Doritos are not meth.
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Wow. A lot of entitled people in here who seem to not realize there are actually people out there with (gasp) eating disorders. Some people literally can NOT keep Doritos/etc in their house.. I personally can't keep junk food in my house, I will binge on it. If you don't know what that's like, then don't speak for and judge people who legitimately have problems with trigger foods and cannot control themselves of their own volition. Eating disorders aren't a scapegoat for lack of willpower/gluttony/whatever.. we don't enjoy having these problems..
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There’s no shifty dudes hanging out in the alley trying to sell you Cheetos. Doritos are not meth.
Unfortunately this is true. The Cheetos are right there in the store where I shop. I'd prefer they were in the alley with a shifty dude. I'm afraid of alleys with shifty dudes in them.
Doritos shmoritos. Bring all you want to my house. But leave the Cheetos in the alley.0 -
What I think is funny is that some people on these threads taking nothing seriously and some people take everything seriously. And the two shall never mix.
OP, I think your post was funny and right on target. I'm sending you a friend request.
No some of us expressed what is real in our lives. Then got shamed for it!! Nothing was against the OP on my post. just sayin0 -
Addicts cannot have their addiction in moderation, plain and simple.
So I guess food addicts should be simply provided ......what? Pills or IV tubes? Should they get their dietary needs by prescription? I'm sure you don't think they just starve to death?
With food addicts, it is not about eating itself, it is more about what we eat. I can eat my grilled or baked meat, steamed veggies, and fruits like a normal person. It is when I eat cookies, cake, chips, chocolate, fried chicken, those pleasure foods are what gets me. I can eat, eat, eat, until I feel like my stomach is going to explode. I know all the time I don't want to be doing this, I don't need to be doing this, I workout hard and work hard to lose weight, but yet I can't control myself. I have tried, but eat, eat more, eat more. Unless you have this problem you will not understand, but don't taunt or make as if it isn't real.
I agree with this. I thought the OP came off as a little dismissive. I've had addictions, not to food, but I can understand how someone can make self destructive decisions with food. And I'd never tell them to just get over it, learn from your mistakes and move on. If it were that easy this site wouldn't exist.0 -
I am starting my bachelor of Social Work in the fall and this thread seriously just makes me want to smack people.0
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OP, I just want to say thank you for posting this. I guess I'm one of those weird people with "willpower" and self control though. It's a shame that a post focusing on hard work and self control resulted in a thread full of excuses and whining. But this is MFP. My hat is off to you.
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I'm popping in to just say....everyone is missing the point, but I knew they would.
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No, I am tired of people thinking they are a bad person for eating 1440 calories instead of 1400.
If the point you were trying to make was that going over your calories by 40 doesn't make you a bad person, and you shouldn't beat yourself up for that, I'm afraid you failed miserably.
I can make that point:
Calorie estimates are really only approximate.You are going to be 5-10% every day because even when things are marked with a specific number of calories, you can't rely on those being exact numbers. If your goal is to lose a pound a week, being 40 over on any given day won't make any difference to your overall progress--you will still slowly and steadily lose weight.
If the point you were trying to make was that eating a snack occasionally doesn't ruin everything and you shouldn't beat yourself up over it, you didn't make that point either. Those may have been the points you were *trying* to make--but they weren't what you wrote.0 -
Addicts cannot have their addiction in moderation, plain and simple.
So I guess food addicts should be simply provided ......what? Pills or IV tubes? Should they get their dietary needs by prescription? I'm sure you don't think they just starve to death?
So, I guess you didn't read the link or beyond that one sentence, eh?
Let me reiterate:
"Just as alcohol is the substance that triggers the alcoholic's disease, there are substances that trigger a food addict's out-of-control eating.These substances are typically refined carbohydrates, sweeteners, fats and processed foods. These foods seem to affect the same addictive brain pathways that are influenced by alcohol and drugs."
There are plenty of healthy, unprocessed whole foods that people who are addicted to food can eat that don't trigger addictive behavior. Rarely do you hear people bemoaning the fact that eating one baby carrot leads to the consumption of an entire package. The problem is generally processed junk food--the ingredients in those foods act upon their brain receptors in the same manner in which alcohol acts on the brain receptors of an alcoholic.
Hope that takes care of your concerns that all food addicts are doomed to a life of IV fluids and vitamin pills.0 -
Doritos may not be meth, but I like to sprinkle a little coke and sniff it off of them for nacho cheese cocaine. Really great.0
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Food is fuel for a healthy body, but everything needs to be in moderation. I eat whatever I please, but when my body has had enough food, I stop (usually
). It is very frustrating to read all these posts where people have given themselves a teency weency bit of calories to work with, and then flip out when they "waste" some of their precious calories on something they craved or to celebrate a special occasion. I've had to delete those who obsess over things like this, and tend to stay away from those type of posts in forums. I am looking for supportive people, and trying to be supportive. I can't help somebody who doesn't want to help themselves and who wants to make every molehill into a mountain. 0 -
From your general lack of knowledge by dismissing eating clean as "whatever that means" shows you just want to be skinny and not healthy. Look at your labels some time, see what you are putting in your body. I mean great, you think calories in and calories out is the only goal. The best you will ever be is somewhat thinner without getting more serious about nutrition. Go over your limit whatever but including junk in your diet is just that, junk. It isn't food, it is a food like product that does nothing for you.0
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Willpower is a stupid diet industry buzzword, points off for that.
Willpower is about so much more than simply your diet. It's what gets you out of bed on days you feel too groggy. It's what gets you to pay your bills. It's what keeps you from choking a co-worker or in-law that is royally pissing you off. Willpower is another word for self-control.
It's also what keeps you from buying the Doritos at the grocery store. :-)0 -
I like this a lot.
People like that are annoying...
"OMG CUPCAKES AT WORK!! PEOPLE EATING CUPCAKES ARE HIDEOUS FAT SLOBS! But hey! I'm not having a cupcake, therefore I'm...SUPERIOR!
It's like, eye roll.0 -
From your general lack of knowledge by dismissing eating clean as "whatever that means" shows you just want to be skinny and not healthy. Look at your labels some time, see what you are putting in your body. I mean great, you think calories in and calories out is the only goal. The best you will ever be is somewhat thinner without getting more serious about nutrition. Go over your limit whatever but including junk in your diet is just that, junk. It isn't food, it is a food like product that does nothing for you.
What is eating clean then?0 -
to the OP very well said...applause applause!!!! 0
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Bold BBQ Doritos, I can polish off a bag of those in a few minutes, then another bag, and another...you sure there is no crack in them? :P0
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I love everything about this post. It made me laugh out loud...and is SO very true. Yesterday I wanted fried fish so I stopped at Long John Silvers and got some. After I logged those 1000 calories I regretted it, and probably won't do it again. But, in the end, I learned more from giving in...and it was tasty, tasty food.
Thank you for posting this...bravo!!0 -
This post is wonderful!! YOU are wonderful!!0
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Lets be fwends!!0
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Willpower is a stupid diet industry buzzword, points off for that.
Willpower is about so much more than simply your diet. It's what gets you out of bed on days you feel too groggy. It's what gets you to pay your bills. It's what keeps you from choking a co-worker or in-law that is royally pissing you off. Willpower is another word for self-control.
It's also what keeps you from buying the Doritos at the grocery store. :-)
I would agree totally with this---I know that there are certain foods that I don't even go near in the grocery store--just like a recovering alcoholic knows that it is a bad idea to go into a bar. I know that the first bite of food that I grew up addicted to, doughnuts, cake, pie, cookies, white bread (but any kind of wheat bread is a problem), would be likely to set off a binge. So I just don't take the first bite. I'm not bothered if others around me eat those things, but as for me, I WILL NOT. Moderation is a foreign word to an addict---if he/she was able to have moderation with substances of one sort or another, they wouldn't be an addict.0 -
Plain Doritos are the same as practically any other tortilla chip.
I think most folks are talking about the Nacho Cheese variety, which I haven't eaten in years due to its not being completely gluten free anyway. I stay away from flavored chips like that for other reasons, because I don't trust their flavorings (and its the flavorings that make them so addictive, the added sugar and fat no doubt). But I can freebase just about any kind of chip, even the healthy ones.
I am sympathetic to those who have no willpower over chips, but for me -- never eating straight out of the bag, making sure its all measured by food scale before popping into my mouth controls the overeating for me. It's now a habit and it keeps me from overeating them. It may or may not work for others, but it works for me so I shared my success with it.0 -
I am sure this has been said, but since I dont have time to read 15 pages of posts, this is what came to my mind. You are looking at people's post from your point of view. Grace says we give people the room and time to grow. And an understanding of addictions is necessary. Anything can control us. If you look into your own life you will see areas where you need change. Those areas and the situations that result cause you to say, "man why did I do that?" "I always do that" "I screwed up again." When you catch yourself and if your honest you will, you have to admit your being controlled by something other than will power. Relationships, food, exercise, drugs, alcohol, sex, or what have you. Each person's journey is different, thus individual. The best thing we can do for people is accept them for who they are and where they are in life. Your thoughts though well intentioned illistrate the ugly power of judgement. Judgement keeps people back. Grace allows growth and recognizes people learn things and change in their own time.
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So... I shouldn't have crushed those Doritos and snorted them? Hunh. I guess I did it wrong...
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I completely agree with your post! My problem isn't Doritos though. I absolutely love sweets. And it's funny that you mentioned how people say "I can't control myself around sweets," because I used to say that all the time. But it isn't true. I've lost weight in the past and had amazing self control (except with chocolate chip cookies, it is SO hard for me to eat only one or two.) But then around the holidays I completely lost control and ate a ton of stuff. Ultimately resulting in a 70 lb gain in the course of two years. So when I started to try to lose weight again, I told myself that the only way to do it was to swear those foods out of my life to avoid binge eating them. And then of course I gained even more weight. So now, my main goal is working on eating in moderation. I control food. Food does not control me.0
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Bold BBQ Doritos, I can polish off a bag of those in a few minutes, then another bag, and another...you sure there is no crack in them? :P
Actually, now that you ask, processed food (i.e. engineered food) is known to carry more than a few "addictive" elements. Why do you think they put sugar in just about all processed food? Our national waistline has expanded from the yearly150 pounds per capita of sugar that we eat (and a lot of it is "hidden" in processed food). In 1900, the average yearly per capita consumption of sugar was less than 5 pounds. What does that tell you about the addictive power of sugar? As for wheat, there is a substance called gliadin (not gluten) that has been shown in laboratory experiments to make rats eat and eat whatever food substance that contains it.0 -
lol this was to funny. Personally, I think every bag of chips should have 1 potato chip dipped in speed. This way for those of us who eat the entire bag at one time we will have an uncontrollable urge to run around for a day or so. My to do list would get so much shorter.0
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1. YES, there are real addiction issues that be associated with food, like eating disorders.
2. YES, "just have more willpower" is not ALWAYS the best answer.
3. YES, there are variables for each situation that "just say no", might not be enough
However:
1. The amount of melodrama around peoples reaction to food is absurd, and many times, overreactions.
2. Eventually, one MUST learn willpower to resist overeating if they are going to become fit and healthy, this is a part of all "recovery" processes.
3. You will always be around people with "bad" foods, they aren't illegal (yet) so people are going to eat them around you, offer them to you and yes, not consider your diet and flaunt them. Unless you are going to lock yourself in your house with vitamins and rice cakes, you will have to learn self control or moderation.
4. Many of these "overreactions" are PART of the person's issue with food, that most likely led to their ED or being overweight, so while it is true a simple "no" might not suffice, a simple "no" will eventually be a necessity.
5. Learning a healthy relationship with food is the most important thing anyone can do for themselves when it comes to weightloss and healthy living.
So, I agree with the OP when she expresses her frustrations with seeing the same "plea for help" over and over again.0 -
OP - Well said *applause*
Everyone has their food "kryptonite" It can been tough to overcome, but it CAN be overcome0
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