Got really mad at the supermarket today

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  • arewethereyet
    arewethereyet Posts: 18,702 Member
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    I thought I was pretty educated back then and made better decisions than most of my friends.......but if I could give 1 bit of advise to young moms it would be:

    STICK TO YOUR GUNS!! You are right feeding them healthy stuff.

    I wish I knew the trick of adding purreed cauliflower to mac and cheese.....:laugh:
  • michlingle
    michlingle Posts: 797 Member
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    My mom was a "mean mom" too :love: But she did it out of love. Whether it came to food or anything else, bargaining was not an option. I cannot tell you how often I hear parents bargaining with their children. Example, "you can get that candy only if you do x, y, and/or z" Or "If you sit quietly I will buy that for you." Really? As if sitting quietly equates to putting toxic food on the table? I think that's total bs. All my mom had to do was look at me and I knew to put what I wanted back on the shelf. Healthy eating is taught and it's the parent's responsibility to model that behavior as with any other aspect of child rearing. Oh, and it's not the school's responsibility either. As a teacher, I have learned that what happens at home trumps most lessons I teach in class. It's sad that more parents are setting their children up for failure in life by turning them into unhealthy adults. Ultimately, obese people don't get the same pay in the workplace and are often looked over for jobs. Of course there are the exceptions, but unfortunately it's probably more the norm.
  • Jenbabe402
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    I'm going grocery shopping tonight and now I won't be able to stop looking in other people's carts!!! I'm nosy anyway, though.
  • amandadaisylotus
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    Slightly off topic but to address the ignorance issue about nutrition. Personally I think there should be a class on nutrition starting in middle school. Hell, throw a few lessons in there during science portion in elementary school! They'll teach us to care for empty egg shells and how to balance a check book, use the internet for research, all 50 states and their capitals (Which we'll forget in three months) but they wont teach us to take care of our own bodies.

    But of course... nutrition isn' t on the FCAT. -_-
  • kgrutch
    kgrutch Posts: 223
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    i have 3 kids, ages 15, 14 and 3. when the older ones were in the toddler stage i would given them small amounts of everything, they were not allowed seconds of anything unless the plate was clean, if they chose not to eat the veggies, i wrapped it up until later when they said they were hungry again, then brought out the plate. of course for a while they were not too happy but they learned that this was not going away (even if was for breakfast the next day). they are now great eaters and even as young kids experimented with all types of foods, ethnic cuisine. my 3 year old is starting to get to the picky stage and i have started her with the plate technique. yesterday she went for 6 hours without eating until she finally finished her veggie soup but she did eat it. they will not starve. a little bit of hassle now will eliminate years of poor eating habits.
  • JennCh
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    Store brand white bread: $1.29
    Natures Way whole grain bread : $3.29

    Box of mac and cheese: $1
    ww pasta : $2.59
    shred cheddar $2.59
    milk: $2.99


    My grocery bill went up $100 a week when I started to eat healthier. And that was on a good week.

    So true. Eating healthier foods is much more expensive than buying the junk. Thankfully my husband and I are able to afford the healthier choices, which in turn has allowed us to educate our kids about nutrition. We've also been fortunate to be able to make a commitment to sustainability, which means making further choices about the foods we consume. Not everyone can make the choices we have. However, this does not mean one cannot make better choices than soda and mac and cheese. Just don't buy those products. Take the money and sink it into some fruits and some veggies. Doing this, though, takes commitment, and a lot of people don't want to do this.
  • courtney_love2001
    courtney_love2001 Posts: 1,468 Member
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    On a positive note, they have added a nutrition class to our required classes in med school just this year. That way, we will be truly informed so that we can help everyone better. Physicians need to take a bigger stand when overweight people come into the office. Perhaps all it would take to change someone's views would be for their doc to mention that they have gained 30 pounds in the last year...
  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
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    i think you are being really judgemental. that is not a full cart of groceries for family for a day, let alone a week. those could possibly be snacks or replenishing the pantry or for special occasions (like, i don't know, NEW YEAR'S EVE). you have no idea what this women has at home in the manner of fresh fruits or veggies, or what her child is eating.

    This makes me LOL. I guess they got obese on all those veggies and fruit she has at home huh?

    i was reading through all the posts, and saw this one, and feel that I have to point out that it is totally ignorant to not think outside the box and "lol" at the idea that the women may be obese for other reasons and the child may be obese for other reasons. i know food plays a part in it, but people have thyroid problems and **** too. and it was new years eve, that soda was probably for a party, OR there could've been a sale on and they may not drink a can a day.

    otherwise, back to reading all the posts!
  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
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    Slightly off topic but to address the ignorance issue about nutrition. Personally I think there should be a class on nutrition starting in middle school. Hell, throw a few lessons in there during science portion in elementary school! They'll teach us to care for empty egg shells and how to balance a check book, use the internet for research, all 50 states and their capitals (Which we'll forget in three months) but they wont teach us to take care of our own bodies.

    But of course... nutrition isn' t on the FCAT. -_-

    i think they should teach more on commercialism (to add to that) and the negative qualities of capitalism. even fat free and sugar free products are so bad for our health, we all know this right? how many of you still eat those products? i am not saying everyone does, but i would place a bet on the fact that at least one person on this thread had a diet soda today, or one person on this thread had fat reduced chips, etc.
  • BamaRose0107
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    Slightly off topic but to address the ignorance issue about nutrition. Personally I think there should be a class on nutrition starting in middle school. Hell, throw a few lessons in there during science portion in elementary school! They'll teach us to care for empty egg shells and how to balance a check book, use the internet for research, all 50 states and their capitals (Which we'll forget in three months) but they wont teach us to take care of our own bodies.

    But of course... nutrition isn' t on the FCAT. -_-

    i think they should teach more on commercialism (to add to that) and the negative qualities of capitalism. even fat free and sugar free products are so bad for our health, we all know this right? how many of you still eat those products? i am not saying everyone does, but i would place a bet on the fact that at least one person on this thread had a diet soda today, or one person on this thread had fat reduced chips, etc.


    I had a diet soda today and I am proud of it! However I used to drink a six pack a day of regular mnt dew by myself. I think my one diet soda is a little better.
  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
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    Slightly off topic but to address the ignorance issue about nutrition. Personally I think there should be a class on nutrition starting in middle school. Hell, throw a few lessons in there during science portion in elementary school! They'll teach us to care for empty egg shells and how to balance a check book, use the internet for research, all 50 states and their capitals (Which we'll forget in three months) but they wont teach us to take care of our own bodies.

    But of course... nutrition isn' t on the FCAT. -_-

    i think they should teach more on commercialism (to add to that) and the negative qualities of capitalism. even fat free and sugar free products are so bad for our health, we all know this right? how many of you still eat those products? i am not saying everyone does, but i would place a bet on the fact that at least one person on this thread had a diet soda today, or one person on this thread had fat reduced chips, etc.


    I had a diet soda today and I am proud of it! However I used to drink a six pack a day of regular mnt dew by myself. I think my one diet soda is a little better.

    if you are fat to obese (keep in mind this does not always lead to health complications), and drinking regular mountain dew...(even though it is six of them!) is this worse,similar, or better to drinking diet soda in terms of nutrition?

    (p.s. i am drinking a coke zero right now, just want you to think about it)
  • BamaRose0107
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    Slightly off topic but to address the ignorance issue about nutrition. Personally I think there should be a class on nutrition starting in middle school. Hell, throw a few lessons in there during science portion in elementary school! They'll teach us to care for empty egg shells and how to balance a check book, use the internet for research, all 50 states and their capitals (Which we'll forget in three months) but they wont teach us to take care of our own bodies.

    But of course... nutrition isn' t on the FCAT. -_-

    i think they should teach more on commercialism (to add to that) and the negative qualities of capitalism. even fat free and sugar free products are so bad for our health, we all know this right? how many of you still eat those products? i am not saying everyone does, but i would place a bet on the fact that at least one person on this thread had a diet soda today, or one person on this thread had fat reduced chips, etc.


    I had a diet soda today and I am proud of it! However I used to drink a six pack a day of regular mnt dew by myself. I think my one diet soda is a little better.

    if you are fat to obese (keep in mind this does not always lead to health complications), and drinking regular mountain dew...(even though it is six of them!) is this worse,similar, or better to drinking diet soda in terms of nutrition?

    (p.s. i am drinking a coke zero right now, just want you to think about it)
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    I still think one diet is better than six regular no matter what size a person is. I was merely saying that I feel I am doing well by having one diet soda compared to when I was drinking the mountain dew. I did not know it was going to be taken so seriously.
  • foxyforce
    foxyforce Posts: 3,078 Member
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    Slightly off topic but to address the ignorance issue about nutrition. Personally I think there should be a class on nutrition starting in middle school. Hell, throw a few lessons in there during science portion in elementary school! They'll teach us to care for empty egg shells and how to balance a check book, use the internet for research, all 50 states and their capitals (Which we'll forget in three months) but they wont teach us to take care of our own bodies.

    But of course... nutrition isn' t on the FCAT. -_-

    i think they should teach more on commercialism (to add to that) and the negative qualities of capitalism. even fat free and sugar free products are so bad for our health, we all know this right? how many of you still eat those products? i am not saying everyone does, but i would place a bet on the fact that at least one person on this thread had a diet soda today, or one person on this thread had fat reduced chips, etc.


    I had a diet soda today and I am proud of it! However I used to drink a six pack a day of regular mnt dew by myself. I think my one diet soda is a little better.

    if you are fat to obese (keep in mind this does not always lead to health complications), and drinking regular mountain dew...(even though it is six of them!) is this worse,similar, or better to drinking diet soda in terms of nutrition?

    (p.s. i am drinking a coke zero right now, just want you to think about it)
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    I still think one diet is better than six regular no matter what size a person is. I was merely saying that I feel I am doing well by having one diet soda compared to when I was drinking the mountain dew. I did not know it was going to be taken so seriously.

    i am just saying it is something to think about. the diet market is huge. i think we are better off eating the full fat products in moderation, though i am not a nutritionist (and by nutritionist i don't mean someone who just knows what will effect weight loss, i am talking how these chemicals in food are effecting us).
  • lotusfromthemud
    lotusfromthemud Posts: 5,335 Member
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    Slightly off topic but to address the ignorance issue about nutrition. Personally I think there should be a class on nutrition starting in middle school. Hell, throw a few lessons in there during science portion in elementary school! They'll teach us to care for empty egg shells and how to balance a check book, use the internet for research, all 50 states and their capitals (Which we'll forget in three months) but they wont teach us to take care of our own bodies.

    But of course... nutrition isn' t on the FCAT. -_-

    i think they should teach more on commercialism (to add to that) and the negative qualities of capitalism. even fat free and sugar free products are so bad for our health, we all know this right? how many of you still eat those products? i am not saying everyone does, but i would place a bet on the fact that at least one person on this thread had a diet soda today, or one person on this thread had fat reduced chips, etc.

    I think people should try to become more aware of where their food comes from and who's controlling it. I use my rebellious tendencies to encourage myself to "stick it to the man" by eating healthier.

    But, in all seriousness, some of the origin of our food is pretty sinister, and it is controlled by major corporations who put their profit margin before anybody's health.

    Crawling down off of my soapbox now.
  • BamaRose0107
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    Slightly off topic but to address the ignorance issue about nutrition. Personally I think there should be a class on nutrition starting in middle school. Hell, throw a few lessons in there during science portion in elementary school! They'll teach us to care for empty egg shells and how to balance a check book, use the internet for research, all 50 states and their capitals (Which we'll forget in three months) but they wont teach us to take care of our own bodies.

    But of course... nutrition isn' t on the FCAT. -_-

    i think they should teach more on commercialism (to add to that) and the negative qualities of capitalism. even fat free and sugar free products are so bad for our health, we all know this right? how many of you still eat those products? i am not saying everyone does, but i would place a bet on the fact that at least one person on this thread had a diet soda today, or one person on this thread had fat reduced chips, etc.


    I had a diet soda today and I am proud of it! However I used to drink a six pack a day of regular mnt dew by myself. I think my one diet soda is a little better.

    if you are fat to obese (keep in mind this does not always lead to health complications), and drinking regular mountain dew...(even though it is six of them!) is this worse,similar, or better to drinking diet soda in terms of nutrition?

    (p.s. i am drinking a coke zero right now, just want you to think about it)
    [/quot


    I still think one diet is better than six regular no matter what size a person is. I was merely saying that I feel I am doing well by having one diet soda compared to when I was drinking the mountain dew. I did not know it was going to be taken so seriously.

    i am just saying it is something to think about. the diet market is huge. i think we are better off eating the full fat products in moderation, though i am not a nutritionist (and by nutritionist i don't mean someone who just knows what will effect weight loss, i am talking how these chemicals in food are effecting us).


    I respect your veiws but I think I will go with what my doctor says is best for me and my health issues. Thanks
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
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    this has gotten a little off topic I believe. It's not about someone's nutrition. I could care less if an adults eats healthy or not (unless I have some other kind of vested interest in it, like friendship, love, family...etc.) but I DO care about someone not giving their child nutrition.

    I'll say this about your food costs.
    Yes, healthy food is more expensive, then again, how much less will you spend on medical costs later in life. I dare say it evens out, people spend tens of thousands of dollars a year in health care costs related to obesity, cardiovascular issues, pulmonary issues, circulation issues, organ problems, orthopedic issues...etc. the list goes on and on.

    Add to that the fact that you are healthier, and more active, and probably much happier and have better self esteem, and I think you come out ahead.

    when your child needs to have their gall bladder removed at 18 because they went on a liquid diet and destroyed it, that's going to cost you and them a lot, not only in terms of money, but also in future mental issues.
  • BroiledNotFried
    BroiledNotFried Posts: 446 Member
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    I look at other people's carts, too! You are what you eat.

    But, I also have kids. Niether are anywhere near overweight. But, I constantly harp on them to eat fruit and veggies. They eat enough fat and ice cream, just being kids.

    What's even worse, to me, than giving kids (who need a fair amount of fat in thier diet) food..... I means, most kids will cut off eating when they are super full....it's when I see the parents smoking in their cars and in their homes. Kids can't escape the smoke. This should be child abuse.
  • michlingle
    michlingle Posts: 797 Member
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    Slightly off topic but to address the ignorance issue about nutrition. Personally I think there should be a class on nutrition starting in middle school. Hell, throw a few lessons in there during science portion in elementary school! They'll teach us to care for empty egg shells and how to balance a check book, use the internet for research, all 50 states and their capitals (Which we'll forget in three months) but they wont teach us to take care of our own bodies.

    But of course... nutrition isn' t on the FCAT. -_-

    Actually they do, it's called health class. Most schools have them. Doesn't work, obviously. It's not the school's responsibility. It's the parents. Why don't people get this? Ah well, keep on keepin on! Just for the record, I still remember my state capitals.
  • TCASMEY
    TCASMEY Posts: 1,405 Member
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    Actually they do, it's called health class. Most schools have them. Doesn't work, obviously. It's not the school's responsibility. It's the parents. Why don't people get this? Ah well, keep on keepin on! Just for the record, I still remember my state capitals.
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    There are parents out there known as "risk parents'.....basically parents that are so lacking in mental, social and emotional maturity that they can barely take care of themselves let a lone children. They are the parents that no matter how many times you tell them they should serve fruit and vegetables to their children they cannot remember to do it.

    Saying that in this day and age every parent should be able to educate themselves on nutrition is giving some people a lot of credit. Every talk to a kid who has a piece of cardboard on the floor to sleep on because there is not enough money for a mattress. Kids who do not have books at home because mom or dad cannot read so the kids are never read to. Yes obesity is a national crisis but some of these children come from homes with so many other issues going on at home that some of them are lucky that their parents remember to feed them. Spend some time in a crisis nursery or talking to people who work there on a regular basis. Some kids are in for a rough life from day one....do not judge me until you walk a day in my shoes.

    It is easy to judge without knowing all the details but you may change you may find it harder to judge if you know all the details.

    A closed mind is a terrible thing.
  • TCASMEY
    TCASMEY Posts: 1,405 Member
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    Actually they do, it's called health class. Most schools have them. Doesn't work, obviously. It's not the school's responsibility. It's the parents. Why don't people get this? Ah well, keep on keepin on! Just for the record, I still remember my state capitals.
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    Yes but do you remember what you learned about nutrition in health class.

    And yes I can still recite all fifty states in alphabetical order.