Father brings his daughter into the men's locker room
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Gimme a break. If a parent needs to bring their kids into a locker room- why do you even care? Get a clue.0
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I didn't say anything about sexualizing children. My point was that I don't think parents should assume their 4 year old kids can handle seeing naked adults by putting them in that situation. That's all...I'm still wondering why that's such a controversial opinion...
Kids will take their cues from the adults around them.
If you are sincerely relaxed about a situation, they will follow your lead. Parents shouldn't assume their 4 year old kids CAN'T handle seeing naked people. 4 year olds are often naked a lot around people who are clothed anyway so why shouldn't they be able to handle it when it is the other way around.
Being prudish about something we all are under our clothes is just silly.0 -
My dad used to take me into the men's locker room at the YMCA when I took swimming lessons. The story goes that I noticed a man with a long ponytail (it was the '70s) and said loudly "Daddy!! I never saw a girl with a penis before!!!"
At the Fitness Center where I work, children under 5 must be with their parent in the adult locker room, children over 5 must go to the children's locker rooms. Except for children with special needs.
I don't understand the problem really. Is it better to leave a little girl alone in the women's locker room and expect her to manage on her own and to trust that nobody shady is in there with her while she's uncared for? She's four. She can not go into a public locker room alone. She is much much safer being with her father where he can keep her safe and keep her with him.
^This. People in other cultures walk around completely (or sometimes almost completely) naked and no one has any problem with it.0 -
Didn't read all of the replies. But that is child abuse. Think about it. If a man exposed himself to a four year old we would have him thrown in jail.
QFT
Child abuse? Really? There are many cultures in which being naked is acceptable.
As for the scenerio of someone exposing them self to a child, that is completely different context. The motivation behind that is sexual and is often a precursor to other behaviour.0 -
^This.Didn't read all of the replies. But that is child abuse. Think about it. If a man exposed himself to a four year old we would have him thrown in jail.
QFT
Child abuse? Really? There are many cultures in which being naked is acceptable.
As for the scenerio of someone exposing them self to a child, that is completely different context. The motivation behind that is sexual and is often a precursor to other behaviour.
I don't know how a lot of you would have functioned in bilbical times.0 -
Three words:family locker room. It's no brainer for most of us, and it makes the people without kids more comfortable.0
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I didn't say anything about sexualizing children. My point was that I don't think parents should assume their 4 year old kids can handle seeing naked adults by putting them in that situation. That's all...I'm still wondering why that's such a controversial opinion...
Frankly, I'm wondering why you find my position so controversial that you thought it necessary to warn people like me. You quoted a statement above about kids developing a sexual identity. That creeped me out if you are in fact relating that to a 4 year old.
Ok, I'm done. Your accusations aren't making any sense & now you're arguing about a post that's not mine (I just quoted it to show that I agree with the part about making assumptions). I guess people can't voice (er, type) their opinions around here!
You can voice your opinion, just don't get upset when someone disagrees with it or "singles you out".
I really don't mind when people disagree with me...normally I enjoy this type of discussion, but your post about staying away from your kids was insulting and unwarranted.
You presuming to tell me and others that we should be worried about the way we raise our kids wasn't a problem though? I thought you were done with this thread? Back to get in one more?0 -
^This.Didn't read all of the replies. But that is child abuse. Think about it. If a man exposed himself to a four year old we would have him thrown in jail.
QFT
Child abuse? Really? There are many cultures in which being naked is acceptable.
As for the scenerio of someone exposing them self to a child, that is completely different context. The motivation behind that is sexual and is often a precursor to other behaviour.
I don't know how a lot of you would have functioned in bilbical times.
I don't think there were locker rooms in biblical times, but it would be wrong for a caveman to take his daughter by the men's tree area.0 -
Didn't read all of the replies. But that is child abuse. Think about it. If a man exposed himself to a four year old we would have him thrown in jail.
Way to over-react. A little girl going into a men's locker room with her father is in NO WAY equal to some man walking up to a child and whipping out his genitals.......0 -
The original post has nothing in there about a family locker room, and if there is no family locker room, he has no other option. Why do men have to parade around naked in the locker room? Be discreet with your junk. Some gay guy might be checking you out if you aren't. I am sick of health clubs throwing roadblocks in parent's way. As a parent of young child, it is hard enough to get motivated to go exercise, and then when you get to the club with your kid they make sure to treat you like a second rate member.
you just had to bring up gay guys in this forum :frown:0 -
Didn't read all of the replies. But that is child abuse. Think about it. If a man exposed himself to a four year old we would have him thrown in jail.
QFT
Child abuse? Really? There are many cultures in which being naked is acceptable.
As for the scenerio of someone exposing them self to a child, that is completely different context. The motivation behind that is sexual and is often a precursor to other behaviour.
Also - people also get arrested for exposing themselves to adults as well. We don't arrest those walking naked in a locker room when only adults are present.0 -
Didn't read all of the replies. But that is child abuse. Think about it. If a man exposed himself to a four year old we would have him thrown in jail.
Do you have any idea how far-reaching you are with this?? What part of your ignorant mind went from "Men's bodies, changing in a locker room" to "Male predators exposing themselves in a threatening way"
This is what's wrong with America, y'all - everyone thinks mens' bodies are automatically disgusting things that want to rape everything in sight.0 -
The original post has nothing in there about a family locker room, and if there is no family locker room, he has no other option. Why do men have to parade around naked in the locker room? Be discreet with your junk. Some gay guy might be checking you out if you aren't. I am sick of health clubs throwing roadblocks in parent's way. As a parent of young child, it is hard enough to get motivated to go exercise, and then when you get to the club with your kid they make sure to treat you like a second rate member.
If a lesbian were checking me out in the locker room, I'd be flattered.0 -
He might be a single dad, that doesn't know where the family locker rooms are. Maybe the next time you see him you could show him where they are.0
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really inaproptiate. report him to the gym, they should address it. Leagally, the men in the locker room could be charged with indency with a child. most gyms offer child care, if yours doesen't he needs to fina another place to work out.0
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I had pizza for dinner tonight. I haven't been doing too well for the last couple of weeks, I hope I can get back on track soon.0
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Didn't read all of the replies. But that is child abuse. Think about it. If a man exposed himself to a four year old we would have him thrown in jail.
Do you have any idea how far-reaching you are with this?? What part of your ignorant mind went from "Men's bodies, changing in a locker room" to "Male predators exposing themselves in a threatening way"
This is what's wrong with America, y'all - everyone thinks mens' bodies are automatically disgusting things that want to rape everything in sight.
^^ This is exactly why these comments and the people posting them are creeping me out.0 -
I take my kids, age 5&6, into the Womens locker room with me when I go top the gym. Its much better than leaving them alone while I go in. I have a boy and a girl. Also, my kids see both of their parents naked regularly. Not in a sexual way but in a "we don't hide the human body" sort of way. They know we have different parts, use the correct names for them, know when it is appropriate to be naked and when it is not. They have no problem with any of it. It is grown adults like you who are behaving ridiculously by making others uncomfortable. Would I love it if my husband took my 6 year old daughter into a mends locker room, probably not. But only because I know there are people like you who would make a big deal about it. She is perfectly capable of sitting and talking with daddy until its time to go, she likely wouldn't notice you or what parts you have where. Same as my son in the Womens locker room.0
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I had pizza for dinner tonight. I haven't been doing too well for the last couple of weeks, I hope I can get back on track soon.
Perfect timing! :laugh:0 -
After about age 3, children do maintain memories into adulthood. I agree that this is totally inappropriate and if it does continue, I would address it with the gym staff.0
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I didn't say anything about sexualizing children. My point was that I don't think parents should assume their 4 year old kids can handle seeing naked adults by putting them in that situation. That's all...I'm still wondering why that's such a controversial opinion...
Frankly, I'm wondering why you find my position so controversial that you thought it necessary to warn people like me. You quoted a statement above about kids developing a sexual identity. That creeped me out if you are in fact relating that to a 4 year old.
Ok, I'm done. Your accusations aren't making any sense & now you're arguing about a post that's not mine (I just quoted it to show that I agree with the part about making assumptions). I guess people can't voice (er, type) their opinions around here!
You can voice your opinion, just don't get upset when someone disagrees with it or "singles you out".
I really don't mind when people disagree with me...normally I enjoy this type of discussion, but your post about staying away from your kids was insulting and unwarranted.
You presuming to tell me and others that we should be worried about the way we raise our kids wasn't a problem though? I thought you were done with this thread? Back to get in one more?
Yep, just like you said you were!! I'll give you the last word--you earned it!
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Sorry, why is this inappropriate (other than the family room thing)? What the hell happens in the locker rooms? I assume people are mostly civilized.0
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Sorry, why is this inappropriate (other than the family room thing)? What the hell happens in the locker rooms? I assume people are mostly civilized.
These people must think that the men's locker room is one big orgy......or that the men in there "sword fight" or something......I've never been in one myself, but I assume that it's just men either getting dressed, undressed, drying off or getting into the shower.0 -
Its not like the men in the locker room are doing inappropriate things. They are changing/showering. Im sure that little girl has seen her dad naked.?.so why would she even think different of another man. Its the human body. At my gym a parent brings a 4 year old boy in... i think nothing of it. Shoot any parent/nanny knows u cant pee without a little one busting in asking for a snack or telling a story. It doesnt have to be made into a big deal. Once it has been made into a big deal, kids respond as a big deal.0
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I didn't say anything about sexualizing children. My point was that I don't think parents should assume their 4 year old kids can handle seeing naked adults by putting them in that situation. That's all...I'm still wondering why that's such a controversial opinion...
Frankly, I'm wondering why you find my position so controversial that you thought it necessary to warn people like me. You quoted a statement above about kids developing a sexual identity. That creeped me out if you are in fact relating that to a 4 year old.
Ok, I'm done. Your accusations aren't making any sense & now you're arguing about a post that's not mine (I just quoted it to show that I agree with the part about making assumptions). I guess people can't voice (er, type) their opinions around here!
You can voice your opinion, just don't get upset when someone disagrees with it or "singles you out".
I really don't mind when people disagree with me...normally I enjoy this type of discussion, but your post about staying away from your kids was insulting and unwarranted.
You presuming to tell me and others that we should be worried about the way we raise our kids wasn't a problem though? I thought you were done with this thread? Back to get in one more?
Yep, just like you said you were!! I'll give you the last word--you earned it!
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I take my kids, age 5&6, into the Womens locker room with me when I go top the gym. Its much better than leaving them alone while I go in. I have a boy and a girl. Also, my kids see both of their parents naked regularly. Not in a sexual way but in a "we don't hide the human body" sort of way. They know we have different parts, use the correct names for them, know when it is appropriate to be naked and when it is not. They have no problem with any of it. It is grown adults like you who are behaving ridiculously by making others uncomfortable. Would I love it if my husband took my 6 year old daughter into a mends locker room, probably not. But only because I know there are people like you who would make a big deal about it. She is perfectly capable of sitting and talking with daddy until its time to go, she likely wouldn't notice you or what parts you have where. Same as my son in the Womens locker room.
Off topic (but is that really bad at this point?), my son walking into the bathroom while I was taking a bath, he's three, pointed and said, "Mommy's vagina". He then ran off to find Dad and I heard him say in the next room, "Daddy's penis." I laughed.0 -
I am born and raised hippie child. I grew up at the Oregon Country Fair. Naked people all over the place. Naked sauna, showers without curtains, people playing guitar naked, riding bicycles naked.
TITS! *kitten*! PENIS! B00BS! OMG
I am a relatively well-adjusted person who can use proper grammar and spelling. I am not a killer, sex fiend etc.
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS.
NOT A CHILD ABUSE ISSUE.
If you're a grown *kitten* man and can't handle a little person in the room when you are naked/they are naked YOU have the problem.0 -
Sorry, why is this inappropriate (other than the family room thing)? What the hell happens in the locker rooms? I assume people are mostly civilized.
These people must think that the men's locker room is one big orgy......or that the men in there "sword fight" or something......I've never been in one myself, but I assume that it's just men either getting dressed, undressed, drying off or getting into the shower.
I've always assumed they do "sword fight". Thanks for ruining it for me.0 -
I had pizza for dinner tonight. I haven't been doing too well for the last couple of weeks, I hope I can get back on track soon.
Perfect timing! :laugh:
Okay, best post in this thread. :drinker:0 -
"Daddy!! I never saw a girl with a penis before!!!" FUNNY!0
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