Lame.

This is pretty much why I don't post topics. I'll comment, but that's it. I get what the OP is saying; and I also understand the contrary viewpoints.

I think there's a balance; no, we don't have to be rainbows, glitter and sunshine to motivate one another, but there is a difference between being blunt and being rude.

Candid: "Don't blame others for your predicament; you're a grown woman, you have to want to do it. No one else can want it for you."

Rude: Guess what? It's your own fault! They're not trying to lose the weight, you are"

Both are correct, but which one is helpful, and which one is not? I think that's what the OP is trying to get across.

Correct answer is... depends on exactly who the two people are. The one on the bottom works better for me. Maybe the first one works better on you?

Am I supposed to know ahead of time, cause no one tells you what they need when they ask you to do the work for them.

Also...I forgot...I am bi-polar as well....so take everything I say with a grain of salt and don't let me anger you with my mood swings....

This is pretty much why I don't post topics. I'll comment, but that's it. I get what the OP is saying; and I also understand the contrary viewpoints.

I think there's a balance; no, we don't have to be rainbows, glitter and sunshine to motivate one another, but there is a difference between being blunt and being rude.

Candid: "Don't blame others for your predicament; you're a grown woman, you have to want to do it. No one else can want it for you."

Rude: Guess what? It's your own fault! They're not trying to lose the weight, you are"

Both are correct, but which one is helpful, and which one is not? I think that's what the OP is trying to get across.

Correct answer is... depends on exactly who the two people are. The one on the bottom works better for me. Maybe the first one works better on you?

Am I supposed to know ahead of time, cause no one tells you what they need when they ask you to do the work for them.

Exactly that ^^^

And I didn't think either of them were rude although the top one was a bit passive aggressive for me

This is pretty much why I don't post topics. I'll comment, but that's it. I get what the OP is saying; and I also understand the contrary viewpoints.

I think there's a balance; no, we don't have to be rainbows, glitter and sunshine to motivate one another, but there is a difference between being blunt and being rude.

Candid: "Don't blame others for your predicament; you're a grown woman, you have to want to do it. No one else can want it for you."

Rude: Guess what? It's your own fault! They're not trying to lose the weight, you are"

Both are correct, but which one is helpful, and which one is not? I think that's what the OP is trying to get across.

Correct answer is... depends on exactly who the two people are. The one on the bottom works better for me. Maybe the first one works better on you?

Am I supposed to know ahead of time, cause no one tells you what they need when they ask you to do the work for them.

Exactly that ^^^

And I didn't think either of them were rude although the top one was a bit passive aggressive for me

My point is simply this: When I'm giving my opinion or advice, I try to do so in a way that doesn't turn the listener off. If you tune me out, I've wasted my time, and I find that frustrating. I would much rather put my opinion out in such a way that facilitates progress.

Everyone gets YOUR point. That's just awesome for you. The OTHER point is - How do YOU know what does and does not turn the listener off. All you can offer is the kind of motivation that works on YOU. Which is exactly what the rest of us do.

everyone offers what works for them so the original poster can pick out the one they need and use it to get in a workout. Unfortunately, they refuse to use the motivation that works best for them, because they would rather park their butt in front of the computer and latch on to all the kinds of motivation that didnt work- and yell at those people.

You say you want motivation, then you'd take the first motivation you came across. But if you're looking for an excuse to procrastinate or skip a workout, then youll ignore your personal brand of motivation when it shows up and argue and be butt-hurt instead.

So you can stay sitting in front of the computer.

When you know what you are really supposed to be doing. but you're ashamed cause you dont wanna, cant get up and make yourself, and being a victim on the internet, persecuted and abused for not doing what you should be doing... seems so much better and familiar and inside the comfort zone.

break your walls down, quit being so happy and excited to be offended, and go out there and prove that you mean it already.

The longer you stay on the internet arguing, the surer everyone you are arguing with is that you really just dont want to exercise.

ETA - please i dont mean YOU in particular!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is your opinion. I respect that. Now please respect mine. Mean is reality. Motivation is BS. If people are discouraged by people typing characters into a keyboard then they were not fully committed in the first place.

you are obviously a realist, but your world is a reflection of your attitude. obviously, your world isn't very good. sounds like you could use some MOTIVATION AND SUPPORT. ;O)