOASTER STRUDELS (besides in the OP's hilarious pic)?
My level of disappointment warrants a raid on an entire bag of Hershey's Nuggets.
you HAVE to cook them though, I can just grab a poptart pack and hop in my truck (13 city, 18 hwy, bought before gas prices sucked) and go to work. I've got to put the strudels in the toaster...ice the 'tards, then wait for them to cool down. Ain't nobody got time for that...0 -
I like pizza, poptarts, and ice cream. I'm going to try combining them.
I am sure you can do something with pop tarts and this:
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