how overrated is/was the SEC this season?

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  • NormalSaneFLGuy
    NormalSaneFLGuy Posts: 1,344 Member
    GO DUCKS!!!! =D

    Thank God I'm not the only one. Tonight's game is the match up that SHOULD have been for the whole enchilada (trying to tie in the Tostitos angle) I know, shoulda, woulda, coulda... All I know is, if this thread had been about the PAC 12 there wouldn't be 5 pages of responses.

    And I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the Oregon Ducks will WIN the Fiesta (Chip Kelly) Bowl.

    OOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
    And Chip is then going to scurry off to the NFL before the NCAA comes a koocking, which they will soon. Tonights game wasn't for the whole enchilada because BOTH teams decieded to eff it up and lose. :)

    They effed up and lost because they suck.
    K-state is overrated if you look at their schedule and win margins.
    PAC12 teams have crap defense and that goes for Oregon too.
    Neither team deserves to be in the NC game this year.
  • currierand
    currierand Posts: 155 Member
    GO DUCKS!!!! =D

    Thank God I'm not the only one. Tonight's game is the match up that SHOULD have been for the whole enchilada (trying to tie in the Tostitos angle) I know, shoulda, woulda, coulda... All I know is, if this thread had been about the PAC 12 there wouldn't be 5 pages of responses.

    And I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the Oregon Ducks will WIN the Fiesta (Chip Kelly) Bowl.

    OOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
    And Chip is then going to scurry off to the NFL before the NCAA comes a koocking, which they will soon. Tonights game wasn't for the whole enchilada because BOTH teams decieded to eff it up and lose. :)

    I'm afraid you are right about our man Chip. (Heavy sigh). I'm trying not to think about next year. WIN THE DAY.
  • wolverine66
    wolverine66 Posts: 3,779 Member
    The SEC may be the best conference, but this really was not a good year. When you start off each year with 2/3 of the conference ranked the deck is stacked because you are less likely to have "bad" conference losses and move down throughout the season.

    There are no elite teams either and that includes Bama, who struggled against LSU, a team that lost to Clemson. They lost to TAMU, AT HOME, who for all intents and purposes is still a B12 team with an SEC logo. If UGA doesn't choke at the end of the SECCG, they lose that one too. ELITE teams go undefeated.

    I don't believe the SEC is the best conference top to bottom either. Who's at the bottom? Kentucky, Ole Miss, MSU, Tenn, Auburn, Arkansas, Mizzou (and they all sucked this year). Even the top teams (LSU, UF) lost to lower ranked teams from the Big East and ACC. The SEC (currently 3-3) is a Michigan blown coverage away from being 2-4 in bowl games.

    The Big East is 9-2 vs. SEC in bowl games during BCS era, including 4 straight wins in past 4 seasons. Louisville won more SEC games this year than Kentucky, Tennessee, and Auburn combined.

    If people started looking at facts instead of perception, then maybe their perception will change. But they won't as long as ESPN and CBS keep hyping the conference for money.

    Thank you for making sense.
  • n0ob
    n0ob Posts: 2,390 Member
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  • memcd911
    memcd911 Posts: 230 Member
    Every year someone (or 412 someones) throw this out there... Every year the SEC comes back and shoves it in their faces. The title will stay in the SEC for another 5 years, easily.

    Now, shut it, and shove it.

    Which is why the SEC has won every national championship ever...

    The SEC won't make it 5 years. You are speaking crazy talk now. Even though I think OSU sucks, had they been bowl eligible, it would be ND vs OSU and not Alabama.

    Of the 14 years of the existence of the BCS (which we all know is majorly flawed), the SEC has won NINE championships. The SEC has won the last 6 and will probably snag it's 7th in a row this year. So why is it so ridiculous to think that they are capable of winning 5 more in a row?

    The fact is the ND didn't play anyone worth mentioning, and barely beat an unranked PITT in OT... So cases can be made against lots of teams this year. I think there was a lot of sloppy football played across the league this year.
  • carolg225
    carolg225 Posts: 29
    All I will say here is........ ROLL TIDE ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • fleur_de_lis19
    fleur_de_lis19 Posts: 926 Member
    bama will win the title.....does that make you angry?

    I wish he was my boyfriend...
  • ncahill77
    ncahill77 Posts: 501 Member
    As an Oklahoma State Cowboy I will always hate the SEC, we were robbed last year, and I can assure you after beating a fantastic Stanford team we would have annihilated LSU. Being completely honest I think Bama would have kicked our @sses though.
  • fleur_de_lis19
    fleur_de_lis19 Posts: 926 Member
    I bleed purple n gold all day, everyday.
    Dont worry SEC fans, let the little guys have their moment of "fame" for a few seconds, because we know it won't last long.
    SEC is the best.. end of story.
  • NormalSaneFLGuy
    NormalSaneFLGuy Posts: 1,344 Member
    Every year someone (or 412 someones) throw this out there... Every year the SEC comes back and shoves it in their faces. The title will stay in the SEC for another 5 years, easily.

    Now, shut it, and shove it.

    Which is why the SEC has won every national championship ever...

    The SEC won't make it 5 years. You are speaking crazy talk now. Even though I think OSU sucks, had they been bowl eligible, it would be ND vs OSU and not Alabama.

    Of the 14 years of the existence of the BCS (which we all know is majorly flawed), the SEC has won NINE championships. The SEC has won the last 6 and will probably snag it's 7th in a row this year. So why is it so ridiculous to think that they are capable of winning 5 more in a row?

    The fact is the ND didn't play anyone worth mentioning, and barely beat an unranked PITT in OT... So cases can be made against lots of teams this year. I think there was a lot of sloppy football played across the league this year.

    So basically you ignore all football before the BCS? You ignore all national titles? By your standards Penn State isn't even a good university because the majority of their wins are pre-BCS.

    I never said the SEC won't win 5 more titles, but to think they will win the next 5 in a row is ridiculous. If it wasn't for OSU NCAA violations, they wouldn't even have a crack at it this year. Your logic is heavily flawed.

    Even if you hate ND, which I do, the fact is that it would have been OSU vs ND and neither of them are SEC. Just wait till next year.
  • newdaydawning79
    newdaydawning79 Posts: 1,503 Member
    I think it'll be an awesome game, but I'm hoping Bama pulls out the win. And No, the SEC is not overrated. ;-) Look at Alabama's stats and then look at Ohio's stats. Even if Ohio is 12-0, the right teams are playing for the National Champ title.

    Ohio STATE, not Ohio. That's like saying Michigan State and Michigan are the same school. Well, not entirely because Ohio is a MAC conference school but yes. :D

    ETA:
    OSU = Ohio State, or tOSU for THE Ohio State University. Not OU which is Ohio University (among others, I see you Oklahoma fans!)

    I'm really neutral about tOSU as my alliance goes to Michigan State when it comes to the Big Ten (fiance is a fourth-generation graduate), but for some reason anything like that gets under my skin haha
  • NormalSaneFLGuy
    NormalSaneFLGuy Posts: 1,344 Member
    I think it'll be an awesome game, but I'm hoping Bama pulls out the win. And No, the SEC is not overrated. ;-) Look at Alabama's stats and then look at Ohio's stats. Even if Ohio is 12-0, the right teams are playing for the National Champ title.

    Ohio STATE, not Ohio. That's like saying Michigan State and Michigan are the same school. Well, not entirely because Ohio is a MAC conference school but yes. :D

    ETA:
    OSU = Ohio State, or tOSU for THE Ohio State University. Not OU which is Ohio University (among others, I see you Oklahoma fans!)

    I'm really neutral about tOSU as my alliance goes to Michigan State when it comes to the Big Ten (fiance is a fourth-generation graduate), but for some reason anything like that gets under my skin haha

    OSU it is.
  • harvo
    harvo Posts: 4,676 Member
    How about that OVERRATED SEC now?
  • sirabe
    sirabe Posts: 294 Member
    How about that OVERRATED SEC now?
    ^ this.

    Roll Tide!! Bama fan for life!
  • oregonzoo
    oregonzoo Posts: 4,251 Member
    How about that OVERRATED SEC now?

    I don't believe Bama is the entire SEC. ;)
    As much as other SEC fans may forget.
  • harvo
    harvo Posts: 4,676 Member
    How about that OVERRATED SEC now?

    I don't believe Bama is the entire SEC. ;)
    As much as other SEC fans may forget.

    I agree with you totally BUT with the way the top 2 or 3 teams in the SEC dominating the way they do it gives the impression that they are dominant and it is hard to disagree that the top 2 maybe 3 teams are heads and shoulders above most teams.

    Also, think about this, had Buckeyes been eligible who woud they have played? the assumption would be Notre Dame which means the SEC would not have even been represented and after seeing the game would have been a travesty!

    NOTE: I am not a fan of the SEC
  • k8blujay2
    k8blujay2 Posts: 4,941 Member
    Pride goeth before the fall.... Keep hyping yourselves up there... it won't last long.
  • oregonzoo
    oregonzoo Posts: 4,251 Member
    [/quote]

    I agree with you totally BUT with the way the top 2 or 3 teams in the SEC dominating the way they do it gives the impression that they are dominant and it is hard to disagree that the top 2 maybe 3 teams are heads and shoulders above most teams.

    Also, think about this, had Buckeyes been eligible who woud they have played? the assumption would be Notre Dame which means the SEC would not have even been represented and after seeing the game would have been a travesty!

    NOTE: I am not a fan of the SEC
    [/quote]
    Which is why I'm excited for a play off. I would have LOVED to have seen who would have been matched up with Bama, and how much better of a game it would have been.
    And as far as the travesty that would have occured if tOSU was eligible..

    The simple resolution to that would have been Bama not losing during the season. :)
  • wadedawg
    wadedawg Posts: 315
    The SEC is without a doubt the best conference in college football. It hasn't always been. It won't always be. But it is right now, and has been for the past several seasons. Fans of other teams should focus more on why their conferences aren't as good. Simple petty jealousy, and attempting to dispute that which is factually indisputable isn't serving their cause very well.
  • kuntry_navy
    kuntry_navy Posts: 677 Member
    SEC as a whole, yes. Top schools in SEC, no. Georgia beat my Cornhuskers, even though we ran on em like they were a Sun Belt team.
  • wolverine66
    wolverine66 Posts: 3,779 Member

    I agree with you totally BUT with the way the top 2 or 3 teams in the SEC dominating the way they do it gives the impression that they are dominant and it is hard to disagree that the top 2 maybe 3 teams are heads and shoulders above most teams.

    Well, this seems like an appropriate time to indicate that the number 3 team in the nation, Florida, lost to Louisville. So, given that, I would disagree that the top 2 or three teams are "head and shoulders" above most teams.
  • laserturkey
    laserturkey Posts: 1,680 Member
    I was like, "WTF? The Securities Exchange Commission has seasons?" :-D
  • wadedawg
    wadedawg Posts: 315
    SEC as a whole, yes. Top schools in SEC, no. Georgia beat my Cornhuskers, even though we ran on em like they were a Sun Belt team.

    Georgia beat you by 14, and should have by all rights beaten you by 21. Your last 2 games you gave up 115 points lol. You ran around some, and still got waxed. I don't understand the crap talking Nebraska fans and players have engaged in following getting pounded, but that's up to y'all. Nebraska would have in all likelihood been a 3 or 4 loss team in SEC play.
  • oregonzoo
    oregonzoo Posts: 4,251 Member
    SEC as a whole, yes. Top schools in SEC, no. Georgia beat my Cornhuskers, even though we ran on em like they were a Sun Belt team.

    Georgia beat you by 14, and should have by all rights beaten you by 21. Your last 2 games you gave up 115 points lol. You ran around some, and still got waxed. I don't understand the crap talking Nebraska fans and players have engaged in following getting pounded, but that's up to y'all. Nebraska would have in all likelihood been a 3 or 4 loss team in SEC play.
    maybe they would have. But even the 3,4,5,6 loss SEC teams seem to ride the coats and claim dominance. So would it really have been that bad? :P
  • wadedawg
    wadedawg Posts: 315
    maybe they would have. But even the 3,4,5,6 loss SEC teams seem to ride the coats and claim dominance. So would it really have been that bad? :P

    There isn't a 3 or 4 loss SEC team that I have heard claiming any kind of dominance. They claim to play in the toughest conference, and occasionally claim they would have fewer losses in other conferences. My claim about Nebraska is a perfect example of that argument in fact.
  • harvo
    harvo Posts: 4,676 Member

    I agree with you totally BUT with the way the top 2 or 3 teams in the SEC dominating the way they do it gives the impression that they are dominant and it is hard to disagree that the top 2 maybe 3 teams are heads and shoulders above most teams.

    Well, this seems like an appropriate time to indicate that the number 3 team in the nation, Florida, lost to Louisville. So, given that, I would disagree that the top 2 or three teams are "head and shoulders" above most teams.

    That #3 team was HIGHLY overranked given the fact that they were #114, I believe, in total offense for the season. Reason they get that rank, because they travel well and sell tickets and that is what the NCAA wants/needs. How can that team be ranked in front of a team that actually went into Alabama and totally controlled them....$$$$$$$$
  • kuntry_navy
    kuntry_navy Posts: 677 Member
    maybe they would have. But even the 3,4,5,6 loss SEC teams seem to ride the coats and claim dominance. So would it really have been that bad? :P

    There isn't a 3 or 4 loss SEC team that I have heard claiming any kind of dominance. They claim to play in the toughest conference, and occasionally claim they would have fewer losses in other conferences. My claim about Nebraska is a perfect example of that argument in fact.

    I only talk crap because a 5-loss Wisconsin beat us by 40, and you guys, who should have been playing for the title(after how you played against 'bama) needed the usual choke artist Taylor Martinez to give you guys the game in the 4th quarter. I wouldn't have been suprised if you would have won by 21. But the fact that you only played as well for 3 quarters against us as a 3,4,5 loss Big Ten team, leaves the door wide open.
  • wadedawg
    wadedawg Posts: 315
    maybe they would have. But even the 3,4,5,6 loss SEC teams seem to ride the coats and claim dominance. So would it really have been that bad? :P

    There isn't a 3 or 4 loss SEC team that I have heard claiming any kind of dominance. They claim to play in the toughest conference, and occasionally claim they would have fewer losses in other conferences. My claim about Nebraska is a perfect example of that argument in fact.

    I only talk crap because a 5-loss Wisconsin beat us by 40, and you guys, who should have been playing for the title(after how you played against 'bama) needed the usual choke artist Taylor Martinez to give you guys the game in the 4th quarter. I wouldn't have been suprised if you would have won by 21. But the fact that you only played as well for 3 quarters against us as a 3,4,5 loss Big Ten team, leaves the door wide open.
    So because your team played like crap you talk crap. I get it...

    Nebraska laid a turd and got beat by 40. We played like crap and beat you by 14. See the difference?
  • wolverine66
    wolverine66 Posts: 3,779 Member

    I agree with you totally BUT with the way the top 2 or 3 teams in the SEC dominating the way they do it gives the impression that they are dominant and it is hard to disagree that the top 2 maybe 3 teams are heads and shoulders above most teams.

    Well, this seems like an appropriate time to indicate that the number 3 team in the nation, Florida, lost to Louisville. So, given that, I would disagree that the top 2 or three teams are "head and shoulders" above most teams.

    That #3 team was HIGHLY overranked given the fact that they were #114, I believe, in total offense for the season. Reason they get that rank, because they travel well and sell tickets and that is what the NCAA wants/needs. How can that team be ranked in front of a team that actually went into Alabama and totally controlled them....$$$$$$$$

    that's exactly what i'm saying. the number 2 team in the SEC (according to polls, i agree that Georgia should have been in that spot) is overrated and not head and shoulders above most teams.
  • tri10806
    tri10806 Posts: 192 Member
    In the last 20 years an SEC team has won the national championship 11 times. Alabama has 4, Florida 3, and LSU 2. The rest of the conference really hasn't won anything and just rides the big boys' jock. It cracks me up to see Georgia, USCe, Arkansas, Kentucky, and Ole Miss fans chanting SEC-SEC-SEC!

    UGA vs. Florida (Florida is 18-5 since 1990)
    UGA vs. Alabama (Bama 5-3 in last 8 meetings and 37-25-4 all-time)
    UGA vs. LSU (LSU is 4-3 in last 7 meetings and 16-12-1 all-time)

    USCe vs. Florida (USCe has only won 3 times since 1964. UF is 24-6-3 all-time)
    USCe vs. Alabama (Bama 11-4 all-time)
    USCe vs. LSU (LSU 17-2-1 all-time. USCe won in 1994 and 1930)

    Ark vs Florida (Florida is 8-1 all time. 8-0 since Arkansas has been in SEC)
    Ark vs Alabama (Bama is 15-8 all-time)
    Ark vs LSU (LSU is 36-20-2 all-time)

    Miss vs Alabama (Record: 9-49-2)
    Miss vs Auburn (Record: 10-27)
    Miss vs LSU (Record: 39-58-4)

    Tenn vs Florida (Record: 19-23-0)
    Tenn vs Alabama (Record: 38-50-7)
    Tenn vs LSU (Record: 20-9-3 although LSU has won 6 of last 8 since 2000)

    Kentucky vs Florida (Record: 17-46-0)
    Kentucky vs Alabama (Record: 2-35-1)
    Kentucky vs LSU (Record: 16-39-1)

    ESPN, CBS, and the BCS will do everything in their power to help maintain the "mystique" of the conference because they have the largest (and most loyal) fan bases in the country. That translates into $$$ for them and really nothing else.

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