Home school vs public school?
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Then plan to support your children later on in life, when they cannot get into college, or get a decent job because colleges and employers look for such things as transcripts, grades, etc. Good luck with that.
Why so harsh?
Your statements make me wonder why you are so hostile to the idea of homeschooling, particularly when the methods are alternative, such as unschooling. There are many academic models, including Montessori and Waldorf, that tend to be more student-driven than traditional models. These are often offered in brick-and-mortar schools with paid teachers. Do you have such negative reactions to those, too?
I suspect you resent that parents can fly free in educating their children without radar-tracking by 'officials'. Did you ever lose a student to homeschooling and might it have made you angry? I'm just wondering.
Many years ago, the private Montessori school my children attended decided more than half of the boys in my son's class should not progress to the next grade. My son was one of those boys--the very one who entered law school years later at age 19. We strongly resisted grade retention for him. They tried many ways to strong-arm us into consenting. We finally said that we had had it with their manipulations, and stated we were withdrawing both our children to homeschool them. The teacher and administration were furious, telling us that that was 'illegal' and that they would report us to the 'authorities.' We knew the law, and knew they were grandstanding. It was hard not to laugh in their faces, but we asserted that in fact homeschooling was sanctioned by the state, and we were doing it no matter what they said.
My feeling is that ego and the need to control parents and children got in the way of this faculty and administration's ability to see things clearly. I think they saw it as a loss of their authority and will over us.
Perhaps you need to go back and read my posts again, before you're so quick to judge ME? I am not, never ever had, saying that homeschooling is wrong. I said it must be done properly for it to be successful. "Unschooling" however, is the latest 'craze' that is ridiculous. Take your kid to ride coasters and call it physics? Sure, go right ahead. Want your kid to explore veterinary care? Take them to a shelter and let them pet puppies all day and call it "studying veterinary medicine." And get laughed right out of the college admissions office when you try to present some ridiculous "transcripts" that are filled with a bunch of crap the young child decided he or she wanted to learn all on his or her own. What a crock. Do what you want with your kid, but don't expect the doors to open up to them when it's time to face the REAL world.
Why do you think learning has to be regimented and put into boxes to be effective? Like I said before, children are learning every minute they are awake. Unschooling is not a 'craze', and it is not ridiculous. You, as a teacher, should be remaining open minded. It would make you look far more credible if you took the time out to speak to some real unschooling families and do some research, online and otherwise before you make crass comments.
And just an FYI, my children will get far in life. Just you see.
I am far too disgusted with your comments to even go into detail with you.0 -
I was in public school up until my Junior year. I am very, very shy, closed in and socially awkward. After I got into homeschooling, my social anxieties increased, and symptoms of depression have surfaced. The lack of human interaction is not good for someone like your sister. Homeschooling would be good for her if she regularly keeps in touch with friends outside of school.
Homeschooling =/= lack of human interaction, socialisation or contact.0 -
My boyfriend was home schooled and he is very shy, has social anxiety, and is socially awkward. I don't think I'd ever want to raise my kids in home school. I went to public school.
And that MUST be because of his homeschooling, right?
Because being alone in a big school usually full of bullies who pray on socially awkward, shy and anxious people would have really helped his issues.0 -
I don't think it would terribly difficult to find socially awkward kids in a public school. In fact there are a couple on my street and several more in my church. Why is there never a statement that we should end public school because there are socially awkward people there?
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My boyfriend was home schooled and he is very shy, has social anxiety, and is socially awkward. I don't think I'd ever want to raise my kids in home school. I went to public school.
My husband was public schooled and he is very shy, has social anxiety and is socially awkward. I don't think I'll ever raise my children in public school. I, too, went to public school.
Could it be that there just happens to be shy, socially awkward, anxious people in all facets of life? That home schooling nor public schooling is the cause? Pretty sure that answer is YES!
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I am sorry, Innergirl. That's sad. I was bullied to at a young age and then I found someone "lower" in my status so I could bully just so I could be accepted and feel better about myself. It's a vicious cycle. It's been 30 years and I would love to apologize to that girl. I haven't seen her since junior high.
Homeschoolers have a tremendous network. My son played basketball and my daughter played volleyball. The state tournament was HUGE. To get to my point, Homeschoolers have plenty of things to get their "social status" (insert eyeroll) . My kids were involved in 4-H, Teen court (which gives them community service recognition) , sports, and COLLEGE classes.
As I said before, it is up to the parent to meet the needs of the child. Socially awkwardness is just a term for people to use for all homeschoolers in which they have zero information about.0 -
Then plan to support your children later on in life, when they cannot get into college, or get a decent job because colleges and employers look for such things as transcripts, grades, etc. Good luck with that.
Why so harsh?
Your statements make me wonder why you are so hostile to the idea of homeschooling, particularly when the methods are alternative, such as unschooling. There are many academic models, including Montessori and Waldorf, that tend to be more student-driven than traditional models. These are often offered in brick-and-mortar schools with paid teachers. Do you have such negative reactions to those, too?
I suspect you resent that parents can fly free in educating their children without radar-tracking by 'officials'. Did you ever lose a student to homeschooling and might it have made you angry? I'm just wondering.
Many years ago, the private Montessori school my children attended decided more than half of the boys in my son's class should not progress to the next grade. My son was one of those boys--the very one who entered law school years later at age 19. We strongly resisted grade retention for him. They tried many ways to strong-arm us into consenting. We finally said that we had had it with their manipulations, and stated we were withdrawing both our children to homeschool them. The teacher and administration were furious, telling us that that was 'illegal' and that they would report us to the 'authorities.' We knew the law, and knew they were grandstanding. It was hard not to laugh in their faces, but we asserted that in fact homeschooling was sanctioned by the state, and we were doing it no matter what they said.
My feeling is that ego and the need to control parents and children got in the way of this faculty and administration's ability to see things clearly. I think they saw it as a loss of their authority and will over us.
Perhaps you need to go back and read my posts again, before you're so quick to judge ME? I am not, never ever had, saying that homeschooling is wrong. I said it must be done properly for it to be successful. "Unschooling" however, is the latest 'craze' that is ridiculous. Take your kid to ride coasters and call it physics? Sure, go right ahead. Want your kid to explore veterinary care? Take them to a shelter and let them pet puppies all day and call it "studying veterinary medicine." And get laughed right out of the college admissions office when you try to present some ridiculous "transcripts" that are filled with a bunch of crap the young child decided he or she wanted to learn all on his or her own. What a crock. Do what you want with your kid, but don't expect the doors to open up to them when it's time to face the REAL world.
Why do you think learning has to be regimented and put into boxes to be effective? Like I said before, children are learning every minute they are awake. Unschooling is not a 'craze', and it is not ridiculous. You, as a teacher, should be remaining open minded. It would make you look far more credible if you took the time out to speak to some real unschooling families and do some research, online and otherwise before you make crass comments.
And just an FYI, my children will get far in life. Just you see.
I am far too disgusted with your comments to even go into detail with you.
Never fear-- others were equally disgusted, and went into detail...and then some.
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I am sorry, Innergirl. That's sad. I was bullied to at a young age and then I found someone "lower" in my status so I could bully just so I could be accepted and feel better about myself. It's a vicious cycle. It's been 30 years and I would love to apologize to that girl. I haven't seen her since junior high.
Homeschoolers have a tremendous network. My son played basketball and my daughter played volleyball. The state tournament was HUGE. To get to my point, Homeschoolers have plenty of things to get their "social status" (insert eyeroll) . My kids were involved in 4-H, Teen court (which gives them community service recognition) , sports, and COLLEGE classes.
As I said before, it is up to the parent to meet the needs of the child. Socially awkwardness is just a term for people to use for all homeschoolers in which they have zero information about.
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no offense to anyone that is home schooled or home schooling their children, I know what your thinking here comes the insult. Well you're right. I haven't met many people that are home schooled but the ones that I have are all socially awkward. That's just my opinion based on a limited experience.
How do you know who is and isn't homeschooled? Maybe you have met a lot of homeschooled people but don't know it. It's like saying something about gay people... we interact with them everyday and don't know it, so how can you make judgements?
I've said it before and I will say it again... everyone I come in contact with are always surprised that I was taught at home... because I am not the stereotypical "socially awkward", "ignorant", and "bible thumping" person that everyone seems to think we all are... and while my grammar may have much to be desired... I love and can understand Ordinary Differential Equations and was learning College Senior level Statistics in my Saxon pre-algebra course when I was in Jr. High... ;-)
Oh and I would much rather give a speech or presentation over writing a paper anyday.0 -
no offense to anyone that is home schooled or home schooling their children, I know what your thinking here comes the insult. Well you're right. I haven't met many people that are home schooled but the ones that I have are all socially awkward. That's just my opinion based on a limited experience.
How do you know who is and isn't homeschooled? Maybe you have met a lot of homeschooled people but don't know it. It's like saying something about gay people... we interact with them everyday and don't know it, so how can you make judgements?
I've said it before and I will say it again... everyone I come in contact with are always surprised that I was taught at home... because I am not the stereotypical "socially awkward", "ignorant", and "bible thumping" person that everyone seems to think we all are... and while my grammar may have much to be desired... I love and can understand Ordinary Differential Equations and was learning College Senior level Statistics in my Saxon pre-algebra course when I was in Jr. High... ;-)
Oh and I would much rather give a speech or presentation over writing a paper anyday.
Saxon Math rules-- I love the DIVE CD programs. Gives the kids a chance to "listen" and learn. I will say that one skill that isn't developed as fully in our home school is learning by listening to a (boring) teacher and gleaning the knowledge. If they do go to high school, and when they go off to college, that could hurt them. These really help.
Also-- my senior is graduating with high honors in her public school-- she entered in her sophomore year, having been home schooled K-9, and has been a straight A student-- and will be going to college in the fall courtesy of a scholarship to study music..... Not bad for a socially awkward, ill-educated home schooled kid.0 -
My mom tried home schooling me which was fun but I needed special Ed so I had to go to public school. I recommend home schooling!!!!!0
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Hey everyone, if you haven't already done my survey I need to do a research project for uni and I'm researching education, particularly looking at homeschooling. Thank you all so much times a million I greatly appreciate all the responses I can get! Love you all haha
ps. very sorry if it's long haha but it's very important
plus any other information or insight you think would be useful or helpful I greatly appreciate it! also, have you received any negative opinions from family, friends, neighbors etc?
- What got you started into home schooling or considering it as a good option? ie. personal beliefs, friends or family etc
- How long before doing homeschooling had you been seriously considering it?
- Have your children/child ever attended another form of schooling? ie. Private, Public, Specialist eg Arts school etc
- Was it yours or your children's choice to try homeschooling?
- Why did you or your children wish to homeschool/be homeschooled?
- What are the benefits for (a.) you and (b.) your children?
- What does your child like about homeschooling?
- What do you like about homeschooling (both in general, and personally with your children?)
- Are there any negatives to homeschooling your children?
- What do you least enjoy about homeschooling?
- What do your children least enjoy?
- Why is homeschooling best for you and your children? (socially, academically etc)
- Do you homeschool with other families? If so, how many and why?
- Do you keep school and life separate for example do you have a scheduled time and breaks etc? Why/why not?
- Describe a typical "homschooled day"
- With a more relaxed/familiar environment how do you motivate your children to do their work? Do you use any incentives etc?
- What subjects do your children do?
- What curriculum do you follow?
- How do you provide social interactions ie excursions, after school sports or groups, parents and kids getting together with other homeschooling families etc?
- How long have you been home schooled your children for?
- Have all your children been homeschooled and if not why?
- Have any of your children gone back to school after being homeschooled? why?
- Do you think there is a negative image on homeschooling by the general public? ie. Myths that homeschooled kids are unsociable etc?
- Do you think there is a myth that homeschoolers have a harder time getting into college/university?
- If your children are being homeschooled at a high school level, do they take any extra college courses?
- What is the gender / age of your children that are being home schooled?
- Do you belong to any homeschooling groups or "associations" with regular newsletters etc?0 -
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Wow, I didn't have time to read through twenty pages of posts so I don't know if this was addressed or not, but if she is socially awkward, your Mom might consider taking her to a psychologist and having her tested to make sure there isn't an underlying reason for it. That is a symptom of asperger syndrome. Insurance normally covers this test and if something is found then that can be addressed. Homeschooling is a personal decision and there are a LOT of things to consider, especially at eight. I would get her tested first.0
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Wow, I didn't have time to read through twenty pages of posts so I don't know if this was addressed or not, but if she is socially awkward, your Mom might consider taking her to a psychologist and having her tested to make sure there isn't an underlying reason for it. That is a symptom of asperger syndrome. Insurance normally covers this test and if something is found then that can be addressed. Homeschooling is a personal decision and there are a LOT of things to consider, especially at eight. I would get her tested first.
Riiiight, because everybody with social anxiety has Asperger's. :noway:0 -
Then plan to support your children later on in life, when they cannot get into college, or get a decent job because colleges and employers look for such things as transcripts, grades, etc. Good luck with that.
Why so harsh?
Your statements make me wonder why you are so hostile to the idea of homeschooling, particularly when the methods are alternative, such as unschooling. There are many academic models, including Montessori and Waldorf, that tend to be more student-driven than traditional models. These are often offered in brick-and-mortar schools with paid teachers. Do you have such negative reactions to those, too?
I suspect you resent that parents can fly free in educating their children without radar-tracking by 'officials'. Did you ever lose a student to homeschooling and might it have made you angry? I'm just wondering.
Many years ago, the private Montessori school my children attended decided more than half of the boys in my son's class should not progress to the next grade. My son was one of those boys--the very one who entered law school years later at age 19. We strongly resisted grade retention for him. They tried many ways to strong-arm us into consenting. We finally said that we had had it with their manipulations, and stated we were withdrawing both our children to homeschool them. The teacher and administration were furious, telling us that that was 'illegal' and that they would report us to the 'authorities.' We knew the law, and knew they were grandstanding. It was hard not to laugh in their faces, but we asserted that in fact homeschooling was sanctioned by the state, and we were doing it no matter what they said.
My feeling is that ego and the need to control parents and children got in the way of this faculty and administration's ability to see things clearly. I think they saw it as a loss of their authority and will over us.
Perhaps you need to go back and read my posts again, before you're so quick to judge ME? I am not, never ever had, saying that homeschooling is wrong. I said it must be done properly for it to be successful. "Unschooling" however, is the latest 'craze' that is ridiculous. Take your kid to ride coasters and call it physics? Sure, go right ahead. Want your kid to explore veterinary care? Take them to a shelter and let them pet puppies all day and call it "studying veterinary medicine." And get laughed right out of the college admissions office when you try to present some ridiculous "transcripts" that are filled with a bunch of crap the young child decided he or she wanted to learn all on his or her own. What a crock. Do what you want with your kid, but don't expect the doors to open up to them when it's time to face the REAL world.
Why do you think learning has to be regimented and put into boxes to be effective? Like I said before, children are learning every minute they are awake. Unschooling is not a 'craze', and it is not ridiculous. You, as a teacher, should be remaining open minded. It would make you look far more credible if you took the time out to speak to some real unschooling families and do some research, online and otherwise before you make crass comments.
And just an FYI, my children will get far in life. Just you see.
I am far too disgusted with your comments to even go into detail with you.
Never fear-- others were equally disgusted, and went into detail...and then some.
I noticed! Loved the responses you guys gave. I couldn't be bothered to reply properly, but you guys nailed it! Said it all for me 0 -
I find it funny how far some of you parents go to shelter your kids from life. Teach them right from wrong, teach them about morals and values and let them decide how they want to live their lives.
That couldn't be farther from the truth! Home schoolers have many options on how to socialize, which is anywhere from a co-ops to sports. I was home schooled all through grade school and I am extremely social. And it isn't "sheltering" it is creating a better learning environment. That is a generalization that is just plain ignorant of you to say. Also, in my opinion, that is horrible parenting advice. Children need guidance.0 -
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i was home schooled.
Look how absolutely fabulous I turned out.
People argue that home schooled students are socially inept.
Ladies and Gentlemen, if I were any MORE socially savvy, I'd rule the world.
Yes, I'm THAT close.
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I was homeschooled from 5th grade through high school and I wouldn't change it for anything. I loved being homeschooled and I still have a lot of friends and was never antisocial.0
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There are advantages and disadvantages to both; in order to be successful, the homeschool must be highly disciplined and have strong parental involvement. It is not for everybody.0
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We home school. My oldest two graduated this past year. Four more to go. It has been awesome. Any way, a little off topic, my school district receives over six grand per year for each one of my children that we register with them. That's over thirty six thousand dollars a year as of last year! I could only imagine what my family could have done with that money privately for education. I pay school taxes. I also invest thousands per year toward our home school. With that money we would have the best computers, field trips, tutors, you name it. I think that thought puts things into some perspective concerning public schools.
With that said, home schooling is not for everyone it's a huge commitment on many levels! I trust your parents will make the best decision for you family they can. They are in the best relationship to do so!0 -
My only problem with home schoolers is when the parents are ignorant, lazy, or teach the Bible instead of fact. I've seen some wonderful homeschooler parents and kids. I've also seen some 10yr olds who were illiterate because mom did an "unschool" and let the kid learn what they wanted and the kid only wanted to learn TV and video games.0
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Homeschooled. Social. Dazzling personality. Incredibly intelligent. Three higher education degrees. Works for a multinational company. Pretty much the most awesome person ever.0
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I have a 5 yr old who just started kindergarten this year. I don't see myself homeschooling. I just don't have the Patience for it. I also have a 2 yr old daughter and it's hard enough trying to keep him focused for 15 minutes of homework with her running around like a crazy girl too! I couldn't imagine trying to home school with her shenanigans too lol. Although I know a few people who home school kids with younger ones, its just not for me.0
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After watching the pitiful downward spiral of my public school district over the past 30 years, I would try very hard to homeschool if I had school age kids anymore. I did homeschool my youngest for a year after issues with a principal who was more interested in her political powers than in student education. After that one year a different principal who had known me for years and wanted my son in her school finally talked me into transferring him there and told me how to make the district pay for it. The previous principal got all on her high horse saying my son would need all kinds of remedial courses because he had been "out of school" for a year. She shut it real fast when he went in and WON the district spelling bee the first week back. In hindsight, I wish I had continued homeschooling him. This school system is far more focused on socialization than on education. The good principal and so many good teachers were driven out for political reasons. I wouldn't want my kids in what it has become now.0
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So, how in the world do they study science, math and chemistry? I mean, I doubt you're doing acid/base titrations in the kitchen. How qualified is the person teaching? How do they test them to make sure they are on the same level (or above) their public schooled peers are? How do they interact with kids their own age (non-hs kids/kids outside the church)? It's up to the parents on what they want to do with their kid's education though....I've just always been curious.0
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So, how in the world do they study science, math and chemistry? I mean, I doubt you're doing acid/base titrations in the kitchen. How qualified is the person teaching? How do they test them to make sure they are on the same level (or above) their public schooled peers are? How do they interact with kids their own age (non-hs kids/kids outside the church)? It's up to the parents on what they want to do with their kid's education though....I've just always been curious.
There is a LOT of homechooling supplies, curriculum ect on the internet and there are a lot of stores that sell homeschool supplies. Science kits, chemistry kits ect.You just have to look. Testing really depends on what the laws are where the students live as each state has its own laws wich range from very strict to basically no regualtion at all. Parents take care of socialization needs by forming homeschooling groups where they also share resources, hold classes ect.0 -
I would never be able to home school my children, I just don't have the patience for it.0
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