Concealing & carrying pistols while running/working out

Maybe find a safer place to run.

yeah... see... I guess its perspective.
You or someone you love gets raped or molested... you say "well atleast you're alive"

On the otherhand.. if someone I love is about to get raped or molested.. I kill them, then we say "well, atleast he wont rape or molest anyone else".


I suppose the diff is, I am allowed to prevent it.
Niether of us can really do much after it occurs.. well.. legally atleast.

You know... you're right here. I think I would be more likely to fight to protect someone I loved as opposed to protect myself.

yeah... see... I guess its perspective.
You or someone you love gets raped or molested... you say "well atleast you're alive"

On the otherhand.. if someone I love is about to get raped or molested.. I kill them, then we say "well, atleast he wont rape or molest anyone else".


I suppose the diff is, I am allowed to prevent it.
Niether of us can really do much after it occurs.. well.. legally atleast.

You know... you're right here. I think I would be more likely to fight to protect someone I loved as opposed to protect myself.

well.. I just would say its pretty hard for someone (not to mention unlikely) to rape me. LOL.

England: odds are against you getting shot ... but hope you're prepared to be knifed. Number of knife deaths have about doubled in the last few decades. You are far more likely to be the victim of knife crime in the UK than you are to be a gun crime victim in the US.

exactly.
I laugh everytime someone talks about how much better England is for having almost no shootings.

because they're ****ing brutal there.
they knife you
they beat you with bats.
they thrash you with chains and kick you with boots.
they gang up on you.

all things that still kill you.. in a bloodier, more brutal way.

MURDER RATES NEVER CHANGED.. the same amount of innocent people still die.


matter of fact, englands knife assults went up so much, they banned carrying pocket knifes unless required for your job... so an innocent man cant even carry a useful tool around unless he has a reason. nevermind self defence, I just carry my pocket knife for simple things like cutting an occasional box open, or if my drink mix tube wont tear properly.... cant do that there.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of idiots out there. It's unsettling to think that anyone around me could be carrying.

If you live in America, there are lots of people around you who are legally carrying concealed weapons. Have any of them hurt you yet?

England: odds are against you getting shot ... but hope you're prepared to be knifed. Number of knife deaths have about doubled in the last few decades. You are far more likely to be the victim of knife crime in the UK than you are to be a gun crime victim in the US.

exactly.
I laugh everytime someone talks about how much better England is for having almost no shootings.

because they're ****ing brutal there.
they knife you
they beat you with bats.
they thrash you with chains and kick you with boots.
they gang up on you.

all things that still kill you.. in a bloodier, more brutal way.

MURDER RATES NEVER CHANGED.. the same amount of innocent people still die.


matter of fact, englands knife assults went up so much, they banned carrying pocket knifes unless required for your job... so an innocent man cant even carry a useful tool around unless he has a reason. nevermind self defence, I just carry my pocket knife for simple things like cutting an occasional box open, or if my drink mix tube wont tear properly.... cant do that there.

Well, you can just look it up and see you're wrong:

UK murder rate per 100,000 residents: 1.2

US murder rate per 100,000 residents: 4.2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

So you are almost 3.5 times more likely to be murdered in the US than in the UK. And guns are clearly a huge part of that, since in the US we have over 9000 gun murders per year, while in the UK they have only 39. Carrying guns escalates things very quickly, resulting in many more murders.

--P

MURDER RATES NEVER CHANGED.. the same amount of innocent people still die.

Actually our murder rate is the lowest it's been for two decades but don't let facts get in the way of a good old rant, eh?

that's just the calm before the storm. We're only four months away from the zombie apocalypse. Remember, you gotta shoot em in the head. Oh wait. You don't have a gun.... just run.

Or head for the Winchester and get that rifle from behind the bar.

This is a fascinating thread....here I was logging in to post my exercise calories and I get to feast on a whole host of anthropological insights. How super.

the question was about how to conceal carry while running or working out, not if you think it is right or wrong. Some people have jobs or requirements that may require different needs than you and others and to tell them they are wrong for that is foolish and ignorant.

That's because some of us, American's included can't fathom why you would need a gun to run. There are treadmills in the gym, there are tracks at the local park or high school, there are well-lit and populated trails. If an area makes you question your safety to the point where you need a gun, maybe you should avoid jogging in that area.

But criminals carry guns with the purpose of using them against a person. How is defending yourself from it "wacky"?

But why would a criminal want to shoot you? Honestly, I'm genuinely confused! I know criminals may want to steal your phone, money, purse etc. but just randomly shooting you for the fun of it seems a bit out there. No?

I wish I lived on your planet.

Randomly shooting people for the fun of it has become a popular form of recreation in cities like Chicago and Washington DC in recent days. Gang initiations often require some young punk to pick the random civilian and blow him/her away just to show his homies what a badass he is. People are much more likely to be killed in a robbery today here than they were in the past. Your life has absolutely no value to the punks roaming the streets today. They will kill you just for the bragging rights. I wasn't aware that Canada and Europe were under a total news blackout. I thought this was common knowledge. I realize you have your own gang and criminal problems, but they are nothing like what we have here. We have ultra violent gangs like MS13 strolling in across the border from Mexico and our beloved president has forbidden the ICE/Border Patrol from interfering with our newest residents.

I just saw a great article from the UK on how well you are handling your crime problem there. The burglar would have to be brave to do that in Texas!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2198621/It-takes-huge-courage-burgle-somebodys-house-What-judge-told-intruder-raided-homes-letting-walk-free-court.html?ITO=1490

Firstly, I am not from the UK, so that article doesn't apply. Yes, we do hear about shootings in the US over here, but it is usually when it happens in a school or university.

Honestly, your post just makes me very sad. How awful. If that is how things are over there then yes, I can understand why you would choose to own a firearm. But, did the availablity of guns cause the problem in the first place or is it something deeper than that?

There will possibly be an opportunity for me to work in the US next year (for a few years) but this post is really putting me off the idea! I have a child and I would never want him exposed to such a culture.

Very sad indeed.

Yes, it is very sad. I don't want to give you the impression that all of America is like that. As someone else mentioned, America is a huge place. I feel pretty safe in the places I choose to visit and am smart enough to stay out of the places that aren't safe. Gang crime is mostly concentrated in the large cities, but has been spreading out into smaller communities lately. Guns are not what is causing the increasing violence. There are a lot of factors. Moral relativism, broken families, infatuation with the rap gansta culture, poor economic outlook for young people, lure of easy money in crime, glorification of violence in movies & TV, boredom, etc. All of these are contributing to the decline of our culture. We see almost every week in the news that 13 or 20 more people were shot over the weekend in Chicago, Philadelphia, Baltimore, DC, etc. We have flash mob robberies with dozens of participants. We have large mobs of teenagers running through the streets at night following a concert or a state fair and assaulting anyone of a different race. The newest craze is the knockout game. This is where 4 or 5 punks pick out some helpless looking person on crutches, in a wheelchair, or too old to fight back and they video their attack on him and post it to YouTube for its entertainment value. The idea is to sucker punch the victim and knock him out with one punch. Nice, huh? Many of the victims are killed out right. Many more are permanently disabled. Several joggers and cyclists have also been victims of the knockout game. Those are our people. Yeah, I'll keep on carrying and won't feel the least bit guilty about it. I'm kinda stubborn that way.

I actually saw a pair of running shorts with a gun holster on the back part of the shorts. Lower back region. I seriously thought about looking into them... But I really don't know how comfortable that would be.

Then, whats the chance u could pull the funnily in enough time if threatened?
Crime has gotten worse around my area.... It's a thought to consider.

England: odds are against you getting shot ... but hope you're prepared to be knifed. Number of knife deaths have about doubled in the last few decades. You are far more likely to be the victim of knife crime in the UK than you are to be a gun crime victim in the US.

exactly.
I laugh everytime someone talks about how much better England is for having almost no shootings.

because they're ****ing brutal there.
they knife you
they beat you with bats.
they thrash you with chains and kick you with boots.
they gang up on you.

all things that still kill you.. in a bloodier, more brutal way.

MURDER RATES NEVER CHANGED.. the same amount of innocent people still die.


matter of fact, englands knife assults went up so much, they banned carrying pocket knifes unless required for your job... so an innocent man cant even carry a useful tool around unless he has a reason. nevermind self defence, I just carry my pocket knife for simple things like cutting an occasional box open, or if my drink mix tube wont tear properly.... cant do that there.

Well, you can just look it up and see you're wrong:

UK murder rate per 100,000 residents: 1.2

US murder rate per 100,000 residents: 4.2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

So you are almost 3.5 times more likely to be murdered in the US than in the UK. And guns are clearly a huge part of that, since in the US we have over 9000 gun murders per year, while in the UK they have only 39. Carrying guns escalates things very quickly, resulting in many more murders.

--P

Worth noting is the fact that US death rates for guns include gang on gang violence. Take that out and the numbers are far, far lower.

And just because I'm not as likely to die from a knife assault doesn't mean I'd really like to have to endure one.

The Pollyanna attitude of many in england is baffling.

England: odds are against you getting shot ... but hope you're prepared to be knifed. Number of knife deaths have about doubled in the last few decades. You are far more likely to be the victim of knife crime in the UK than you are to be a gun crime victim in the US.

exactly.
I laugh everytime someone talks about how much better England is for having almost no shootings.

because they're ****ing brutal there.
they knife you
they beat you with bats.
they thrash you with chains and kick you with boots.
they gang up on you.

all things that still kill you.. in a bloodier, more brutal way.

MURDER RATES NEVER CHANGED.. the same amount of innocent people still die.


matter of fact, englands knife assults went up so much, they banned carrying pocket knifes unless required for your job... so an innocent man cant even carry a useful tool around unless he has a reason. nevermind self defence, I just carry my pocket knife for simple things like cutting an occasional box open, or if my drink mix tube wont tear properly.... cant do that there.

Well, you can just look it up and see you're wrong:

UK murder rate per 100,000 residents: 1.2

US murder rate per 100,000 residents: 4.2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

So you are almost 3.5 times more likely to be murdered in the US than in the UK. And guns are clearly a huge part of that, since in the US we have over 9000 gun murders per year, while in the UK they have only 39. Carrying guns escalates things very quickly, resulting in many more murders.

--P

Worth noting is the fact that US death rates for guns include gang on gang violence. Take that out and the numbers are far, far lower.

And just because I'm not as likely to die from a knife assault doesn't mean I'd really like to have to endure one.

The Pollyanna attitude of many in england is baffling.

I want to know what the murder rate in the US is from legal gun owners acting in a legal fashion.

I actually saw a pair of running shorts with a gun holster on the back part of the shorts. Lower back region. I seriously thought about looking into them... But I really don't know how comfortable that would be.

Then, whats the chance u could pull the funnily in enough time if threatened?
Crime has gotten worse around my area.... It's a thought to consider.

Ill be rocking these, and so will my mom when I get her a pair for christmas!!! ( both have conceal and carry )

39 gun murders but almost 600 murders total. If I'm going to be murdered I'd rather be shot than beat to death.


If someone wanted to murder you - would you rather have that person come at your with a knife or a gun?

I can't really answer that. A knife can be just as deadly as a gun. And I'd probably rather be shot than sliced up.

I'm going to make it as bad a day for them as I can either way.

Personally I would prefer someone attacking me with a knife or a trout or 2X4. I think my chances of surviving such an attack vs. a gun would be slightly higher.

Trout or 2x4 weren't given to me as options. I was answering the question as posed. Knife wounds have the potential to be much nastier and harder to deal with than bullet wounds. Most preferable (second to not getting attacked in the first place) would be to emerge from the whathaveyou unscathed. I don't particularly care what shape the attacker is in at the end of it.