Do you think there's a masculinity crisis in America?
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After reading a guys post from yesterday "needing advice not related to fitness" I I would say yes. This was a 30 yr old man asking for advice on how to get himself to love again and how he doesn't know if he'll ever find it again.
I wanted to pull his man card............yes there is a masculinity crisis! Grow a pair and start acting like men again. Sweep a woman off her feet...........treat her like a queen............and reap the rewards!!! There's a few details to work in the middle too but c'mon guy's!!!!
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Um...Who? My oldest son is 15 and he thinks that "One Direction" which is the group in the picture is dumb. He makes fun of boy bands.
Men don't love boy groups. Your argument is based on a false premise.
But I would argue that they often try to imitate them. Not boy groups per say, but prominent male figures in pop culture.
Anyway, if girls swoon over boyish lads then a boy who imitates them is not un-masculine, he's smart. He's providing his target market with the product they desire.
Oh wow, if your son is that way then the whole world must be like him. Topic is closed now. Everyone, he has the answer.0 -
I am a strong believer that the man leads the household but is not the tyrant of the household. A smart man involves is woman in each discision while making the final choice. A smart man honors his woman as part of him. Just my idea. Before my wife passed we were very happy, very in love and this is how our house worked. We had ups and downs but it worked well for us. I was president of the house and she was vicepresident. Now as for the rest. Cant stand this metrosexual crap. Men should be men.
See, I can't stand men who think that the ownership of a penis gives them the right to tell me what to do.0 -
I totally agree!!!
My last boyfriend called me crying at 3am because he died his hair and it turned out the wrong shade!
Another boyfriend called me because he didn't know how to deal with the fact he locked his keys in his car. I drove 45 minutes away and called the locksmith and when the locksmith arrived my boyfriend cried "Please don't call my mom!"
Both men I am talking about were in 23 and 27 years old.
There is a reason I am single. I am sick of always making decisions and if there were a fight not one of my exes would have even stood up for me. Because a group of men were harassing us and my boyfriend ran (about 1/4 of mile) back to the car and dove in and locked it. Left me with a group of 15 mean circling me and i had to defend myself.
I have also had men refuse to open the door for me. I have even had doors slammed on me. I always open doors for people (men, women) because it is polite. But men NEVER open or hold the door for me.
And a man in skinny jeans is not a man!!! And yes, these men usually have camel toe. MEN SHOULD NEVER HAVE CAMEL TOE!!!
That felt great to get off my chest. LOL THANK YOU!0 -
Boy bands were always and still are the subject of derision. Not universal derision. Nothing is ever universal, but consensus derision.
Men don't love boy groups. Your argument is based on a false premise.
Yeah...cause these guys are sooooooo masculine:These are the guys that young girls think are hot these days...
lol does that answer your question?
...and your grandparents generation:
The difference is that yeah girls loved those guys back in the day but most men didnt try to act and dress like them. Men hated boy groups back then and now men love boy groups. Its not the same.
I know many who love One Direction, Beiber, Katy Perry, and many more. Men back in the day hated this kind of music.
People often romanticize the time when they were adolescents and point the finger at the current generation. This is often selective memory. This is the kind of thing that has my mom going on and on about how slutty teen girls are today but forgetting that she was once a pregnant teen girl. "But, but, that was different. We weren't pursuing guys. It just happened." Uh huh I say.0 -
HAHAHAHA Yes!I think both/all genders need to get over themselves and be accepting but...
...I'm just gonna wait for the fireworks.0 -
These are the guys that young girls think are hot these days...
lol does that answer your question?
How are they any different from New Kids on the Block or even the Beetles with their long hair and fancy suits or even Elvis?? Every generation has their teen idols. This is such a dumb thread and I should have never entered this black hole, but I got sucked in. I have a lot more to say, but I am not gonna waste anymore time on idiotic banter.0 -
Yeah...cause these guys are sooooooo masculine:These are the guys that young girls think are hot these days...
For real! You can say it for every generation, especially celebrities. They are supposed to be feminine so teens aren't intimidated. That is the point.
lol does that answer your question?
...and your grandparents generation:0 -
Yes. And in Canada as well.
The end.0 -
Are you saying I have the only teen son with good music taste? Sweet!
Um...Who? My oldest son is 15 and he thinks that "One Direction" which is the group in the picture is dumb. He makes fun of boy bands.
Men don't love boy groups. Your argument is based on a false premise.
But I would argue that they often try to imitate them. Not boy groups per say, but prominent male figures in pop culture.
Anyway, if girls swoon over boyish lads then a boy who imitates them is not un-masculine, he's smart. He's providing his target market with the product they desire.
Oh wow, if your son is that way then the whole world must be like him. Topic is closed now. Everyone, he has the answer.0 -
Depending on the age group, yes.0
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Bingo. You've got it right. No need to continue. Everyone always thinks that things have changed so much when in reality they haven't.These are the guys that young girls think are hot these days...
lol does that answer your question?
How are they any different from New Kids on the Block or even the Beetles with their long hair and fancy suits or even Elvis?? Every generation has their teen idols. This is such a dumb thread and I should have never entered this black hole, but I got sucked in. I have a lot more to say, but I am not gonna waste anymore time on idiotic banter.0 -
YES! I can only hope and teach my son to not be a sissy b itch.0
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Yeah...cause these guys are sooooooo masculine:These are the guys that young girls think are hot these days...
Those aren't guys, they are boys.
For real! You can say it for every generation, especially celebrities. They are supposed to be feminine so teens aren't intimidated. That is the point.
lol does that answer your question?
...and your grandparents generation:0 -
Honestly: Do you think there's a masculinity crisis in America? Are more men allowing women to dominate relationships?
Yes, it is all the soy that is in the packaged foods. Real Talk. It causes estrogen dominance in men and lowers testosterone.
I am glad I have a manly man that likes to eat meat, eggs, vegetables and fruit. And NO packaged foods, so NO SOY0 -
I am a strong believer that the man leads the household but is not the tyrant of the household. A smart man involves is woman in each discision while making the final choice. A smart man honors his woman as part of him. Just my idea. Before my wife passed we were very happy, very in love and this is how our house worked. We had ups and downs but it worked well for us. I was president of the house and she was vicepresident. Now as for the rest. Cant stand this metrosexual crap. Men should be men.
See, I can't stand men who think that the ownership of a penis gives them the right to tell me what to do.
Nor can I. IMO that's a bigger sign of not being a man than anything.0 -
I don't think there is a masculinity problem in America. I think there is an maturity problem.
There really is a huge maturity problem, especially in the current teenage generation. I seriously hope I die before I'm forced to retire because these kids won't be able to take care of jack **** when it comes their time and lord knows with this economy I'll never be able to stock away enough cash to not worry about it.
Although I think there is a slight masculinity problem nowadays. I've never heard of boys in school sharing each other's jeans and shoes. There are kids that have more shoes than my ex-wife, that's crazy. When I was a teenager I had my school dress shoes and a pair of tennis shoes, two pair that's it.0 -
Honestly: Do you think there's a masculinity crisis in America? Are more men allowing women to dominate relationships?
First of all LOL
Second of all- if there's a male crisis I wouldn't think it's who "dominates" the relationship, it would be lack of role models leading to more and more dead beat dads, abuse, lack of responsibility etc
Personally my man is super sexy and masculine, but he doesn't dominate our relationship(and good luck w/ that) We are partners, there are roles that we both fill and power is shared, not 100% balanced, but there is give and take.0 -
I am a strong believer that the man leads the household but is not the tyrant of the household. A smart man involves is woman in each discision while making the final choice. A smart man honors his woman as part of him. Just my idea. Before my wife passed we were very happy, very in love and this is how our house worked. We had ups and downs but it worked well for us. I was president of the house and she was vicepresident. Now as for the rest. Cant stand this metrosexual crap. Men should be men.
This is what the OP is saying and I so agree with. I think the thing is that when people say they don't like the girly guys, people get mad. Many women on here say they don't like the manly man. We all are allowed to like whoever we want, choose who we want to be friends with, and all have free speech even if we all don't agree. I got mad because some insecure unhappy women started attacking the OP, me, and some other nice people for their unattacking comments and preferences. Women post how they hate short guys or fat guys and no one seems to care but when someone says anything about hipsters everyone goes crazy. I will tell you something about hipsters, they hate everything and are always upset or wanting to boycott corporations alot so they have no right to say anything and also, how is it disrespectful for saying they are like women? They know they are and I have hear some say they dont believe in male or female so they already know this. I dont like them and no one is going to force me to. I am free and will like whoever I want so whoever has a problem with it can bite me.0 -
These are the guys that young girls think are hot these days...
lol does that answer your question?
Uh...... I like NKOTB, which is the equivalent, at age 10. So no, that answers nothing.0 -
No, there is no such thing as a "masculinity crisis."0
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Exactly. 50/50 doesn't mean there is a lack of masculinity any more than a lack of femininity on the female's part. Neither should dominate as domination does not a healthy relationship make.Honestly: Do you think there's a masculinity crisis in America? Are more men allowing women to dominate relationships?
First of all LOL
Second of all- if there's a male crisis I wouldn't think it's who "dominates" the relationship, it would be lack of role models leading to more and more dead beat dads, abuse, lack of responsibility etc
Personally my man is super sexy and masculine, but he doesn't dominate our relationship(and good luck w/ that) We are partners, there are roles that we both fill and power is shared, not 100% balanced, but there is give and take.0 -
I am a strong believer that the man leads the household but is not the tyrant of the household. A smart man involves is woman in each discision while making the final choice. A smart man honors his woman as part of him. Just my idea. Before my wife passed we were very happy, very in love and this is how our house worked. We had ups and downs but it worked well for us. I was president of the house and she was vicepresident. Now as for the rest. Cant stand this metrosexual crap. Men should be men.
See, I can't stand men who think that the ownership of a penis gives them the right to tell me what to do.
Amen, sister. If my partner of 10 yrs started trying to tell me what to do - based solely on the fact that he is "the man" - this relationship would be over. He would HATE it if I felt controlled or inferior to him.
This isn't 1955, for god sakes.Women have fought long and hard for equality...there is NO reason men should dominate women. Sadly, in 2012, for many people, the "masculine" ideal is some sort of muscular he-man, who "rules the roost." Can we get in the 21st century, already? A "real" man is a guy who respects women and sees them as his equal, in my book.0 -
Edit: Disregard....misread the post. I agree.These are the guys that young girls think are hot these days...
lol does that answer your question?
Uh...... I like NKOTB, which is the equivalent, at age 10. So no, that answers nothing.0 -
manscaping.The issue is related to eye brow and chest waxing.
I'll never understand it. I mean I get it when you're really hairy. But those Jersey Shore eyebrows? EWWWW0 -
Someone From Every Generation, Ever, said:
..there really is a huge <blank> problem, especially in the current teenage generation.
Always.0 -
manscaping.The issue is related to eye brow and chest waxing.
I'll never understand it. I mean I get it when you're really hairy. But those Jersey Shore eyebrows? EWWWW
I'm not against a little trimming here and there.0 -
not quoting the boy group conversation because it's too long but.
I can't help but notice you listed Katy Perry as a boy group.
Men love Katy Perry for two reason, and it aint her music. I don't even know what the hell she sings.
But it's the same reason we love Beyonce, and the others like her. All the music is crap. But the google image search is nice.0 -
Honestly: Do you think there's a masculinity crisis in America? Are more men allowing women to dominate relationships?
Why does anyone have to dominate anyone? Why can't it be equal in a relationship? Your post is kind of scary sounds like you might have a controlling type of nature and I hope your not treating your gf or wife bad! I'm sorry if I am wrong with my conclusion but its the way you worded it.... "Allowing women" as though us women should ALLOW a man to hold the reins in the relationship. I'm sorry but the females of the past made it so I was "ALLOWED" to vote, wear clothes that no longer cover my ankles and so I don't have to be beat by a man and deal with it. They made it so I am "ALLOWED" to have my own say in a relationship and can choose whether or not I can work anywhere else but the kitchen making him meals.... I am SO grateful that those women who went through so much to "ALLOW" me these rights and options. In the end they did not control my future but they gave me choices! I could choose to let a man "ALLOW" me to let him have the reigns or I can choose equality! I choose equality. I don't need a man telling me what to do in the relationship and I don't need a man to provide for me.
This is the very first post I have ever read that truly ticked me off.0 -
Yes! I'm a girl obviously but I still think the men should be the head of the household. I mean girl power is great and everything but guys are dominant in a relationship, sorry!0
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