Do you think milk is safe?

The combination of milk and strength training has been shown to cause significant muscular inflammation.

I quoted this before, so apologies for repeating, but it has been shown to be of possible benefit, at least in women,

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23075559

"Overall, RE and milk/dairy consumption positively impact body composition in women by promoting losses in fat, gains or maintenance of lean mass and preservation of bone."

there's nothing to really suggest that hormones and the like end up in milk. Many major dairies don't even give their cows hormones anymore anyway.

Cows are animals.

They make hormones.

The hormones are in milk.

Doesn't matter if a cow was injected with extra hormones are not, there is no such thing as hormone free dairy cow.

And yet you have yet to show any evidence that shows a causation of any negative health issues. In fact, the series of studies you brought up shows health benefits.

I think you're confusing me with someone else.

If you'd like a photo of what happens in the bathroom if I do have dairy I'd post but I'd probably get banned for life, the same if I posted some lovely photos of snot that I get if I have a dairy. I could dig around and find a pre-dairy-free pic of oily skin and acne though maybe.

You are correct I did get you mixed up - you quoted my post earlier which was responding to a different poster.

You have an intolerance - that is not nice for you at all. But that does not mean that milk is bad for the rest of the population who are not intolerant should avoid it, unless you can come up with a credible source that shows negative health benefits for those peeps.

Edited for typos.

What do you consider "credible"
What would a "credible" source even prove to you?

I mean I could post a source that says according to such and such study by such and such university that causes say cancer or bowl obstruction, whatever, and then what would your response be?

Likely one of these:

1. I don't care because anything is bad for you these days
2. Well that's just one study...
3. counter with another study.

Not looking to play ring around the rosie. This happens on every post like this. People ask for facts and they answer in one of three ways. If the op would like some source I'll be happy to provide them with some, but it appears to likely have been a troll as they haven't returned. If you want to eat dairy, be my guest, I'm not saying you shouldn't, it's not going to affect my body. While I don't believe people should consume dairy from another animal (who knows why we started doing that anyway), and while I believe it's cruel, I'm not telling you or anyone not to eat it. But I know what I've read about it and what I've experienced first hand. Believe it or not I used to eat lots of dairy. It took me realizing it was making me sick for me to stop,

there's nothing to really suggest that hormones and the like end up in milk. Many major dairies don't even give their cows hormones anymore anyway.

Cows are animals.

They make hormones.

The hormones are in milk.

Doesn't matter if a cow was injected with extra hormones are not, there is no such thing as hormone free dairy cow.

And yet you have yet to show any evidence that shows a causation of any negative health issues. In fact, the series of studies you brought up shows health benefits.

I think you're confusing me with someone else.

If you'd like a photo of what happens in the bathroom if I do have dairy I'd post but I'd probably get banned for life, the same if I posted some lovely photos of snot that I get if I have a dairy. I could dig around and find a pre-dairy-free pic of oily skin and acne though maybe.

You are correct I did get you mixed up - you quoted my post earlier which was responding to a different poster.

You have an intolerance - that is not nice for you at all. But that does not mean that milk is bad for the rest of the population who are not intolerant should avoid it, unless you can come up with a credible source that shows negative health benefits for those peeps.

Edited for typos.

What do you consider "credible"
What would a "credible" source even prove to you?

I mean I could post a source that says according to such and such study by such and such university that causes say cancer or bowl obstruction, whatever, and then what would your response be?

Likely one of these:

1. I don't care because anything is bad for you these days
2. Well that's just one study...
3. counter with another study.

Not looking to play ring around the rosie. This happens on every post like this. People ask for facts and they answer in one of three ways. If the op would like some source I'll be happy to provide them with some, but it appears to likely have been a troll as they haven't returned. If you want to eat dairy, be my guest, I'm not saying you shouldn't, it's not going to affect my body. While I don't believe people should consume dairy from another animal (who knows why we started doing that anyway), and while I believe it's cruel, I'm not telling you or anyone not to eat it. But I know what I've read about it and what I've experienced first hand. Believe it or not I used to eat lots of dairy. It took me realizing it was making me sick for me to stop,

Credible = peer reviewed studies that actually indicate a possible negative impact. Yes, you will often (but not always) get conflicting studies, but at least providing them can help make informed decisions without the hyperbole.

To the OP questions... no I do not think cows milk is safe and I also think it is gross. (china study eh?) When I see someone chugging cows milk I just want to hurl... *shudders* Cows milk is for the baby cows. Human milk is for the baby humans. I'm all for almond milk, soy milk and coconut milk though... yummy stuff there. If someone else enjoys it though, I'm not going to rag on them about it...

You clearly did not read through the replies, so I will repost what has been said about the China Study. My nutrition epidemiology professor used it in class to teach us the issues of bias and confounding variables that invalidate studies. Those in the nutrition science community view it as heavily flawed.

Ok, the China Study has been invalidated many, many times, due to many rather glaring scientific errors. Correlation vs causation issues, studying one specific subset of people and trying to extrapolate to others, cherry picking data, failing to properly control for variables, and on and on. It's an interesting read, but useless to draw any real conclusions.

I did switch my milk for almond milk and coconut I don't miss milk at all :drinker: lol

No....I don't. After a lot of research, I don't eat dairy. I'm sure this is controversial, but I've done my homework.

Its the #1 calorie counting and food logging website. Not the #1 FITNESS website. It doesnt even log fitness correctly... So my question was why are you on a food logging website if you dont care about what you eat?

Because the fear is eating TOO much! I'm not exactly clear on how MyFitnessPal is supposed to protect me from deadly carcinogenic hormone-filled milk at any rate.

Its the #1 calorie counting and food logging website. Not the #1 FITNESS website. It doesnt even log fitness correctly... So my question was why are you on a food logging website if you dont care about what you eat?

post hoc ergo propter hoc

Organic milk is a perfectly good food for those of us with the evolved ability to digest it--only about 30% of the world's population has this ability into adulthood.

Get dairy that has no hormones added. This is an easy problem.