men, does the "I'll kick your *kitten*" male/male trump card...

How sad. Unfortunately size and strength do not equate safety. Speaking from considerable experience, you simply cant predict what will happen in a fight and they're rarely fair. Experience and intelligence count for more in a confrontation than does brute strength. If I had to choose, I'd take an experienced fighter over the big guy with little or no experience any day. I've seen some big dudes get KTFO by average Joe's who knew what they were doing.

Judging your opponent by size alone is foolish. Use your head first and your strength last. Pay attention to your surroundings, keep a cool head, and you'll find you're much better at providing security than any short tempered meathead benching 350.

Now thats a sheepdog.

of course the trained fighter has the advantage over the untrained in most cases. but how many people have fight training? i think the point of the thread is 2 people with equal fight skills. in those cases the bigger guys usually win. thats why contact sports have weight classes. a flyweight couldnt harm a heavyweight.

This thread is now stupid. SHouldnt we be discussing hot chicks? Like no chicks are posting on here so let's discuss chicks

I don't find constitutional rights extremist, but the belief that a right means it is right for everyone and people without a CC are going to die... not so much. Some people would do more harm than good with a firearm...

imo its all about the heart, not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog... for instance.. i am from the country people so give me a break.. but u can have 7 dogs corner a coon on the ground, and that one coon will tear the h3ll out of all of those dogs.. and we are all animals.. we have base instincts, a man is most dangerous when he is backed into a corner with no escape, we have that primal gut feeling of the alpha.. unless you.. well nvm... but its all in the head.. i was in the marines and i saw beasts cry like girls and skinny guys that weight 100 pounds whoop it like nothing. its the head game imo...

For me, the driving force is elite athleticism and aesthetics.

The "kick you *kitten*" does not motivate me.

I have a 9mm on my side and CC permit in my pocket. I don't know any man that can beat up a bullet no matter how ripped he is.

unless you have it drawn at all times and your head on a swivel keeping everyone at arm's reach that gun will do nothing for you if someone attacks you.

I disagree. I pity the person who believes and employs your theory. They most likely will not survive the day. We all should have a CC and exercise that right.

agreed, its better to have a gun and not need it then need a gun and not have it... now with that said im not the type to pull out a gun because some punk wants to start trouble.. but every1 should carry.. you never know when your going to be in that situation where the guy fighting you isnt using fists.. but bullets.. and all the training and muscle will account for absolute nothing. you dont carry for the feeling of "oh im so bad" "im so macho".. you carry for when the dude that just went ape shizz walks into the restaurant and starts popping people you got something to pop back with.

when i saw this thread in a friend's feed, I thought it would be fun. How in the ____ did it turn into a $hitty gun thread? Sad.

You kinda worry about someone taking out an assalt rifle and shooting up the movie theatre or killing their boss at work. It seems like everyone needs to express their strengths: whether it was football, ruby, basketball, kick boxing, or their gun collection?

for someone with no training what would be the best discipline to take just for self defense? BJJ? Krav Maga? Muay Thai?

If I had to start over, I would recommend boxing. Great cardio, conditioning and hand eye coordination. Seek a certified boxing trainer, but they will usually charge $50 to $60 per hour.

BJJ - is very expensive and takes years to master. Let me know which city and I can recommend a few schools.

Muay Thai - This is the shortest amount of time to learn, but very bad on the joints. Most trainers don't teach proper defense, slipping punches, countering, etc.

Krav Maga - Find a legit teacher. Israeli soldiers are very tough. I fought a few.

SEALs - strong willed, physically tough, great endurance. Most are trained in MMA.

Police - my buddies are the instructors, and they incorporate MMA, BJJ into their rookie training.

Convicts - what better way to learn survival. I fought a few and they are tough to submit or knock out.

Karate, Tang Soo Do, Tae Kwon Do - this could be over confidence. Most of these fighters are good after 2nd or 3rd degree black belt.

May I suggest Turkish oil wrestling?

Sounds dangerous! :O

Are you a black belt?

BTW, there was bar that held these matches in college. The girls would wrestle in oil, then stop and have the guys bid on a match with champion. It was a lot of fun.

Motivate you for at least part of your training?...

Personally, it was one of the main in my life as I started training for football. I like being strong to this day partly because I liked the power of manhandling someone on the field.

I'm not saying we're all fighters, but whether or not you think you can kick someone's *kitten* does come into the psyche more often than most would probably care to admit.

Of course I didn't mean this thread to be serious so answer knowing that.

i do it for chicks

If I had to start over, I would recommend boxing. Great cardio, conditioning and hand eye coordination. Seek a certified boxing trainer, but they will usually charge $50 to $60 per hour.

BJJ - is very expensive and takes years to master. Let me know which city and I can recommend a few schools.

i dont know if everyone knows that BJJ is Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. I only know because a army teaches a few BJJ moves in basic now days

ETA: Most people don't CC and most of them live through each day... quit using extremist viewpoints to try and sway people to your belief system.

Except for many people involved in recent shootings.

You sir disgust me believing that 2nd amendment rights are extremist.

You disgust me by thinking that everyone in this country is responsible enough to be trusted with a gun.

ETA: Most people don't CC and most of them live through each day... quit using extremist viewpoints to try and sway people to your belief system.

Except for many people involved in recent shootings.

You sir disgust me believing that 2nd amendment rights are extremist.

You disgust me by thinking that everyone in this country is responsible enough to be trusted with a gun.

yes well everyone isnt, and thats why felons arent able to get guns.. but with that said do you honestly believe you will keep guns out of the criminals hands... you cant punish the many for the deeds of the few.. that is not our way.. i dont understand why people believe guns are so evil.. the gun didnt go off on its own and hit poor timmy in the head.. its the crazy criminal sob that pulled the trigger... and if it wasnt guns, it would be knives, it would be arrows, it would be rocks.. dont you see.. violence will never leave or species.. but if you will senselessly attack some one and call the extremist because he believes in the bill of rights... then god himself cannot show you the light and you will forever be a sheeple to the powers of control.. dont get me wrong, i do hope that one day we come together as a world and stop waring, together we can accomplish anything.. our destiny is to travel the stars and its only a matter of time before we can.. unless we destroy ourselves 1st

oh and Ron Paul ftw!
libertarianism baby, freedom for all!